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How is it a "straw man" when numerous fringe authors are claming granite can only be scratched with diamond?

Because I'm not claiming it, nor is anyone in the video which I specifically wanted to debate about. On the other hand, you incessantly bring it up, on five different occasions already in this brief exchange, six including the above, and then you proceed to refute it. This behavior being the very definition of a strawman, a false argument created to misrepresent an opponent's position. FYI, I guess...

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This false notion in its various forms is a key aspect of spreading advanced technology claims through many fringe media of this sort.

Hilarious! I mean, seriously, if you think that's one of the "key aspects" to the ancient advanced-technology theory, well, then I feel embarrassed for you because after ten years, I would think you had a better grasp on your opponent's position than THAT...

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What technology was that.... specific examples of such

Did you forget what we were talking about? I was generally referring to your useless examples of "simple technology". More specifically, I was referring to your wonderful home-made drill made from a popsicle stick, rubber band, and kitty litter.

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(BTW that is not the stone products claimed to be made by such, but the actual technology that produced them)? I suggest finding it somewhere in Nicholson & Shaw (2000). Good luck in that because it is pretty clear it's not there.

That's wonderful. Unfortunately, I don't care. But anyway, nice try suggesting what my argument should be and where I should go to find out your suggested argument is wrong.

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Maybe you think you can get away with claiming these lost ones were extremely tidy, but I doubt it.

So then, you are unaware of the fact that the only materials that don't corrode, degrade, and/or decompose within about 500 years are solid stone and solid gold? Not to mention, the older a civilization is, the less there is artifact-wise, mainly because the archaeological record preserves only a very small fraction of objects that somehow manage to get buried in the first place. Just to name a few of the more obvious reasons...

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I belive I have asked Mr. Dunn if his spiraling scratch is visible on the image below and I also asked him to mark its location on such so we can all see what he was measuring and I am still waiting (it will be10 years on the 26th of January).

Did he have to file a restraining order against you then?

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As pointed out by Mr. Dunn, and should be quite clear from the photo below, some of Petrie's observation about such are not consistent with reality.

To an expert, much less a layman, nothing is "clear" from that photo. Sorry.

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Does he also believe that granite can only be scratched with diamond?

Seven times now.

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The bow-drill experiments of Stocks (1993, 2003) cut granite into a tapered core, it rough polished the sides, and it produced striations on the surface.

Let's see a video then. Like I specifically requested.

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So all the fringe have is the megaliths and little to nothing else other than gross exaggeration about such, like clams of 100s of 200+ ton blocks and 2.5 million blocks with 0.01 tolerances?

I think you are forgetting about the team of Japanese engineers who scientifically proved that they could not build a 1/10 scale replica of the Great Pyramid (a measly 48 feet tall) neither with ancient technology nor modern technology. Among other things...

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Don't tell me ..... go tell the fringe authors claiming granite can only be scratched with diamond.

Eight times now.

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Did not Mr. Stocks do experiments using known/deduced ancient Egyptian technology?

Did you provide a video of these experiments, as requested? Because what is claimed to be possible on paper with most Egyptologists ignorant of basic engineering is usually harder to prove in reality.

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Ya, that's right, fringe authors insinuate that granite is equal to the hardest substance known, state the known ancients of orthodox archeology didn’t have access to diamond, invoke some unkown advanced technology to fill the imaginary void produced by such, and then hide behind the inability to test the claim.

How old are you? The reason I ask is because I have a strict policy against arguing with teenage boys and I'm starting to think your anonymous internet career as "Archae" might have began around the age of nine with some Egyptologist-Cub-Scout kind of organization, especially in light of your nom de plume...

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Lubicz role is mentioned in a number of Dr. Schoch’s publications as well Mr. West’s.

So then, about that citation you forgot to provide (again)...

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How about to correct your original construction, which was wrong..... if you don’t like it get it right first the next time.

I asked for a citation to a scholarly article about water erosion on the Sphinx prior to Schoch. Which has nothing to do with your (so-called) "correction". Sorry.

