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It is more then just clear in Threaded View (irrespective of the fact that you posted one of those previous reply's out of the subthread's sequence) that Cladking's post was in the same subthread as your "millions of 2.5 ton blocks with tolerances of .010 inch" nonsense and he was responding to a message of yours that contained a mentioning of it by myself. How is that sneaking it in other then in your imagination?

As I said before, whenever you forget what we're talking about, just scroll up and refresh your memory. And again, anyone can read the thread above and see where I requested a better photo from you and where you ignored that request and didn't provide one. (And then bizarrely, you started arguing with cladking about things I said.)

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BTW, how about also posting your messages properly.... because just like before this most recent post of yours appears out of order at the very bottom of this thread with now over 190 messages, and again completely out of sequence from where it actually should be.

Just for future reference, but any advice you offer me will be disregarded and ignored. FYI, I guess...

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Certainly they won't all be....... just like we see glacial striation on hardrocks like granite from over 15,000 years ago

What? Because your magic crystal ball told you so?

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(BTW, these were not scratch with diamonds by aliens

What is that? Seventeen times now you've brought up your favorite hobby-horse that no one else is talking about but you? Seriously, don't you feel remotely embarrassed at how poorly you have been representing your fellow Egyptologists around here with this kind of incessant, insane nonsense?

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Not as funny as the laughs from the lack of evidence for advanced rabbit and reindeer farms......... no wonder they went cannibalistic in their fall from grace.

In case you are blissfully unaware, but the domestication of plants and animals is a scientific feat yet to be equaled among modern scientists. Which also means it's evidence for a technologically-advanced civilization in our distant past. Sorry, "Archae"...

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Do you even know what obsidian is...... you do understand that this natural glass remains behind for more than just a few "hundreds of years" in the archeological record... right?

So [expletive deleted] what? Do you actually have a point here?

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Ya, there is more than a lot of ancient unadvanced ceramics around......... so much for being advanced.

Guess what? Modern technology today exists alongside primitive technology from cultures who still live hunter-gatherer lifestyles in the many places outside Western civilization. I mean, HELLO!?!

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So now these advanced ones used just "modern day... steel".... just how advanced was this Co-Magmen civilization anyway?

My apologies, but I've never heard of this "Co-Magmen" civilization before. But please feel free to tell me all about them though...

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BTW, how long do you imagine the statue "The Thinker" will be around if today's people were to just magically disappear too? It's just made of bronze.

I really don't care how long it takes to corrode. But as I told you before, try and stay focused here. Thanks.

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Ya, and 33,000 years of erosion still leaves ancient mines behind to be found........ so much for your above assertion about advanced Co-Magmen mines from 3 times more recent times all conveniently disappearing.

Hmmm, there it is again. That enigmatic "Co-Magmen" people you keep talking about... Seriously, how old are you again? Because I really do have a strict personal policy against getting into serious and/or lengthy debates with teenage boys, specifically ones who think they know everything at their age.

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Because dividing something by 2 times a previous time interval does not equal zero (thus the above 33,000 year old mine)...... unless that something was zero to begin with. All you have is stone blocks and nothing else but a bunch of fringe authors making gross exaggeration/insinuations about them.

There isn't enough data to make that (erroneous) assumption. You'd have to know not only what we've dug up that's survived in the fossil record, but also what's survived but hasn't been discovered yet, as well as the total number of technological artifacts which existed but weren't preserved in the fossil record.

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Garbage dumps

That presupposes the individuals who built G1, G2, and G3 didn't recycle their garbage.

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construction debris

Why would that get buried?

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etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc

You're so transparent it isn't even funny.

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they did not even leave any
Co-Magman droppings around either. Apparently they wiped that all up too.

Seriously?!? I mean, other than the intellectual droppings you've electronically preserved in the internet record, is any of your personal fecal matter currently preserved in the fossil record? If so, how did it get buried underground and what measures did you have to take to prevent the soil from naturally breaking it down? And finally, why exactly were you doing this bizarre, coprophilic experiment in the first place?

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Other then for a start:

"millions of 2.5 ton blocks with tolerances of .010 inch"

and

"core masonry is level on the tops and bottoms of the stone blocks to 0.01 inch"

Not that photo.

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Both are complete nonsenses.......

It's singular. FYI, I guess.

