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How is it a "straw man" when numerous fringe authors are claming granite can only be scratched with diamond?

Because I'm not claiming it, nor is anyone in the video which I specifically wanted to debate about. On the other hand, you incessantly bring it up, on five different occasions already in this brief exchange, six including the above, and then you proceed to refute it. This behavior being the very definition of a strawman, a false argument created to misrepresent an opponent's position. FYI, I guess...

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This false notion in its various forms is a key aspect of spreading advanced technology claims through many fringe media of this sort.

Hilarious! I mean, seriously, if you think that's one of the "key aspects" to the ancient advanced-technology theory, well, then I feel embarrassed for you because after ten years, I would think you had a better grasp on your opponent's position than THAT...

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What technology was that.... specific examples of such

Did you forget what we were talking about? I was generally referring to your useless examples of "simple technology". More specifically, I was referring to your wonderful home-made drill made from a popsicle stick, rubber band, and kitty litter.

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(BTW that is not the stone products claimed to be made by such, but the actual technology that produced them)? I suggest finding it somewhere in Nicholson & Shaw (2000). Good luck in that because it is pretty clear it's not there.

That's wonderful. Unfortunately, I don't care. But anyway, nice try suggesting what my argument should be and where I should go to find out your suggested argument is wrong.

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Maybe you think you can get away with claiming these lost ones were extremely tidy, but I doubt it.

So then, you are unaware of the fact that the only materials that don't corrode, degrade, and/or decompose within about 500 years are solid stone and solid gold? Not to mention, the older a civilization is, the less there is artifact-wise, mainly because the archaeological record preserves only a very small fraction of objects that somehow manage to get buried in the first place. Just to name a few of the more obvious reasons...

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I belive I have asked Mr. Dunn if his spiraling scratch is visible on the image below and I also asked him to mark its location on such so we can all see what he was measuring and I am still waiting (it will be10 years on the 26th of January).

Did he have to file a restraining order against you then?

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As pointed out by Mr. Dunn, and should be quite clear from the photo below, some of Petrie's observation about such are not consistent with reality.

To an expert, much less a layman, nothing is "clear" from that photo. Sorry.

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Does he also believe that granite can only be scratched with diamond?

Seven times now.

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The bow-drill experiments of Stocks (1993, 2003) cut granite into a tapered core, it rough polished the sides, and it produced striations on the surface.

Let's see a video then. Like I specifically requested.

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So all the fringe have is the megaliths and little to nothing else other than gross exaggeration about such, like clams of 100s of 200+ ton blocks and 2.5 million blocks with 0.01 tolerances?

I think you are forgetting about the team of Japanese engineers who scientifically proved that they could not build a 1/10 scale replica of the Great Pyramid (a measly 48 feet tall) neither with ancient technology nor modern technology. Among other things...

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Don't tell me ..... go tell the fringe authors claiming granite can only be scratched with diamond.

Eight times now.

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Did not Mr. Stocks do experiments using known/deduced ancient Egyptian technology?

Did you provide a video of these experiments, as requested? Because what is claimed to be possible on paper with most Egyptologists ignorant of basic engineering is usually harder to prove in reality.

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Ya, that's right, fringe authors insinuate that granite is equal to the hardest substance known, state the known ancients of orthodox archeology didn’t have access to diamond, invoke some unkown advanced technology to fill the imaginary void produced by such, and then hide behind the inability to test the claim.

How old are you? The reason I ask is because I have a strict policy against arguing with teenage boys and I'm starting to think your anonymous internet career as "Archae" might have began around the age of nine with some Egyptologist-Cub-Scout kind of organization, especially in light of your nom de plume...

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Lubicz role is mentioned in a number of Dr. Schoch’s publications as well Mr. West’s.

So then, about that citation you forgot to provide (again)...

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How about to correct your original construction, which was wrong..... if you don’t like it get it right first the next time.

I asked for a citation to a scholarly article about water erosion on the Sphinx prior to Schoch. Which has nothing to do with your (so-called) "correction". Sorry.

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It's pretty clear from the actual penetrations into the core masonry of the GP that it is masonry fill and not finely carved blocks... Care to enlighten us as to where your now clearly imaginary claim about "millions of 2.5 ton blocks with tolerances of .010 inch" popped into existence from?

So then, do you want to try again? Perhaps with a picture of your new-and-improved position. Since that picture you linked to is completely unrelated the above claim. The claim you've now suddenly changed your tune about.

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I was under the impression you thought exaggeration of block weights were lies and anyone who grossly exaggerated those weights were liars....

