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How is it a "straw man" when numerous fringe authors are claming granite can only be scratched with diamond?

Because I'm not claiming it, nor is anyone in the video which I specifically wanted to debate about. On the other hand, you incessantly bring it up, on five different occasions already in this brief exchange, six including the above, and then you proceed to refute it. This behavior being the very definition of a strawman, a false argument created to misrepresent an opponent's position. FYI, I guess...

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This false notion in its various forms is a key aspect of spreading advanced technology claims through many fringe media of this sort.

Hilarious! I mean, seriously, if you think that's one of the "key aspects" to the ancient advanced-technology theory, well, then I feel embarrassed for you because after ten years, I would think you had a better grasp on your opponent's position than THAT...

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What technology was that.... specific examples of such

Did you forget what we were talking about? I was generally referring to your useless examples of "simple technology". More specifically, I was referring to your wonderful home-made drill made from a popsicle stick, rubber band, and kitty litter.

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(BTW that is not the stone products claimed to be made by such, but the actual technology that produced them)? I suggest finding it somewhere in Nicholson & Shaw (2000). Good luck in that because it is pretty clear it's not there.

That's wonderful. Unfortunately, I don't care. But anyway, nice try suggesting what my argument should be and where I should go to find out your suggested argument is wrong.

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Maybe you think you can get away with claiming these lost ones were extremely tidy, but I doubt it.

So then, you are unaware of the fact that the only materials that don't corrode, degrade, and/or decompose within about 500 years are solid stone and solid gold? Not to mention, the older a civilization is, the less there is artifact-wise, mainly because the archaeological record preserves only a very small fraction of objects that somehow manage to get buried in the first place. Just to name a few of the more obvious reasons...

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I belive I have asked Mr. Dunn if his spiraling scratch is visible on the image below and I also asked him to mark its location on such so we can all see what he was measuring and I am still waiting (it will be10 years on the 26th of January).

Did he have to file a restraining order against you then?

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As pointed out by Mr. Dunn, and should be quite clear from the photo below, some of Petrie's observation about such are not consistent with reality.

To an expert, much less a layman, nothing is "clear" from that photo. Sorry.

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Does he also believe that granite can only be scratched with diamond?

Seven times now.

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The bow-drill experiments of Stocks (1993, 2003) cut granite into a tapered core, it rough polished the sides, and it produced striations on the surface.

Let's see a video then. Like I specifically requested.

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So all the fringe have is the megaliths and little to nothing else other than gross exaggeration about such, like clams of 100s of 200+ ton blocks and 2.5 million blocks with 0.01 tolerances?

I think you are forgetting about the team of Japanese engineers who scientifically proved that they could not build a 1/10 scale replica of the Great Pyramid (a measly 48 feet tall) neither with ancient technology nor modern technology. Among other things...

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Don't tell me ..... go tell the fringe authors claiming granite can only be scratched with diamond.

Eight times now.

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Did not Mr. Stocks do experiments using known/deduced ancient Egyptian technology?

Did you provide a video of these experiments, as requested? Because what is claimed to be possible on paper with most Egyptologists ignorant of basic engineering is usually harder to prove in reality.

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Ya, that's right, fringe authors insinuate that granite is equal to the hardest substance known, state the known ancients of orthodox archeology didn’t have access to diamond, invoke some unkown advanced technology to fill the imaginary void produced by such, and then hide behind the inability to test the claim.

How old are you? The reason I ask is because I have a strict policy against arguing with teenage boys and I'm starting to think your anonymous internet career as "Archae" might have began around the age of nine with some Egyptologist-Cub-Scout kind of organization, especially in light of your nom de plume...

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Lubicz role is mentioned in a number of Dr. Schoch’s publications as well Mr. West’s.

So then, about that citation you forgot to provide (again)...

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How about to correct your original construction, which was wrong..... if you don’t like it get it right first the next time.

I asked for a citation to a scholarly article about water erosion on the Sphinx prior to Schoch. Which has nothing to do with your (so-called) "correction". Sorry.

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It's pretty clear from the actual penetrations into the core masonry of the GP that it is masonry fill and not finely carved blocks... Care to enlighten us as to where your now clearly imaginary claim about "millions of 2.5 ton blocks with tolerances of .010 inch" popped into existence from?

