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How is it a "straw man" when numerous fringe authors are claming granite can only be scratched with diamond?

Because I'm not claiming it, nor is anyone in the video which I specifically wanted to debate about. On the other hand, you incessantly bring it up, on five different occasions already in this brief exchange, six including the above, and then you proceed to refute it. This behavior being the very definition of a strawman, a false argument created to misrepresent an opponent's position. FYI, I guess...

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This false notion in its various forms is a key aspect of spreading advanced technology claims through many fringe media of this sort.

Hilarious! I mean, seriously, if you think that's one of the "key aspects" to the ancient advanced-technology theory, well, then I feel embarrassed for you because after ten years, I would think you had a better grasp on your opponent's position than THAT...

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What technology was that.... specific examples of such

Did you forget what we were talking about? I was generally referring to your useless examples of "simple technology". More specifically, I was referring to your wonderful home-made drill made from a popsicle stick, rubber band, and kitty litter.

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(BTW that is not the stone products claimed to be made by such, but the actual technology that produced them)? I suggest finding it somewhere in Nicholson & Shaw (2000). Good luck in that because it is pretty clear it's not there.

That's wonderful. Unfortunately, I don't care. But anyway, nice try suggesting what my argument should be and where I should go to find out your suggested argument is wrong.

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Maybe you think you can get away with claiming these lost ones were extremely tidy, but I doubt it.

So then, you are unaware of the fact that the only materials that don't corrode, degrade, and/or decompose within about 500 years are solid stone and solid gold? Not to mention, the older a civilization is, the less there is artifact-wise, mainly because the archaeological record preserves only a very small fraction of objects that somehow manage to get buried in the first place. Just to name a few of the more obvious reasons...

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I belive I have asked Mr. Dunn if his spiraling scratch is visible on the image below and I also asked him to mark its location on such so we can all see what he was measuring and I am still waiting (it will be10 years on the 26th of January).

Did he have to file a restraining order against you then?

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As pointed out by Mr. Dunn, and should be quite clear from the photo below, some of Petrie's observation about such are not consistent with reality.

To an expert, much less a layman, nothing is "clear" from that photo. Sorry.

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Does he also believe that granite can only be scratched with diamond?

Seven times now.

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The bow-drill experiments of Stocks (1993, 2003) cut granite into a tapered core, it rough polished the sides, and it produced striations on the surface.

Let's see a video then. Like I specifically requested.

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So all the fringe have is the megaliths and little to nothing else other than gross exaggeration about such, like clams of 100s of 200+ ton blocks and 2.5 million blocks with 0.01 tolerances?

I think you are forgetting about the team of Japanese engineers who scientifically proved that they could not build a 1/10 scale replica of the Great Pyramid (a measly 48 feet tall) neither with ancient technology nor modern technology. Among other things...

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Don't tell me ..... go tell the fringe authors claiming granite can only be scratched with diamond.

Eight times now.

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Did not Mr. Stocks do experiments using known/deduced ancient Egyptian technology?

Did you provide a video of these experiments, as requested? Because what is claimed to be possible on paper with most Egyptologists ignorant of basic engineering is usually harder to prove in reality.

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Ya, that's right, fringe authors insinuate that granite is equal to the hardest substance known, state the known ancients of orthodox archeology didn’t have access to diamond, invoke some unkown advanced technology to fill the imaginary void produced by such, and then hide behind the inability to test the claim.

How old are you? The reason I ask is because I have a strict policy against arguing with teenage boys and I'm starting to think your anonymous internet career as "Archae" might have began around the age of nine with some Egyptologist-Cub-Scout kind of organization, especially in light of your nom de plume...

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Lubicz role is mentioned in a number of Dr. Schoch’s publications as well Mr. West’s.

So then, about that citation you forgot to provide (again)...

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How about to correct your original construction, which was wrong..... if you don’t like it get it right first the next time.

I asked for a citation to a scholarly article about water erosion on the Sphinx prior to Schoch. Which has nothing to do with your (so-called) "correction". Sorry.

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It's pretty clear from the actual penetrations into the core masonry of the GP that it is masonry fill and not finely carved blocks... Care to enlighten us as to where your now clearly imaginary claim about "millions of 2.5 ton blocks with tolerances of .010 inch" popped into existence from?

