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Archae Solenhofen wrote:

> So what is so advanced here.... other than the use of a drag
> saw connected to a pendulum and the ability to work rock by
> traditional methods with skill?

There is no evidence of Moores copper pendulum drag saw or the holes he envisions must have accompanied them and none of the pictures I have shown except for possibly the one lone cut, though unlikely, have anything to do with a drag saw. The bottom picture is clear evidence of a circular saw and there are other examples of circular blade cuts at Abu Roash among others. Egyptologist John Romer says this magic copper drag saw must have had a blade at least 13ft long. It took Stocks 14hrs to cut a depth of 1.2" in Aswan granite using copper saws which means it would take 4 months working 8hrs a day 7 days a week to cut just one 3' x 3' x 3' granite block. He got less then 1"/hr with a copper bow drill on granite but estimates the awesome Egyptians could have gotten as much as a whopping 4-5"/hr. Lehner estimates the Egyptians would have needed hundreds of thousands if not millions of copper chisels requiring "unimaginable" amounts of wood to continuously reshape them and now we are to add hundreds if not thousands of 13ft copper saws to this total? And what about these copper tubular drills that like the pendulum saw no one can find? Hundreds? Thousands? Was there even enough copper in Egypt for one, or wood for that matter, but regardless there would have needed to have been several smelting/manufacturing plants running constantly as well as hundreds if not not thousands of portable smelting stations to reshape the chisels at the work site all of which are no where to be found either.

And why is it the carpentry tool kit is present since pre-dynastic times in relative abundance either physically or pictorially, and yet this same tool kit Egyptologists modify to try and impose on stone working is nowhere to be found? Or how about the imaginary lapidary slabbing saws you have invented for the AE though by your own article they didn't appear in China until 1900-1600BC and used a coiled bronze wire blade? No evidence of those either or Stocks bow drill. The problem is not just that the imaginary tool kit alternative proponents suggest can't be found, its the imaginary tool kit the orthodox have invented for them that is missing as well. Not to mention the copper and wood industry required to make and maintain them.

Sorry to disappoint you, but I am not a proponent of ancient aliens or electric power tools to explain the machining though it is obvious there is more going on here than just copper chisels, bow saws, and sticks and string. At the very least, for a start, they must have used the wheel for various purposes in the construction process and had access to a sufficient amount of bronze tools. Apparently Peitrie agrees "[their tools]... comprised bronze saws over eight feet long, set with jewels, tubular drills similarly set with jewels, and circular saws. " Maybe not jewels, but how about pounded quartz?

The AE, at the least, had extensive trade contact with Mesopotamians prior to Dynastic times and through the OK whom already had the wheel and used bronze tools for a more than 1000yrs before Khufu's time and yet the Egyptians remained magically oblivious to it despite the fact they too had wheels in one form or another as well as bronze artifacts? The Mesopotamians also widely used oxen as beasts of burden well before and during this time as did the Egyptians yet they didn't bother using them when it came to pyramid building? It is impossible they remained willfully ignorant of these technologies and highly likely their introduction in pre-dynastic times by Mesopotamians was a key factor in the explosion of Egyptian stone working in the first place. If all the other higher tools are missing it shouldn't be much of a stretch that these would be absent as well especially the bronze tools which no doubt were costly and highly prized property of the state kept in government stores and one of the first things to be plundered and recycled.

If we add the wheel, beasts of burden, and substitute copper tools for bronze there is much less need to keep pounding a square peg into a round hole as Egyptologists keep doing insisting they must have only used the simplest of copper tools. How many copper chisels does one bronze chisel replace? 10? 100? 1000? How many men are replaced by a gang of oxen? Back breaking pounders that chip inches a day or tripod percussion drills that do 10 times the work with a fraction of the effort? If we accept the obvious, countless thousands of man hours and tons of imaginary wood instantly disappear making an implausible situation, which even then does not account for everything, at least a lot more palatable. No ancient aliens required, just common sense and the acceptance they were not as primitive as you wish them to be. The wheel, bronze, and beasts of burden are still not enough in my opinion, but at least it gets a credible conversation started because any less of a baseline than that is absurd. Just nonsense.



