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How is it a "straw man" when numerous fringe authors are claming granite can only be scratched with diamond?

Because I'm not claiming it, nor is anyone in the video which I specifically wanted to debate about. On the other hand, you incessantly bring it up, on five different occasions already in this brief exchange, six including the above, and then you proceed to refute it. This behavior being the very definition of a strawman, a false argument created to misrepresent an opponent's position. FYI, I guess...

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This false notion in its various forms is a key aspect of spreading advanced technology claims through many fringe media of this sort.

Hilarious! I mean, seriously, if you think that's one of the "key aspects" to the ancient advanced-technology theory, well, then I feel embarrassed for you because after ten years, I would think you had a better grasp on your opponent's position than THAT...

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What technology was that.... specific examples of such

Did you forget what we were talking about? I was generally referring to your useless examples of "simple technology". More specifically, I was referring to your wonderful home-made drill made from a popsicle stick, rubber band, and kitty litter.

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(BTW that is not the stone products claimed to be made by such, but the actual technology that produced them)? I suggest finding it somewhere in Nicholson & Shaw (2000). Good luck in that because it is pretty clear it's not there.

That's wonderful. Unfortunately, I don't care. But anyway, nice try suggesting what my argument should be and where I should go to find out your suggested argument is wrong.

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Maybe you think you can get away with claiming these lost ones were extremely tidy, but I doubt it.

So then, you are unaware of the fact that the only materials that don't corrode, degrade, and/or decompose within about 500 years are solid stone and solid gold? Not to mention, the older a civilization is, the less there is artifact-wise, mainly because the archaeological record preserves only a very small fraction of objects that somehow manage to get buried in the first place. Just to name a few of the more obvious reasons...

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I belive I have asked Mr. Dunn if his spiraling scratch is visible on the image below and I also asked him to mark its location on such so we can all see what he was measuring and I am still waiting (it will be10 years on the 26th of January).

Did he have to file a restraining order against you then?

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As pointed out by Mr. Dunn, and should be quite clear from the photo below, some of Petrie's observation about such are not consistent with reality.

To an expert, much less a layman, nothing is "clear" from that photo. Sorry.

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Does he also believe that granite can only be scratched with diamond?

Seven times now.

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The bow-drill experiments of Stocks (1993, 2003) cut granite into a tapered core, it rough polished the sides, and it produced striations on the surface.

Let's see a video then. Like I specifically requested.

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So all the fringe have is the megaliths and little to nothing else other than gross exaggeration about such, like clams of 100s of 200+ ton blocks and 2.5 million blocks with 0.01 tolerances?

I think you are forgetting about the team of Japanese engineers who scientifically proved that they could not build a 1/10 scale replica of the Great Pyramid (a measly 48 feet tall) neither with ancient technology nor modern technology. Among other things...

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Don't tell me ..... go tell the fringe authors claiming granite can only be scratched with diamond.

Eight times now.

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Did not Mr. Stocks do experiments using known/deduced ancient Egyptian technology?

Did you provide a video of these experiments, as requested? Because what is claimed to be possible on paper with most Egyptologists ignorant of basic engineering is usually harder to prove in reality.

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Ya, that's right, fringe authors insinuate that granite is equal to the hardest substance known, state the known ancients of orthodox archeology didn’t have access to diamond, invoke some unkown advanced technology to fill the imaginary void produced by such, and then hide behind the inability to test the claim.

How old are you? The reason I ask is because I have a strict policy against arguing with teenage boys and I'm starting to think your anonymous internet career as "Archae" might have began around the age of nine with some Egyptologist-Cub-Scout kind of organization, especially in light of your nom de plume...

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Lubicz role is mentioned in a number of Dr. Schoch’s publications as well Mr. West’s.

So then, about that citation you forgot to provide (again)...

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How about to correct your original construction, which was wrong..... if you don’t like it get it right first the next time.

I asked for a citation to a scholarly article about water erosion on the Sphinx prior to Schoch. Which has nothing to do with your (so-called) "correction". Sorry.