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What specifically can't "no one" evaluate? Did you not actually look closely at the photo above...... it is pretty obvious that the surface is significantly eroded like Emery (1960) states.

Do you need me to spell it out for you? LINKS!?!

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Remember this:

"Here is a(nother) perfect example of your dishonest and misleading strategies designed to take something completely out of context and make it seem like it's something that it's not. For starters, those are *exposed* core blocks. And do you know how they got exposed? By earthquakes. The same earthquakes which dislodged the white limestone facing stones. Hence, those visible gaps were NOT there originally. Not to mention, as any engineer will tell you, if those gaps actually were there at that level, those tolerance errors would have multiplied as blocks were placed further up the pyramid. Hence, it wouldn't have been able to be constructed with that kind of sloppy engineering. Something which is obviously not the case."

Ya, talk about "dishonest and misleading strategies".

Why? Because most of your photos were merely evidence for earthquake damage which removed the limestone facing stones? Not to mention the fact that you couldn't even figure out that your best bet was to provide some photos from Upuaut-2 which actually show un-eroded, un-damaged core masonry? Seriously, it's pretty sad when I actually have to help make your argument for you, don't you think?

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You are not the only one making that "0.01 inch" claim...... it's been around a long time.

It's not a "claim", it's a fact. However, I mistakenly stated that all the stones in the pyramid met this tolerance level, as opposed to just some of them.

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Oh so now when you originally said "millions of 2.5 ton blocks" you actually meant the more than just considerably less volumed "internal masonry" made of Tura limestone (the more expensive stuff that is only there because it can be finely dressed). Ya talk about "changing your tune", from one post to the next, it's like listening to an MP3 player on six-second-shuffle.

Certainly you haven't had your twentieth birthday yet, correct?

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He is talking about Tura casing..... that is not the core masonry made of Giza limestone.

I know. Did I say otherwise in that post?

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Ya..... really advanced for aliens and civilized cavemen, maybe they were just trying to fool us into thinking they were 4th dynasty Egyptians!

Sorry, but none of those photos change anything. Not to mention, one still cannot tell what kind of saw left that saw-mark. But regardless, I'm curious to know why did the Egyptians all of the sudden stop decorating the insides of their monuments with hieroglyphs during the 4th dynasty then (as evidenced by G1, G2, and G3)? And why did they all of the sudden lose the ability to make such massive and advanced monuments in future dynasties? Care to explain that to everyone, "Archae"? Did it have something to do with the enigmatic and mysterious "Co-Magmen" people?

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"several tens of thousands of which were placed with tolerances of .010 inch."

There are only few casing stones left on the Great Pyramid......

So? There were approximately 144,000 to begin with. Or do you think the missing casing stones had different tolerances than the surviving ones for some weird reason?

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It is also pretty clear from some of those photos above that there ----> might <---- be a lot of potential blocks considerably less than a ton in that "millions of 2.5 ton blocks". Maybe you should do some more imagining to get a better estimate..... or better yet actually make an effort to go and learn something that is actually real about the GP.

Thanks for even more unintentional humor. Much appreciated.

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It's not a "minor error" it was another example of "grossly exaggerated" fringe nonsenses, and one might expect if it was not stopped here and now it would still be out there being spread with deliberate glee.

Sorry "Archae", but nonsense is singular. As for the rest, I'm not going to dignify that absurdity with a response. No offense, of course...

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According to the "Ancient Aliens Debunked" transcripts diamonds are discussed in the section on Pumapunku and Pyramids...... so let me get this straight...... the "Ancient Aliens" videos are off topic and anything in the "Ancient Aliens Debunked" video that you have either not watched and/or don't want to discuss are all "off-topic" too.... anything else?

Eighteen times now? Seriously, you love beating that dead (hobby) horse don't you??? Because as I said before, nobody made that claim in the video, no matter how hard you want to pretend someone did... But regardless, that's not the issue here, especially since you still have this statement to deal with:

"The crux of the matter is a basic understanding of engineering and mathematics, specifically the ability to quarry, transport, and place millions of 2.5 ton blocks, placing a stone every 5 minutes, day and night, for 20 years, several tens of thousands of which were placed with tolerances of .010 inch."

