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Ya, it's still in the subthread where this "millions of 2.5 ton blocks with tolerances of .010 inch" imagination popped up..... so there is no "sneak it" here.

Just scroll up, "Archae", anyone can see the post where you quoted something cladking said, but then replied to him about something I said. Here it is:

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cladking wrote:

>It is unlikely that the pyramid was built with advanced tools
>since there is no evidence for the development of such toiols
>and relatively sparse evidence for such tools coming in from
>distant planets.

Why is that.... it's been claimed to be wiped clean of all evidence of such other than the stone blocks, which are claimed to be advanced in part because of imaginary evidences like "millions of 2.5 ton blocks with tolerances of .010 inch"?

I mean, seriously, why would you just randomly start arguing with cladking about something no one else ever said, but me? Are you really THAT desperate here?

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It was only about 12 hours after your last post, so how did I know you were on a rather short vacation from the normal chattiness we’ve all grown so use to.

Guess what? I'm usually busy writing most of the day and therefore I don't always have extra time to waste with the likes of you. Not to mention, when I do have some free time, I'd much rather spend it discussing these kinds of topics with others who share similar world-views, rather than pointlessly arguing with you yet again.

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Got any examples of some advanced holes in the ground to go along with where they got all that "gold" or whatever from..... we got examples of where they were mining their chert from 30,000 years ago (Vermeersch 1984) so where are they getting their advanced rock cutting materials (and the processing plants that produced them)... a wild imaginarium?

Sorry, but thousands of years from now, nobody will be able to discern the level of technology used in modern day mining operations. It will simply be holes bored in rocks with thousands of years of erosion on top of it.

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"Solid stone or solid gold" are not the only things that long lived....... For heaven sake we still find Cro-Magnon coprolites around to see what they ate

Thanks for the laugh.

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so did they not have advance glasses, advanced ceramics, advanced stainless steels capable of surviving more than a few years during this leave no evidence behind episode of Mesolithic advancedyness.

The "unbreakable, reinforced glass" made today will still *eventually* weaken and break over hundreds of years. Ditto for ceramics. And modern day stainless, corrosion-resistant steel will *eventually* corrode after several centuries. Sorry.

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just how advanced were these lost ones (remember according from some on your side of the fence they can't carve all their rocks without something as hard as diamond (lots of it))?

What is that, sixteen times now you've brought up your favorite, pointless red herring that no one else is discussing but you? Please, have some dignity and stop embarrassing yourself even further here.

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Maybe you should watch those "After People" videos, they were on the same channel as the "Ancient Aliens" stuff..... both of those crowds are claiming/imaging advanced materials get left behind for thousands and thousands of years (and don't forget the young earth creationists, they imagine finding all sort of stuff all the time from before an imaginary globe wiping-megaflood).

Vermeersch, P.M., Paulissen, E., Gijselings, G., Otte, M., Thoma, A., Van Peer, P., Lauwers, R., Drappier, D. and Charlier, C. (1984) 33,000 year old chert mining site and related Homo in the Egyptian Nile valley. Nature, 309: 342-4.

(Yawn)... Irrelevant red herrings/strawmen. Sorry.

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How about all over the place in Egypt including Giza, unlike for these lost ones with absolutely nothing from before, during, or after? Oh, except the stone blocks…… and all the “gross exaggerations” that went along with them.

Dodge noted.

But anyway, since we only have only a tiny fraction of the building materials used to make all the other pyramids (and other monuments) of Egypt (excluding G1, G2, and G3), why should we expect to have some left behind from an epoch at least *twice* as old as the rest? Even further, why would those artifacts have been buried in the first place? Because for something to be preserved in the fossil record, it either has to be deliberately buried there (like corpses in cemeteries), or some cataclysmic event has to happen (like a volcano or mudslide) in which things get buried.

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Oh ok, so now it's just the "tops and bottoms'.... That's right, if first you don't succeed try try try.... and try again.... how do you manage to get that new, very much less so now, previously all encompassing "0.01" claim from something that looks like this on it’s measurable surfaces?

For a starter let's take a look at the outside core masonry:

[www.nla.gov.au]

Photo disproves nothing I said.

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If one reads Emery (1960) it is pretty clear the exposed core masonry is not that pristine.

Emery, K.O. (1960) Weathering of the Great Pyramid. Journal of Sedimentary Petrology, 30, 141-143.

Three whole pages of analysis from 1960, which no one can evaluate. Another fail on your part...

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Next lets have a look at some other holes in this GP claim of yours.