So then, do you want to try again? Perhaps with a picture of your new-and-improved position. Since that picture you linked to is completely unrelated the above claim. The claim you've now suddenly changed your tune about.

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I was under the impression you thought exaggeration of block weights were lies and anyone who grossly exaggerated those weights were liars....

Somehow you managed to be just as incoherent as before. Perhaps you should try saying the whole thing completely differently. Preferably with a point, too, this time. Thanks in advance!

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>But seriously, I repeat: Why should anyone take an anonymous
>person, who is hiding behind a fake name and whose
>age/expertise is completely unknown, seriously about any of
>these topics? Someone who professes certainty that it was done
>with "simple technology", despite the obvious fact such
>certainty is clearly lacking? Someone who can barely manage to
>make a credible case for their position STRICTLY arguing
>against the most far-out claims of the Ancient Alien
>proponents? Please, enlighten me...

Do you really think that only "far-out" ancient Alien proponents are making these types of claims? Apparently you missed the section on stone enigmas in Fingerprints of the Gods.

So then, what you mean to say is that there is no good reason to take some anonymous random person seriously, one who constantly misrepresents his opponents arguments, incessantly brings up the same strawmen every chance he gets, and also suggest arguments for his opponents and then proves them wrong in the same sentence... Glad to know I can finally wash my hands of this sad excuse for a "debate"...

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It's clear to me you didn't bother to actually look at the image I just posted..... care to guess what it weighed as a larger block in the quarry before in was moved so it could be carved into a 600+ ton column of granite and perched so precariously on it's large base? You were the one going on about the Russians lying about a block weight they moved, so can you tell us what they were also lying about here?

You mean the Alexander column erected in 1830? Quarried with nineteenth century equipment, transported by barge, then placed upright by 3000 men AFTER it had been delivered to St. Petersburg? Kind of a bad example, given its meager weight and the amount of modern technology involved, don't you think?

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Because you were asking for one...

"Anyway, if any of those involved with this program are on these boards, I'd be more than happy to debate you on this subject (even though I'm not an ancient alien proponent, I am convinced of a technologically-advanced culture in our remote past). And if they aren't on here, I'll gladly extend that offer to anyone who thinks this program is remotely accurate and/or honest. Cheers."

Notice the debate request was specifically about the 'Ancient Aliens Debunked' program and/or those involved with it, the video you said you haven't watched yet? Not to mention, based on the amount of strawmen you bring up and then refute, I don't really think my involvement is necessary in your debate with yourself here. (Although this is still kind of fun. But just barely...)

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Enlighten us as to why it's funny...... remember it's not because granite can only be scratched with diamond (that is not funny either).

Is that nine times, or ten? I've lost count... But seriously, I have to say that continuing this pitiful excuse for a "debate" is highly unlikely. Of course, feel free to continue it with yourself, but from here forward it will be a little bit different for you, as I probably won't be replying to much of what you have to say. (Not much different, I imagine.) But anyway, I'm confident you can defeat yourself, with the proper strategy and some dumb luck, of course... Cheers.



