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Audrey wrote:

> Point taken. But on the other hand, just because it was done in
> recent history doesn't mean it was done 4,000 yrs ago.
>
> I criticize egyptologists because..... every subject I've
> researched, Khufu, Sothis, Sphinx, I've run across these same
> feeble explanations for their conclusions. They change names,
> insert names where there are none (dream stela), translate
> words to suit their purpose (sothis). I've grown tired of
> their inaccuracies and their mental gymnastics in making the
> translations fit into the Manetho timeline. Not enough time
> between two kings for a newly discovered king? No problem, just
> rearrange names. They had a big problem with the 4th dynasty,
> co-regents/brothers/sons, just what was going on they couldn't
> figure it out. There wasn't time for another king after the G1
> builder (if I remember correctly) they eventually concluded
> that it wasn't a new name discovered, it was just another name
> for Khufu. I wish I could remember which newly discovered
> pharaoh was given a particular position in a dynasty simply
> because it was the only place where there was room for the
> length of his reign.
>
> When I read of cuneiform, there are sentences and whole
> documents that make sense. It's amazing that anyone was able
> to decipher that language. Cuneiform is an older language, yet
> the outcome is readable, coherent. But the hieroglyph
> translations are gibberish. It's nonsense and they know it,
> so it's explained away as religious beliefs in a fantastic
> parade of bizarre deities. Better to have a bizarre religion
> than to admit of gross mistranslations.
>
> The language was reverse engineered, so to speak, from Coptic
> and Greek. You present the final outcome, how it stands now,
> with the "fact" that a king had 5 names. It sounds perfectly
> believable when you state it as...... they had 5
> titles
....period. It is presumed to be fact for the simple
> reason that an egyptologist would not state it if it were not a
> fact. But you do not present what went on behind the scenes,
> what transpired to make that "fact" come about. We presume
> that the discovery of this fact was born of meticulous study,
> indisputable written records, etc., being double and triple
> checked by the savants of the time. We also presume that these
> savants were pure of motive.
>
> But is this the truth?
>
> Regarding Chemmis ; Cheops and Suphis are mentioned once in
> extant literature. There is no history or etymology to study.
> But there is history for Chemmis, so of course the name is more
> interesting. If Cheops and Suphis were legendary, as claimed, I
> would expect to find the names in other authors. Especially
> since the Greeks, Romans, Babylonians, left such a wealth of
> information.


Egyptology has done a very remarkable job almost across the board. They took a couple of bad turns and they are too quick to extrapolate data. It's vexing that they all use different words to name the same thing and then fail to leave a trail of bread crumbs so average folk can't follow them.

There is one thing they must address to get with the times. They must stop understanding the culture in terms of a book of incantation. It is affecting their understanding of what they know. The first step is to admit they don't have a clue what this book says and that no evidence exists that it is just like the book of the dead. If they did nothing but this it would reright their boat and put us back on a course that would lead to answers.

I fear Egyptology is going to become superfluous and irrelevant if they stick the present course. They will find a world according to superstitious tomb builders who never existed.



Man fears the pyramid, time fears man.

