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Archae Solenhofen wrote:

> So what is so advanced here.... other than the use of a drag
> saw connected to a pendulum and the ability to work rock by
> traditional methods with skill?

There is no evidence of Moores copper pendulum drag saw or the holes he envisions must have accompanied them and none of the pictures I have shown except for possibly the one lone cut, though unlikely, have anything to do with a drag saw. The bottom picture is clear evidence of a circular saw and there are other examples of circular blade cuts at Abu Roash among others. Egyptologist John Romer says this magic copper drag saw must have had a blade at least 13ft long. It took Stocks 14hrs to cut a depth of 1.2" in Aswan granite using copper saws which means it would take 4 months working 8hrs a day 7 days a week to cut just one 3' x 3' x 3' granite block. He got less then 1"/hr with a copper bow drill on granite but estimates the awesome Egyptians could have gotten as much as a whopping 4-5"/hr. Lehner estimates the Egyptians would have needed hundreds of thousands if not millions of copper chisels requiring "unimaginable" amounts of wood to continuously reshape them and now we are to add hundreds if not thousands of 13ft copper saws to this total? And what about these copper tubular drills that like the pendulum saw no one can find? Hundreds? Thousands? Was there even enough copper in Egypt for one, or wood for that matter, but regardless there would have needed to have been several smelting/manufacturing plants running constantly as well as hundreds if not not thousands of portable smelting stations to reshape the chisels at the work site all of which are no where to be found either.

And why is it the carpentry tool kit is present since pre-dynastic times in relative abundance either physically or pictorially, and yet this same tool kit Egyptologists modify to try and impose on stone working is nowhere to be found? Or how about the imaginary lapidary slabbing saws you have invented for the AE though by your own article they didn't appear in China until 1900-1600BC and used a coiled bronze wire blade? No evidence of those either or Stocks bow drill. The problem is not just that the imaginary tool kit alternative proponents suggest can't be found, its the imaginary tool kit the orthodox have invented for them that is missing as well. Not to mention the copper and wood industry required to make and maintain them.

Sorry to disappoint you, but I am not a proponent of ancient aliens or electric power tools to explain the machining though it is obvious there is more going on here than just copper chisels, bow saws, and sticks and string. At the very least, for a start, they must have used the wheel for various purposes in the construction process and had access to a sufficient amount of bronze tools. Apparently Peitrie agrees "[their tools]... comprised bronze saws over eight feet long, set with jewels, tubular drills similarly set with jewels, and circular saws. " Maybe not jewels, but how about pounded quartz?

The AE, at the least, had extensive trade contact with Mesopotamians prior to Dynastic times and through the OK whom already had the wheel and used bronze tools for a more than 1000yrs before Khufu's time and yet the Egyptians remained magically oblivious to it despite the fact they too had wheels in one form or another as well as bronze artifacts? The Mesopotamians also widely used oxen as beasts of burden well before and during this time as did the Egyptians yet they didn't bother using them when it came to pyramid building? It is impossible they remained willfully ignorant of these technologies and highly likely their introduction in pre-dynastic times by Mesopotamians was a key factor in the explosion of Egyptian stone working in the first place. If all the other higher tools are missing it shouldn't be much of a stretch that these would be absent as well especially the bronze tools which no doubt were costly and highly prized property of the state kept in government stores and one of the first things to be plundered and recycled.

If we add the wheel, beasts of burden, and substitute copper tools for bronze there is much less need to keep pounding a square peg into a round hole as Egyptologists keep doing insisting they must have only used the simplest of copper tools. How many copper chisels does one bronze chisel replace? 10? 100? 1000? How many men are replaced by a gang of oxen? Back breaking pounders that chip inches a day or tripod percussion drills that do 10 times the work with a fraction of the effort? If we accept the obvious, countless thousands of man hours and tons of imaginary wood instantly disappear making an implausible situation, which even then does not account for everything, at least a lot more palatable. No ancient aliens required, just common sense and the acceptance they were not as primitive as you wish them to be. The wheel, bronze, and beasts of burden are still not enough in my opinion, but at least it gets a credible conversation started because any less of a baseline than that is absurd. Just nonsense.