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Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 407 Citizen Attorney 05-Jan-13 00:24
Debunker debunked? 442 drrayeye 05-Jan-13 05:15
Aliens is making people re-evaluate certain paradigms 518 Ratcho 05-Jan-13 06:22
How is it possible? 395 gulsbo 05-Jan-13 16:16
Entertainment industry rules OK; thumbs down to education 348 Richard Fusniak 05-Jan-13 16:57
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Re: Entertainment industry rules OK; thumbs down to education 397 Richard Fusniak 06-Jan-13 08:59
Re: Entertainment industry rules OK; thumbs down to education 429 gulsbo 07-Jan-13 21:07
Re: Entertainment industry rules OK; thumbs down to education 471 Richard Fusniak 08-Jan-13 00:36
Fuzzy 348 Dan Mc F 08-Jan-13 12:49
Re: Fuzzy 450 Richard Fusniak 08-Jan-13 13:12
Re: Entertainment industry rules OK; thumbs down to education 382 gulsbo 09-Jan-13 21:36
Re: Smithsonian never lies.... 579 Thunderbird 23-Mar-13 03:39
who said aliens 429 Citizen Attorney 05-Jan-13 16:42
Re: who said aliens 399 David L 05-Jan-13 17:42
Re: who said aliens 466 Citizen Attorney 05-Jan-13 21:23
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Re: Agreed 397 Citizen Attorney 06-Jan-13 19:16
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Re: who said aliens 389 Citizen Attorney 06-Jan-13 19:17
Re: who said aliens 509 Thanos5150 06-Jan-13 22:45
Ancient Aliens' Debunked - Review 801 Thanos5150 07-Jan-13 02:23
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Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 429 Susan Doris 08-Jan-13 14:33
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 451 Richard Fusniak 08-Jan-13 15:19
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Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 484 wordsmyth 13-Jan-13 03:26
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 417 Archae Solenhofen 13-Jan-13 04:53
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Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 407 Archae Solenhofen 15-Jan-13 22:44
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 499 Thanos5150 16-Jan-13 04:40
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 401 Archae Solenhofen 16-Jan-13 06:02
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Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 466 Archae Solenhofen 16-Jan-13 09:09
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Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 444 Archae Solenhofen 16-Jan-13 20:21
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 450 Thanos5150 16-Jan-13 21:21
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Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 431 Archae Solenhofen 17-Jan-13 07:05
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Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 412 Archae Solenhofen 23-Feb-13 04:49
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 437 Bobajot 23-Feb-13 12:31
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 419 Archae Solenhofen 23-Feb-13 20:25
Science Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 419 cladking 23-Feb-13 21:29
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 408 Bobajot 24-Feb-13 02:34
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 397 Archae Solenhofen 25-Feb-13 20:21
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 400 Bobajot 26-Feb-13 03:01
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 356 wordsmyth 23-Feb-13 21:21
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 395 Thanos5150 23-Feb-13 21:32
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 360 Thanos5150 23-Feb-13 22:10
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 381 wordsmyth 23-Feb-13 22:18
We would probably be amazed 319 Ratcho 24-Feb-13 00:52
Re: We would probably be amazed 351 wordsmyth 24-Feb-13 03:48
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 396 Archae Solenhofen 24-Feb-13 01:50
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 392 wordsmyth 24-Feb-13 02:44
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 372 wordsmyth 23-Feb-13 05:18
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 358 Archae Solenhofen 23-Feb-13 04:41
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 320 Archae Solenhofen 20-Feb-13 02:11
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 421 cladking 20-Feb-13 04:08
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 443 Thanos5150 22-Feb-13 05:31
I've tried hardened steel chisels 385 Ratcho 22-Feb-13 06:15
Re: I've tried hardened steel chisels 367 Susan Doris 22-Feb-13 07:15
Re: I've tried hardened steel chisels 416 Ratcho 22-Feb-13 17:51
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 410 Archae Solenhofen 23-Feb-13 05:15
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 425 cladking 23-Feb-13 15:13
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 251 Thanos5150 23-Feb-13 20:57
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 554 Archae Solenhofen 25-Feb-13 20:14
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 401 Susan Doris 24-Feb-13 15:49
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 405 wordsmyth 24-Feb-13 22:30
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 436 wordsmyth 20-Feb-13 02:22
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 409 Archae Solenhofen 20-Feb-13 03:47
How many swings would it take 434 Ratcho 20-Feb-13 06:29
Re: How many swings would it take 379 Susan Doris 20-Feb-13 17:31
Re: How many swings would it take 413 cladking 20-Feb-13 21:24
If you have the time... 366 Ratcho 22-Feb-13 22:48
Re: How many swings would it take 432 Archae Solenhofen 20-Feb-13 18:14
Re: How many swings would it take 355 cladking 20-Feb-13 21:30
