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Creighton,

Before you presume to deliver lectures on laziness, I suggest you do the following:

Stop lazily plagiarising other people’s bad ideas. As here: Sitchin’s ‘he got it all from a book’ (with the very minor adjustment of naming Rosellini instead of Wilkinson) and the late Alan Alford’s ‘all he needed to do was find an inscription elsewhere and copy it’.

Do the work it would take to understand the issue and understand what’s being said to you. You have very plainly understood neither.

It’s already been explained to you that Rosellini misread and misattributed the name Xnmw xwfw. And which cartouche name appears most frequently in the chambers? That’s right! Xnmw xwfw, the name a forger guided by Rosellini would not have used! The name xwfw appears just once.

This before we note the presence in the chambers of the Horus name of Khufu, Hr mDdw, which no one so much as recognised as a name in 1837.

Canonically, a Horus name appears in a serekh. Whoever wrote the relevant inscriptions knew, not only that is was a name but also that such a name could appear without the serekh in a linear (horizontal) inscription. This is nontrivial knowledge: anyone who possessed it in 1837 would have a strong claim to being the leading Egyptologist of the day — and that, Creighton, would have given Vyse all the fame he could handle, without the crazy risk of resorting to forgery. Needs must not.

As for the character which tells us that these names — comprising the royal names, plus the other characters — are crew names: that wasn’t understood until the early 20th century.

All he had to do was find inscriptions and copy them . . . Yeah, right: first of all, he’d have to recognise them as the right inscriptions to copy. Brighter readers will work out how difficult that would be from what I’ve written above.

In short, Creighton, Merrell is completely right: it would have taken a time machine.

You are completely wrong, which makes your ill-mannered sarcasm (unacceptable in any case) doubly unwarranted.

M.


