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Hi Audrey

Ancient central America and South had city's where previous peoples built
or themselves. ..Adopted an extant wonder
only to vanish in time..
Who they were...their connections to Gods...
The cosmos looms large......Giants and races of those who were a mix of
part man...part god
The possibility of trans pacific migration could explain how Shang period artistic
design...culture?....and other cross pacific influence manifests in cent AM
certainly pyramid designs nearly match
with stellar mapping a major focus for cultures

Robert Temples website points to stellar mapping shafts in pyramid base area
construction...with some sites not covered over in pyramid design
but left as stellar mapping platforms

An obsession with the stars is marked for these layouts....before they
become the antiquarian tomb theory

The Gods who came down to earth....and then the legacy stellar watch mandate

What if Dynastic Egypt is an adoption legacy of something many 1000's of years
removed
They study the stars....and try to make the ancient ways* work....
Come alive again.....yet how far do they succeed?

What if the dynastic ages were more ritual and faith.....than practical
application?

Names....spells...netherworld gates and doors.....symbols

Did even 1 single pharaoh ascend to another realm apart from natural death?

What if quantum doorway and power systems at that level.....was a reality from a long
past time whose people are gone
maybe some few teachers or god like persons lingered over mankinds ignorance?

Maybe our earth really got clobbered by catastrophe
even the gods walk away and leave us to struggle upward

my picture of Dynastic egypt is one of violence...raiding....slavery....war
Oligarchy....with King and crony priest cast all running a mental con over
a peoples.
Tribes become federations and then kingdoms...
Notice how quickly the USA has gone from something noble during WW 2
To a lying...media deception / fascist enterprise...bent on opportunism and
servitude

we have risen in technology....yet something of the severe fallen state of mans
being remains

did ancient egypt play at being super spiritual
when possibly....they could not ascend anyone
could not cross through a quantum door

maybe visitors crossed the threshold to their realm
Mankind in awe and wonder

A fixation with speaking names...having empowered names
speaking to the gods...commanding
like our voice recognition technology now

Yet did anything happen?.....was it more ritual and public show
pretend!

Khufu's family have these cool power named children/ family members
tapping into the god name
The pharaohs and kings claim to do alot....have great power over
yet it appears to be socio religious con
maybe it was from the get go.

The Mayans and Aztec societies had stellar mapping prowess....and human
sacrifice...large scale violence conflicts

The fall of mankind
our desire to be like the gods...
Our desire to cross the threshold of the stars

possibly the sky and star gazing were serious business
Velikovskys mankind in amnesia
doom from the heavens....sun ending ages....and few men lived

a world crawling back up from near oblivion and finding great wonders
with myth and faith....about how things moved and doors opened

by just a word.....long long ago


T Bird



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