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Audrey - How to photoshop a cartouche a la Vyse 1042 Dr. Troglodyte 10-May-13 20:14
William Wilberforce, crook 485 Martin Stower 11-May-13 12:17
Re: William Wilberforce, crook 451 Nejc 11-May-13 16:15
Re: William Wilberforce, crook 448 Merrell 11-May-13 18:36
Re: William Wilberforce, crook 455 Scott Creighton 12-May-13 11:27
Re: William Wilberforce, crook 532 Merrell 12-May-13 22:37
Re: William Wilberforce, crook 487 Scott Creighton 13-May-13 11:03
Wilberforce, abolitionist; Vyse, excavator 403 Merrell 13-May-13 13:11
Re: Wilberforce, abolitionist; Vyse, 450 Scott Creighton 13-May-13 13:21
Re: Wilberforce, abolitionist; Vyse, 462 Martin Stower 13-May-13 16:14
Re: Wilberforce, abolitionist; Vyse, 362 Scott Creighton 14-May-13 09:16
Re: Wilberforce, abolitionist; Vyse, 426 Merrell 14-May-13 09:41
Re: Wilberforce, abolitionist; Vyse, 442 Scott Creighton 14-May-13 09:47
Re: Wilberforce, abolitionist; Vyse, 447 Martin Stower 15-May-13 11:18
Re: Wilberforce, abolitionist; Vyse, 536 Scott Creighton 15-May-13 12:02
Re: Wilberforce, abolitionist; Vyse, 457 Martin Stower 15-May-13 14:26
Re: Wilberforce, abolitionist; Vyse, 397 Scott Creighton 15-May-13 15:00
Re: Wilberforce, abolitionist; Vyse, 499 Martin Stower 16-May-13 09:55
Re: Wilberforce, abolitionist; Vyse, 436 Scott Creighton 16-May-13 10:04
Re: Wilberforce, abolitionist; Vyse, 427 Martin Stower 16-May-13 10:34
Re: Wilberforce, abolitionist; Vyse, 372 Scott Creighton 16-May-13 10:43
Re: Wilberforce, abolitionist; Vyse, 430 Martin Stower 16-May-13 11:00
Re: Wilberforce, abolitionist; Vyse, 508 Scott Creighton 16-May-13 11:09
Re: Wilberforce, abolitionist; Vyse, 447 Martin Stower 16-May-13 11:31
Re: Wilberforce, abolitionist; Vyse, 413 Scott Creighton 16-May-13 11:36
Re: Wilberforce, abolitionist; Vyse, 412 cladking 16-May-13 15:14
Re: What are they so afraid of? 493 Thunderbird 16-May-13 15:55
Re: What are they so afraid of? 443 cladking 16-May-13 21:40
Calling Dr. Schoch 505 Dr. Troglodyte 16-May-13 16:04
Re: Calling Dr. Schoch 517 Scott Creighton 16-May-13 16:26
Logbook doubts 427 Merrell 16-May-13 21:38
Re: Logbook doubts 488 Scott Creighton 16-May-13 22:46
Re: Logbook doubts 382 Merrell 16-May-13 23:25
Re: Logbook doubts 446 Scott Creighton 17-May-13 08:00
Re: Logbook doubts 441 Merrell 17-May-13 14:30
Re: Logbook doubts 428 Scott Creighton 17-May-13 14:56
Re: Logbook doubts 433 Martin Stower 17-May-13 16:11
Re: Logbook doubts 421 Scott Creighton 17-May-13 20:53
Re: Logbook doubts 384 MJT 17-May-13 22:31
Re: Logbook doubts 477 Merrell 18-May-13 11:23
Re: Logbook doubts 520 Scott Creighton 18-May-13 12:10
Re: Logbook doubts 547 Martin Stower 20-May-13 17:54
Re: Logbook doubts 364 Scott Creighton 21-May-13 00:20
Re: Logbook doubts 443 Morten 21-May-13 09:03
Re: Logbook doubts 486 Scott Creighton 21-May-13 10:22
Re: Logbook doubts 483 Merrell 21-May-13 10:26
Re: Logbook doubts 410 Scott Creighton 21-May-13 10:35
Re: Logbook doubts 453 Merrell 21-May-13 13:46
Re: Logbook doubts 373 Morten 21-May-13 10:40
Re: Logbook doubts 455 Scott Creighton 21-May-13 11:04
Re: Logbook doubts 463 Morten 21-May-13 11:29
Re: Logbook doubts 482 Scott Creighton 21-May-13 12:04
Re: Logbook doubts 445 Morten 21-May-13 13:19