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It's pretty clear from the actual penetrations into the core masonry of the GP that it is masonry fill and not finely carved blocks... Care to enlighten us as to where your now clearly imaginary claim about "millions of 2.5 ton blocks with tolerances of .010 inch" popped into existence from?

So then, do you want to try again? Perhaps with a picture of your new-and-improved position. Since that picture you linked to is completely unrelated the above claim. The claim you've now suddenly changed your tune about.

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I was under the impression you thought exaggeration of block weights were lies and anyone who grossly exaggerated those weights were liars....

Somehow you managed to be just as incoherent as before. Perhaps you should try saying the whole thing completely differently. Preferably with a point, too, this time. Thanks in advance!

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>But seriously, I repeat: Why should anyone take an anonymous
>person, who is hiding behind a fake name and whose
>age/expertise is completely unknown, seriously about any of
>these topics? Someone who professes certainty that it was done
>with "simple technology", despite the obvious fact such
>certainty is clearly lacking? Someone who can barely manage to
>make a credible case for their position STRICTLY arguing
>against the most far-out claims of the Ancient Alien
>proponents? Please, enlighten me...

Do you really think that only "far-out" ancient Alien proponents are making these types of claims? Apparently you missed the section on stone enigmas in Fingerprints of the Gods.

So then, what you mean to say is that there is no good reason to take some anonymous random person seriously, one who constantly misrepresents his opponents arguments, incessantly brings up the same strawmen every chance he gets, and also suggest arguments for his opponents and then proves them wrong in the same sentence... Glad to know I can finally wash my hands of this sad excuse for a "debate"...

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It's clear to me you didn't bother to actually look at the image I just posted..... care to guess what it weighed as a larger block in the quarry before in was moved so it could be carved into a 600+ ton column of granite and perched so precariously on it's large base? You were the one going on about the Russians lying about a block weight they moved, so can you tell us what they were also lying about here?

You mean the Alexander column erected in 1830? Quarried with nineteenth century equipment, transported by barge, then placed upright by 3000 men AFTER it had been delivered to St. Petersburg? Kind of a bad example, given its meager weight and the amount of modern technology involved, don't you think?

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Because you were asking for one...

"Anyway, if any of those involved with this program are on these boards, I'd be more than happy to debate you on this subject (even though I'm not an ancient alien proponent, I am convinced of a technologically-advanced culture in our remote past). And if they aren't on here, I'll gladly extend that offer to anyone who thinks this program is remotely accurate and/or honest. Cheers."

Notice the debate request was specifically about the 'Ancient Aliens Debunked' program and/or those involved with it, the video you said you haven't watched yet? Not to mention, based on the amount of strawmen you bring up and then refute, I don't really think my involvement is necessary in your debate with yourself here. (Although this is still kind of fun. But just barely...)

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Enlighten us as to why it's funny...... remember it's not because granite can only be scratched with diamond (that is not funny either).

Is that nine times, or ten? I've lost count... But seriously, I have to say that continuing this pitiful excuse for a "debate" is highly unlikely. Of course, feel free to continue it with yourself, but from here forward it will be a little bit different for you, as I probably won't be replying to much of what you have to say. (Not much different, I imagine.) But anyway, I'm confident you can defeat yourself, with the proper strategy and some dumb luck, of course... Cheers.



