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Scott Creighton wrote:

> MS: Actually this material predated standard
> hieroglyphic fonts — but regardless, Creighton is mistaking
> Birch’s transcription of the inscriptions in the “Tomb of
> Trades” for a photorealistic record.
>
> SC: Once again, you completely fail to understand the point.
> Drawings of the Khufu cartouches with hatched discs from the
> Tomb of the Trades were first sent to Vyse by Perring on 2nd
> June. Vyse decides, on the 16th, he has to see them for
> himself. He sees them, marks the key difference in his journal
> i.e. the hatched disc and with this information he then updates
> the disc in the chamber and on Hill's facsimile. All just in
> time for the material to be sent to London days later.

Actually, no, Creighton, you are failing to understand the point. The material you’ve presented in support of this claim is transcription. Transcription is disambiguating: it entails judgements on what characters were intended. It’s not photorealistic. We don’t have Perring’s drawings and we don’t know that the circles in them were hatched. What we need here is a photographic record of the inscriptions themselves.

The rest is a fantasy written around the evidence.

M.


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