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Archae Solenhofen wrote:

> So what is so advanced here.... other than the use of a drag
> saw connected to a pendulum and the ability to work rock by
> traditional methods with skill?

There is no evidence of Moores copper pendulum drag saw or the holes he envisions must have accompanied them and none of the pictures I have shown except for possibly the one lone cut, though unlikely, have anything to do with a drag saw. The bottom picture is clear evidence of a circular saw and there are other examples of circular blade cuts at Abu Roash among others. Egyptologist John Romer says this magic copper drag saw must have had a blade at least 13ft long. It took Stocks 14hrs to cut a depth of 1.2" in Aswan granite using copper saws which means it would take 4 months working 8hrs a day 7 days a week to cut just one 3' x 3' x 3' granite block. He got less then 1"/hr with a copper bow drill on granite but estimates the awesome Egyptians could have gotten as much as a whopping 4-5"/hr. Lehner estimates the Egyptians would have needed hundreds of thousands if not millions of copper chisels requiring "unimaginable" amounts of wood to continuously reshape them and now we are to add hundreds if not thousands of 13ft copper saws to this total? And what about these copper tubular drills that like the pendulum saw no one can find? Hundreds? Thousands? Was there even enough copper in Egypt for one, or wood for that matter, but regardless there would have needed to have been several smelting/manufacturing plants running constantly as well as hundreds if not not thousands of portable smelting stations to reshape the chisels at the work site all of which are no where to be found either.

And why is it the carpentry tool kit is present since pre-dynastic times in relative abundance either physically or pictorially, and yet this same tool kit Egyptologists modify to try and impose on stone working is nowhere to be found? Or how about the imaginary lapidary slabbing saws you have invented for the AE though by your own article they didn't appear in China until 1900-1600BC and used a coiled bronze wire blade? No evidence of those either or Stocks bow drill. The problem is not just that the imaginary tool kit alternative proponents suggest can't be found, its the imaginary tool kit the orthodox have invented for them that is missing as well. Not to mention the copper and wood industry required to make and maintain them.

Sorry to disappoint you, but I am not a proponent of ancient aliens or electric power tools to explain the machining though it is obvious there is more going on here than just copper chisels, bow saws, and sticks and string. At the very least, for a start, they must have used the wheel for various purposes in the construction process and had access to a sufficient amount of bronze tools. Apparently Peitrie agrees "[their tools]... comprised bronze saws over eight feet long, set with jewels, tubular drills similarly set with jewels, and circular saws. " Maybe not jewels, but how about pounded quartz?

The AE, at the least, had extensive trade contact with Mesopotamians prior to Dynastic times and through the OK whom already had the wheel and used bronze tools for a more than 1000yrs before Khufu's time and yet the Egyptians remained magically oblivious to it despite the fact they too had wheels in one form or another as well as bronze artifacts? The Mesopotamians also widely used oxen as beasts of burden well before and during this time as did the Egyptians yet they didn't bother using them when it came to pyramid building? It is impossible they remained willfully ignorant of these technologies and highly likely their introduction in pre-dynastic times by Mesopotamians was a key factor in the explosion of Egyptian stone working in the first place. If all the other higher tools are missing it shouldn't be much of a stretch that these would be absent as well especially the bronze tools which no doubt were costly and highly prized property of the state kept in government stores and one of the first things to be plundered and recycled.

If we add the wheel, beasts of burden, and substitute copper tools for bronze there is much less need to keep pounding a square peg into a round hole as Egyptologists keep doing insisting they must have only used the simplest of copper tools. How many copper chisels does one bronze chisel replace? 10? 100? 1000? How many men are replaced by a gang of oxen? Back breaking pounders that chip inches a day or tripod percussion drills that do 10 times the work with a fraction of the effort? If we accept the obvious, countless thousands of man hours and tons of imaginary wood instantly disappear making an implausible situation, which even then does not account for everything, at least a lot more palatable. No ancient aliens required, just common sense and the acceptance they were not as primitive as you wish them to be. The wheel, bronze, and beasts of burden are still not enough in my opinion, but at least it gets a credible conversation started because any less of a baseline than that is absurd. Just nonsense.