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Re: How many swings would it take 362 Susan Doris 20-Feb-13 17:31
Re: How many swings would it take 393 cladking 20-Feb-13 21:24
If you have the time... 350 Ratcho 22-Feb-13 22:48
Re: How many swings would it take 414 Archae Solenhofen 20-Feb-13 18:14
Re: How many swings would it take 340 cladking 20-Feb-13 21:30
Re: How many swings would it take 428 wordsmyth 21-Feb-13 08:39
Re: How many swings would it take 430 Scott Creighton 21-Feb-13 08:45
Re: How many swings would it take 364 Archae Solenhofen 21-Feb-13 17:32
Re: How many swings would it take 384 Scott Creighton 21-Feb-13 18:04
Re: How many swings would it take 337 Archae Solenhofen 21-Feb-13 19:55
Re: How many swings would it take 356 Scott Creighton 21-Feb-13 21:40
I'd still like to know 349 Ratcho 21-Feb-13 22:02
Re: I'd still like to know 396 Archae Solenhofen 21-Feb-13 22:43
Re: I'd still like to know 346 wordsmyth 21-Feb-13 23:47
Re: I'd still like to know 355 wordsmyth 22-Feb-13 00:10
Re: I'd still like to know 380 Archae Solenhofen 22-Feb-13 00:11
Re: Unfortunately, I'd still don't care... 388 wordsmyth 22-Feb-13 00:31
Re: Unfortunately, I'd still don't care... 389 Archae Solenhofen 22-Feb-13 00:47
Re: Unfortunately, I'd still don't care... 364 wordsmyth 22-Feb-13 07:47
Re: Unfortunately, I'd still don't care... 388 Archae Solenhofen 22-Feb-13 16:42
Re: How many swings would it take 435 wordsmyth 22-Feb-13 00:20
Re: How many swings would it take 309 Susan Doris 21-Feb-13 13:44
Re: How many swings would it take 318 Archae Solenhofen 21-Feb-13 16:09
Re: How many swings would it take 370 Scott Creighton 21-Feb-13 18:59
Re: How many swings would it take 392 Archae Solenhofen 21-Feb-13 20:06
Re: How many swings would it take 366 Scott Creighton 21-Feb-13 21:43
Re: How many swings would it take 376 Archae Solenhofen 21-Feb-13 22:22
Re: How many swings would it take 383 Scott Creighton 21-Feb-13 22:30
Re: How many swings would it take 364 Archae Solenhofen 21-Feb-13 22:48
Re: How many swings would it take 388 Morten 22-Feb-13 10:52
Re: How many swings would it take 360 wordsmyth 22-Feb-13 23:30
Re: How many swings would it take 485 Scott Creighton 21-Feb-13 22:55
Mod Note > Off Topic Sub-Thread 257 Dr. Troglodyte 22-Feb-13 00:01
Re: How many swings would it take 376 richarddullum 22-Feb-13 03:20
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 319 Audrey 13-Feb-13 23:21
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 385 Susan Doris 14-Feb-13 14:59
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 326 cladking 14-Feb-13 16:07
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 388 Archae Solenhofen 14-Feb-13 15:29
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 370 cladking 14-Feb-13 16:14
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 405 Archae Solenhofen 14-Feb-13 16:41
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 350 cladking 14-Feb-13 18:57
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 387 Thanos5150 20-Jan-13 19:04
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 298 Workjay 21-Jan-13 02:42
Re: Myth and Truth 376 Thunderbird 20-Jan-13 17:33
Re: Myth and Truth 384 wordsmyth 20-Jan-13 18:34
Re: Myth and Truth 417 cladking 20-Jan-13 22:30
Re: Myth and Truth 430 Glorious 20-Jan-13 23:31
Re: Myth and Truth 399 cladking 21-Jan-13 00:26
Re: Perception 509 Thunderbird 21-Jan-13 04:15
Re: Perception 395 Glorious 21-Jan-13 05:34
Re: Perception 342 Chris Jordan 21-Jan-13 07:45
Re: Perception 383 loveritas 21-Jan-13 11:32
Re: Change of Perception 399 Chris Jordan 21-Jan-13 16:20
Re: words/music /NT 316 Thunderbird 21-Jan-13 04:45
Re: words/music /NT 395 wordsmyth 23-Jan-13 08:14
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 385 Anomalies 21-Jan-13 16:53
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 377 Workjay 21-Jan-13 17:59
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 377 Anomalies 21-Jan-13 18:13
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 432 Susan Doris 28-Jan-13 16:29
Who knew? 401 cladking 28-Jan-13 22:07
Re: Who knew? 520 Susan Doris 01-Feb-13 18:25
Re: Who knew? 362 cladking 01-Feb-13 20:42
Egyptology Debunked; they wouldn't know a snake if it bit them. 459 cladking 28-Jan-13 21:04
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 364 cladking 21-Jan-13 18:16
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 367 Anomalies 22-Jan-13 15:09
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 298 cladking 22-Jan-13 15:39
'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 385 Anomalies 22-Jan-13 15:54
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 403 Workjay 22-Jan-13 16:10
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 279 Anomalies 22-Jan-13 16:32
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 363 Workjay 22-Jan-13 21:06
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 420 Anomalies 23-Jan-13 14:53
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 376 Workjay 23-Jan-13 21:10
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 379 Anomalies 23-Jan-13 21:51
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 375 Workjay 23-Jan-13 22:58
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 331 richarddullum 24-Jan-13 02:21
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 362 Workjay 24-Jan-13 02:46
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 293 richarddullum 24-Jan-13 14:33
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 377 Aine 24-Jan-13 13:00
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 370 richarddullum 25-Jan-13 01:57
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 337 Susan Doris 27-Jan-13 13:02
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 407 Susan Doris 02-Feb-13 14:01
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 367 Anomalies 05-Feb-13 15:41
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 358 Workjay 05-Feb-13 17:39