Re: How many swings would it take 444 wordsmyth 21-Feb-13 08:39
Re: How many swings would it take 447 Scott Creighton 21-Feb-13 08:45
Re: How many swings would it take 378 Archae Solenhofen 21-Feb-13 17:32
Re: How many swings would it take 400 Scott Creighton 21-Feb-13 18:04
Re: How many swings would it take 354 Archae Solenhofen 21-Feb-13 19:55
Re: How many swings would it take 372 Scott Creighton 21-Feb-13 21:40
I'd still like to know 365 Ratcho 21-Feb-13 22:02
Re: I'd still like to know 411 Archae Solenhofen 21-Feb-13 22:43
Re: I'd still like to know 366 wordsmyth 21-Feb-13 23:47
Re: I'd still like to know 373 wordsmyth 22-Feb-13 00:10
Re: I'd still like to know 397 Archae Solenhofen 22-Feb-13 00:11
Re: Unfortunately, I'd still don't care... 429 wordsmyth 22-Feb-13 00:31
Re: Unfortunately, I'd still don't care... 407 Archae Solenhofen 22-Feb-13 00:47
Re: Unfortunately, I'd still don't care... 378 wordsmyth 22-Feb-13 07:47
Re: Unfortunately, I'd still don't care... 402 Archae Solenhofen 22-Feb-13 16:42
Re: How many swings would it take 454 wordsmyth 22-Feb-13 00:20
Re: How many swings would it take 325 Susan Doris 21-Feb-13 13:44
Re: How many swings would it take 336 Archae Solenhofen 21-Feb-13 16:09
Re: How many swings would it take 385 Scott Creighton 21-Feb-13 18:59
Re: How many swings would it take 417 Archae Solenhofen 21-Feb-13 20:06
Re: How many swings would it take 383 Scott Creighton 21-Feb-13 21:43
Re: How many swings would it take 391 Archae Solenhofen 21-Feb-13 22:22
Re: How many swings would it take 412 Scott Creighton 21-Feb-13 22:30
Re: How many swings would it take 379 Archae Solenhofen 21-Feb-13 22:48
Re: How many swings would it take 409 Morten 22-Feb-13 10:52
Re: How many swings would it take 377 wordsmyth 22-Feb-13 23:30
Re: How many swings would it take 504 Scott Creighton 21-Feb-13 22:55
Mod Note > Off Topic Sub-Thread 272 Dr. Troglodyte 22-Feb-13 00:01
Re: How many swings would it take 393 richarddullum 22-Feb-13 03:20
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 336 Audrey 13-Feb-13 23:21
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 400 Susan Doris 14-Feb-13 14:59
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 343 cladking 14-Feb-13 16:07
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 405 Archae Solenhofen 14-Feb-13 15:29
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 384 cladking 14-Feb-13 16:14
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 423 Archae Solenhofen 14-Feb-13 16:41
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 368 cladking 14-Feb-13 18:57
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 405 Thanos5150 20-Jan-13 19:04
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 313 Workjay 21-Jan-13 02:42
Re: Myth and Truth 395 Thunderbird 20-Jan-13 17:33
Re: Myth and Truth 396 wordsmyth 20-Jan-13 18:34
Re: Myth and Truth 431 cladking 20-Jan-13 22:30
Re: Myth and Truth 449 Glorious 20-Jan-13 23:31
Re: Myth and Truth 423 cladking 21-Jan-13 00:26
Re: Perception 558 Thunderbird 21-Jan-13 04:15
Re: Perception 412 Glorious 21-Jan-13 05:34
Re: Perception 356 Chris Jordan 21-Jan-13 07:45
Re: Perception 404 loveritas 21-Jan-13 11:32
Re: Change of Perception 416 Chris Jordan 21-Jan-13 16:20
Re: words/music /NT 350 Thunderbird 21-Jan-13 04:45
Re: words/music /NT 418 wordsmyth 23-Jan-13 08:14
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 406 Anomalies 21-Jan-13 16:53
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 394 Workjay 21-Jan-13 17:59
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 394 Anomalies 21-Jan-13 18:13
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 461 Susan Doris 28-Jan-13 16:29
Who knew? 423 cladking 28-Jan-13 22:07
Re: Who knew? 535 Susan Doris 01-Feb-13 18:25
Re: Who knew? 374 cladking 01-Feb-13 20:42
Egyptology Debunked; they wouldn't know a snake if it bit them. 486 cladking 28-Jan-13 21:04
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 382 cladking 21-Jan-13 18:16
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 393 Anomalies 22-Jan-13 15:09
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 316 cladking 22-Jan-13 15:39
'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 408 Anomalies 22-Jan-13 15:54
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 419 Workjay 22-Jan-13 16:10
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 302 Anomalies 22-Jan-13 16:32
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 390 Workjay 22-Jan-13 21:06
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 435 Anomalies 23-Jan-13 14:53
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 406 Workjay 23-Jan-13 21:10
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 397 Anomalies 23-Jan-13 21:51
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 393 Workjay 23-Jan-13 22:58
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 347 richarddullum 24-Jan-13 02:21
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 382 Workjay 24-Jan-13 02:46
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 310 richarddullum 24-Jan-13 14:33
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 400 Aine 24-Jan-13 13:00
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 386 richarddullum 25-Jan-13 01:57
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 357 Susan Doris 27-Jan-13 13:02
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 423 Susan Doris 02-Feb-13 14:01
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 383 Anomalies 05-Feb-13 15:41
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 385 Workjay 05-Feb-13 17:39
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 417 Anomalies 05-Feb-13 21:25
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 424 Workjay 06-Feb-13 17:31