Re: Logbook doubts 517 Scott Creighton 21-May-13 13:33
Re: Logbook doubts 443 Merrell 21-May-13 14:16
Re: Logbook doubts 445 Scott Creighton 21-May-13 14:27
Re: Logbook doubts 485 Merrell 21-May-13 23:48
Re: Logbook doubts 477 Morten 21-May-13 14:37
Re: Logbook doubts 442 Scott Creighton 21-May-13 14:54
Re: Logbook doubts 478 Morten 22-May-13 10:51
Re: Logbook doubts 504 Martin Stower 21-May-13 17:13
Re: Logbook doubts 378 Audrey 22-May-13 02:20
Re: Logbook doubts 447 Morten 22-May-13 08:18
Re: Logbook doubts 408 Martin Stower 22-May-13 15:02
Re: Logbook doubts 417 Audrey 24-May-13 01:32
Re: Logbook doubts 598 Martin Stower 24-May-13 13:43
Re: Logbook doubts 337 Audrey 24-May-13 01:10
Re: Logbook doubts 379 Scott Creighton 10-Jun-14 13:15
Re: Logbook doubts 473 eyeofhorus33 10-Jun-14 18:17
Re: Logbook doubts 472 Scott Creighton 10-Jun-14 22:01
Re: Logbook doubts 418 eyeofhorus33 10-Jun-14 22:15
Re:Khufu....Hyksos? 444 Thunderbird 11-Jun-14 01:36
Re: Logbook doubts 436 Audrey 11-Jun-14 20:47
Re: Logbook doubts 513 eyeofhorus33 11-Jun-14 22:18
Re: Logbook doubts 467 Audrey 12-Jun-14 21:22
Re: Logbook doubts 413 eyeofhorus33 12-Jun-14 22:20
Re: Logbook doubts 417 cladking 13-Jun-14 00:24
Re: Logbook doubts 402 eyeofhorus33 13-Jun-14 22:53
Re: Logbook doubts 400 cladking 13-Jun-14 23:23
Re: Logbook doubts 418 eyeofhorus33 13-Jun-14 23:48
Re: Logbook doubts 411 cladking 14-Jun-14 00:17
Re: Logbook doubts 438 Audrey 14-Jun-14 02:17
Re: Logbook doubts 462 eyeofhorus33 14-Jun-14 11:44
Re: Logbook doubts 431 cladking 14-Jun-14 15:25
context and customs 383 Audrey 14-Jun-14 19:25
Re: context and customs 367 cladking 14-Jun-14 21:23
Re: Logbook doubts 448 eyeofhorus33 14-Jun-14 21:29
Re: Logbook doubts 426 cladking 14-Jun-14 22:07
Re: Logbook doubts 418 eyeofhorus33 14-Jun-14 23:04
Re: Logbook doubts 442 cladking 15-Jun-14 00:29
Re: Logbook doubts 450 eyeofhorus33 15-Jun-14 18:35
Re: Logbook doubts 425 cladking 15-Jun-14 20:56
Re: Logbook doubts 429 eyeofhorus33 15-Jun-14 21:26
Language doubts 385 cladking 15-Jun-14 21:48
Re: Language doubts 394 eyeofhorus33 15-Jun-14 22:05
Re: Language doubts 412 cladking 15-Jun-14 22:51
Re: Language doubts 404 Audrey 16-Jun-14 04:17
Re: Language doubts 457 cladking 16-Jun-14 04:51
Re: Logbook doubts 326 cladking 12-Jun-14 22:57
Re:doubts 423 Thunderbird 11-Jun-14 23:36
Re:doubts 394 Audrey 12-Jun-14 19:54
Moderator Notice 382 Hoppy 22-May-13 01:32
Re: Logbook doubts 369 Audrey 22-May-13 02:52
Re: Logbook doubts 358 Martin Stower 18-May-13 13:37
Re: Logbook doubts 420 Scott Creighton 18-May-13 14:01
Re: Logbook doubts 398 Martin Stower 18-May-13 14:52
Re: Logbook doubts 400 Scott Creighton 18-May-13 17:16
Re: Logbook doubts 476 Martin Stower 20-May-13 16:57
Re: Logbook doubts 414 Scott Creighton 20-May-13 17:51
Re: Logbook doubts 388 Martin Stower 20-May-13 18:25
Re: Logbook doubts 265 Scott Creighton 20-May-13 18:49
Re: Logbook doubts 444 Martin Stower 21-May-13 15:42
Re: Logbook doubts 408 HungryHun 17-May-13 15:20
Re: Conspired.... 425 Thunderbird 17-May-13 15:47
Re: Conspired.... 414 HungryHun 17-May-13 16:04
Re: Conspired.... 388 Thunderbird 17-May-13 23:17
Re: Conspired....inspire d by money 419 Ratcho 03-Jun-13 05:57
Re: Logbook doubts 353 Martin Stower 17-May-13 16:23