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Audrey - How to photoshop a cartouche a la Vyse 1053 Dr. Troglodyte 10-May-13 20:14
William Wilberforce, crook 490 Martin Stower 11-May-13 12:17
Re: William Wilberforce, crook 458 Nejc 11-May-13 16:15
Re: William Wilberforce, crook 463 Merrell 11-May-13 18:36
Re: William Wilberforce, crook 461 Scott Creighton 12-May-13 11:27
Re: William Wilberforce, crook 539 Merrell 12-May-13 22:37
Re: William Wilberforce, crook 499 Scott Creighton 13-May-13 11:03
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Re: Wilberforce, abolitionist; Vyse, 458 Scott Creighton 13-May-13 13:21
Re: Wilberforce, abolitionist; Vyse, 472 Martin Stower 13-May-13 16:14
Re: Wilberforce, abolitionist; Vyse, 370 Scott Creighton 14-May-13 09:16
Re: Wilberforce, abolitionist; Vyse, 444 Merrell 14-May-13 09:41
Re: Wilberforce, abolitionist; Vyse, 454 Scott Creighton 14-May-13 09:47
Re: Wilberforce, abolitionist; Vyse, 458 Martin Stower 15-May-13 11:18
Re: Wilberforce, abolitionist; Vyse, 547 Scott Creighton 15-May-13 12:02
Re: Wilberforce, abolitionist; Vyse, 465 Martin Stower 15-May-13 14:26
Re: Wilberforce, abolitionist; Vyse, 406 Scott Creighton 15-May-13 15:00
Re: Wilberforce, abolitionist; Vyse, 506 Martin Stower 16-May-13 09:55
Re: Wilberforce, abolitionist; Vyse, 446 Scott Creighton 16-May-13 10:04
Re: Wilberforce, abolitionist; Vyse, 440 Martin Stower 16-May-13 10:34
Re: Wilberforce, abolitionist; Vyse, 384 Scott Creighton 16-May-13 10:43
Re: Wilberforce, abolitionist; Vyse, 447 Martin Stower 16-May-13 11:00
Re: Wilberforce, abolitionist; Vyse, 517 Scott Creighton 16-May-13 11:09
Re: Wilberforce, abolitionist; Vyse, 454 Martin Stower 16-May-13 11:31
Re: Wilberforce, abolitionist; Vyse, 420 Scott Creighton 16-May-13 11:36
Re: Wilberforce, abolitionist; Vyse, 419 cladking 16-May-13 15:14
Re: What are they so afraid of? 501 Thunderbird 16-May-13 15:55
Re: What are they so afraid of? 451 cladking 16-May-13 21:40
Calling Dr. Schoch 519 Dr. Troglodyte 16-May-13 16:04
Re: Calling Dr. Schoch 525 Scott Creighton 16-May-13 16:26
Logbook doubts 434 Merrell 16-May-13 21:38
Re: Logbook doubts 494 Scott Creighton 16-May-13 22:46
Re: Logbook doubts 390 Merrell 16-May-13 23:25
Re: Logbook doubts 455 Scott Creighton 17-May-13 08:00
Re: Logbook doubts 449 Merrell 17-May-13 14:30
Re: Logbook doubts 437 Scott Creighton 17-May-13 14:56
Re: Logbook doubts 443 Martin Stower 17-May-13 16:11
Re: Logbook doubts 430 Scott Creighton 17-May-13 20:53
Re: Logbook doubts 394 MJT 17-May-13 22:31
Re: Logbook doubts 485 Merrell 18-May-13 11:23
Re: Logbook doubts 536 Scott Creighton 18-May-13 12:10
Re: Logbook doubts 555 Martin Stower 20-May-13 17:54
Re: Logbook doubts 372 Scott Creighton 21-May-13 00:20
Re: Logbook doubts 452 Morten 21-May-13 09:03
Re: Logbook doubts 495 Scott Creighton 21-May-13 10:22
Re: Logbook doubts 494 Merrell 21-May-13 10:26
Re: Logbook doubts 421 Scott Creighton 21-May-13 10:35
Re: Logbook doubts 463 Merrell 21-May-13 13:46
Re: Logbook doubts 379 Morten 21-May-13 10:40
Re: Logbook doubts 463 Scott Creighton 21-May-13 11:04
Re: Logbook doubts 470 Morten 21-May-13 11:29