Somehow you managed to be just as incoherent as before. Perhaps you should try saying the whole thing completely differently. Preferably with a point, too, this time. Thanks in advance!

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>But seriously, I repeat: Why should anyone take an anonymous
>person, who is hiding behind a fake name and whose
>age/expertise is completely unknown, seriously about any of
>these topics? Someone who professes certainty that it was done
>with "simple technology", despite the obvious fact such
>certainty is clearly lacking? Someone who can barely manage to
>make a credible case for their position STRICTLY arguing
>against the most far-out claims of the Ancient Alien
>proponents? Please, enlighten me...

Do you really think that only "far-out" ancient Alien proponents are making these types of claims? Apparently you missed the section on stone enigmas in Fingerprints of the Gods.

So then, what you mean to say is that there is no good reason to take some anonymous random person seriously, one who constantly misrepresents his opponents arguments, incessantly brings up the same strawmen every chance he gets, and also suggest arguments for his opponents and then proves them wrong in the same sentence... Glad to know I can finally wash my hands of this sad excuse for a "debate"...

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It's clear to me you didn't bother to actually look at the image I just posted..... care to guess what it weighed as a larger block in the quarry before in was moved so it could be carved into a 600+ ton column of granite and perched so precariously on it's large base? You were the one going on about the Russians lying about a block weight they moved, so can you tell us what they were also lying about here?

You mean the Alexander column erected in 1830? Quarried with nineteenth century equipment, transported by barge, then placed upright by 3000 men AFTER it had been delivered to St. Petersburg? Kind of a bad example, given its meager weight and the amount of modern technology involved, don't you think?

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Because you were asking for one...

"Anyway, if any of those involved with this program are on these boards, I'd be more than happy to debate you on this subject (even though I'm not an ancient alien proponent, I am convinced of a technologically-advanced culture in our remote past). And if they aren't on here, I'll gladly extend that offer to anyone who thinks this program is remotely accurate and/or honest. Cheers."

Notice the debate request was specifically about the 'Ancient Aliens Debunked' program and/or those involved with it, the video you said you haven't watched yet? Not to mention, based on the amount of strawmen you bring up and then refute, I don't really think my involvement is necessary in your debate with yourself here. (Although this is still kind of fun. But just barely...)

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Enlighten us as to why it's funny...... remember it's not because granite can only be scratched with diamond (that is not funny either).

Is that nine times, or ten? I've lost count... But seriously, I have to say that continuing this pitiful excuse for a "debate" is highly unlikely. Of course, feel free to continue it with yourself, but from here forward it will be a little bit different for you, as I probably won't be replying to much of what you have to say. (Not much different, I imagine.) But anyway, I'm confident you can defeat yourself, with the proper strategy and some dumb luck, of course... Cheers.



