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MA: Ah, just as I expected. We are on yet another of Scott´s "I can imagine it - so it must be true" journeys. He can not find the evidence (Google let him down?), so he dreams it up.

Why do you continue to call me CM?

SC: Already fixed.

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SC: What I imagine is irrelevant.

MA: My point exactly. Your "I can imagine it - so it must be true" is irrelevant. We agree at last.

SC: Er – no. You don’t get away that easily. You cannot just clip and post my statement out of context. What MATTERS is that we have a ‘testimony’ from Brewer/Allen that alleges fraud. THAT is what you should be concerned about. And that the imperative is to obtain the truth of the matter. Are you interested in obtaining the truth?

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SC: Now, I will make this easy for you. We can settle this discussion very easily.

MA: The discussion I engaged in is already settled. I asked you to provide an example of an inscription Vyse could have copied. You could not. What I got was an insight into your lively imagination - an imagination that we agree is irrelevant.

SC: Hilarious. You say that because those of us with an imagination can imagine the ways of perpetrating such a fraud that the likes of your good self, without an imagination, could not. To you perpetrating such a fraud was deemed “impossible”. The use of imagination from myself and others has shown that it wasn’t. But then you don’t want to use any imagination you might have because it might reveal to you possibilities you rather wouldn’t want to consider. In short – you are running scared of the truth and are merely here attempting to help shore up a thoroughly untenable position.

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SC: All you have to do is present a single piece of evidence that proves, beyond question, that these inscriptions are genuine.

MA:Why would you ask me that? I am open to consider the available evidence and draw my conclusion from that. Evidence, mind you, not what you are able to imagine.. Hence my question - did Vyse have access to an inscription he could copy.

SC: Asks the person who is happy to accept a stone box in the early giant pyramids is a sarcophagus when no remains of any king have ever been found. Do you imagine a dead king in those stone boxes? Do you imagine just when it suits you? Your argument is like saying a person found dead with a bullet in them wasn’t shot because no one has found the gun. The gun is the logical conclusion even in its absence. If fraud was committed as the Brewer/Allan ‘testimony’ implies then Tricky Dicky would have to have had found something to copy. That isn’t imagined – it is the logical conclusion.

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SC: Do that and I shall happily depart this discussion and you will never hear another peep from me on this matter again - do it not and you can be sure it will rumble on ad infinitum.

MA: No, please "peep" all you like. Watching you trying to counter Stower´s fact-based arguments with your "I can imagine it" is highly entertaining. Peep away.

SC: Stower – the guy who cannot answer three simple questions? Aye right!