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Re: How many swings would it take 309 Susan Doris 20-Feb-13 17:31
Re: How many swings would it take 349 cladking 20-Feb-13 21:24
If you have the time... 316 Ratcho 22-Feb-13 22:48
Re: How many swings would it take 364 Archae Solenhofen 20-Feb-13 18:14
Re: How many swings would it take 293 cladking 20-Feb-13 21:30
Re: How many swings would it take 378 wordsmyth 21-Feb-13 08:39
Re: How many swings would it take 388 Scott Creighton 21-Feb-13 08:45
Re: How many swings would it take 317 Archae Solenhofen 21-Feb-13 17:32
Re: How many swings would it take 341 Scott Creighton 21-Feb-13 18:04
Re: How many swings would it take 304 Archae Solenhofen 21-Feb-13 19:55
Re: How many swings would it take 323 Scott Creighton 21-Feb-13 21:40
I'd still like to know 321 Ratcho 21-Feb-13 22:02
Re: I'd still like to know 352 Archae Solenhofen 21-Feb-13 22:43
Re: I'd still like to know 309 wordsmyth 21-Feb-13 23:47
Re: I'd still like to know 313 wordsmyth 22-Feb-13 00:10
Re: I'd still like to know 341 Archae Solenhofen 22-Feb-13 00:11
Re: Unfortunately, I'd still don't care... 332 wordsmyth 22-Feb-13 00:31
Re: Unfortunately, I'd still don't care... 354 Archae Solenhofen 22-Feb-13 00:47
Re: Unfortunately, I'd still don't care... 329 wordsmyth 22-Feb-13 07:47
Re: Unfortunately, I'd still don't care... 331 Archae Solenhofen 22-Feb-13 16:42
Re: How many swings would it take 374 wordsmyth 22-Feb-13 00:20
Re: How many swings would it take 273 Susan Doris 21-Feb-13 13:44
Re: How many swings would it take 284 Archae Solenhofen 21-Feb-13 16:09
Re: How many swings would it take 323 Scott Creighton 21-Feb-13 18:59
Re: How many swings would it take 344 Archae Solenhofen 21-Feb-13 20:06
Re: How many swings would it take 327 Scott Creighton 21-Feb-13 21:43
Re: How many swings would it take 337 Archae Solenhofen 21-Feb-13 22:22
Re: How many swings would it take 323 Scott Creighton 21-Feb-13 22:30
Re: How many swings would it take 318 Archae Solenhofen 21-Feb-13 22:48
Re: How many swings would it take 338 Morten 22-Feb-13 10:52
Re: How many swings would it take 327 wordsmyth 22-Feb-13 23:30
Re: How many swings would it take 446 Scott Creighton 21-Feb-13 22:55
Mod Note > Off Topic Sub-Thread 214 Dr. Troglodyte 22-Feb-13 00:01
Re: How many swings would it take 332 richarddullum 22-Feb-13 03:20
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 282 Audrey 13-Feb-13 23:21
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 342 Susan Doris 14-Feb-13 14:59
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 295 cladking 14-Feb-13 16:07
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 353 Archae Solenhofen 14-Feb-13 15:29
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 345 cladking 14-Feb-13 16:14
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 370 Archae Solenhofen 14-Feb-13 16:41
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 318 cladking 14-Feb-13 18:57
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 338 Thanos5150 20-Jan-13 19:04
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 270 Workjay 21-Jan-13 02:42
Re: Myth and Truth 328 Thunderbird 20-Jan-13 17:33
Re: Myth and Truth 345 wordsmyth 20-Jan-13 18:34
Re: Myth and Truth 358 cladking 20-Jan-13 22:30
Re: Myth and Truth 385 Glorious 20-Jan-13 23:31
Re: Myth and Truth 345 cladking 21-Jan-13 00:26
Re: Perception 458 Thunderbird 21-Jan-13 04:15
Re: Perception 356 Glorious 21-Jan-13 05:34
Re: Perception 299 Chris Jordan 21-Jan-13 07:45
Re: Perception 341 loveritas 21-Jan-13 11:32
Re: Change of Perception 364 Chris Jordan 21-Jan-13 16:20
Re: words/music /NT 274 Thunderbird 21-Jan-13 04:45
Re: words/music /NT 344 wordsmyth 23-Jan-13 08:14
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 350 Anomalies 21-Jan-13 16:53
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 325 Workjay 21-Jan-13 17:59
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 330 Anomalies 21-Jan-13 18:13
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 382 Susan Doris 28-Jan-13 16:29
Who knew? 352 cladking 28-Jan-13 22:07
Re: Who knew? 466 Susan Doris 01-Feb-13 18:25
Re: Who knew? 336 cladking 01-Feb-13 20:42
Egyptology Debunked; they wouldn't know a snake if it bit them. 366 cladking 28-Jan-13 21:04
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 309 cladking 21-Jan-13 18:16
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 320 Anomalies 22-Jan-13 15:09
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 269 cladking 22-Jan-13 15:39
'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 335 Anomalies 22-Jan-13 15:54
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 353 Workjay 22-Jan-13 16:10
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 243 Anomalies 22-Jan-13 16:32
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 292 Workjay 22-Jan-13 21:06
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 363 Anomalies 23-Jan-13 14:53
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 329 Workjay 23-Jan-13 21:10
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 335 Anomalies 23-Jan-13 21:51
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 323 Workjay 23-Jan-13 22:58
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 290 richarddullum 24-Jan-13 02:21
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 293 Workjay 24-Jan-13 02:46
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 255 richarddullum 24-Jan-13 14:33
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 344 Aine 24-Jan-13 13:00
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 325 richarddullum 25-Jan-13 01:57
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 295 Susan Doris 27-Jan-13 13:02
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 358 Susan Doris 02-Feb-13 14:01
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 323 Anomalies 05-Feb-13 15:41
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 308 Workjay 05-Feb-13 17:39