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Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 339 Citizen Attorney 05-Jan-13 00:24
Debunker debunked? 383 drrayeye 05-Jan-13 05:15
Aliens is making people re-evaluate certain paradigms 459 Ratcho 05-Jan-13 06:22
How is it possible? 349 gulsbo 05-Jan-13 16:16
Entertainment industry rules OK; thumbs down to education 297 Richard Fusniak 05-Jan-13 16:57
Re: Entertainment industry rules OK; thumbs down to education 406 gulsbo 06-Jan-13 08:03
Re: Entertainment industry rules OK; thumbs down to education 355 Richard Fusniak 06-Jan-13 08:59
Re: Entertainment industry rules OK; thumbs down to education 365 gulsbo 07-Jan-13 21:07
Re: Entertainment industry rules OK; thumbs down to education 400 Richard Fusniak 08-Jan-13 00:36
Fuzzy 310 Dan Mc F 08-Jan-13 12:49
Re: Fuzzy 373 Richard Fusniak 08-Jan-13 13:12
Re: Entertainment industry rules OK; thumbs down to education 311 gulsbo 09-Jan-13 21:36
Re: Smithsonian never lies.... 517 Thunderbird 23-Mar-13 03:39
who said aliens 357 Citizen Attorney 05-Jan-13 16:42
Re: who said aliens 355 David L 05-Jan-13 17:42
Re: who said aliens 395 Citizen Attorney 05-Jan-13 21:23
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Re: Agreed 341 Citizen Attorney 06-Jan-13 19:16
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Re: who said aliens 421 Thanos5150 06-Jan-13 18:38
Re: who said aliens 330 Citizen Attorney 06-Jan-13 19:17
Re: who said aliens 424 Thanos5150 06-Jan-13 22:45
Ancient Aliens' Debunked - Review 702 Thanos5150 07-Jan-13 02:23
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 392 MJT 08-Jan-13 13:58
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 378 Susan Doris 08-Jan-13 14:33
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Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 425 wordsmyth 13-Jan-13 03:26
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 364 Archae Solenhofen 13-Jan-13 04:53
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 363 wordsmyth 15-Jan-13 01:44
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Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 361 Merrell 15-Jan-13 09:55
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Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 354 Archae Solenhofen 16-Jan-13 03:29
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Re: Vyse Good.....alternative....Evil 375 Martin Stower 26-Feb-13 15:59
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Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 387 Archae Solenhofen 15-Jan-13 18:41
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 356 Thanos5150 15-Jan-13 22:13
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 357 Archae Solenhofen 15-Jan-13 22:44
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 440 Thanos5150 16-Jan-13 04:40
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 352 Archae Solenhofen 16-Jan-13 06:02
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 396 Thanos5150 16-Jan-13 06:54
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 417 Archae Solenhofen 16-Jan-13 09:09
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 361 Thanos5150 16-Jan-13 17:52
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 391 Archae Solenhofen 16-Jan-13 20:21
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 407 Thanos5150 16-Jan-13 21:21
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 307 Archae Solenhofen 17-Jan-13 04:57
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 387 Thanos5150 17-Jan-13 05:42
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 387 Archae Solenhofen 17-Jan-13 07:05
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Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 348 Archae Solenhofen 23-Feb-13 04:49
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 395 Bobajot 23-Feb-13 12:31
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 376 Archae Solenhofen 23-Feb-13 20:25
Science Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 366 cladking 23-Feb-13 21:29
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 359 Bobajot 24-Feb-13 02:34
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 360 Archae Solenhofen 25-Feb-13 20:21
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 366 Bobajot 26-Feb-13 03:01
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 305 wordsmyth 23-Feb-13 21:21
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 337 Thanos5150 23-Feb-13 21:32
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 303 Thanos5150 23-Feb-13 22:10
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 346 wordsmyth 23-Feb-13 22:18
We would probably be amazed 275 Ratcho 24-Feb-13 00:52
Re: We would probably be amazed 270 wordsmyth 24-Feb-13 03:48
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 350 Archae Solenhofen 24-Feb-13 01:50
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 355 wordsmyth 24-Feb-13 02:44
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 334 wordsmyth 23-Feb-13 05:18
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 319 Archae Solenhofen 23-Feb-13 04:41
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 276 Archae Solenhofen 20-Feb-13 02:11
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 362 cladking 20-Feb-13 04:08
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 396 Thanos5150 22-Feb-13 05:31
I've tried hardened steel chisels 342 Ratcho 22-Feb-13 06:15
Re: I've tried hardened steel chisels 316 Susan Doris 22-Feb-13 07:15
Re: I've tried hardened steel chisels 363 Ratcho 22-Feb-13 17:51
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 357 Archae Solenhofen 23-Feb-13 05:15
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 351 cladking 23-Feb-13 15:13
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 204 Thanos5150 23-Feb-13 20:57
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 483 Archae Solenhofen 25-Feb-13 20:14
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 352 Susan Doris 24-Feb-13 15:49