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It's pretty clear from the actual penetrations into the core masonry of the GP that it is masonry fill and not finely carved blocks... Care to enlighten us as to where your now clearly imaginary claim about "millions of 2.5 ton blocks with tolerances of .010 inch" popped into existence from?

So then, do you want to try again? Perhaps with a picture of your new-and-improved position. Since that picture you linked to is completely unrelated the above claim. The claim you've now suddenly changed your tune about.

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I was under the impression you thought exaggeration of block weights were lies and anyone who grossly exaggerated those weights were liars....

Somehow you managed to be just as incoherent as before. Perhaps you should try saying the whole thing completely differently. Preferably with a point, too, this time. Thanks in advance!

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>But seriously, I repeat: Why should anyone take an anonymous
>person, who is hiding behind a fake name and whose
>age/expertise is completely unknown, seriously about any of
>these topics? Someone who professes certainty that it was done
>with "simple technology", despite the obvious fact such
>certainty is clearly lacking? Someone who can barely manage to
>make a credible case for their position STRICTLY arguing
>against the most far-out claims of the Ancient Alien
>proponents? Please, enlighten me...

Do you really think that only "far-out" ancient Alien proponents are making these types of claims? Apparently you missed the section on stone enigmas in Fingerprints of the Gods.

So then, what you mean to say is that there is no good reason to take some anonymous random person seriously, one who constantly misrepresents his opponents arguments, incessantly brings up the same strawmen every chance he gets, and also suggest arguments for his opponents and then proves them wrong in the same sentence... Glad to know I can finally wash my hands of this sad excuse for a "debate"...

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It's clear to me you didn't bother to actually look at the image I just posted..... care to guess what it weighed as a larger block in the quarry before in was moved so it could be carved into a 600+ ton column of granite and perched so precariously on it's large base? You were the one going on about the Russians lying about a block weight they moved, so can you tell us what they were also lying about here?

You mean the Alexander column erected in 1830? Quarried with nineteenth century equipment, transported by barge, then placed upright by 3000 men AFTER it had been delivered to St. Petersburg? Kind of a bad example, given its meager weight and the amount of modern technology involved, don't you think?

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Because you were asking for one...

"Anyway, if any of those involved with this program are on these boards, I'd be more than happy to debate you on this subject (even though I'm not an ancient alien proponent, I am convinced of a technologically-advanced culture in our remote past). And if they aren't on here, I'll gladly extend that offer to anyone who thinks this program is remotely accurate and/or honest. Cheers."

Notice the debate request was specifically about the 'Ancient Aliens Debunked' program and/or those involved with it, the video you said you haven't watched yet? Not to mention, based on the amount of strawmen you bring up and then refute, I don't really think my involvement is necessary in your debate with yourself here. (Although this is still kind of fun. But just barely...)

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Enlighten us as to why it's funny...... remember it's not because granite can only be scratched with diamond (that is not funny either).

Is that nine times, or ten? I've lost count... But seriously, I have to say that continuing this pitiful excuse for a "debate" is highly unlikely. Of course, feel free to continue it with yourself, but from here forward it will be a little bit different for you, as I probably won't be replying to much of what you have to say. (Not much different, I imagine.) But anyway, I'm confident you can defeat yourself, with the proper strategy and some dumb luck, of course... Cheers.