And if you continue to ignore the above, then I'll have to ignore any/all further diversions/obfuscations on your part. Because this never-ending schtick of yours is getting pretty stale already...



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Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 338 Archae Solenhofen 20-Feb-13 03:54
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 356 Bobajot 20-Feb-13 13:35
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 368 Archae Solenhofen 20-Feb-13 18:01
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 351 Bobajot 20-Feb-13 23:29
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 364 Archae Solenhofen 21-Feb-13 16:17
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 367 Bobajot 22-Feb-13 23:08
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 348 Archae Solenhofen 22-Feb-13 23:55
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 347 wordsmyth 23-Feb-13 00:24
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 354 cladking 23-Feb-13 00:41
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 324 wordsmyth 23-Feb-13 05:10
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 320 cladking 23-Feb-13 05:40
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 368 Bobajot 23-Feb-13 01:04
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 357 Archae Solenhofen 23-Feb-13 04:49
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 398 Bobajot 23-Feb-13 12:31
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 378 Archae Solenhofen 23-Feb-13 20:25
Science Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 371 cladking 23-Feb-13 21:29
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 363 Bobajot 24-Feb-13 02:34
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 365 Archae Solenhofen 25-Feb-13 20:21
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 368 Bobajot 26-Feb-13 03:01
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 307 wordsmyth 23-Feb-13 21:21
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 340 Thanos5150 23-Feb-13 21:32
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 308 Thanos5150 23-Feb-13 22:10
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 348 wordsmyth 23-Feb-13 22:18
We would probably be amazed 283 Ratcho 24-Feb-13 00:52
Re: We would probably be amazed 274 wordsmyth 24-Feb-13 03:48
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 355 Archae Solenhofen 24-Feb-13 01:50
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 356 wordsmyth 24-Feb-13 02:44
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 336 wordsmyth 23-Feb-13 05:18
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 321 Archae Solenhofen 23-Feb-13 04:41
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 280 Archae Solenhofen 20-Feb-13 02:11
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 365 cladking 20-Feb-13 04:08
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 399 Thanos5150 22-Feb-13 05:31
I've tried hardened steel chisels 344 Ratcho 22-Feb-13 06:15
Re: I've tried hardened steel chisels 317 Susan Doris 22-Feb-13 07:15
Re: I've tried hardened steel chisels 372 Ratcho 22-Feb-13 17:51
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 360 Archae Solenhofen 23-Feb-13 05:15
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 360 cladking 23-Feb-13 15:13
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 206 Thanos5150 23-Feb-13 20:57
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 490 Archae Solenhofen 25-Feb-13 20:14
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 353 Susan Doris 24-Feb-13 15:49
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 365 wordsmyth 24-Feb-13 22:30
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 384 wordsmyth 20-Feb-13 02:22
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 370 Archae Solenhofen 20-Feb-13 03:47
How many swings would it take 382 Ratcho 20-Feb-13 06:29
Re: How many swings would it take 319 Susan Doris 20-Feb-13 17:31
Re: How many swings would it take 373 cladking 20-Feb-13 21:24
If you have the time... 330 Ratcho 22-Feb-13 22:48
Re: How many swings would it take 383 Archae Solenhofen 20-Feb-13 18:14
Re: How many swings would it take 303 cladking 20-Feb-13 21:30
Re: How many swings would it take 391 wordsmyth 21-Feb-13 08:39
Re: How many swings would it take 402 Scott Creighton 21-Feb-13 08:45
Re: How many swings would it take 329 Archae Solenhofen 21-Feb-13 17:32
Re: How many swings would it take 356 Scott Creighton 21-Feb-13 18:04
Re: How many swings would it take 318 Archae Solenhofen 21-Feb-13 19:55
Re: How many swings would it take 337 Scott Creighton 21-Feb-13 21:40
I'd still like to know 335 Ratcho 21-Feb-13 22:02
Re: I'd still like to know 366 Archae Solenhofen 21-Feb-13 22:43
Re: I'd still like to know 325 wordsmyth 21-Feb-13 23:47
Re: I'd still like to know 320 wordsmyth 22-Feb-13 00:10
Re: I'd still like to know 356 Archae Solenhofen 22-Feb-13 00:11
Re: Unfortunately, I'd still don't care... 346 wordsmyth 22-Feb-13 00:31
Re: Unfortunately, I'd still don't care... 363 Archae Solenhofen 22-Feb-13 00:47
Re: Unfortunately, I'd still don't care... 342 wordsmyth 22-Feb-13 07:47
Re: Unfortunately, I'd still don't care... 344 Archae Solenhofen 22-Feb-13 16:42