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 363 wordsmyth 24-Feb-13 22:30
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 381 wordsmyth 20-Feb-13 02:22
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 368 Archae Solenhofen 20-Feb-13 03:47
How many swings would it take 378 Ratcho 20-Feb-13 06:29
Re: How many swings would it take 317 Susan Doris 20-Feb-13 17:31
Re: How many swings would it take 370 cladking 20-Feb-13 21:24
If you have the time... 325 Ratcho 22-Feb-13 22:48
Re: How many swings would it take 382 Archae Solenhofen 20-Feb-13 18:14
Re: How many swings would it take 302 cladking 20-Feb-13 21:30
Re: How many swings would it take 386 wordsmyth 21-Feb-13 08:39
Re: How many swings would it take 397 Scott Creighton 21-Feb-13 08:45
Re: How many swings would it take 327 Archae Solenhofen 21-Feb-13 17:32
Re: How many swings would it take 352 Scott Creighton 21-Feb-13 18:04
Re: How many swings would it take 315 Archae Solenhofen 21-Feb-13 19:55
Re: How many swings would it take 335 Scott Creighton 21-Feb-13 21:40
I'd still like to know 330 Ratcho 21-Feb-13 22:02
Re: I'd still like to know 361 Archae Solenhofen 21-Feb-13 22:43
Re: I'd still like to know 322 wordsmyth 21-Feb-13 23:47
Re: I'd still like to know 319 wordsmyth 22-Feb-13 00:10
Re: I'd still like to know 351 Archae Solenhofen 22-Feb-13 00:11
Re: Unfortunately, I'd still don't care... 344 wordsmyth 22-Feb-13 00:31
Re: Unfortunately, I'd still don't care... 360 Archae Solenhofen 22-Feb-13 00:47
Re: Unfortunately, I'd still don't care... 336 wordsmyth 22-Feb-13 07:47
Re: Unfortunately, I'd still don't care... 342 Archae Solenhofen 22-Feb-13 16:42
Re: How many swings would it take 384 wordsmyth 22-Feb-13 00:20
Re: How many swings would it take 282 Susan Doris 21-Feb-13 13:44
Re: How many swings would it take 289 Archae Solenhofen 21-Feb-13 16:09
Re: How many swings would it take 335 Scott Creighton 21-Feb-13 18:59
Re: How many swings would it take 352 Archae Solenhofen 21-Feb-13 20:06
Re: How many swings would it take 336 Scott Creighton 21-Feb-13 21:43
Re: How many swings would it take 346 Archae Solenhofen 21-Feb-13 22:22
Re: How many swings would it take 338 Scott Creighton 21-Feb-13 22:30
Re: How many swings would it take 326 Archae Solenhofen 21-Feb-13 22:48
Re: How many swings would it take 348 Morten 22-Feb-13 10:52
Re: How many swings would it take 337 wordsmyth 22-Feb-13 23:30
Re: How many swings would it take 454 Scott Creighton 21-Feb-13 22:55
Mod Note > Off Topic Sub-Thread 223 Dr. Troglodyte 22-Feb-13 00:01
Re: How many swings would it take 351 richarddullum 22-Feb-13 03:20
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 291 Audrey 13-Feb-13 23:21
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 354 Susan Doris 14-Feb-13 14:59
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 306 cladking 14-Feb-13 16:07
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 361 Archae Solenhofen 14-Feb-13 15:29
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 353 cladking 14-Feb-13 16:14
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 380 Archae Solenhofen 14-Feb-13 16:41
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 326 cladking 14-Feb-13 18:57
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 346 Thanos5150 20-Jan-13 19:04
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 278 Workjay 21-Jan-13 02:42
Re: Myth and Truth 341 Thunderbird 20-Jan-13 17:33
Re: Myth and Truth 354 wordsmyth 20-Jan-13 18:34
Re: Myth and Truth 366 cladking 20-Jan-13 22:30
Re: Myth and Truth 398 Glorious 20-Jan-13 23:31
Re: Myth and Truth 362 cladking 21-Jan-13 00:26
Re: Perception 470 Thunderbird 21-Jan-13 04:15
Re: Perception 370 Glorious 21-Jan-13 05:34
Re: Perception 308 Chris Jordan 21-Jan-13 07:45
Re: Perception 352 loveritas 21-Jan-13 11:32
Re: Change of Perception 373 Chris Jordan 21-Jan-13 16:20
Re: words/music /NT 281 Thunderbird 21-Jan-13 04:45
Re: words/music /NT 355 wordsmyth 23-Jan-13 08:14
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 359 Anomalies 21-Jan-13 16:53
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 342 Workjay 21-Jan-13 17:59
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 340 Anomalies 21-Jan-13 18:13
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 393 Susan Doris 28-Jan-13 16:29
Who knew? 362 cladking 28-Jan-13 22:07
Re: Who knew? 483 Susan Doris 01-Feb-13 18:25
Re: Who knew? 342 cladking 01-Feb-13 20:42
Egyptology Debunked; they wouldn't know a snake if it bit them. 390 cladking 28-Jan-13 21:04
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 324 cladking 21-Jan-13 18:16
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 330 Anomalies 22-Jan-13 15:09
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 279 cladking 22-Jan-13 15:39
'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 345 Anomalies 22-Jan-13 15:54
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 363 Workjay 22-Jan-13 16:10
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 255 Anomalies 22-Jan-13 16:32
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 301 Workjay 22-Jan-13 21:06
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 376 Anomalies 23-Jan-13 14:53
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 340 Workjay 23-Jan-13 21:10
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 344 Anomalies 23-Jan-13 21:51
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 332 Workjay 23-Jan-13 22:58
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 300 richarddullum 24-Jan-13 02:21
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 327 Workjay 24-Jan-13 02:46
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 261 richarddullum 24-Jan-13 14:33
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 356 Aine 24-Jan-13 13:00
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 335 richarddullum 25-Jan-13 01:57
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 303 Susan Doris 27-Jan-13 13:02
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 366 Susan Doris 02-Feb-13 14:01