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Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 325 Citizen Attorney 05-Jan-13 00:24
Debunker debunked? 369 drrayeye 05-Jan-13 05:15
Aliens is making people re-evaluate certain paradigms 440 Ratcho 05-Jan-13 06:22
How is it possible? 343 gulsbo 05-Jan-13 16:16
Entertainment industry rules OK; thumbs down to education 291 Richard Fusniak 05-Jan-13 16:57
Re: Entertainment industry rules OK; thumbs down to education 379 gulsbo 06-Jan-13 08:03
Re: Entertainment industry rules OK; thumbs down to education 346 Richard Fusniak 06-Jan-13 08:59
Re: Entertainment industry rules OK; thumbs down to education 358 gulsbo 07-Jan-13 21:07
Re: Entertainment industry rules OK; thumbs down to education 391 Richard Fusniak 08-Jan-13 00:36
Fuzzy 302 Dan Mc F 08-Jan-13 12:49
Re: Fuzzy 367 Richard Fusniak 08-Jan-13 13:12
Re: Entertainment industry rules OK; thumbs down to education 298 gulsbo 09-Jan-13 21:36
Re: Smithsonian never lies.... 510 Thunderbird 23-Mar-13 03:39
who said aliens 349 Citizen Attorney 05-Jan-13 16:42
Re: who said aliens 348 David L 05-Jan-13 17:42
Re: who said aliens 384 Citizen Attorney 05-Jan-13 21:23
Agreed 369 NetWorkAngel 05-Jan-13 22:05
Re: Agreed 331 Citizen Attorney 06-Jan-13 19:16
Re: who said aliens 372 David L 07-Jan-13 01:16
Re: who said aliens 412 Thanos5150 06-Jan-13 18:38
Re: who said aliens 321 Citizen Attorney 06-Jan-13 19:17
Re: who said aliens 415 Thanos5150 06-Jan-13 22:45
Ancient Aliens' Debunked - Review 679 Thanos5150 07-Jan-13 02:23
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 378 MJT 08-Jan-13 13:58
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 371 Susan Doris 08-Jan-13 14:33
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 390 Richard Fusniak 08-Jan-13 15:19
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 423 Bobajot 10-Jan-13 04:01
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 419 wordsmyth 13-Jan-13 03:26
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 357 Archae Solenhofen 13-Jan-13 04:53
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 355 wordsmyth 15-Jan-13 01:44
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 394 richarddullum 15-Jan-13 03:28
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 327 wordsmyth 15-Jan-13 07:12
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Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 396 Merrell 15-Jan-13 10:55
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 413 Archae Solenhofen 15-Jan-13 05:21
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Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 353 Merrell 15-Jan-13 09:55
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 414 wordsmyth 15-Jan-13 10:26
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Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 397 Archae Solenhofen 15-Jan-13 19:09
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 376 wordsmyth 15-Jan-13 22:26
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 335 Archae Solenhofen 16-Jan-13 03:29
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Re: Vyse Good.....alternative....Evil 386 Thanos5150 24-Feb-13 23:50
Re: Vyse Good.....alternative....Evil 360 Scott Creighton 25-Feb-13 00:18
Re: Vyse Good.....alternative....Evil 442 Martin Stower 25-Feb-13 17:57
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Re: Khufu cartouche Cambell's chamber 410 Thunderbird 18-Mar-13 17:33
Re: Vyse Good.....alternative....Evil 367 wordsmyth 25-Feb-13 22:25
Re: Vyse Good.....alternative....Evil 368 Martin Stower 26-Feb-13 15:59
Re: Vyse Good.....alternative....Evil 359 wordsmyth 26-Feb-13 21:41
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Re: Vyse Good.....alternative....Evil 386 Martin Stower 27-Feb-13 18:46
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Re: Vyse Good.....alternative....Evil 378 Martin Stower 28-Feb-13 16:57
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Re: Vyse Good.....alternative....Evil 358 Martin Stower 28-Feb-13 18:08
Re: Vyse Good.....alternative....Evil 390 Merrell 28-Feb-13 09:33
Re: Can we seriously believe that Alford has a clue.... 378 Thunderbird 25-Feb-13 16:41
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Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 377 Archae Solenhofen 15-Jan-13 18:41
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 346 Thanos5150 15-Jan-13 22:13
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 350 Archae Solenhofen 15-Jan-13 22:44
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 430 Thanos5150 16-Jan-13 04:40
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 344 Archae Solenhofen 16-Jan-13 06:02
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 387 Thanos5150 16-Jan-13 06:54
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 409 Archae Solenhofen 16-Jan-13 09:09
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Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 380 Archae Solenhofen 16-Jan-13 20:21