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Re: How many swings would it take 279 Susan Doris 20-Feb-13 17:31
Re: How many swings would it take 320 cladking 20-Feb-13 21:24
If you have the time... 292 Ratcho 22-Feb-13 22:48
Re: How many swings would it take 335 Archae Solenhofen 20-Feb-13 18:14
Re: How many swings would it take 269 cladking 20-Feb-13 21:30
Re: How many swings would it take 350 wordsmyth 21-Feb-13 08:39
Re: How many swings would it take 359 Scott Creighton 21-Feb-13 08:45
Re: How many swings would it take 300 Archae Solenhofen 21-Feb-13 17:32
Re: How many swings would it take 311 Scott Creighton 21-Feb-13 18:04
Re: How many swings would it take 284 Archae Solenhofen 21-Feb-13 19:55
Re: How many swings would it take 289 Scott Creighton 21-Feb-13 21:40
I'd still like to know 295 Ratcho 21-Feb-13 22:02
Re: I'd still like to know 327 Archae Solenhofen 21-Feb-13 22:43
Re: I'd still like to know 286 wordsmyth 21-Feb-13 23:47
Re: I'd still like to know 294 wordsmyth 22-Feb-13 00:10
Re: I'd still like to know 317 Archae Solenhofen 22-Feb-13 00:11
Re: Unfortunately, I'd still don't care... 305 wordsmyth 22-Feb-13 00:31
Re: Unfortunately, I'd still don't care... 334 Archae Solenhofen 22-Feb-13 00:47
Re: Unfortunately, I'd still don't care... 305 wordsmyth 22-Feb-13 07:47
Re: Unfortunately, I'd still don't care... 305 Archae Solenhofen 22-Feb-13 16:42
Re: How many swings would it take 355 wordsmyth 22-Feb-13 00:20
Re: How many swings would it take 253 Susan Doris 21-Feb-13 13:44
Re: How many swings would it take 269 Archae Solenhofen 21-Feb-13 16:09
Re: How many swings would it take 296 Scott Creighton 21-Feb-13 18:59
Re: How many swings would it take 315 Archae Solenhofen 21-Feb-13 20:06
Re: How many swings would it take 299 Scott Creighton 21-Feb-13 21:43
Re: How many swings would it take 298 Archae Solenhofen 21-Feb-13 22:22
Re: How many swings would it take 293 Scott Creighton 21-Feb-13 22:30
Re: How many swings would it take 292 Archae Solenhofen 21-Feb-13 22:48
Re: How many swings would it take 314 Morten 22-Feb-13 10:52
Re: How many swings would it take 300 wordsmyth 22-Feb-13 23:30
Re: How many swings would it take 415 Scott Creighton 21-Feb-13 22:55
Mod Note > Off Topic Sub-Thread 196 Dr. Troglodyte 22-Feb-13 00:01
Re: How many swings would it take 302 richarddullum 22-Feb-13 03:20
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 260 Audrey 13-Feb-13 23:21
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 313 Susan Doris 14-Feb-13 14:59
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 260 cladking 14-Feb-13 16:07
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 313 Archae Solenhofen 14-Feb-13 15:29
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 325 cladking 14-Feb-13 16:14
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 345 Archae Solenhofen 14-Feb-13 16:41
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 291 cladking 14-Feb-13 18:57
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 314 Thanos5150 20-Jan-13 19:04
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 250 Workjay 21-Jan-13 02:42
Re: Myth and Truth 292 Thunderbird 20-Jan-13 17:33
Re: Myth and Truth 322 wordsmyth 20-Jan-13 18:34
Re: Myth and Truth 337 cladking 20-Jan-13 22:30
Re: Myth and Truth 351 Glorious 20-Jan-13 23:31
Re: Myth and Truth 318 cladking 21-Jan-13 00:26
Re: Perception 434 Thunderbird 21-Jan-13 04:15
Re: Perception 330 Glorious 21-Jan-13 05:34
Re: Perception 283 Chris Jordan 21-Jan-13 07:45
Re: Perception 317 loveritas 21-Jan-13 11:32
Re: Change of Perception 341 Chris Jordan 21-Jan-13 16:20
Re: words/music /NT 244 Thunderbird 21-Jan-13 04:45
Re: words/music /NT 313 wordsmyth 23-Jan-13 08:14
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 329 Anomalies 21-Jan-13 16:53
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 296 Workjay 21-Jan-13 17:59
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 302 Anomalies 21-Jan-13 18:13
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 338 Susan Doris 28-Jan-13 16:29
Who knew? 322 cladking 28-Jan-13 22:07
Re: Who knew? 435 Susan Doris 01-Feb-13 18:25
Re: Who knew? 306 cladking 01-Feb-13 20:42
Egyptology Debunked; they wouldn't know a snake if it bit them. 343 cladking 28-Jan-13 21:04
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 279 cladking 21-Jan-13 18:16
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 297 Anomalies 22-Jan-13 15:09
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 234 cladking 22-Jan-13 15:39
'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 311 Anomalies 22-Jan-13 15:54
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 329 Workjay 22-Jan-13 16:10
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 217 Anomalies 22-Jan-13 16:32
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 267 Workjay 22-Jan-13 21:06
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 336 Anomalies 23-Jan-13 14:53
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 290 Workjay 23-Jan-13 21:10
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 302 Anomalies 23-Jan-13 21:51
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 292 Workjay 23-Jan-13 22:58
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 266 richarddullum 24-Jan-13 02:21
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 268 Workjay 24-Jan-13 02:46
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 232 richarddullum 24-Jan-13 14:33
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 314 Aine 24-Jan-13 13:00
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 300 richarddullum 25-Jan-13 01:57
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 269 Susan Doris 27-Jan-13 13:02
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 324 Susan Doris 02-Feb-13 14:01
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 301 Anomalies 05-Feb-13 15:41
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 280 Workjay 05-Feb-13 17:39