So then, do you want to try again? Perhaps with a picture of your new-and-improved position. Since that picture you linked to is completely unrelated the above claim. The claim you've now suddenly changed your tune about.

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I was under the impression you thought exaggeration of block weights were lies and anyone who grossly exaggerated those weights were liars....

Somehow you managed to be just as incoherent as before. Perhaps you should try saying the whole thing completely differently. Preferably with a point, too, this time. Thanks in advance!

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>But seriously, I repeat: Why should anyone take an anonymous
>person, who is hiding behind a fake name and whose
>age/expertise is completely unknown, seriously about any of
>these topics? Someone who professes certainty that it was done
>with "simple technology", despite the obvious fact such
>certainty is clearly lacking? Someone who can barely manage to
>make a credible case for their position STRICTLY arguing
>against the most far-out claims of the Ancient Alien
>proponents? Please, enlighten me...

Do you really think that only "far-out" ancient Alien proponents are making these types of claims? Apparently you missed the section on stone enigmas in Fingerprints of the Gods.

So then, what you mean to say is that there is no good reason to take some anonymous random person seriously, one who constantly misrepresents his opponents arguments, incessantly brings up the same strawmen every chance he gets, and also suggest arguments for his opponents and then proves them wrong in the same sentence... Glad to know I can finally wash my hands of this sad excuse for a "debate"...

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It's clear to me you didn't bother to actually look at the image I just posted..... care to guess what it weighed as a larger block in the quarry before in was moved so it could be carved into a 600+ ton column of granite and perched so precariously on it's large base? You were the one going on about the Russians lying about a block weight they moved, so can you tell us what they were also lying about here?

You mean the Alexander column erected in 1830? Quarried with nineteenth century equipment, transported by barge, then placed upright by 3000 men AFTER it had been delivered to St. Petersburg? Kind of a bad example, given its meager weight and the amount of modern technology involved, don't you think?

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Because you were asking for one...

"Anyway, if any of those involved with this program are on these boards, I'd be more than happy to debate you on this subject (even though I'm not an ancient alien proponent, I am convinced of a technologically-advanced culture in our remote past). And if they aren't on here, I'll gladly extend that offer to anyone who thinks this program is remotely accurate and/or honest. Cheers."

Notice the debate request was specifically about the 'Ancient Aliens Debunked' program and/or those involved with it, the video you said you haven't watched yet? Not to mention, based on the amount of strawmen you bring up and then refute, I don't really think my involvement is necessary in your debate with yourself here. (Although this is still kind of fun. But just barely...)

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Enlighten us as to why it's funny...... remember it's not because granite can only be scratched with diamond (that is not funny either).

Is that nine times, or ten? I've lost count... But seriously, I have to say that continuing this pitiful excuse for a "debate" is highly unlikely. Of course, feel free to continue it with yourself, but from here forward it will be a little bit different for you, as I probably won't be replying to much of what you have to say. (Not much different, I imagine.) But anyway, I'm confident you can defeat yourself, with the proper strategy and some dumb luck, of course... Cheers.