Vyse's hole:

[www.world-mysteries.com]
Image Source:[www.world-mysteries.com]
(Photograph by Jon Bodsworth [www.egyptarchive.co.uk])

Again, the photo disproves nothing I said.

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Notch on Great Pyramid's northeast edge:

outside
[www.archaeology.org]
image source [archive.archaeology.org]

The first photo *might* have disproved something, but it was too far away to be useful. On the other hand, the second actually does disprove what I said. A photo I requested from you when you started changing your tune, then ignored my request and starting arguing with cladking about things no one else ever said but me. And for confirmation, I looked at some Upuaut-2 photos on Google and could easily see where they used mortar between the core stones and internal masonry. And thus, I see now that cladking was right, less than 100,000 stones have those tolerances I referenced. So then it appears that I had mistakenly conflated two different accurate facts about the pyramid into one incorrect fact. My bad. Therefore, my previous statement that "the crux of the matter is a basic understanding of engineering and mathematics, specifically the ability to quarry, transport, and place millions of 2.5 ton blocks with tolerances of .010 inch, placing a stone every 5 minutes, day and night, for 20 years" should be revised to read:

"The crux of the matter is a basic understanding of engineering and mathematics, specifically the ability to quarry, transport, and place millions of 2.5 ton blocks, placing a stone every 5 minutes, day and night, for 20 years, several tens of thousands of which were placed with tolerances of .010 inch."

And although I know you like to take minor errors out of context and pretend that they disprove the entire assertion (you know, like your favorite hobby-horses), but unfortunately, they don't. Thus, you still have to try and disprove the rest of the points made in my original statement. (And again, I won't hold my breath. But best of luck, nonetheless!)

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Off topic, really! Did not Mr. Dunn make claims about only diamond could scratch some ancient rocks that were used and did not Mr. Bauval go on seemingly about 50-200 ton blocks not being able to be moved with a civilization that did not have the wheel and pulley in some of these "Ancient Aliens" videos (i.e. the one on Pumapunku and the one on Power Plants)?

Yes, they are off-topic. No one in this video makes those claims and no one else is discussing those things but you. Something you've been doing for years and years now. Rather bizarrely, I might add...