SC



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Audrey - How to photoshop a cartouche a la Vyse 992 Dr. Troglodyte 10-May-13 20:14
William Wilberforce, crook 465 Martin Stower 11-May-13 12:17
Re: William Wilberforce, crook 434 Nejc 11-May-13 16:15
Re: William Wilberforce, crook 424 Merrell 11-May-13 18:36
Re: William Wilberforce, crook 430 Scott Creighton 12-May-13 11:27
Re: William Wilberforce, crook 487 Merrell 12-May-13 22:37
Re: William Wilberforce, crook 439 Scott Creighton 13-May-13 11:03
Wilberforce, abolitionist; Vyse, excavator 384 Merrell 13-May-13 13:11
Re: Wilberforce, abolitionist; Vyse, 425 Scott Creighton 13-May-13 13:21
Re: Wilberforce, abolitionist; Vyse, 442 Martin Stower 13-May-13 16:14
Re: Wilberforce, abolitionist; Vyse, 344 Scott Creighton 14-May-13 09:16
Re: Wilberforce, abolitionist; Vyse, 401 Merrell 14-May-13 09:41
Re: Wilberforce, abolitionist; Vyse, 419 Scott Creighton 14-May-13 09:47
Re: Wilberforce, abolitionist; Vyse, 428 Martin Stower 15-May-13 11:18
Re: Wilberforce, abolitionist; Vyse, 508 Scott Creighton 15-May-13 12:02
Re: Wilberforce, abolitionist; Vyse, 440 Martin Stower 15-May-13 14:26
Re: Wilberforce, abolitionist; Vyse, 378 Scott Creighton 15-May-13 15:00
Re: Wilberforce, abolitionist; Vyse, 463 Martin Stower 16-May-13 09:55
Re: Wilberforce, abolitionist; Vyse, 407 Scott Creighton 16-May-13 10:04
Re: Wilberforce, abolitionist; Vyse, 405 Martin Stower 16-May-13 10:34
Re: Wilberforce, abolitionist; Vyse, 353 Scott Creighton 16-May-13 10:43
Re: Wilberforce, abolitionist; Vyse, 400 Martin Stower 16-May-13 11:00
Re: Wilberforce, abolitionist; Vyse, 482 Scott Creighton 16-May-13 11:09
Re: Wilberforce, abolitionist; Vyse, 428 Martin Stower 16-May-13 11:31
Re: Wilberforce, abolitionist; Vyse, 396 Scott Creighton 16-May-13 11:36
Re: Wilberforce, abolitionist; Vyse, 394 cladking 16-May-13 15:14
Re: What are they so afraid of? 467 Thunderbird 16-May-13 15:55
Re: What are they so afraid of? 425 cladking 16-May-13 21:40
Calling Dr. Schoch 478 Dr. Troglodyte 16-May-13 16:04
Re: Calling Dr. Schoch 473 Scott Creighton 16-May-13 16:26
Logbook doubts 410 Merrell 16-May-13 21:38
Re: Logbook doubts 467 Scott Creighton 16-May-13 22:46
Re: Logbook doubts 362 Merrell 16-May-13 23:25
Re: Logbook doubts 424 Scott Creighton 17-May-13 08:00
Re: Logbook doubts 421 Merrell 17-May-13 14:30
Re: Logbook doubts 399 Scott Creighton 17-May-13 14:56
Re: Logbook doubts 415 Martin Stower 17-May-13 16:11
Re: Logbook doubts 404 Scott Creighton 17-May-13 20:53
Re: Logbook doubts 366 MJT 17-May-13 22:31
Re: Logbook doubts 445 Merrell 18-May-13 11:23
Re: Logbook doubts 495 Scott Creighton 18-May-13 12:10
Re: Logbook doubts 517 Martin Stower 20-May-13 17:54
Re: Logbook doubts 345 Scott Creighton 21-May-13 00:20
Re: Logbook doubts 426 Morten 21-May-13 09:03
Re: Logbook doubts 467 Scott Creighton 21-May-13 10:22
Re: Logbook doubts 446 Merrell 21-May-13 10:26
Re: Logbook doubts 391 Scott Creighton 21-May-13 10:35
Re: Logbook doubts 413 Merrell 21-May-13 13:46
Re: Logbook doubts 342 Morten 21-May-13 10:40
Re: Logbook doubts 438 Scott Creighton 21-May-13 11:04
Re: Logbook doubts 438 Morten 21-May-13 11:29
Re: Logbook doubts 456 Scott Creighton 21-May-13 12:04
Re: Logbook doubts 419 Morten 21-May-13 13:19