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Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 310 Citizen Attorney 05-Jan-13 00:24
Debunker debunked? 350 drrayeye 05-Jan-13 05:15
Aliens is making people re-evaluate certain paradigms 422 Ratcho 05-Jan-13 06:22
How is it possible? 331 gulsbo 05-Jan-13 16:16
Entertainment industry rules OK; thumbs down to education 278 Richard Fusniak 05-Jan-13 16:57
Re: Entertainment industry rules OK; thumbs down to education 365 gulsbo 06-Jan-13 08:03
Re: Entertainment industry rules OK; thumbs down to education 326 Richard Fusniak 06-Jan-13 08:59
Re: Entertainment industry rules OK; thumbs down to education 344 gulsbo 07-Jan-13 21:07
Re: Entertainment industry rules OK; thumbs down to education 371 Richard Fusniak 08-Jan-13 00:36
Fuzzy 289 Dan Mc F 08-Jan-13 12:49
Re: Fuzzy 348 Richard Fusniak 08-Jan-13 13:12
Re: Entertainment industry rules OK; thumbs down to education 281 gulsbo 09-Jan-13 21:36
Re: Smithsonian never lies.... 495 Thunderbird 23-Mar-13 03:39
who said aliens 322 Citizen Attorney 05-Jan-13 16:42
Re: who said aliens 330 David L 05-Jan-13 17:42
Re: who said aliens 367 Citizen Attorney 05-Jan-13 21:23
Agreed 355 NetWorkAngel 05-Jan-13 22:05
Re: Agreed 317 Citizen Attorney 06-Jan-13 19:16
Re: who said aliens 357 David L 07-Jan-13 01:16
Re: who said aliens 387 Thanos5150 06-Jan-13 18:38
Re: who said aliens 305 Citizen Attorney 06-Jan-13 19:17
Re: who said aliens 398 Thanos5150 06-Jan-13 22:45
Ancient Aliens' Debunked - Review 646 Thanos5150 07-Jan-13 02:23
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 364 MJT 08-Jan-13 13:58
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 343 Susan Doris 08-Jan-13 14:33
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 368 Richard Fusniak 08-Jan-13 15:19
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 409 Bobajot 10-Jan-13 04:01
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 392 wordsmyth 13-Jan-13 03:26
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 344 Archae Solenhofen 13-Jan-13 04:53
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 337 wordsmyth 15-Jan-13 01:44
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 376 richarddullum 15-Jan-13 03:28
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 311 wordsmyth 15-Jan-13 07:12
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Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 359 Merrell 15-Jan-13 10:55
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 390 Archae Solenhofen 15-Jan-13 05:21
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 420 wordsmyth 15-Jan-13 08:24
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 338 Merrell 15-Jan-13 09:55
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 397 wordsmyth 15-Jan-13 10:26
Re: Archae Solenhofen = "Ancient Limestone" 387 Thanos5150 15-Jan-13 17:39
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 358 Archae Solenhofen 15-Jan-13 19:09
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 361 wordsmyth 15-Jan-13 22:26
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 317 Archae Solenhofen 16-Jan-13 03:29
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Re: Vyse Good.....alternative....Evil 337 Martin Stower 23-Feb-13 15:38
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Re: Vyse Good.....alternative....Evil 383 wordsmyth 24-Feb-13 22:36
Re: Vyse Good.....alternative....Evil 358 Ratcho 24-Feb-13 22:49
Re: Vyse Good.....alternative....Evil 373 Thanos5150 24-Feb-13 23:50
Re: Vyse Good.....alternative....Evil 341 Scott Creighton 25-Feb-13 00:18
Re: Vyse Good.....alternative....Evil 423 Martin Stower 25-Feb-13 17:57
Re: desperation.... 383 Thunderbird 25-Feb-13 21:20
Re: desperation.... 310 Martin Stower 26-Feb-13 15:47
Re: Khufu cartouche Cambell's chamber 391 Thunderbird 18-Mar-13 17:33
Re: Vyse Good.....alternative....Evil 350 wordsmyth 25-Feb-13 22:25
Re: Vyse Good.....alternative....Evil 356 Martin Stower 26-Feb-13 15:59
Re: Vyse Good.....alternative....Evil 346 wordsmyth 26-Feb-13 21:41
Re: Vyse Good.....alternative....Evil 360 Thanos5150 26-Feb-13 18:57
Re: Vyse Good.....alternative....Evil 364 Martin Stower 27-Feb-13 18:46
Re: Vyse Good.....alternative....Evil 280 Thanos5150 27-Feb-13 21:26
Re: Vyse Good.....alternative....Evil 361 Martin Stower 28-Feb-13 16:57
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Re: Vyse Good.....alternative....Evil 343 Martin Stower 28-Feb-13 18:08
Re: Vyse Good.....alternative....Evil 373 Merrell 28-Feb-13 09:33
Re: Can we seriously believe that Alford has a clue.... 360 Thunderbird 25-Feb-13 16:41
Re: Can we seriously believe that Alford has a clue.... 381 Martin Stower 25-Feb-13 18:29
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 357 Archae Solenhofen 15-Jan-13 18:41
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 326 Thanos5150 15-Jan-13 22:13
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 335 Archae Solenhofen 15-Jan-13 22:44
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 415 Thanos5150 16-Jan-13 04:40
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 330 Archae Solenhofen 16-Jan-13 06:02
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 370 Thanos5150 16-Jan-13 06:54
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 391 Archae Solenhofen 16-Jan-13 09:09
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 320 Thanos5150 16-Jan-13 17:52