Re: How many swings would it take 386 wordsmyth 22-Feb-13 00:20
Re: How many swings would it take 284 Susan Doris 21-Feb-13 13:44
Re: How many swings would it take 293 Archae Solenhofen 21-Feb-13 16:09
Re: How many swings would it take 343 Scott Creighton 21-Feb-13 18:59
Re: How many swings would it take 355 Archae Solenhofen 21-Feb-13 20:06
Re: How many swings would it take 340 Scott Creighton 21-Feb-13 21:43
Re: How many swings would it take 349 Archae Solenhofen 21-Feb-13 22:22
Re: How many swings would it take 340 Scott Creighton 21-Feb-13 22:30
Re: How many swings would it take 337 Archae Solenhofen 21-Feb-13 22:48
Re: How many swings would it take 353 Morten 22-Feb-13 10:52
Re: How many swings would it take 340 wordsmyth 22-Feb-13 23:30
Re: How many swings would it take 460 Scott Creighton 21-Feb-13 22:55
Mod Note > Off Topic Sub-Thread 225 Dr. Troglodyte 22-Feb-13 00:01
Re: How many swings would it take 356 richarddullum 22-Feb-13 03:20
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 294 Audrey 13-Feb-13 23:21
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 357 Susan Doris 14-Feb-13 14:59
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 309 cladking 14-Feb-13 16:07
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 367 Archae Solenhofen 14-Feb-13 15:29
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 356 cladking 14-Feb-13 16:14
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 382 Archae Solenhofen 14-Feb-13 16:41
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 330 cladking 14-Feb-13 18:57
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 350 Thanos5150 20-Jan-13 19:04
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 283 Workjay 21-Jan-13 02:42
Re: Myth and Truth 352 Thunderbird 20-Jan-13 17:33
Re: Myth and Truth 359 wordsmyth 20-Jan-13 18:34
Re: Myth and Truth 368 cladking 20-Jan-13 22:30
Re: Myth and Truth 403 Glorious 20-Jan-13 23:31
Re: Myth and Truth 367 cladking 21-Jan-13 00:26
Re: Perception 475 Thunderbird 21-Jan-13 04:15
Re: Perception 372 Glorious 21-Jan-13 05:34
Re: Perception 314 Chris Jordan 21-Jan-13 07:45
Re: Perception 355 loveritas 21-Jan-13 11:32
Re: Change of Perception 381 Chris Jordan 21-Jan-13 16:20
Re: words/music /NT 286 Thunderbird 21-Jan-13 04:45
Re: words/music /NT 361 wordsmyth 23-Jan-13 08:14
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 361 Anomalies 21-Jan-13 16:53
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 348 Workjay 21-Jan-13 17:59
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 344 Anomalies 21-Jan-13 18:13
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 399 Susan Doris 28-Jan-13 16:29
Who knew? 366 cladking 28-Jan-13 22:07
Re: Who knew? 488 Susan Doris 01-Feb-13 18:25
Re: Who knew? 346 cladking 01-Feb-13 20:42
Egyptology Debunked; they wouldn't know a snake if it bit them. 401 cladking 28-Jan-13 21:04
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 334 cladking 21-Jan-13 18:16
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 334 Anomalies 22-Jan-13 15:09
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 282 cladking 22-Jan-13 15:39
'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 349 Anomalies 22-Jan-13 15:54
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 368 Workjay 22-Jan-13 16:10
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 260 Anomalies 22-Jan-13 16:32
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 317 Workjay 22-Jan-13 21:06
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 381 Anomalies 23-Jan-13 14:53
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 345 Workjay 23-Jan-13 21:10
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 348 Anomalies 23-Jan-13 21:51
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 337 Workjay 23-Jan-13 22:58
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 304 richarddullum 24-Jan-13 02:21
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 331 Workjay 24-Jan-13 02:46
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 265 richarddullum 24-Jan-13 14:33
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 361 Aine 24-Jan-13 13:00
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 340 richarddullum 25-Jan-13 01:57
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 308 Susan Doris 27-Jan-13 13:02
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 369 Susan Doris 02-Feb-13 14:01
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 337 Anomalies 05-Feb-13 15:41
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 324 Workjay 05-Feb-13 17:39
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 348 Anomalies 05-Feb-13 21:25
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 355 Workjay 06-Feb-13 17:31
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 346 Ratcho 06-Feb-13 19:02
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 319 Anomalies 06-Feb-13 21:54
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 307 Workjay 06-Feb-13 22:19
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 236 cladking 22-Jan-13 16:29
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 239 Anomalies 21-Jan-13 16:07
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 242 Workjay 21-Jan-13 16:13