Re: Logbook doubts 480 Scott Creighton 21-May-13 13:33
Re: Logbook doubts 420 Merrell 21-May-13 14:16
Re: Logbook doubts 427 Scott Creighton 21-May-13 14:27
Re: Logbook doubts 461 Merrell 21-May-13 23:48
Re: Logbook doubts 444 Morten 21-May-13 14:37
Re: Logbook doubts 427 Scott Creighton 21-May-13 14:54
Re: Logbook doubts 462 Morten 22-May-13 10:51
Re: Logbook doubts 486 Martin Stower 21-May-13 17:13
Re: Logbook doubts 353 Audrey 22-May-13 02:20
Re: Logbook doubts 429 Morten 22-May-13 08:18
Re: Logbook doubts 390 Martin Stower 22-May-13 15:02
Re: Logbook doubts 399 Audrey 24-May-13 01:32
Re: Logbook doubts 556 Martin Stower 24-May-13 13:43
Re: Logbook doubts 315 Audrey 24-May-13 01:10
Re: Logbook doubts 361 Scott Creighton 10-Jun-14 13:15
Re: Logbook doubts 444 eyeofhorus33 10-Jun-14 18:17
Re: Logbook doubts 457 Scott Creighton 10-Jun-14 22:01
Re: Logbook doubts 399 eyeofhorus33 10-Jun-14 22:15
Re:Khufu....Hyksos? 416 Thunderbird 11-Jun-14 01:36
Re: Logbook doubts 416 Audrey 11-Jun-14 20:47
Re: Logbook doubts 490 eyeofhorus33 11-Jun-14 22:18
Re: Logbook doubts 450 Audrey 12-Jun-14 21:22
Re: Logbook doubts 380 eyeofhorus33 12-Jun-14 22:20
Re: Logbook doubts 383 cladking 13-Jun-14 00:24
Re: Logbook doubts 384 eyeofhorus33 13-Jun-14 22:53
Re: Logbook doubts 382 cladking 13-Jun-14 23:23
Re: Logbook doubts 402 eyeofhorus33 13-Jun-14 23:48
Re: Logbook doubts 392 cladking 14-Jun-14 00:17
Re: Logbook doubts 405 Audrey 14-Jun-14 02:17
Re: Logbook doubts 435 eyeofhorus33 14-Jun-14 11:44
Re: Logbook doubts 411 cladking 14-Jun-14 15:25
context and customs 367 Audrey 14-Jun-14 19:25
Re: context and customs 344 cladking 14-Jun-14 21:23
Re: Logbook doubts 431 eyeofhorus33 14-Jun-14 21:29
Re: Logbook doubts 408 cladking 14-Jun-14 22:07
Re: Logbook doubts 402 eyeofhorus33 14-Jun-14 23:04
Re: Logbook doubts 426 cladking 15-Jun-14 00:29
Re: Logbook doubts 428 eyeofhorus33 15-Jun-14 18:35
Re: Logbook doubts 407 cladking 15-Jun-14 20:56
Re: Logbook doubts 408 eyeofhorus33 15-Jun-14 21:26
Language doubts 357 cladking 15-Jun-14 21:48
Re: Language doubts 375 eyeofhorus33 15-Jun-14 22:05
Re: Language doubts 396 cladking 15-Jun-14 22:51
Re: Language doubts 385 Audrey 16-Jun-14 04:17
Re: Language doubts 437 cladking 16-Jun-14 04:51
Re: Logbook doubts 311 cladking 12-Jun-14 22:57
Re:doubts 399 Thunderbird 11-Jun-14 23:36
Re:doubts 377 Audrey 12-Jun-14 19:54
Moderator Notice 357 Hoppy 22-May-13 01:32
Re: Logbook doubts 344 Audrey 22-May-13 02:52
Re: Logbook doubts 340 Martin Stower 18-May-13 13:37
Re: Logbook doubts 398 Scott Creighton 18-May-13 14:01
Re: Logbook doubts 381 Martin Stower 18-May-13 14:52
Re: Logbook doubts 372 Scott Creighton 18-May-13 17:16
Re: Logbook doubts 453 Martin Stower 20-May-13 16:57
Re: Logbook doubts 396 Scott Creighton 20-May-13 17:51
Re: Logbook doubts 371 Martin Stower 20-May-13 18:25
Re: Logbook doubts 246 Scott Creighton 20-May-13 18:49
Re: Logbook doubts 415 Martin Stower 21-May-13 15:42
Re: Logbook doubts 391 HungryHun 17-May-13 15:20
Re: Conspired.... 407 Thunderbird 17-May-13 15:47
Re: Conspired.... 398 HungryHun 17-May-13 16:04
Re: Conspired.... 370 Thunderbird 17-May-13 23:17
Re: Conspired....inspire d by money 399 Ratcho 03-Jun-13 05:57
Re: Logbook doubts 329 Martin Stower 17-May-13 16:23