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 355 Archae Solenhofen 16-Jan-13 20:21
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 380 Thanos5150 16-Jan-13 21:21
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 280 Archae Solenhofen 17-Jan-13 04:57
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 358 Thanos5150 17-Jan-13 05:42
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 359 Archae Solenhofen 17-Jan-13 07:05
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Re: Fingerprints 1996 - 200 ton blocks 352 Archae Solenhofen 17-Jan-13 17:44
Re: Fingerprints 1996 - 200 ton blocks 206 Archae Solenhofen 17-Jan-13 22:41
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Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 383 Thanos5150 17-Jan-13 23:46
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 355 wordsmyth 18-Jan-13 03:45
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Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 355 Archae Solenhofen 18-Jan-13 03:57
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Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 374 Susan Doris 06-Feb-13 06:50
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Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 352 wordsmyth 16-Jan-13 06:30
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Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 339 Archae Solenhofen 17-Jan-13 05:10
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Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 354 Archae Solenhofen 16-Jan-13 17:11
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Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 344 cladking 16-Jan-13 21:06
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 281 Archae Solenhofen 16-Jan-13 21:17
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Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 313 Archae Solenhofen 23-Feb-13 04:49
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 368 Bobajot 23-Feb-13 12:31
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 357 Archae Solenhofen 23-Feb-13 20:25
Science Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 342 cladking 23-Feb-13 21:29
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 331 Bobajot 24-Feb-13 02:34
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 332 Archae Solenhofen 25-Feb-13 20:21
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 345 Bobajot 26-Feb-13 03:01
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 279 wordsmyth 23-Feb-13 21:21
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 317 Thanos5150 23-Feb-13 21:32
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 287 Thanos5150 23-Feb-13 22:10
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 325 wordsmyth 23-Feb-13 22:18
We would probably be amazed 256 Ratcho 24-Feb-13 00:52
Re: We would probably be amazed 254 wordsmyth 24-Feb-13 03:48
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 320 Archae Solenhofen 24-Feb-13 01:50
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 338 wordsmyth 24-Feb-13 02:44
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 315 wordsmyth 23-Feb-13 05:18
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 301 Archae Solenhofen 23-Feb-13 04:41
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 255 Archae Solenhofen 20-Feb-13 02:11
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 334 cladking 20-Feb-13 04:08
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 369 Thanos5150 22-Feb-13 05:31
I've tried hardened steel chisels 323 Ratcho 22-Feb-13 06:15
Re: I've tried hardened steel chisels 297 Susan Doris 22-Feb-13 07:15
Re: I've tried hardened steel chisels 331 Ratcho 22-Feb-13 17:51
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 339 Archae Solenhofen 23-Feb-13 05:15
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 326 cladking 23-Feb-13 15:13
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 183 Thanos5150 23-Feb-13 20:57
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 418 Archae Solenhofen 25-Feb-13 20:14
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 331 Susan Doris 24-Feb-13 15:49
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 341 wordsmyth 24-Feb-13 22:30
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 359 wordsmyth 20-Feb-13 02:22
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 341 Archae Solenhofen 20-Feb-13 03:47
How many swings would it take 360 Ratcho 20-Feb-13 06:29
Re: How many swings would it take 294 Susan Doris 20-Feb-13 17:31
Re: How many swings would it take 330 cladking 20-Feb-13 21:24
If you have the time... 304 Ratcho 22-Feb-13 22:48
Re: How many swings would it take 351 Archae Solenhofen 20-Feb-13 18:14
Re: How many swings would it take 281 cladking 20-Feb-13 21:30
Re: How many swings would it take 365 wordsmyth 21-Feb-13 08:39
Re: How many swings would it take 374 Scott Creighton 21-Feb-13 08:45
Re: How many swings would it take 310 Archae Solenhofen 21-Feb-13 17:32
Re: How many swings would it take 323 Scott Creighton 21-Feb-13 18:04
Re: How many swings would it take 295 Archae Solenhofen 21-Feb-13 19:55
Re: How many swings would it take 304 Scott Creighton 21-Feb-13 21:40
I'd still like to know 309 Ratcho 21-Feb-13 22:02
Re: I'd still like to know 340 Archae Solenhofen 21-Feb-13 22:43
Re: I'd still like to know 300 wordsmyth 21-Feb-13 23:47
Re: I'd still like to know 305 wordsmyth 22-Feb-13 00:10