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Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 340 Archae Solenhofen 25-Feb-13 20:21
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 350 Bobajot 26-Feb-13 03:01
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 290 wordsmyth 23-Feb-13 21:21
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 324 Thanos5150 23-Feb-13 21:32
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 293 Thanos5150 23-Feb-13 22:10
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 333 wordsmyth 23-Feb-13 22:18
We would probably be amazed 263 Ratcho 24-Feb-13 00:52
Re: We would probably be amazed 259 wordsmyth 24-Feb-13 03:48
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 328 Archae Solenhofen 24-Feb-13 01:50
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 344 wordsmyth 24-Feb-13 02:44
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 323 wordsmyth 23-Feb-13 05:18
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 309 Archae Solenhofen 23-Feb-13 04:41
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 263 Archae Solenhofen 20-Feb-13 02:11
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 341 cladking 20-Feb-13 04:08
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 382 Thanos5150 22-Feb-13 05:31
I've tried hardened steel chisels 331 Ratcho 22-Feb-13 06:15
Re: I've tried hardened steel chisels 306 Susan Doris 22-Feb-13 07:15
Re: I've tried hardened steel chisels 345 Ratcho 22-Feb-13 17:51
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 346 Archae Solenhofen 23-Feb-13 05:15
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 334 cladking 23-Feb-13 15:13
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 188 Thanos5150 23-Feb-13 20:57
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 427 Archae Solenhofen 25-Feb-13 20:14
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 337 Susan Doris 24-Feb-13 15:49
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 347 wordsmyth 24-Feb-13 22:30
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 366 wordsmyth 20-Feb-13 02:22
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 352 Archae Solenhofen 20-Feb-13 03:47
How many swings would it take 365 Ratcho 20-Feb-13 06:29
Re: How many swings would it take 306 Susan Doris 20-Feb-13 17:31
Re: How many swings would it take 340 cladking 20-Feb-13 21:24
If you have the time... 312 Ratcho 22-Feb-13 22:48
Re: How many swings would it take 362 Archae Solenhofen 20-Feb-13 18:14
Re: How many swings would it take 290 cladking 20-Feb-13 21:30
Re: How many swings would it take 374 wordsmyth 21-Feb-13 08:39
Re: How many swings would it take 384 Scott Creighton 21-Feb-13 08:45
Re: How many swings would it take 314 Archae Solenhofen 21-Feb-13 17:32
Re: How many swings would it take 338 Scott Creighton 21-Feb-13 18:04
Re: How many swings would it take 303 Archae Solenhofen 21-Feb-13 19:55
Re: How many swings would it take 321 Scott Creighton 21-Feb-13 21:40
I'd still like to know 315 Ratcho 21-Feb-13 22:02
Re: I'd still like to know 347 Archae Solenhofen 21-Feb-13 22:43
Re: I'd still like to know 306 wordsmyth 21-Feb-13 23:47
Re: I'd still like to know 308 wordsmyth 22-Feb-13 00:10
Re: I'd still like to know 338 Archae Solenhofen 22-Feb-13 00:11
Re: Unfortunately, I'd still don't care... 326 wordsmyth 22-Feb-13 00:31
Re: Unfortunately, I'd still don't care... 350 Archae Solenhofen 22-Feb-13 00:47
Re: Unfortunately, I'd still don't care... 326 wordsmyth 22-Feb-13 07:47
Re: Unfortunately, I'd still don't care... 328 Archae Solenhofen 22-Feb-13 16:42
Re: How many swings would it take 371 wordsmyth 22-Feb-13 00:20
Re: How many swings would it take 270 Susan Doris 21-Feb-13 13:44
Re: How many swings would it take 279 Archae Solenhofen 21-Feb-13 16:09
Re: How many swings would it take 315 Scott Creighton 21-Feb-13 18:59
Re: How many swings would it take 341 Archae Solenhofen 21-Feb-13 20:06
Re: How many swings would it take 322 Scott Creighton 21-Feb-13 21:43
Re: How many swings would it take 335 Archae Solenhofen 21-Feb-13 22:22
Re: How many swings would it take 319 Scott Creighton 21-Feb-13 22:30
Re: How many swings would it take 313 Archae Solenhofen 21-Feb-13 22:48
Re: How many swings would it take 334 Morten 22-Feb-13 10:52
Re: How many swings would it take 320 wordsmyth 22-Feb-13 23:30
Re: How many swings would it take 441 Scott Creighton 21-Feb-13 22:55
Mod Note > Off Topic Sub-Thread 212 Dr. Troglodyte 22-Feb-13 00:01
Re: How many swings would it take 330 richarddullum 22-Feb-13 03:20
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 280 Audrey 13-Feb-13 23:21
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 338 Susan Doris 14-Feb-13 14:59
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 282 cladking 14-Feb-13 16:07
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 341 Archae Solenhofen 14-Feb-13 15:29
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 341 cladking 14-Feb-13 16:14
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 368 Archae Solenhofen 14-Feb-13 16:41
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 316 cladking 14-Feb-13 18:57
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 334 Thanos5150 20-Jan-13 19:04
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 268 Workjay 21-Jan-13 02:42
Re: Myth and Truth 321 Thunderbird 20-Jan-13 17:33
Re: Myth and Truth 340 wordsmyth 20-Jan-13 18:34
Re: Myth and Truth 354 cladking 20-Jan-13 22:30
Re: Myth and Truth 381 Glorious 20-Jan-13 23:31
Re: Myth and Truth 341 cladking 21-Jan-13 00:26
Re: Perception 454 Thunderbird 21-Jan-13 04:15
Re: Perception 353 Glorious 21-Jan-13 05:34
Re: Perception 296 Chris Jordan 21-Jan-13 07:45
Re: Perception 340 loveritas 21-Jan-13 11:32
Re: Change of Perception 361 Chris Jordan 21-Jan-13 16:20
Re: words/music /NT 269 Thunderbird 21-Jan-13 04:45
Re: words/music /NT 339 wordsmyth 23-Jan-13 08:14
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 349 Anomalies 21-Jan-13 16:53
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 322 Workjay 21-Jan-13 17:59
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 328 Anomalies 21-Jan-13 18:13
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 370 Susan Doris 28-Jan-13 16:29
Who knew? 349 cladking 28-Jan-13 22:07
Re: Who knew? 460 Susan Doris 01-Feb-13 18:25
Re: Who knew? 328 cladking 01-Feb-13 20:42
Egyptology Debunked; they wouldn't know a snake if it bit them. 362 cladking 28-Jan-13 21:04
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 298 cladking 21-Jan-13 18:16
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 318 Anomalies 22-Jan-13 15:09
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 264 cladking 22-Jan-13 15:39
'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 331 Anomalies 22-Jan-13 15:54
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 349 Workjay 22-Jan-13 16:10
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 240 Anomalies 22-Jan-13 16:32
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 289 Workjay 22-Jan-13 21:06