Re: Logbook doubts 490 Scott Creighton 21-May-13 12:04
Re: Logbook doubts 460 Morten 21-May-13 13:19
Re: Logbook doubts 534 Scott Creighton 21-May-13 13:33
Re: Logbook doubts 460 Merrell 21-May-13 14:16
Re: Logbook doubts 457 Scott Creighton 21-May-13 14:27
Re: Logbook doubts 501 Merrell 21-May-13 23:48
Re: Logbook doubts 485 Morten 21-May-13 14:37
Re: Logbook doubts 451 Scott Creighton 21-May-13 14:54
Re: Logbook doubts 485 Morten 22-May-13 10:51
Re: Logbook doubts 514 Martin Stower 21-May-13 17:13
Re: Logbook doubts 389 Audrey 22-May-13 02:20
Re: Logbook doubts 454 Morten 22-May-13 08:18
Re: Logbook doubts 416 Martin Stower 22-May-13 15:02
Re: Logbook doubts 427 Audrey 24-May-13 01:32
Re: Logbook doubts 611 Martin Stower 24-May-13 13:43
Re: Logbook doubts 345 Audrey 24-May-13 01:10
Re: Logbook doubts 387 Scott Creighton 10-Jun-14 13:15
Re: Logbook doubts 489 eyeofhorus33 10-Jun-14 18:17
Re: Logbook doubts 480 Scott Creighton 10-Jun-14 22:01
Re: Logbook doubts 427 eyeofhorus33 10-Jun-14 22:15
Re:Khufu....Hyksos? 451 Thunderbird 11-Jun-14 01:36
Re: Logbook doubts 446 Audrey 11-Jun-14 20:47
Re: Logbook doubts 528 eyeofhorus33 11-Jun-14 22:18
Re: Logbook doubts 476 Audrey 12-Jun-14 21:22
Re: Logbook doubts 418 eyeofhorus33 12-Jun-14 22:20
Re: Logbook doubts 423 cladking 13-Jun-14 00:24
Re: Logbook doubts 408 eyeofhorus33 13-Jun-14 22:53
Re: Logbook doubts 408 cladking 13-Jun-14 23:23
Re: Logbook doubts 423 eyeofhorus33 13-Jun-14 23:48
Re: Logbook doubts 416 cladking 14-Jun-14 00:17
Re: Logbook doubts 443 Audrey 14-Jun-14 02:17
Re: Logbook doubts 481 eyeofhorus33 14-Jun-14 11:44
Re: Logbook doubts 438 cladking 14-Jun-14 15:25
context and customs 389 Audrey 14-Jun-14 19:25
Re: context and customs 373 cladking 14-Jun-14 21:23
Re: Logbook doubts 454 eyeofhorus33 14-Jun-14 21:29
Re: Logbook doubts 433 cladking 14-Jun-14 22:07
Re: Logbook doubts 423 eyeofhorus33 14-Jun-14 23:04
Re: Logbook doubts 449 cladking 15-Jun-14 00:29
Re: Logbook doubts 455 eyeofhorus33 15-Jun-14 18:35
Re: Logbook doubts 430 cladking 15-Jun-14 20:56
Re: Logbook doubts 436 eyeofhorus33 15-Jun-14 21:26
Language doubts 398 cladking 15-Jun-14 21:48
Re: Language doubts 401 eyeofhorus33 15-Jun-14 22:05
Re: Language doubts 417 cladking 15-Jun-14 22:51
Re: Language doubts 418 Audrey 16-Jun-14 04:17
Re: Language doubts 464 cladking 16-Jun-14 04:51
Re: Logbook doubts 334 cladking 12-Jun-14 22:57
Re:doubts 438 Thunderbird 11-Jun-14 23:36
Re:doubts 401 Audrey 12-Jun-14 19:54
Moderator Notice 389 Hoppy 22-May-13 01:32
Re: Logbook doubts 382 Audrey 22-May-13 02:52
Re: Logbook doubts 363 Martin Stower 18-May-13 13:37
Re: Logbook doubts 426 Scott Creighton 18-May-13 14:01
Re: Logbook doubts 404 Martin Stower 18-May-13 14:52
Re: Logbook doubts 406 Scott Creighton 18-May-13 17:16
Re: Logbook doubts 491 Martin Stower 20-May-13 16:57
Re: Logbook doubts 421 Scott Creighton 20-May-13 17:51
Re: Logbook doubts 393 Martin Stower 20-May-13 18:25
Re: Logbook doubts 270 Scott Creighton 20-May-13 18:49
Re: Logbook doubts 453 Martin Stower 21-May-13 15:42
Re: Logbook doubts 415 HungryHun 17-May-13 15:20
Re: Conspired.... 432 Thunderbird 17-May-13 15:47