Re: Logbook doubts 419 HungryHun 17-May-13 16:28
Re: Logbook doubts 414 Thunderbird 17-May-13 22:25
Would you buy a used cartouche from this man? 397 LonelyAngel 29-May-13 14:41
Re: Would you buy a used cartouche from this man? 363 Nejc 29-May-13 23:23
Re: Would you buy a used cartouche from this man? 387 Merrell 30-May-13 09:25
Re: Would you buy a used cartouche from this man? 436 Martin Stower 30-May-13 12:48
Re: Would you buy a used cartouche from this man? 425 WINDINWATERS 30-May-13 14:40
Re: Would you buy a used cartouche from this man? 322 Martin Stower 31-May-13 18:00
Re: Would you buy a used cartouche from this man? 381 WINDINWATERS 31-May-13 21:47
Re: Would you buy a used cartouche from this man? 368 LonelyAngel 30-May-13 17:43
Re: Would you buy a used cartouche from this man? 368 Martin Stower 31-May-13 18:24
Re: Would you buy a used cartouche from this man? 423 cladking 01-Jun-13 03:28
Re: Would you buy a used cartouche from this man? 417 Merrell 01-Jun-13 11:02
Re: Would you buy a used cartouche from this man? 346 LonelyAngel 03-Jun-13 20:59
Re: Would you buy a used cartouche from this man? 369 LonelyAngel 03-Jun-13 20:47
Re: Logbook doubts 575 Martin Stower 17-May-13 15:51
Re: Logbook doubts 411 Scott Creighton 17-May-13 20:27
Re: Logbook doubts 434 Nejc 17-May-13 22:28
Re: Logbook doubts 787 Martin Stower 18-May-13 14:43
Re: Logbook doubts 638 Scott Creighton 18-May-13 17:12
Re: Logbook doubts 478 Merrell 19-May-13 16:43
Re: Logbook doubts 420 Scott Creighton 20-May-13 09:38
Re: Logbook doubts 386 Merrell 20-May-13 13:29
Re: Logbook doubts 510 Scott Creighton 20-May-13 13:58
Re: Logbook doubts 381 Merrell 20-May-13 14:55
Re: Logbook doubts 414 Scott Creighton 20-May-13 18:46
Re: Logbook doubts 453 HungryHun 20-May-13 22:02
Re: Logbook doubts 413 Thanos5150 20-May-13 23:05
Re: Logbook doubts 431 sfbey 20-May-13 23:23
Re: Logbook doubts 423 Thanos5150 20-May-13 23:35
Re: Logbook doubts 418 sfbey 21-May-13 15:41
Moghrah 436 Merrell 21-May-13 18:09
Re: Logbook doubts 313 Scott Creighton 20-May-13 23:38
Re: Logbook doubts 339 Merrell 21-May-13 21:34
Re: Logbook doubts 344 Audrey 22-May-13 02:34
Re: Logbook doubts 391 Merrell 21-May-13 21:58
Re: Logbook doubts 411 Sirfiroth 22-May-13 10:42
Re: Logbook doubts 372 Merrell 22-May-13 11:43
Re: Logbook doubts 346 Sirfiroth 22-May-13 17:44
Re: Logbook doubts 294 Nejc 22-May-13 23:18
Re: Logbook doubts 290 cladking 23-May-13 00:51
Re: Logbook doubts 296 Merrell 23-May-13 08:41
Re: Logbook doubts 325 Martin Stower 20-May-13 19:19
Re: Logbook doubts 235 Scott Creighton 20-May-13 19:35
Re: Logbook doubts 367 Martin Stower 21-May-13 17:59
Moderator Warning 434 JonnyMcA 21-May-13 20:12
Moderator Warning 352 JonnyMcA 21-May-13 20:11
Re: exercise elementary caution about sources 325 Thunderbird 20-May-13 19:36
Re: Logbook doubts 360 Audrey 22-May-13 02:50
Re: Logbook doubts 311 Merrell 22-May-13 12:53
Re: Logbook doubts 284 Audrey 24-May-13 01:48
Moderator Caution 234 Hoppy 22-May-13 12:55
Re: Logbook doubts 201 Martin Stower 22-May-13 16:06
Re: Logbook doubts 194 Audrey 24-May-13 01:41
Re: Logbook doubts 204 Martin Stower 24-May-13 13:56
Re: Logbook doubts 180 Thunderbird 17-May-13 22:40
Re: Calling Dr. Schoch 264 Thanos5150 16-May-13 19:41
Re: Calling Dr. Schoch 232 Dr. Troglodyte 16-May-13 21:56