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Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 376 Citizen Attorney 05-Jan-13 00:24
Debunker debunked? 417 drrayeye 05-Jan-13 05:15
Aliens is making people re-evaluate certain paradigms 484 Ratcho 05-Jan-13 06:22
How is it possible? 375 gulsbo 05-Jan-13 16:16
Entertainment industry rules OK; thumbs down to education 318 Richard Fusniak 05-Jan-13 16:57
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Re: Entertainment industry rules OK; thumbs down to education 374 Richard Fusniak 06-Jan-13 08:59
Re: Entertainment industry rules OK; thumbs down to education 389 gulsbo 07-Jan-13 21:07
Re: Entertainment industry rules OK; thumbs down to education 434 Richard Fusniak 08-Jan-13 00:36
Fuzzy 321 Dan Mc F 08-Jan-13 12:49
Re: Fuzzy 413 Richard Fusniak 08-Jan-13 13:12
Re: Entertainment industry rules OK; thumbs down to education 343 gulsbo 09-Jan-13 21:36
Re: Smithsonian never lies.... 538 Thunderbird 23-Mar-13 03:39
who said aliens 387 Citizen Attorney 05-Jan-13 16:42
Re: who said aliens 380 David L 05-Jan-13 17:42
Re: who said aliens 431 Citizen Attorney 05-Jan-13 21:23
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Re: Agreed 357 Citizen Attorney 06-Jan-13 19:16
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Re: who said aliens 463 Thanos5150 06-Jan-13 18:38
Re: who said aliens 359 Citizen Attorney 06-Jan-13 19:17
Re: who said aliens 464 Thanos5150 06-Jan-13 22:45
Ancient Aliens' Debunked - Review 742 Thanos5150 07-Jan-13 02:23
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 407 MJT 08-Jan-13 13:58
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 402 Susan Doris 08-Jan-13 14:33
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 430 Richard Fusniak 08-Jan-13 15:19
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 462 Bobajot 10-Jan-13 04:01
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 458 wordsmyth 13-Jan-13 03:26
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 394 Archae Solenhofen 13-Jan-13 04:53
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 394 wordsmyth 15-Jan-13 01:44
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 436 richarddullum 15-Jan-13 03:28
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Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 448 Archae Solenhofen 15-Jan-13 05:21
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Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 379 Merrell 15-Jan-13 09:55
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 448 wordsmyth 15-Jan-13 10:26
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Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 442 Archae Solenhofen 15-Jan-13 19:09
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 407 wordsmyth 15-Jan-13 22:26
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 372 Archae Solenhofen 16-Jan-13 03:29
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Re: Vyse Good.....alternative....Evil 438 Thanos5150 24-Feb-13 23:50
Re: Vyse Good.....alternative....Evil 386 Scott Creighton 25-Feb-13 00:18
Re: Vyse Good.....alternative....Evil 490 Martin Stower 25-Feb-13 17:57
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Re: Vyse Good.....alternative....Evil 393 wordsmyth 25-Feb-13 22:25
Re: Vyse Good.....alternative....Evil 410 Martin Stower 26-Feb-13 15:59
Re: Vyse Good.....alternative....Evil 408 wordsmyth 26-Feb-13 21:41
Re: Vyse Good.....alternative....Evil 426 Thanos5150 26-Feb-13 18:57
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Re: Vyse Good.....alternative....Evil 347 Thanos5150 27-Feb-13 21:26
Re: Vyse Good.....alternative....Evil 446 Martin Stower 28-Feb-13 16:57
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Re: Vyse Good.....alternative....Evil 390 Martin Stower 28-Feb-13 18:08
Re: Vyse Good.....alternative....Evil 422 Merrell 28-Feb-13 09:33
Re: Can we seriously believe that Alford has a clue.... 404 Thunderbird 25-Feb-13 16:41
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Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 417 Archae Solenhofen 15-Jan-13 18:41
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 399 Thanos5150 15-Jan-13 22:13
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 384 Archae Solenhofen 15-Jan-13 22:44
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 473 Thanos5150 16-Jan-13 04:40
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 379 Archae Solenhofen 16-Jan-13 06:02
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 431 Thanos5150 16-Jan-13 06:54
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 441 Archae Solenhofen 16-Jan-13 09:09
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 376 Thanos5150 16-Jan-13 17:52
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 411 Archae Solenhofen 16-Jan-13 20:21
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 424 Thanos5150 16-Jan-13 21:21
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 325 Archae Solenhofen 17-Jan-13 04:57