Re: Conspired.... 422 HungryHun 17-May-13 16:04
Re: Conspired.... 393 Thunderbird 17-May-13 23:17
Re: Conspired....inspire d by money 425 Ratcho 03-Jun-13 05:57
Re: Logbook doubts 361 Martin Stower 17-May-13 16:23
Re: Logbook doubts 426 HungryHun 17-May-13 16:28
Re: Logbook doubts 422 Thunderbird 17-May-13 22:25
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Re: Would you buy a used cartouche from this man? 372 Nejc 29-May-13 23:23
Re: Would you buy a used cartouche from this man? 394 Merrell 30-May-13 09:25
Re: Would you buy a used cartouche from this man? 443 Martin Stower 30-May-13 12:48
Re: Would you buy a used cartouche from this man? 431 WINDINWATERS 30-May-13 14:40
Re: Would you buy a used cartouche from this man? 328 Martin Stower 31-May-13 18:00
Re: Would you buy a used cartouche from this man? 386 WINDINWATERS 31-May-13 21:47
Re: Would you buy a used cartouche from this man? 374 LonelyAngel 30-May-13 17:43
Re: Would you buy a used cartouche from this man? 374 Martin Stower 31-May-13 18:24
Re: Would you buy a used cartouche from this man? 434 cladking 01-Jun-13 03:28
Re: Would you buy a used cartouche from this man? 421 Merrell 01-Jun-13 11:02
Re: Would you buy a used cartouche from this man? 360 LonelyAngel 03-Jun-13 20:59
Re: Would you buy a used cartouche from this man? 375 LonelyAngel 03-Jun-13 20:47
Re: Logbook doubts 581 Martin Stower 17-May-13 15:51
Re: Logbook doubts 417 Scott Creighton 17-May-13 20:27
Re: Logbook doubts 441 Nejc 17-May-13 22:28
Re: Logbook doubts 798 Martin Stower 18-May-13 14:43
Re: Logbook doubts 659 Scott Creighton 18-May-13 17:12
Re: Logbook doubts 489 Merrell 19-May-13 16:43
Re: Logbook doubts 426 Scott Creighton 20-May-13 09:38
Re: Logbook doubts 392 Merrell 20-May-13 13:29
Re: Logbook doubts 520 Scott Creighton 20-May-13 13:58
Re: Logbook doubts 396 Merrell 20-May-13 14:55
Re: Logbook doubts 420 Scott Creighton 20-May-13 18:46
Re: Logbook doubts 459 HungryHun 20-May-13 22:02
Re: Logbook doubts 419 Thanos5150 20-May-13 23:05
Re: Logbook doubts 435 sfbey 20-May-13 23:23
Re: Logbook doubts 430 Thanos5150 20-May-13 23:35
Re: Logbook doubts 434 sfbey 21-May-13 15:41
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Re: Logbook doubts 322 Scott Creighton 20-May-13 23:38
Re: Logbook doubts 346 Merrell 21-May-13 21:34
Re: Logbook doubts 351 Audrey 22-May-13 02:34
Re: Logbook doubts 397 Merrell 21-May-13 21:58
Re: Logbook doubts 419 Sirfiroth 22-May-13 10:42
Re: Logbook doubts 377 Merrell 22-May-13 11:43
Re: Logbook doubts 353 Sirfiroth 22-May-13 17:44
Re: Logbook doubts 302 Nejc 22-May-13 23:18
Re: Logbook doubts 298 cladking 23-May-13 00:51
Re: Logbook doubts 304 Merrell 23-May-13 08:41
Re: Logbook doubts 336 Martin Stower 20-May-13 19:19
Re: Logbook doubts 250 Scott Creighton 20-May-13 19:35
Re: Logbook doubts 377 Martin Stower 21-May-13 17:59
Moderator Warning 443 JonnyMcA 21-May-13 20:12
Moderator Warning 361 JonnyMcA 21-May-13 20:11
Re: exercise elementary caution about sources 331 Thunderbird 20-May-13 19:36
Re: Logbook doubts 369 Audrey 22-May-13 02:50
Re: Logbook doubts 316 Merrell 22-May-13 12:53
Re: Logbook doubts 291 Audrey 24-May-13 01:48