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 356 Anomalies 23-Jan-13 14:53
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 318 Workjay 23-Jan-13 21:10
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 327 Anomalies 23-Jan-13 21:51
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 321 Workjay 23-Jan-13 22:58
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 287 richarddullum 24-Jan-13 02:21
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 290 Workjay 24-Jan-13 02:46
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 249 richarddullum 24-Jan-13 14:33
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 339 Aine 24-Jan-13 13:00
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 319 richarddullum 25-Jan-13 01:57
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 290 Susan Doris 27-Jan-13 13:02
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 351 Susan Doris 02-Feb-13 14:01
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 321 Anomalies 05-Feb-13 15:41
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 304 Workjay 05-Feb-13 17:39
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 336 Anomalies 05-Feb-13 21:25
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 336 Workjay 06-Feb-13 17:31
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 324 Ratcho 06-Feb-13 19:02
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 295 Anomalies 06-Feb-13 21:54
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 291 Workjay 06-Feb-13 22:19
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 219 cladking 22-Jan-13 16:29
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 212 Anomalies 21-Jan-13 16:07
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 220 Workjay 21-Jan-13 16:13
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 197 carolb 21-Jan-13 17:52
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 205 Anomalies 21-Jan-13 18:00
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 201 carolb 21-Jan-13 18:05
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 211 Anomalies 21-Jan-13 19:01
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 223 carolb 21-Jan-13 19:07
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 210 Anomalies 21-Jan-13 19:21
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 232 carolb 21-Jan-13 19:42
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 202 Anomalies 21-Jan-13 19:58
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 217 carolb 21-Jan-13 20:17
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 200 Anomalies 21-Jan-13 20:27
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 222 Susan Doris 14-Feb-13 14:42
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 204 Anomalies 22-Jan-13 14:50
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 184 wordsmyth 23-Jan-13 08:35
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 221 Workjay 22-Jan-13 02:20
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 217 richarddullum 22-Jan-13 14:31
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 250 Aine 22-Jan-13 14:49
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 222 Anomalies 22-Jan-13 14:56
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 265 Aine 22-Jan-13 15:29
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 274 Aine 22-Jan-13 15:47
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 202 Anomalies 22-Jan-13 16:08
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 290 Aine 22-Jan-13 16:23
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 275 Aine 22-Jan-13 16:24
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 264 richarddullum 23-Jan-13 04:50
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 217 wordsmyth 23-Jan-13 08:52
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 216 richarddullum 23-Jan-13 14:28
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 250 wordsmyth 23-Jan-13 15:19
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 280 Aine 23-Jan-13 15:42
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 206 richarddullum 24-Jan-13 02:03
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 257 Aine 23-Jan-13 14:39
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 243 wordsmyth 23-Jan-13 15:09
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 280 Aine 24-Jan-13 13:19
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 229 wordsmyth 25-Jan-13 05:08
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 228 Glorious 25-Jan-13 05:49
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 276 Susan Doris 25-Jan-13 06:47
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 201 wordsmyth 25-Jan-13 07:03
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 218 Glorious 25-Jan-13 07:32
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 195 wordsmyth 25-Jan-13 08:09
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 185 cladking 25-Jan-13 16:32
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 218 Susan Doris 23-Jan-13 06:54
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 232 Glorious 23-Jan-13 07:43
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 279 Aine 23-Jan-13 14:47
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 234 BobbyH 22-Jan-13 19:21
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 256 Aine 22-Jan-13 19:41
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 220 BobbyH 22-Jan-13 19:56
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 264 Aine 22-Jan-13 19:59
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 275 Aine 22-Jan-13 20:09
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 250 Glorious 22-Jan-13 20:52
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 215 BobbyH 22-Jan-13 14:57
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 217 Workjay 22-Jan-13 15:08
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 230 BobbyH 22-Jan-13 15:41
Episode: "Destination Orion" was very well done 213 David L 17-Jan-13 17:35
Re: Episode: "Destination Orion" was very well done 196 Thomas Brophy 03-Mar-13 23:30
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 136 wordsmyth 23-Jan-13 08:10
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 251 Archae Solenhofen 25-Jan-13 03:28
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 245 wordsmyth 25-Jan-13 06:32
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 300 Thanos5150 25-Jan-13 18:22
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 229 Sangreal Sea 25-Jan-13 19:11
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 222 Warwick 11-Feb-13 22:32
The latest episode "Alien Abductions" is the most absurd yet 204 David L 23-Feb-13 23:41
Re: The latest episode "Alien Abductions" is the most absurd yet 208 Anomalies 25-Feb-13 19:00
Re: The latest episode "Alien Abductions" is the most absurd yet 160 David L 26-Feb-13 01:44
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 143 LanceHall 23-Mar-13 00:28


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