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 434 Thanos5150 17-Jan-13 05:42
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 404 Archae Solenhofen 17-Jan-13 07:05
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Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 462 Thanos5150 17-Jan-13 23:46
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Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 396 wordsmyth 16-Jan-13 06:30
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Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 388 Archae Solenhofen 23-Feb-13 04:49
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 417 Bobajot 23-Feb-13 12:31
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 397 Archae Solenhofen 23-Feb-13 20:25
Science Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 386 cladking 23-Feb-13 21:29
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 388 Bobajot 24-Feb-13 02:34
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 376 Archae Solenhofen 25-Feb-13 20:21
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 379 Bobajot 26-Feb-13 03:01
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 334 wordsmyth 23-Feb-13 21:21
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 361 Thanos5150 23-Feb-13 21:32
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 337 Thanos5150 23-Feb-13 22:10
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 362 wordsmyth 23-Feb-13 22:18
We would probably be amazed 298 Ratcho 24-Feb-13 00:52
Re: We would probably be amazed 305 wordsmyth 24-Feb-13 03:48
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 368 Archae Solenhofen 24-Feb-13 01:50
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 372 wordsmyth 24-Feb-13 02:44
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 352 wordsmyth 23-Feb-13 05:18
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 339 Archae Solenhofen 23-Feb-13 04:41
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 302 Archae Solenhofen 20-Feb-13 02:11
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 393 cladking 20-Feb-13 04:08
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 423 Thanos5150 22-Feb-13 05:31
I've tried hardened steel chisels 361 Ratcho 22-Feb-13 06:15
Re: I've tried hardened steel chisels 345 Susan Doris 22-Feb-13 07:15
Re: I've tried hardened steel chisels 394 Ratcho 22-Feb-13 17:51
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 387 Archae Solenhofen 23-Feb-13 05:15
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 396 cladking 23-Feb-13 15:13
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 231 Thanos5150 23-Feb-13 20:57
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 524 Archae Solenhofen 25-Feb-13 20:14
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 373 Susan Doris 24-Feb-13 15:49
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 387 wordsmyth 24-Feb-13 22:30
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 409 wordsmyth 20-Feb-13 02:22
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 385 Archae Solenhofen 20-Feb-13 03:47
How many swings would it take 409 Ratcho 20-Feb-13 06:29
Re: How many swings would it take 351 Susan Doris 20-Feb-13 17:31
Re: How many swings would it take 385 cladking 20-Feb-13 21:24
If you have the time... 345 Ratcho 22-Feb-13 22:48
Re: How many swings would it take 409 Archae Solenhofen 20-Feb-13 18:14
Re: How many swings would it take 336 cladking 20-Feb-13 21:30
Re: How many swings would it take 423 wordsmyth 21-Feb-13 08:39
Re: How many swings would it take 425 Scott Creighton 21-Feb-13 08:45
Re: How many swings would it take 359 Archae Solenhofen 21-Feb-13 17:32
Re: How many swings would it take 375 Scott Creighton 21-Feb-13 18:04
Re: How many swings would it take 334 Archae Solenhofen 21-Feb-13 19:55
Re: How many swings would it take 348 Scott Creighton 21-Feb-13 21:40
I'd still like to know 347 Ratcho 21-Feb-13 22:02
Re: I'd still like to know 389 Archae Solenhofen 21-Feb-13 22:43
Re: I'd still like to know 340 wordsmyth 21-Feb-13 23:47
Re: I'd still like to know 353 wordsmyth 22-Feb-13 00:10
Re: I'd still like to know 371 Archae Solenhofen 22-Feb-13 00:11
Re: Unfortunately, I'd still don't care... 370 wordsmyth 22-Feb-13 00:31
Re: Unfortunately, I'd still don't care... 386 Archae Solenhofen 22-Feb-13 00:47
Re: Unfortunately, I'd still don't care... 358 wordsmyth 22-Feb-13 07:47
Re: Unfortunately, I'd still don't care... 383 Archae Solenhofen 22-Feb-13 16:42
Re: How many swings would it take 424 wordsmyth 22-Feb-13 00:20
Re: How many swings would it take 306 Susan Doris 21-Feb-13 13:44
Re: How many swings would it take 315 Archae Solenhofen 21-Feb-13 16:09
Re: How many swings would it take 364 Scott Creighton 21-Feb-13 18:59
Re: How many swings would it take 379 Archae Solenhofen 21-Feb-13 20:06
Re: How many swings would it take 361 Scott Creighton 21-Feb-13 21:43
Re: How many swings would it take 369 Archae Solenhofen 21-Feb-13 22:22