Re: Logbook doubts 402 HungryHun 17-May-13 16:28
Re: Logbook doubts 397 Thunderbird 17-May-13 22:25
Would you buy a used cartouche from this man? 373 LonelyAngel 29-May-13 14:41
Re: Would you buy a used cartouche from this man? 345 Nejc 29-May-13 23:23
Re: Would you buy a used cartouche from this man? 369 Merrell 30-May-13 09:25
Re: Would you buy a used cartouche from this man? 413 Martin Stower 30-May-13 12:48
Re: Would you buy a used cartouche from this man? 399 WINDINWATERS 30-May-13 14:40
Re: Would you buy a used cartouche from this man? 304 Martin Stower 31-May-13 18:00
Re: Would you buy a used cartouche from this man? 363 WINDINWATERS 31-May-13 21:47
Re: Would you buy a used cartouche from this man? 349 LonelyAngel 30-May-13 17:43
Re: Would you buy a used cartouche from this man? 344 Martin Stower 31-May-13 18:24
Re: Would you buy a used cartouche from this man? 399 cladking 01-Jun-13 03:28
Re: Would you buy a used cartouche from this man? 402 Merrell 01-Jun-13 11:02
Re: Would you buy a used cartouche from this man? 320 LonelyAngel 03-Jun-13 20:59
Re: Would you buy a used cartouche from this man? 351 LonelyAngel 03-Jun-13 20:47
Re: Logbook doubts 541 Martin Stower 17-May-13 15:51
Re: Logbook doubts 393 Scott Creighton 17-May-13 20:27
Re: Logbook doubts 407 Nejc 17-May-13 22:28
Re: Logbook doubts 728 Martin Stower 18-May-13 14:43
Re: Logbook doubts 584 Scott Creighton 18-May-13 17:12
Re: Logbook doubts 457 Merrell 19-May-13 16:43
Re: Logbook doubts 391 Scott Creighton 20-May-13 09:38
Re: Logbook doubts 369 Merrell 20-May-13 13:29
Re: Logbook doubts 466 Scott Creighton 20-May-13 13:58
Re: Logbook doubts 361 Merrell 20-May-13 14:55
Re: Logbook doubts 397 Scott Creighton 20-May-13 18:46
Re: Logbook doubts 436 HungryHun 20-May-13 22:02
Re: Logbook doubts 369 Thanos5150 20-May-13 23:05
Re: Logbook doubts 399 sfbey 20-May-13 23:23
Re: Logbook doubts 405 Thanos5150 20-May-13 23:35
Re: Logbook doubts 395 sfbey 21-May-13 15:41
Moghrah 416 Merrell 21-May-13 18:09
Re: Logbook doubts 281 Scott Creighton 20-May-13 23:38
Re: Logbook doubts 319 Merrell 21-May-13 21:34
Re: Logbook doubts 328 Audrey 22-May-13 02:34
Re: Logbook doubts 370 Merrell 21-May-13 21:58
Re: Logbook doubts 393 Sirfiroth 22-May-13 10:42
Re: Logbook doubts 356 Merrell 22-May-13 11:43
Re: Logbook doubts 330 Sirfiroth 22-May-13 17:44
Re: Logbook doubts 275 Nejc 22-May-13 23:18
Re: Logbook doubts 264 cladking 23-May-13 00:51
Re: Logbook doubts 268 Merrell 23-May-13 08:41
Re: Logbook doubts 306 Martin Stower 20-May-13 19:19
Re: Logbook doubts 198 Scott Creighton 20-May-13 19:35
Re: Logbook doubts 348 Martin Stower 21-May-13 17:59
Moderator Warning 394 JonnyMcA 21-May-13 20:12
Moderator Warning 315 JonnyMcA 21-May-13 20:11
Re: exercise elementary caution about sources 307 Thunderbird 20-May-13 19:36
Re: Logbook doubts 331 Audrey 22-May-13 02:50
Re: Logbook doubts 283 Merrell 22-May-13 12:53
Re: Logbook doubts 265 Audrey 24-May-13 01:48
Moderator Caution 215 Hoppy 22-May-13 12:55
Re: Logbook doubts 174 Martin Stower 22-May-13 16:06
Re: Logbook doubts 175 Audrey 24-May-13 01:41
Re: Logbook doubts 186 Martin Stower 24-May-13 13:56
Re: Logbook doubts 161 Thunderbird 17-May-13 22:40
Re: Calling Dr. Schoch 247 Thanos5150 16-May-13 19:41