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 227 carolb 21-Jan-13 17:52
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 220 Anomalies 21-Jan-13 18:00
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 239 carolb 21-Jan-13 18:05
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 226 Anomalies 21-Jan-13 19:01
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 248 carolb 21-Jan-13 19:07
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 235 Anomalies 21-Jan-13 19:21
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 274 carolb 21-Jan-13 19:42
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 234 Anomalies 21-Jan-13 19:58
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 245 carolb 21-Jan-13 20:17
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 215 Anomalies 21-Jan-13 20:27
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 239 Susan Doris 14-Feb-13 14:42
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 228 Anomalies 22-Jan-13 14:50
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 200 wordsmyth 23-Jan-13 08:35
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 243 Workjay 22-Jan-13 02:20
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 241 richarddullum 22-Jan-13 14:31
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 278 Aine 22-Jan-13 14:49
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 246 Anomalies 22-Jan-13 14:56
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 289 Aine 22-Jan-13 15:29
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 302 Aine 22-Jan-13 15:47
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 221 Anomalies 22-Jan-13 16:08
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 314 Aine 22-Jan-13 16:23
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 293 Aine 22-Jan-13 16:24
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 278 richarddullum 23-Jan-13 04:50
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 238 wordsmyth 23-Jan-13 08:52
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 246 richarddullum 23-Jan-13 14:28
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 270 wordsmyth 23-Jan-13 15:19
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 306 Aine 23-Jan-13 15:42
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 237 richarddullum 24-Jan-13 02:03
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 270 Aine 23-Jan-13 14:39
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 266 wordsmyth 23-Jan-13 15:09
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 299 Aine 24-Jan-13 13:19
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 248 wordsmyth 25-Jan-13 05:08
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 245 Glorious 25-Jan-13 05:49
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 312 Susan Doris 25-Jan-13 06:47
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 231 wordsmyth 25-Jan-13 07:03
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 240 Glorious 25-Jan-13 07:32
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 218 wordsmyth 25-Jan-13 08:09
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 199 cladking 25-Jan-13 16:32
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 240 Susan Doris 23-Jan-13 06:54
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 251 Glorious 23-Jan-13 07:43
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 294 Aine 23-Jan-13 14:47
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 270 BobbyH 22-Jan-13 19:21
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 274 Aine 22-Jan-13 19:41
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 240 BobbyH 22-Jan-13 19:56
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 285 Aine 22-Jan-13 19:59
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 308 Aine 22-Jan-13 20:09
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 273 Glorious 22-Jan-13 20:52
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 242 BobbyH 22-Jan-13 14:57
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 238 Workjay 22-Jan-13 15:08
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 261 BobbyH 22-Jan-13 15:41
Episode: "Destination Orion" was very well done 244 David L 17-Jan-13 17:35
Re: Episode: "Destination Orion" was very well done 234 Thomas Brophy 03-Mar-13 23:30
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 149 wordsmyth 23-Jan-13 08:10
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 281 Archae Solenhofen 25-Jan-13 03:28
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 265 wordsmyth 25-Jan-13 06:32
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 332 Thanos5150 25-Jan-13 18:22
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 245 Sangreal Sea 25-Jan-13 19:11
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 248 Warwick 11-Feb-13 22:32
The latest episode "Alien Abductions" is the most absurd yet 222 David L 23-Feb-13 23:41
Re: The latest episode "Alien Abductions" is the most absurd yet 255 Anomalies 25-Feb-13 19:00
Re: The latest episode "Alien Abductions" is the most absurd yet 180 David L 26-Feb-13 01:44
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 173 LanceHall 23-Mar-13 00:28


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