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 400 Thanos5150 16-Jan-13 21:21
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 298 Archae Solenhofen 17-Jan-13 04:57
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 380 Thanos5150 17-Jan-13 05:42
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 378 Archae Solenhofen 17-Jan-13 07:05
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Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 400 Thanos5150 17-Jan-13 23:46
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 381 wordsmyth 18-Jan-13 03:45
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Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 368 wordsmyth 16-Jan-13 06:30
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Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 329 Archae Solenhofen 23-Feb-13 04:49
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 383 Bobajot 23-Feb-13 12:31
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 371 Archae Solenhofen 23-Feb-13 20:25
Science Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 360 cladking 23-Feb-13 21:29
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 350 Bobajot 24-Feb-13 02:34
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 348 Archae Solenhofen 25-Feb-13 20:21
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 356 Bobajot 26-Feb-13 03:01
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 301 wordsmyth 23-Feb-13 21:21
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 330 Thanos5150 23-Feb-13 21:32
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 298 Thanos5150 23-Feb-13 22:10
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 342 wordsmyth 23-Feb-13 22:18
We would probably be amazed 269 Ratcho 24-Feb-13 00:52
Re: We would probably be amazed 264 wordsmyth 24-Feb-13 03:48
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 334 Archae Solenhofen 24-Feb-13 01:50
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 350 wordsmyth 24-Feb-13 02:44
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 327 wordsmyth 23-Feb-13 05:18
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 314 Archae Solenhofen 23-Feb-13 04:41
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 270 Archae Solenhofen 20-Feb-13 02:11
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 355 cladking 20-Feb-13 04:08
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 389 Thanos5150 22-Feb-13 05:31
I've tried hardened steel chisels 337 Ratcho 22-Feb-13 06:15
Re: I've tried hardened steel chisels 311 Susan Doris 22-Feb-13 07:15
Re: I've tried hardened steel chisels 354 Ratcho 22-Feb-13 17:51
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 353 Archae Solenhofen 23-Feb-13 05:15
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 346 cladking 23-Feb-13 15:13
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 193 Thanos5150 23-Feb-13 20:57
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 442 Archae Solenhofen 25-Feb-13 20:14
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 345 Susan Doris 24-Feb-13 15:49
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 354 wordsmyth 24-Feb-13 22:30
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 373 wordsmyth 20-Feb-13 02:22
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 362 Archae Solenhofen 20-Feb-13 03:47
How many swings would it take 373 Ratcho 20-Feb-13 06:29
Re: How many swings would it take 311 Susan Doris 20-Feb-13 17:31
Re: How many swings would it take 353 cladking 20-Feb-13 21:24
If you have the time... 320 Ratcho 22-Feb-13 22:48
Re: How many swings would it take 371 Archae Solenhofen 20-Feb-13 18:14
Re: How many swings would it take 296 cladking 20-Feb-13 21:30
Re: How many swings would it take 381 wordsmyth 21-Feb-13 08:39
Re: How many swings would it take 391 Scott Creighton 21-Feb-13 08:45
Re: How many swings would it take 320 Archae Solenhofen 21-Feb-13 17:32
Re: How many swings would it take 345 Scott Creighton 21-Feb-13 18:04
Re: How many swings would it take 307 Archae Solenhofen 21-Feb-13 19:55
Re: How many swings would it take 326 Scott Creighton 21-Feb-13 21:40
I'd still like to know 324 Ratcho 21-Feb-13 22:02
Re: I'd still like to know 354 Archae Solenhofen 21-Feb-13 22:43
Re: I'd still like to know 313 wordsmyth 21-Feb-13 23:47
Re: I'd still like to know 314 wordsmyth 22-Feb-13 00:10
Re: I'd still like to know 345 Archae Solenhofen 22-Feb-13 00:11
Re: Unfortunately, I'd still don't care... 336 wordsmyth 22-Feb-13 00:31
Re: Unfortunately, I'd still don't care... 355 Archae Solenhofen 22-Feb-13 00:47
Re: Unfortunately, I'd still don't care... 332 wordsmyth 22-Feb-13 07:47
Re: Unfortunately, I'd still don't care... 335 Archae Solenhofen 22-Feb-13 16:42
Re: How many swings would it take 377 wordsmyth 22-Feb-13 00:20
Re: How many swings would it take 275 Susan Doris 21-Feb-13 13:44
Re: How many swings would it take 285 Archae Solenhofen 21-Feb-13 16:09
Re: How many swings would it take 325 Scott Creighton 21-Feb-13 18:59
Re: How many swings would it take 346 Archae Solenhofen 21-Feb-13 20:06