Re: I'd still like to know 331 Archae Solenhofen 22-Feb-13 00:11
Re: Unfortunately, I'd still don't care... 319 wordsmyth 22-Feb-13 00:31
Re: Unfortunately, I'd still don't care... 345 Archae Solenhofen 22-Feb-13 00:47
Re: Unfortunately, I'd still don't care... 321 wordsmyth 22-Feb-13 07:47
Re: Unfortunately, I'd still don't care... 320 Archae Solenhofen 22-Feb-13 16:42
Re: How many swings would it take 368 wordsmyth 22-Feb-13 00:20
Re: How many swings would it take 263 Susan Doris 21-Feb-13 13:44
Re: How many swings would it take 276 Archae Solenhofen 21-Feb-13 16:09
Re: How many swings would it take 309 Scott Creighton 21-Feb-13 18:59
Re: How many swings would it take 329 Archae Solenhofen 21-Feb-13 20:06
Re: How many swings would it take 311 Scott Creighton 21-Feb-13 21:43
Re: How many swings would it take 313 Archae Solenhofen 21-Feb-13 22:22
Re: How many swings would it take 307 Scott Creighton 21-Feb-13 22:30
Re: How many swings would it take 304 Archae Solenhofen 21-Feb-13 22:48
Re: How many swings would it take 329 Morten 22-Feb-13 10:52
Re: How many swings would it take 315 wordsmyth 22-Feb-13 23:30
Re: How many swings would it take 432 Scott Creighton 21-Feb-13 22:55
Mod Note > Off Topic Sub-Thread 205 Dr. Troglodyte 22-Feb-13 00:01
Re: How many swings would it take 316 richarddullum 22-Feb-13 03:20
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 273 Audrey 13-Feb-13 23:21
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 330 Susan Doris 14-Feb-13 14:59
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 275 cladking 14-Feb-13 16:07
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 333 Archae Solenhofen 14-Feb-13 15:29
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 336 cladking 14-Feb-13 16:14
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 362 Archae Solenhofen 14-Feb-13 16:41
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 306 cladking 14-Feb-13 18:57
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 326 Thanos5150 20-Jan-13 19:04
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 262 Workjay 21-Jan-13 02:42
Re: Myth and Truth 305 Thunderbird 20-Jan-13 17:33
Re: Myth and Truth 336 wordsmyth 20-Jan-13 18:34
Re: Myth and Truth 349 cladking 20-Jan-13 22:30
Re: Myth and Truth 368 Glorious 20-Jan-13 23:31
Re: Myth and Truth 333 cladking 21-Jan-13 00:26
Re: Perception 449 Thunderbird 21-Jan-13 04:15
Re: Perception 345 Glorious 21-Jan-13 05:34
Re: Perception 291 Chris Jordan 21-Jan-13 07:45
Re: Perception 332 loveritas 21-Jan-13 11:32
Re: Change of Perception 356 Chris Jordan 21-Jan-13 16:20
Re: words/music /NT 254 Thunderbird 21-Jan-13 04:45
Re: words/music /NT 330 wordsmyth 23-Jan-13 08:14
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 342 Anomalies 21-Jan-13 16:53
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 313 Workjay 21-Jan-13 17:59
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 318 Anomalies 21-Jan-13 18:13
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 359 Susan Doris 28-Jan-13 16:29
Who knew? 338 cladking 28-Jan-13 22:07
Re: Who knew? 453 Susan Doris 01-Feb-13 18:25
Re: Who knew? 324 cladking 01-Feb-13 20:42
Egyptology Debunked; they wouldn't know a snake if it bit them. 353 cladking 28-Jan-13 21:04
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 292 cladking 21-Jan-13 18:16
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 310 Anomalies 22-Jan-13 15:09
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 246 cladking 22-Jan-13 15:39
'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 327 Anomalies 22-Jan-13 15:54
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 344 Workjay 22-Jan-13 16:10
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 228 Anomalies 22-Jan-13 16:32
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 280 Workjay 22-Jan-13 21:06
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 351 Anomalies 23-Jan-13 14:53
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 306 Workjay 23-Jan-13 21:10
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 316 Anomalies 23-Jan-13 21:51
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 310 Workjay 23-Jan-13 22:58
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 283 richarddullum 24-Jan-13 02:21
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 284 Workjay 24-Jan-13 02:46
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 244 richarddullum 24-Jan-13 14:33
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 330 Aine 24-Jan-13 13:00
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 313 richarddullum 25-Jan-13 01:57
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 281 Susan Doris 27-Jan-13 13:02
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 338 Susan Doris 02-Feb-13 14:01
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 313 Anomalies 05-Feb-13 15:41
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 294 Workjay 05-Feb-13 17:39
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 328 Anomalies 05-Feb-13 21:25
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 329 Workjay 06-Feb-13 17:31
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 310 Ratcho 06-Feb-13 19:02
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 282 Anomalies 06-Feb-13 21:54
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 277 Workjay 06-Feb-13 22:19
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 210 cladking 22-Jan-13 16:29