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 405 Ratcho 06-Feb-13 19:02
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 370 Anomalies 06-Feb-13 21:54
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 352 Workjay 06-Feb-13 22:19
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 290 cladking 22-Jan-13 16:29
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 282 Anomalies 21-Jan-13 16:07
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 289 Workjay 21-Jan-13 16:13
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 277 carolb 21-Jan-13 17:52
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 263 Anomalies 21-Jan-13 18:00
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 306 carolb 21-Jan-13 18:05
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 301 Anomalies 21-Jan-13 19:01
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 310 carolb 21-Jan-13 19:07
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 275 Anomalies 21-Jan-13 19:21
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 330 carolb 21-Jan-13 19:42
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 295 Anomalies 21-Jan-13 19:58
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 308 carolb 21-Jan-13 20:17
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 262 Anomalies 21-Jan-13 20:27
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 281 Susan Doris 14-Feb-13 14:42
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 303 Anomalies 22-Jan-13 14:50
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 272 wordsmyth 23-Jan-13 08:35
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 302 Workjay 22-Jan-13 02:20
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 296 richarddullum 22-Jan-13 14:31
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 320 Aine 22-Jan-13 14:49
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 303 Anomalies 22-Jan-13 14:56
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 343 Aine 22-Jan-13 15:29
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 353 Aine 22-Jan-13 15:47
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 257 Anomalies 22-Jan-13 16:08
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 361 Aine 22-Jan-13 16:23
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 339 Aine 22-Jan-13 16:24
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 336 richarddullum 23-Jan-13 04:50
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 283 wordsmyth 23-Jan-13 08:52
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 287 richarddullum 23-Jan-13 14:28
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 310 wordsmyth 23-Jan-13 15:19
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 337 Aine 23-Jan-13 15:42
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 306 richarddullum 24-Jan-13 02:03
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 303 Aine 23-Jan-13 14:39
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 320 wordsmyth 23-Jan-13 15:09
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 363 Aine 24-Jan-13 13:19
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 309 wordsmyth 25-Jan-13 05:08
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 319 Glorious 25-Jan-13 05:49
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 354 Susan Doris 25-Jan-13 06:47
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 314 wordsmyth 25-Jan-13 07:03
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 301 Glorious 25-Jan-13 07:32
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 262 wordsmyth 25-Jan-13 08:09
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 251 cladking 25-Jan-13 16:32
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 269 Susan Doris 23-Jan-13 06:54
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 311 Glorious 23-Jan-13 07:43
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 331 Aine 23-Jan-13 14:47
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 311 BobbyH 22-Jan-13 19:21
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 317 Aine 22-Jan-13 19:41
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 298 BobbyH 22-Jan-13 19:56
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 344 Aine 22-Jan-13 19:59
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 381 Aine 22-Jan-13 20:09
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 338 Glorious 22-Jan-13 20:52
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 303 BobbyH 22-Jan-13 14:57
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 288 Workjay 22-Jan-13 15:08
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 300 BobbyH 22-Jan-13 15:41
Episode: "Destination Orion" was very well done 307 David L 17-Jan-13 17:35
Re: Episode: "Destination Orion" was very well done 300 Thomas Brophy 03-Mar-13 23:30
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 182 wordsmyth 23-Jan-13 08:10
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 347 Archae Solenhofen 25-Jan-13 03:28
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 355 wordsmyth 25-Jan-13 06:32
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 408 Thanos5150 25-Jan-13 18:22
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 301 Sangreal Sea 25-Jan-13 19:11
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 320 Warwick 11-Feb-13 22:32
The latest episode "Alien Abductions" is the most absurd yet 287 David L 23-Feb-13 23:41
Re: The latest episode "Alien Abductions" is the most absurd yet 289 Anomalies 25-Feb-13 19:00
Re: The latest episode "Alien Abductions" is the most absurd yet 208 David L 26-Feb-13 01:44
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 206 LanceHall 23-Mar-13 00:28


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