Re: How many swings would it take 363 Scott Creighton 21-Feb-13 22:30
Re: How many swings would it take 359 Archae Solenhofen 21-Feb-13 22:48
Re: How many swings would it take 382 Morten 22-Feb-13 10:52
Re: How many swings would it take 356 wordsmyth 22-Feb-13 23:30
Re: How many swings would it take 474 Scott Creighton 21-Feb-13 22:55
Mod Note > Off Topic Sub-Thread 253 Dr. Troglodyte 22-Feb-13 00:01
Re: How many swings would it take 373 richarddullum 22-Feb-13 03:20
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 315 Audrey 13-Feb-13 23:21
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 378 Susan Doris 14-Feb-13 14:59
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 322 cladking 14-Feb-13 16:07
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 383 Archae Solenhofen 14-Feb-13 15:29
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 368 cladking 14-Feb-13 16:14
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 400 Archae Solenhofen 14-Feb-13 16:41
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 345 cladking 14-Feb-13 18:57
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 384 Thanos5150 20-Jan-13 19:04
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 295 Workjay 21-Jan-13 02:42
Re: Myth and Truth 367 Thunderbird 20-Jan-13 17:33
Re: Myth and Truth 380 wordsmyth 20-Jan-13 18:34
Re: Myth and Truth 407 cladking 20-Jan-13 22:30
Re: Myth and Truth 422 Glorious 20-Jan-13 23:31
Re: Myth and Truth 393 cladking 21-Jan-13 00:26
Re: Perception 504 Thunderbird 21-Jan-13 04:15
Re: Perception 388 Glorious 21-Jan-13 05:34
Re: Perception 339 Chris Jordan 21-Jan-13 07:45
Re: Perception 376 loveritas 21-Jan-13 11:32
Re: Change of Perception 394 Chris Jordan 21-Jan-13 16:20
Re: words/music /NT 311 Thunderbird 21-Jan-13 04:45
Re: words/music /NT 387 wordsmyth 23-Jan-13 08:14
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 379 Anomalies 21-Jan-13 16:53
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 372 Workjay 21-Jan-13 17:59
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 365 Anomalies 21-Jan-13 18:13
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 428 Susan Doris 28-Jan-13 16:29
Who knew? 393 cladking 28-Jan-13 22:07
Re: Who knew? 514 Susan Doris 01-Feb-13 18:25
Re: Who knew? 359 cladking 01-Feb-13 20:42
Egyptology Debunked; they wouldn't know a snake if it bit them. 448 cladking 28-Jan-13 21:04
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 359 cladking 21-Jan-13 18:16
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 361 Anomalies 22-Jan-13 15:09
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 292 cladking 22-Jan-13 15:39
'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 378 Anomalies 22-Jan-13 15:54
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 397 Workjay 22-Jan-13 16:10
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 274 Anomalies 22-Jan-13 16:32
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 357 Workjay 22-Jan-13 21:06
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 408 Anomalies 23-Jan-13 14:53
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 366 Workjay 23-Jan-13 21:10
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 377 Anomalies 23-Jan-13 21:51
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 371 Workjay 23-Jan-13 22:58
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 327 richarddullum 24-Jan-13 02:21
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 350 Workjay 24-Jan-13 02:46
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 288 richarddullum 24-Jan-13 14:33
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 373 Aine 24-Jan-13 13:00
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 367 richarddullum 25-Jan-13 01:57
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 327 Susan Doris 27-Jan-13 13:02
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 398 Susan Doris 02-Feb-13 14:01
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 351 Anomalies 05-Feb-13 15:41
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 352 Workjay 05-Feb-13 17:39
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 383 Anomalies 05-Feb-13 21:25
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 384 Workjay 06-Feb-13 17:31
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 373 Ratcho 06-Feb-13 19:02
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 330 Anomalies 06-Feb-13 21:54
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 324 Workjay 06-Feb-13 22:19
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 263 cladking 22-Jan-13 16:29
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 264 Anomalies 21-Jan-13 16:07
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 266 Workjay 21-Jan-13 16:13
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 240 carolb 21-Jan-13 17:52
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 245 Anomalies 21-Jan-13 18:00
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 283 carolb 21-Jan-13 18:05