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 313 Anomalies 05-Feb-13 21:25
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 314 Workjay 06-Feb-13 17:31
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 297 Ratcho 06-Feb-13 19:02
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 268 Anomalies 06-Feb-13 21:54
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 263 Workjay 06-Feb-13 22:19
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 193 cladking 22-Jan-13 16:29
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 186 Anomalies 21-Jan-13 16:07
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 189 Workjay 21-Jan-13 16:13
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 178 carolb 21-Jan-13 17:52
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 178 Anomalies 21-Jan-13 18:00
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 173 carolb 21-Jan-13 18:05
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 192 Anomalies 21-Jan-13 19:01
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 202 carolb 21-Jan-13 19:07
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 185 Anomalies 21-Jan-13 19:21
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 212 carolb 21-Jan-13 19:42
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 174 Anomalies 21-Jan-13 19:58
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 199 carolb 21-Jan-13 20:17
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 178 Anomalies 21-Jan-13 20:27
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 200 Susan Doris 14-Feb-13 14:42
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 184 Anomalies 22-Jan-13 14:50
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 159 wordsmyth 23-Jan-13 08:35
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 194 Workjay 22-Jan-13 02:20
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 195 richarddullum 22-Jan-13 14:31
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 227 Aine 22-Jan-13 14:49
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 195 Anomalies 22-Jan-13 14:56
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 241 Aine 22-Jan-13 15:29
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 243 Aine 22-Jan-13 15:47
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 180 Anomalies 22-Jan-13 16:08
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 265 Aine 22-Jan-13 16:23
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 255 Aine 22-Jan-13 16:24
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 240 richarddullum 23-Jan-13 04:50
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 184 wordsmyth 23-Jan-13 08:52
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 196 richarddullum 23-Jan-13 14:28
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 222 wordsmyth 23-Jan-13 15:19
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 255 Aine 23-Jan-13 15:42
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 178 richarddullum 24-Jan-13 02:03
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 242 Aine 23-Jan-13 14:39
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 225 wordsmyth 23-Jan-13 15:09
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 258 Aine 24-Jan-13 13:19
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 203 wordsmyth 25-Jan-13 05:08
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 204 Glorious 25-Jan-13 05:49
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 243 Susan Doris 25-Jan-13 06:47
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 182 wordsmyth 25-Jan-13 07:03
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 181 Glorious 25-Jan-13 07:32
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 169 wordsmyth 25-Jan-13 08:09
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 169 cladking 25-Jan-13 16:32
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 190 Susan Doris 23-Jan-13 06:54
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 207 Glorious 23-Jan-13 07:43
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 250 Aine 23-Jan-13 14:47
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 215 BobbyH 22-Jan-13 19:21
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 234 Aine 22-Jan-13 19:41
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 192 BobbyH 22-Jan-13 19:56
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 240 Aine 22-Jan-13 19:59
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 244 Aine 22-Jan-13 20:09
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 220 Glorious 22-Jan-13 20:52
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 188 BobbyH 22-Jan-13 14:57
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 192 Workjay 22-Jan-13 15:08
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 206 BobbyH 22-Jan-13 15:41
Episode: "Destination Orion" was very well done 190 David L 17-Jan-13 17:35
Re: Episode: "Destination Orion" was very well done 170 Thomas Brophy 03-Mar-13 23:30
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 124 wordsmyth 23-Jan-13 08:10
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 226 Archae Solenhofen 25-Jan-13 03:28
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 220 wordsmyth 25-Jan-13 06:32
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 277 Thanos5150 25-Jan-13 18:22
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 208 Sangreal Sea 25-Jan-13 19:11
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 198 Warwick 11-Feb-13 22:32
The latest episode "Alien Abductions" is the most absurd yet 181 David L 23-Feb-13 23:41
Re: The latest episode "Alien Abductions" is the most absurd yet 180 Anomalies 25-Feb-13 19:00
Re: The latest episode "Alien Abductions" is the most absurd yet 141 David L 26-Feb-13 01:44
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 125 LanceHall 23-Mar-13 00:28


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