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 333 Anomalies 05-Feb-13 15:41
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 319 Workjay 05-Feb-13 17:39
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 347 Anomalies 05-Feb-13 21:25
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 352 Workjay 06-Feb-13 17:31
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 345 Ratcho 06-Feb-13 19:02
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 316 Anomalies 06-Feb-13 21:54
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 304 Workjay 06-Feb-13 22:19
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 234 cladking 22-Jan-13 16:29
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 236 Anomalies 21-Jan-13 16:07
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 239 Workjay 21-Jan-13 16:13
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 224 carolb 21-Jan-13 17:52
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 216 Anomalies 21-Jan-13 18:00
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 236 carolb 21-Jan-13 18:05
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 222 Anomalies 21-Jan-13 19:01
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 242 carolb 21-Jan-13 19:07
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 230 Anomalies 21-Jan-13 19:21
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 266 carolb 21-Jan-13 19:42
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 229 Anomalies 21-Jan-13 19:58
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 238 carolb 21-Jan-13 20:17
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 211 Anomalies 21-Jan-13 20:27
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 235 Susan Doris 14-Feb-13 14:42
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 223 Anomalies 22-Jan-13 14:50
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 195 wordsmyth 23-Jan-13 08:35
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 235 Workjay 22-Jan-13 02:20
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 239 richarddullum 22-Jan-13 14:31
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 272 Aine 22-Jan-13 14:49
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 235 Anomalies 22-Jan-13 14:56
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 284 Aine 22-Jan-13 15:29
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 296 Aine 22-Jan-13 15:47
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 217 Anomalies 22-Jan-13 16:08
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 307 Aine 22-Jan-13 16:23
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 288 Aine 22-Jan-13 16:24
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 276 richarddullum 23-Jan-13 04:50
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 234 wordsmyth 23-Jan-13 08:52
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 242 richarddullum 23-Jan-13 14:28
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 265 wordsmyth 23-Jan-13 15:19
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 303 Aine 23-Jan-13 15:42
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 232 richarddullum 24-Jan-13 02:03
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 268 Aine 23-Jan-13 14:39
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 259 wordsmyth 23-Jan-13 15:09
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 294 Aine 24-Jan-13 13:19
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 243 wordsmyth 25-Jan-13 05:08
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 240 Glorious 25-Jan-13 05:49
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 306 Susan Doris 25-Jan-13 06:47
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 218 wordsmyth 25-Jan-13 07:03
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 238 Glorious 25-Jan-13 07:32
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 213 wordsmyth 25-Jan-13 08:09
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 197 cladking 25-Jan-13 16:32
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 237 Susan Doris 23-Jan-13 06:54
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 248 Glorious 23-Jan-13 07:43
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 290 Aine 23-Jan-13 14:47
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 267 BobbyH 22-Jan-13 19:21
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 268 Aine 22-Jan-13 19:41
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 236 BobbyH 22-Jan-13 19:56
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 284 Aine 22-Jan-13 19:59
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 302 Aine 22-Jan-13 20:09
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 269 Glorious 22-Jan-13 20:52
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 235 BobbyH 22-Jan-13 14:57
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 234 Workjay 22-Jan-13 15:08
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 258 BobbyH 22-Jan-13 15:41
Episode: "Destination Orion" was very well done 238 David L 17-Jan-13 17:35
Re: Episode: "Destination Orion" was very well done 232 Thomas Brophy 03-Mar-13 23:30
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 146 wordsmyth 23-Jan-13 08:10
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 273 Archae Solenhofen 25-Jan-13 03:28
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 262 wordsmyth 25-Jan-13 06:32
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 328 Thanos5150 25-Jan-13 18:22
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 242 Sangreal Sea 25-Jan-13 19:11
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 245 Warwick 11-Feb-13 22:32
The latest episode "Alien Abductions" is the most absurd yet 218 David L 23-Feb-13 23:41
Re: The latest episode "Alien Abductions" is the most absurd yet 248 Anomalies 25-Feb-13 19:00
Re: The latest episode "Alien Abductions" is the most absurd yet 176 David L 26-Feb-13 01:44
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 171 LanceHall 23-Mar-13 00:28


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