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 204 Anomalies 21-Jan-13 16:07
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 207 Workjay 21-Jan-13 16:13
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 190 carolb 21-Jan-13 17:52
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 196 Anomalies 21-Jan-13 18:00
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 188 carolb 21-Jan-13 18:05
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 206 Anomalies 21-Jan-13 19:01
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 217 carolb 21-Jan-13 19:07
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 201 Anomalies 21-Jan-13 19:21
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 225 carolb 21-Jan-13 19:42
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 189 Anomalies 21-Jan-13 19:58
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 211 carolb 21-Jan-13 20:17
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 196 Anomalies 21-Jan-13 20:27
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 215 Susan Doris 14-Feb-13 14:42
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 196 Anomalies 22-Jan-13 14:50
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 175 wordsmyth 23-Jan-13 08:35
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 208 Workjay 22-Jan-13 02:20
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 207 richarddullum 22-Jan-13 14:31
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 243 Aine 22-Jan-13 14:49
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 210 Anomalies 22-Jan-13 14:56
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 255 Aine 22-Jan-13 15:29
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 262 Aine 22-Jan-13 15:47
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 197 Anomalies 22-Jan-13 16:08
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 280 Aine 22-Jan-13 16:23
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 266 Aine 22-Jan-13 16:24
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 256 richarddullum 23-Jan-13 04:50
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 203 wordsmyth 23-Jan-13 08:52
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 208 richarddullum 23-Jan-13 14:28
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 236 wordsmyth 23-Jan-13 15:19
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 271 Aine 23-Jan-13 15:42
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 195 richarddullum 24-Jan-13 02:03
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 252 Aine 23-Jan-13 14:39
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 235 wordsmyth 23-Jan-13 15:09
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 271 Aine 24-Jan-13 13:19
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 222 wordsmyth 25-Jan-13 05:08
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 219 Glorious 25-Jan-13 05:49
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 257 Susan Doris 25-Jan-13 06:47
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 196 wordsmyth 25-Jan-13 07:03
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 198 Glorious 25-Jan-13 07:32
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 186 wordsmyth 25-Jan-13 08:09
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 179 cladking 25-Jan-13 16:32
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 206 Susan Doris 23-Jan-13 06:54
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 221 Glorious 23-Jan-13 07:43
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 268 Aine 23-Jan-13 14:47
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 228 BobbyH 22-Jan-13 19:21
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 251 Aine 22-Jan-13 19:41
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 209 BobbyH 22-Jan-13 19:56
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 255 Aine 22-Jan-13 19:59
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 265 Aine 22-Jan-13 20:09
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 233 Glorious 22-Jan-13 20:52
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 205 BobbyH 22-Jan-13 14:57
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 207 Workjay 22-Jan-13 15:08
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 220 BobbyH 22-Jan-13 15:41
Episode: "Destination Orion" was very well done 206 David L 17-Jan-13 17:35
Re: Episode: "Destination Orion" was very well done 187 Thomas Brophy 03-Mar-13 23:30
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 131 wordsmyth 23-Jan-13 08:10
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 244 Archae Solenhofen 25-Jan-13 03:28
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 235 wordsmyth 25-Jan-13 06:32
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 293 Thanos5150 25-Jan-13 18:22
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 219 Sangreal Sea 25-Jan-13 19:11
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 216 Warwick 11-Feb-13 22:32
The latest episode "Alien Abductions" is the most absurd yet 194 David L 23-Feb-13 23:41
Re: The latest episode "Alien Abductions" is the most absurd yet 195 Anomalies 25-Feb-13 19:00
Re: The latest episode "Alien Abductions" is the most absurd yet 153 David L 26-Feb-13 01:44
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 135 LanceHall 23-Mar-13 00:28


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