Re: How many swings would it take 330 Scott Creighton 21-Feb-13 21:43
Re: How many swings would it take 341 Archae Solenhofen 21-Feb-13 22:22
Re: How many swings would it take 328 Scott Creighton 21-Feb-13 22:30
Re: How many swings would it take 320 Archae Solenhofen 21-Feb-13 22:48
Re: How many swings would it take 341 Morten 22-Feb-13 10:52
Re: How many swings would it take 332 wordsmyth 22-Feb-13 23:30
Re: How many swings would it take 450 Scott Creighton 21-Feb-13 22:55
Mod Note > Off Topic Sub-Thread 219 Dr. Troglodyte 22-Feb-13 00:01
Re: How many swings would it take 336 richarddullum 22-Feb-13 03:20
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 286 Audrey 13-Feb-13 23:21
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 347 Susan Doris 14-Feb-13 14:59
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 302 cladking 14-Feb-13 16:07
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 357 Archae Solenhofen 14-Feb-13 15:29
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 347 cladking 14-Feb-13 16:14
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 373 Archae Solenhofen 14-Feb-13 16:41
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 321 cladking 14-Feb-13 18:57
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 341 Thanos5150 20-Jan-13 19:04
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 272 Workjay 21-Jan-13 02:42
Re: Myth and Truth 331 Thunderbird 20-Jan-13 17:33
Re: Myth and Truth 347 wordsmyth 20-Jan-13 18:34
Re: Myth and Truth 360 cladking 20-Jan-13 22:30
Re: Myth and Truth 388 Glorious 20-Jan-13 23:31
Re: Myth and Truth 348 cladking 21-Jan-13 00:26
Re: Perception 460 Thunderbird 21-Jan-13 04:15
Re: Perception 361 Glorious 21-Jan-13 05:34
Re: Perception 301 Chris Jordan 21-Jan-13 07:45
Re: Perception 346 loveritas 21-Jan-13 11:32
Re: Change of Perception 369 Chris Jordan 21-Jan-13 16:20
Re: words/music /NT 275 Thunderbird 21-Jan-13 04:45
Re: words/music /NT 349 wordsmyth 23-Jan-13 08:14
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 355 Anomalies 21-Jan-13 16:53
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 329 Workjay 21-Jan-13 17:59
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 333 Anomalies 21-Jan-13 18:13
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 387 Susan Doris 28-Jan-13 16:29
Who knew? 354 cladking 28-Jan-13 22:07
Re: Who knew? 473 Susan Doris 01-Feb-13 18:25
Re: Who knew? 338 cladking 01-Feb-13 20:42
Egyptology Debunked; they wouldn't know a snake if it bit them. 369 cladking 28-Jan-13 21:04
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 312 cladking 21-Jan-13 18:16
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 324 Anomalies 22-Jan-13 15:09
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 273 cladking 22-Jan-13 15:39
'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 338 Anomalies 22-Jan-13 15:54
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 356 Workjay 22-Jan-13 16:10
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 246 Anomalies 22-Jan-13 16:32
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 296 Workjay 22-Jan-13 21:06
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 368 Anomalies 23-Jan-13 14:53
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 334 Workjay 23-Jan-13 21:10
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 339 Anomalies 23-Jan-13 21:51
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 326 Workjay 23-Jan-13 22:58
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 293 richarddullum 24-Jan-13 02:21
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 297 Workjay 24-Jan-13 02:46
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 256 richarddullum 24-Jan-13 14:33
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 348 Aine 24-Jan-13 13:00
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 329 richarddullum 25-Jan-13 01:57
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 298 Susan Doris 27-Jan-13 13:02
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 362 Susan Doris 02-Feb-13 14:01
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 325 Anomalies 05-Feb-13 15:41
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 309 Workjay 05-Feb-13 17:39
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 341 Anomalies 05-Feb-13 21:25
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 343 Workjay 06-Feb-13 17:31
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 336 Ratcho 06-Feb-13 19:02
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 310 Anomalies 06-Feb-13 21:54
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 297 Workjay 06-Feb-13 22:19
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 227 cladking 22-Jan-13 16:29
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 221 Anomalies 21-Jan-13 16:07
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 229 Workjay 21-Jan-13 16:13
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 203 carolb 21-Jan-13 17:52
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 212 Anomalies 21-Jan-13 18:00