Re: Calling Dr. Schoch 219 Thanos5150 16-May-13 23:11
Re: Calling Dr. Schoch 202 Dr. Troglodyte 17-May-13 00:01
Re: Calling Dr. Schoch 241 Thanos5150 17-May-13 00:30
Re: Calling Dr. Schoch 207 cladking 16-May-13 21:50
Moderator Caution 260 Hoppy 15-May-13 14:09
Re: William Wilberforce, crook 176 Martin Stower 13-May-13 16:53
Re: William Wilberforce, crook 214 Scott Creighton 13-May-13 17:40
Re: William Wilberforce, crook 201 Martin Stower 13-May-13 18:32
Re: William Wilberforce, crook 140 Scott Creighton 13-May-13 19:23
Moderator Caution #2 133 Hoppy 15-May-13 14:18
Re: William Wilberforce, crook 163 Martin Stower 15-May-13 14:52
Re: Audrey - How to photoshop a cartouche a la Vyse 193 Nejc 11-May-13 13:47
Re: Audrey - How to photoshop a cartouche a la Vyse 187 JonnyMcA 11-May-13 18:41
Re: Audrey - How to photoshop a cartouche a la Vyse 193 Audrey 12-May-13 07:59
Re: Audrey - How to photoshop a cartouche a la Vyse 176 JonnyMcA 12-May-13 09:58
Re: Audrey - How to photoshop a cartouche a la Vyse 223 HungryHun 12-May-13 13:00
Re: Audrey - How to photoshop a cartouche a la Vyse 169 HungryHun 13-May-13 12:46
Re: Caviglia's complaint.... 181 Thunderbird 13-May-13 16:20
Re: Audrey - How to photoshop a cartouche a la Vyse 175 HungryHun 13-May-13 19:36
Re: Audrey - How to photoshop a cartouche a la Vyse 159 Martin Stower 15-May-13 15:04
Re: Audrey - How to photoshop a cartouche a la Vyse 168 HungryHun 16-May-13 10:03
Re: Audrey - How to photoshop a cartouche a la Vyse 169 Martin Stower 16-May-13 10:47
Re: Audrey - How to photoshop a cartouche a la Vyse 150 Merrell 16-May-13 16:33
Re: Audrey - How to photoshop a cartouche a la Vyse 175 Martin Stower 18-May-13 15:02
Re: If fake, then... what? 203 MJT 16-May-13 12:45
More Vyse wickedness 189 Martin Stower 18-May-13 15:14
Re: More Vyse wickedness 254 Scott Creighton 19-May-13 09:01
Re: More Vyse wickedness 258 Martin Stower 20-May-13 16:44
Re: More Vyse wickedness 276 Scott Creighton 20-May-13 17:56
Re: More Vyse wickedness 303 jamesglory 21-May-13 10:26
Re: More Vyse wickedness 290 Audrey 22-May-13 02:42
Moderator Caution 222 Hoppy 20-May-13 17:57
Re: Audrey - How to photoshop a cartouche a la Vyse 209 Audrey 14-Jun-14 21:11
Re: Audrey - How to photoshop a cartouche a la Vyse 176 cladking 14-Jun-14 21:49
Re: Audrey - How to photoshop a cartouche a la Vyse 189 Scott Creighton 15-Jun-14 00:13
Re: Audrey - How to photoshop a cartouche a la Vyse 207 eyeofhorus33 15-Jun-14 00:58
Re: Audrey - How to photoshop a cartouche a la Vyse 177 cladking 15-Jun-14 01:12
Re: Audrey - How to photoshop a cartouche a la Vyse 180 Sirfiroth 15-Jun-14 19:09
Re: Audrey - How to photoshop a cartouche a la Vyse 211 cladking 15-Jun-14 20:40
Re: Audrey - How to photoshop a cartouche a la Vyse 196 Audrey 16-Jun-14 03:32
Re: Audrey - How to photoshop a cartouche a la Vyse 281 eyeofhorus33 16-Jun-14 18:38
Re: Audrey - How to photoshop a cartouche a la Vyse 195 Audrey 23-Jun-14 03:15
Australian Funeral 229 molder 15-Jun-14 05:03
Re: Australian Funeral 341 Audrey 16-Jun-14 03:56
Re: Australian Funeral 170 molder 16-Jun-14 12:06
Re: Australian Funeral 182 cladking 16-Jun-14 16:50
Re: Australian Funeral 154 Audrey 23-Jun-14 01:58
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