Re: Calling Dr. Schoch 211 Dr. Troglodyte 16-May-13 21:56
Re: Calling Dr. Schoch 199 Thanos5150 16-May-13 23:11
Re: Calling Dr. Schoch 181 Dr. Troglodyte 17-May-13 00:01
Re: Calling Dr. Schoch 223 Thanos5150 17-May-13 00:30
Re: Calling Dr. Schoch 184 cladking 16-May-13 21:50
Moderator Caution 217 Hoppy 15-May-13 14:09
Re: William Wilberforce, crook 160 Martin Stower 13-May-13 16:53
Re: William Wilberforce, crook 186 Scott Creighton 13-May-13 17:40
Re: William Wilberforce, crook 159 Martin Stower 13-May-13 18:32
Re: William Wilberforce, crook 119 Scott Creighton 13-May-13 19:23
Moderator Caution #2 108 Hoppy 15-May-13 14:18
Re: William Wilberforce, crook 149 Martin Stower 15-May-13 14:52
Re: Audrey - How to photoshop a cartouche a la Vyse 167 Nejc 11-May-13 13:47
Re: Audrey - How to photoshop a cartouche a la Vyse 169 JonnyMcA 11-May-13 18:41
Re: Audrey - How to photoshop a cartouche a la Vyse 172 Audrey 12-May-13 07:59
Re: Audrey - How to photoshop a cartouche a la Vyse 159 JonnyMcA 12-May-13 09:58
Re: Audrey - How to photoshop a cartouche a la Vyse 205 HungryHun 12-May-13 13:00
Re: Audrey - How to photoshop a cartouche a la Vyse 150 HungryHun 13-May-13 12:46
Re: Caviglia's complaint.... 149 Thunderbird 13-May-13 16:20
Re: Audrey - How to photoshop a cartouche a la Vyse 146 HungryHun 13-May-13 19:36
Re: Audrey - How to photoshop a cartouche a la Vyse 140 Martin Stower 15-May-13 15:04
Re: Audrey - How to photoshop a cartouche a la Vyse 151 HungryHun 16-May-13 10:03
Re: Audrey - How to photoshop a cartouche a la Vyse 144 Martin Stower 16-May-13 10:47
Re: Audrey - How to photoshop a cartouche a la Vyse 131 Merrell 16-May-13 16:33
Re: Audrey - How to photoshop a cartouche a la Vyse 156 Martin Stower 18-May-13 15:02
Re: If fake, then... what? 168 MJT 16-May-13 12:45
More Vyse wickedness 170 Martin Stower 18-May-13 15:14
Re: More Vyse wickedness 217 Scott Creighton 19-May-13 09:01
Re: More Vyse wickedness 240 Martin Stower 20-May-13 16:44
Re: More Vyse wickedness 256 Scott Creighton 20-May-13 17:56
Re: More Vyse wickedness 282 jamesglory 21-May-13 10:26
Re: More Vyse wickedness 270 Audrey 22-May-13 02:42
Moderator Caution 175 Hoppy 20-May-13 17:57
Re: Audrey - How to photoshop a cartouche a la Vyse 192 Audrey 14-Jun-14 21:11
Re: Audrey - How to photoshop a cartouche a la Vyse 159 cladking 14-Jun-14 21:49
Re: Audrey - How to photoshop a cartouche a la Vyse 168 Scott Creighton 15-Jun-14 00:13
Re: Audrey - How to photoshop a cartouche a la Vyse 192 eyeofhorus33 15-Jun-14 00:58
Re: Audrey - How to photoshop a cartouche a la Vyse 162 cladking 15-Jun-14 01:12
Re: Audrey - How to photoshop a cartouche a la Vyse 162 Sirfiroth 15-Jun-14 19:09
Re: Audrey - How to photoshop a cartouche a la Vyse 193 cladking 15-Jun-14 20:40
Re: Audrey - How to photoshop a cartouche a la Vyse 177 Audrey 16-Jun-14 03:32
Re: Audrey - How to photoshop a cartouche a la Vyse 244 eyeofhorus33 16-Jun-14 18:38
Re: Audrey - How to photoshop a cartouche a la Vyse 175 Audrey 23-Jun-14 03:15
Australian Funeral 207 molder 15-Jun-14 05:03
Re: Australian Funeral 324 Audrey 16-Jun-14 03:56
Re: Australian Funeral 147 molder 16-Jun-14 12:06
Re: Australian Funeral 165 cladking 16-Jun-14 16:50
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