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 228 carolb 21-Jan-13 18:05
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 218 Anomalies 21-Jan-13 19:01
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 235 carolb 21-Jan-13 19:07
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 224 Anomalies 21-Jan-13 19:21
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 247 carolb 21-Jan-13 19:42
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 217 Anomalies 21-Jan-13 19:58
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 223 carolb 21-Jan-13 20:17
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 207 Anomalies 21-Jan-13 20:27
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 228 Susan Doris 14-Feb-13 14:42
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 210 Anomalies 22-Jan-13 14:50
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 190 wordsmyth 23-Jan-13 08:35
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 227 Workjay 22-Jan-13 02:20
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 232 richarddullum 22-Jan-13 14:31
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 259 Aine 22-Jan-13 14:49
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 230 Anomalies 22-Jan-13 14:56
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 275 Aine 22-Jan-13 15:29
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 280 Aine 22-Jan-13 15:47
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 211 Anomalies 22-Jan-13 16:08
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 296 Aine 22-Jan-13 16:23
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 282 Aine 22-Jan-13 16:24
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 270 richarddullum 23-Jan-13 04:50
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 227 wordsmyth 23-Jan-13 08:52
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 222 richarddullum 23-Jan-13 14:28
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 258 wordsmyth 23-Jan-13 15:19
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 289 Aine 23-Jan-13 15:42
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 211 richarddullum 24-Jan-13 02:03
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 262 Aine 23-Jan-13 14:39
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 255 wordsmyth 23-Jan-13 15:09
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 290 Aine 24-Jan-13 13:19
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 237 wordsmyth 25-Jan-13 05:08
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 235 Glorious 25-Jan-13 05:49
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 298 Susan Doris 25-Jan-13 06:47
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 208 wordsmyth 25-Jan-13 07:03
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 231 Glorious 25-Jan-13 07:32
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 207 wordsmyth 25-Jan-13 08:09
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 192 cladking 25-Jan-13 16:32
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 232 Susan Doris 23-Jan-13 06:54
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 240 Glorious 23-Jan-13 07:43
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 284 Aine 23-Jan-13 14:47
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 245 BobbyH 22-Jan-13 19:21
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 261 Aine 22-Jan-13 19:41
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 227 BobbyH 22-Jan-13 19:56
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 273 Aine 22-Jan-13 19:59
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 292 Aine 22-Jan-13 20:09
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 261 Glorious 22-Jan-13 20:52
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 228 BobbyH 22-Jan-13 14:57
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 225 Workjay 22-Jan-13 15:08
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 243 BobbyH 22-Jan-13 15:41
Episode: "Destination Orion" was very well done 225 David L 17-Jan-13 17:35
Re: Episode: "Destination Orion" was very well done 212 Thomas Brophy 03-Mar-13 23:30
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 141 wordsmyth 23-Jan-13 08:10
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 259 Archae Solenhofen 25-Jan-13 03:28
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 252 wordsmyth 25-Jan-13 06:32
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 315 Thanos5150 25-Jan-13 18:22
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 236 Sangreal Sea 25-Jan-13 19:11
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 240 Warwick 11-Feb-13 22:32
The latest episode "Alien Abductions" is the most absurd yet 213 David L 23-Feb-13 23:41
Re: The latest episode "Alien Abductions" is the most absurd yet 216 Anomalies 25-Feb-13 19:00
Re: The latest episode "Alien Abductions" is the most absurd yet 168 David L 26-Feb-13 01:44
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 154 LanceHall 23-Mar-13 00:28


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