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 250 Anomalies 21-Jan-13 19:01
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 289 carolb 21-Jan-13 19:07
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 259 Anomalies 21-Jan-13 19:21
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 306 carolb 21-Jan-13 19:42
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 265 Anomalies 21-Jan-13 19:58
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 274 carolb 21-Jan-13 20:17
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 229 Anomalies 21-Jan-13 20:27
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 261 Susan Doris 14-Feb-13 14:42
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 265 Anomalies 22-Jan-13 14:50
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 227 wordsmyth 23-Jan-13 08:35
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 267 Workjay 22-Jan-13 02:20
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 271 richarddullum 22-Jan-13 14:31
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 294 Aine 22-Jan-13 14:49
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 278 Anomalies 22-Jan-13 14:56
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 312 Aine 22-Jan-13 15:29
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 331 Aine 22-Jan-13 15:47
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 237 Anomalies 22-Jan-13 16:08
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 341 Aine 22-Jan-13 16:23
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 316 Aine 22-Jan-13 16:24
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 293 richarddullum 23-Jan-13 04:50
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 255 wordsmyth 23-Jan-13 08:52
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 268 richarddullum 23-Jan-13 14:28
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 283 wordsmyth 23-Jan-13 15:19
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 320 Aine 23-Jan-13 15:42
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 270 richarddullum 24-Jan-13 02:03
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 282 Aine 23-Jan-13 14:39
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 288 wordsmyth 23-Jan-13 15:09
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 328 Aine 24-Jan-13 13:19
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 265 wordsmyth 25-Jan-13 05:08
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 268 Glorious 25-Jan-13 05:49
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 335 Susan Doris 25-Jan-13 06:47
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 275 wordsmyth 25-Jan-13 07:03
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 267 Glorious 25-Jan-13 07:32
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 240 wordsmyth 25-Jan-13 08:09
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 231 cladking 25-Jan-13 16:32
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 252 Susan Doris 23-Jan-13 06:54
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 268 Glorious 23-Jan-13 07:43
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 311 Aine 23-Jan-13 14:47
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 294 BobbyH 22-Jan-13 19:21
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 296 Aine 22-Jan-13 19:41
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 277 BobbyH 22-Jan-13 19:56
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 312 Aine 22-Jan-13 19:59
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 344 Aine 22-Jan-13 20:09
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 293 Glorious 22-Jan-13 20:52
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 273 BobbyH 22-Jan-13 14:57
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 260 Workjay 22-Jan-13 15:08
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 272 BobbyH 22-Jan-13 15:41
Episode: "Destination Orion" was very well done 274 David L 17-Jan-13 17:35
Re: Episode: "Destination Orion" was very well done 262 Thomas Brophy 03-Mar-13 23:30
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 162 wordsmyth 23-Jan-13 08:10
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 299 Archae Solenhofen 25-Jan-13 03:28
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 295 wordsmyth 25-Jan-13 06:32
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 367 Thanos5150 25-Jan-13 18:22
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 274 Sangreal Sea 25-Jan-13 19:11
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 274 Warwick 11-Feb-13 22:32
The latest episode "Alien Abductions" is the most absurd yet 247 David L 23-Feb-13 23:41
Re: The latest episode "Alien Abductions" is the most absurd yet 265 Anomalies 25-Feb-13 19:00
Re: The latest episode "Alien Abductions" is the most absurd yet 191 David L 26-Feb-13 01:44
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 185 LanceHall 23-Mar-13 00:28


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