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 339 Anomalies 05-Feb-13 21:25
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 340 Workjay 06-Feb-13 17:31
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 332 Ratcho 06-Feb-13 19:02
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 307 Anomalies 06-Feb-13 21:54
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 293 Workjay 06-Feb-13 22:19
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 224 cladking 22-Jan-13 16:29
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 217 Anomalies 21-Jan-13 16:07
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 225 Workjay 21-Jan-13 16:13
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 198 carolb 21-Jan-13 17:52
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 210 Anomalies 21-Jan-13 18:00
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 217 carolb 21-Jan-13 18:05
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 215 Anomalies 21-Jan-13 19:01
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 233 carolb 21-Jan-13 19:07
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 221 Anomalies 21-Jan-13 19:21
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 240 carolb 21-Jan-13 19:42
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 208 Anomalies 21-Jan-13 19:58
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 222 carolb 21-Jan-13 20:17
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 203 Anomalies 21-Jan-13 20:27
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 226 Susan Doris 14-Feb-13 14:42
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 208 Anomalies 22-Jan-13 14:50
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 188 wordsmyth 23-Jan-13 08:35
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 225 Workjay 22-Jan-13 02:20
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 227 richarddullum 22-Jan-13 14:31
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 256 Aine 22-Jan-13 14:49
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 228 Anomalies 22-Jan-13 14:56
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 270 Aine 22-Jan-13 15:29
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 277 Aine 22-Jan-13 15:47
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 208 Anomalies 22-Jan-13 16:08
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 291 Aine 22-Jan-13 16:23
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 278 Aine 22-Jan-13 16:24
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 267 richarddullum 23-Jan-13 04:50
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 225 wordsmyth 23-Jan-13 08:52
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 218 richarddullum 23-Jan-13 14:28
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 252 wordsmyth 23-Jan-13 15:19
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 284 Aine 23-Jan-13 15:42
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 209 richarddullum 24-Jan-13 02:03
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 260 Aine 23-Jan-13 14:39
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 250 wordsmyth 23-Jan-13 15:09
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 283 Aine 24-Jan-13 13:19
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 232 wordsmyth 25-Jan-13 05:08
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 232 Glorious 25-Jan-13 05:49
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 288 Susan Doris 25-Jan-13 06:47
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 204 wordsmyth 25-Jan-13 07:03
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 228 Glorious 25-Jan-13 07:32
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 205 wordsmyth 25-Jan-13 08:09
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 188 cladking 25-Jan-13 16:32
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 226 Susan Doris 23-Jan-13 06:54
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 235 Glorious 23-Jan-13 07:43
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 281 Aine 23-Jan-13 14:47
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 243 BobbyH 22-Jan-13 19:21
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 258 Aine 22-Jan-13 19:41
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 225 BobbyH 22-Jan-13 19:56
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 266 Aine 22-Jan-13 19:59
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 284 Aine 22-Jan-13 20:09
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 256 Glorious 22-Jan-13 20:52
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 224 BobbyH 22-Jan-13 14:57
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 222 Workjay 22-Jan-13 15:08
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 233 BobbyH 22-Jan-13 15:41
Episode: "Destination Orion" was very well done 217 David L 17-Jan-13 17:35
Re: Episode: "Destination Orion" was very well done 203 Thomas Brophy 03-Mar-13 23:30
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 139 wordsmyth 23-Jan-13 08:10
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 255 Archae Solenhofen 25-Jan-13 03:28
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 249 wordsmyth 25-Jan-13 06:32
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 306 Thanos5150 25-Jan-13 18:22
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 234 Sangreal Sea 25-Jan-13 19:11
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 233 Warwick 11-Feb-13 22:32
The latest episode "Alien Abductions" is the most absurd yet 210 David L 23-Feb-13 23:41
Re: The latest episode "Alien Abductions" is the most absurd yet 211 Anomalies 25-Feb-13 19:00
Re: The latest episode "Alien Abductions" is the most absurd yet 164 David L 26-Feb-13 01:44
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 144 LanceHall 23-Mar-13 00:28


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