Moderator Caution 239 Hoppy 22-May-13 12:55
Re: Logbook doubts 209 Martin Stower 22-May-13 16:06
Re: Logbook doubts 209 Audrey 24-May-13 01:41
Re: Logbook doubts 209 Martin Stower 24-May-13 13:56
Re: Logbook doubts 187 Thunderbird 17-May-13 22:40
Re: Calling Dr. Schoch 272 Thanos5150 16-May-13 19:41
Re: Calling Dr. Schoch 238 Dr. Troglodyte 16-May-13 21:56
Re: Calling Dr. Schoch 227 Thanos5150 16-May-13 23:11
Re: Calling Dr. Schoch 208 Dr. Troglodyte 17-May-13 00:01
Re: Calling Dr. Schoch 247 Thanos5150 17-May-13 00:30
Re: Calling Dr. Schoch 213 cladking 16-May-13 21:50
Moderator Caution 265 Hoppy 15-May-13 14:09
Re: William Wilberforce, crook 181 Martin Stower 13-May-13 16:53
Re: William Wilberforce, crook 218 Scott Creighton 13-May-13 17:40
Re: William Wilberforce, crook 213 Martin Stower 13-May-13 18:32
Re: William Wilberforce, crook 147 Scott Creighton 13-May-13 19:23
Moderator Caution #2 139 Hoppy 15-May-13 14:18
Re: William Wilberforce, crook 169 Martin Stower 15-May-13 14:52
Re: Audrey - How to photoshop a cartouche a la Vyse 203 Nejc 11-May-13 13:47
Re: Audrey - How to photoshop a cartouche a la Vyse 193 JonnyMcA 11-May-13 18:41
Re: Audrey - How to photoshop a cartouche a la Vyse 200 Audrey 12-May-13 07:59
Re: Audrey - How to photoshop a cartouche a la Vyse 181 JonnyMcA 12-May-13 09:58
Re: Audrey - How to photoshop a cartouche a la Vyse 230 HungryHun 12-May-13 13:00
Re: Audrey - How to photoshop a cartouche a la Vyse 173 HungryHun 13-May-13 12:46
Re: Caviglia's complaint.... 186 Thunderbird 13-May-13 16:20
Re: Audrey - How to photoshop a cartouche a la Vyse 180 HungryHun 13-May-13 19:36
Re: Audrey - How to photoshop a cartouche a la Vyse 169 Martin Stower 15-May-13 15:04
Re: Audrey - How to photoshop a cartouche a la Vyse 174 HungryHun 16-May-13 10:03
Re: Audrey - How to photoshop a cartouche a la Vyse 175 Martin Stower 16-May-13 10:47
Re: Audrey - How to photoshop a cartouche a la Vyse 156 Merrell 16-May-13 16:33
Re: Audrey - How to photoshop a cartouche a la Vyse 180 Martin Stower 18-May-13 15:02
Re: If fake, then... what? 210 MJT 16-May-13 12:45
More Vyse wickedness 194 Martin Stower 18-May-13 15:14
Re: More Vyse wickedness 259 Scott Creighton 19-May-13 09:01
Re: More Vyse wickedness 264 Martin Stower 20-May-13 16:44
Re: More Vyse wickedness 286 Scott Creighton 20-May-13 17:56
Re: More Vyse wickedness 323 jamesglory 21-May-13 10:26
Re: More Vyse wickedness 299 Audrey 22-May-13 02:42
Moderator Caution 231 Hoppy 20-May-13 17:57
Re: Audrey - How to photoshop a cartouche a la Vyse 217 Audrey 14-Jun-14 21:11
Re: Audrey - How to photoshop a cartouche a la Vyse 182 cladking 14-Jun-14 21:49
Re: Audrey - How to photoshop a cartouche a la Vyse 195 Scott Creighton 15-Jun-14 00:13
Re: Audrey - How to photoshop a cartouche a la Vyse 215 eyeofhorus33 15-Jun-14 00:58
Re: Audrey - How to photoshop a cartouche a la Vyse 184 cladking 15-Jun-14 01:12
Re: Audrey - How to photoshop a cartouche a la Vyse 186 Sirfiroth 15-Jun-14 19:09
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Re: Audrey - How to photoshop a cartouche a la Vyse 287 eyeofhorus33 16-Jun-14 18:38
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