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 387 Anomalies 05-Feb-13 21:25
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 393 Workjay 06-Feb-13 17:31
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 382 Ratcho 06-Feb-13 19:02
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 337 Anomalies 06-Feb-13 21:54
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 333 Workjay 06-Feb-13 22:19
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 273 cladking 22-Jan-13 16:29
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 268 Anomalies 21-Jan-13 16:07
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 273 Workjay 21-Jan-13 16:13
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 247 carolb 21-Jan-13 17:52
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 250 Anomalies 21-Jan-13 18:00
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 291 carolb 21-Jan-13 18:05
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 254 Anomalies 21-Jan-13 19:01
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 293 carolb 21-Jan-13 19:07
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 262 Anomalies 21-Jan-13 19:21
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 314 carolb 21-Jan-13 19:42
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 273 Anomalies 21-Jan-13 19:58
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 278 carolb 21-Jan-13 20:17
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 238 Anomalies 21-Jan-13 20:27
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 266 Susan Doris 14-Feb-13 14:42
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 281 Anomalies 22-Jan-13 14:50
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 237 wordsmyth 23-Jan-13 08:35
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 272 Workjay 22-Jan-13 02:20
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 277 richarddullum 22-Jan-13 14:31
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 298 Aine 22-Jan-13 14:49
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 286 Anomalies 22-Jan-13 14:56
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 314 Aine 22-Jan-13 15:29
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 335 Aine 22-Jan-13 15:47
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 241 Anomalies 22-Jan-13 16:08
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 345 Aine 22-Jan-13 16:23
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 325 Aine 22-Jan-13 16:24
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 301 richarddullum 23-Jan-13 04:50
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 258 wordsmyth 23-Jan-13 08:52
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 273 richarddullum 23-Jan-13 14:28
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 290 wordsmyth 23-Jan-13 15:19
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 323 Aine 23-Jan-13 15:42
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 275 richarddullum 24-Jan-13 02:03
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 285 Aine 23-Jan-13 14:39
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 296 wordsmyth 23-Jan-13 15:09
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 338 Aine 24-Jan-13 13:19
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 284 wordsmyth 25-Jan-13 05:08
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 283 Glorious 25-Jan-13 05:49
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 339 Susan Doris 25-Jan-13 06:47
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 284 wordsmyth 25-Jan-13 07:03
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 277 Glorious 25-Jan-13 07:32
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 246 wordsmyth 25-Jan-13 08:09
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 238 cladking 25-Jan-13 16:32
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 255 Susan Doris 23-Jan-13 06:54
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 283 Glorious 23-Jan-13 07:43
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 315 Aine 23-Jan-13 14:47
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 296 BobbyH 22-Jan-13 19:21
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 300 Aine 22-Jan-13 19:41
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 283 BobbyH 22-Jan-13 19:56
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 317 Aine 22-Jan-13 19:59
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 350 Aine 22-Jan-13 20:09
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 311 Glorious 22-Jan-13 20:52
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 282 BobbyH 22-Jan-13 14:57
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 272 Workjay 22-Jan-13 15:08
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 278 BobbyH 22-Jan-13 15:41
Episode: "Destination Orion" was very well done 280 David L 17-Jan-13 17:35
Re: Episode: "Destination Orion" was very well done 269 Thomas Brophy 03-Mar-13 23:30
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 166 wordsmyth 23-Jan-13 08:10
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 313 Archae Solenhofen 25-Jan-13 03:28
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 301 wordsmyth 25-Jan-13 06:32
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 383 Thanos5150 25-Jan-13 18:22
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 278 Sangreal Sea 25-Jan-13 19:11
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 289 Warwick 11-Feb-13 22:32
The latest episode "Alien Abductions" is the most absurd yet 253 David L 23-Feb-13 23:41
Re: The latest episode "Alien Abductions" is the most absurd yet 271 Anomalies 25-Feb-13 19:00
Re: The latest episode "Alien Abductions" is the most absurd yet 194 David L 26-Feb-13 01:44
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 188 LanceHall 23-Mar-13 00:28


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