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How is it a "straw man" when numerous fringe authors are claming granite can only be scratched with diamond?

Because I'm not claiming it, nor is anyone in the video which I specifically wanted to debate about. On the other hand, you incessantly bring it up, on five different occasions already in this brief exchange, six including the above, and then you proceed to refute it. This behavior being the very definition of a strawman, a false argument created to misrepresent an opponent's position. FYI, I guess...

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This false notion in its various forms is a key aspect of spreading advanced technology claims through many fringe media of this sort.

Hilarious! I mean, seriously, if you think that's one of the "key aspects" to the ancient advanced-technology theory, well, then I feel embarrassed for you because after ten years, I would think you had a better grasp on your opponent's position than THAT...

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What technology was that.... specific examples of such

Did you forget what we were talking about? I was generally referring to your useless examples of "simple technology". More specifically, I was referring to your wonderful home-made drill made from a popsicle stick, rubber band, and kitty litter.

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(BTW that is not the stone products claimed to be made by such, but the actual technology that produced them)? I suggest finding it somewhere in Nicholson & Shaw (2000). Good luck in that because it is pretty clear it's not there.

That's wonderful. Unfortunately, I don't care. But anyway, nice try suggesting what my argument should be and where I should go to find out your suggested argument is wrong.

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Maybe you think you can get away with claiming these lost ones were extremely tidy, but I doubt it.

So then, you are unaware of the fact that the only materials that don't corrode, degrade, and/or decompose within about 500 years are solid stone and solid gold? Not to mention, the older a civilization is, the less there is artifact-wise, mainly because the archaeological record preserves only a very small fraction of objects that somehow manage to get buried in the first place. Just to name a few of the more obvious reasons...

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I belive I have asked Mr. Dunn if his spiraling scratch is visible on the image below and I also asked him to mark its location on such so we can all see what he was measuring and I am still waiting (it will be10 years on the 26th of January).

Did he have to file a restraining order against you then?

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As pointed out by Mr. Dunn, and should be quite clear from the photo below, some of Petrie's observation about such are not consistent with reality.

To an expert, much less a layman, nothing is "clear" from that photo. Sorry.

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Does he also believe that granite can only be scratched with diamond?

Seven times now.

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The bow-drill experiments of Stocks (1993, 2003) cut granite into a tapered core, it rough polished the sides, and it produced striations on the surface.

Let's see a video then. Like I specifically requested.

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So all the fringe have is the megaliths and little to nothing else other than gross exaggeration about such, like clams of 100s of 200+ ton blocks and 2.5 million blocks with 0.01 tolerances?

I think you are forgetting about the team of Japanese engineers who scientifically proved that they could not build a 1/10 scale replica of the Great Pyramid (a measly 48 feet tall) neither with ancient technology nor modern technology. Among other things...

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Don't tell me ..... go tell the fringe authors claiming granite can only be scratched with diamond.

Eight times now.

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Did not Mr. Stocks do experiments using known/deduced ancient Egyptian technology?

Did you provide a video of these experiments, as requested? Because what is claimed to be possible on paper with most Egyptologists ignorant of basic engineering is usually harder to prove in reality.

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Ya, that's right, fringe authors insinuate that granite is equal to the hardest substance known, state the known ancients of orthodox archeology didn’t have access to diamond, invoke some unkown advanced technology to fill the imaginary void produced by such, and then hide behind the inability to test the claim.

How old are you? The reason I ask is because I have a strict policy against arguing with teenage boys and I'm starting to think your anonymous internet career as "Archae" might have began around the age of nine with some Egyptologist-Cub-Scout kind of organization, especially in light of your nom de plume...

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Lubicz role is mentioned in a number of Dr. Schoch’s publications as well Mr. West’s.

So then, about that citation you forgot to provide (again)...

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How about to correct your original construction, which was wrong..... if you don’t like it get it right first the next time.

I asked for a citation to a scholarly article about water erosion on the Sphinx prior to Schoch. Which has nothing to do with your (so-called) "correction". Sorry.

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It's pretty clear from the actual penetrations into the core masonry of the GP that it is masonry fill and not finely carved blocks... Care to enlighten us as to where your now clearly imaginary claim about "millions of 2.5 ton blocks with tolerances of .010 inch" popped into existence from?

So then, do you want to try again? Perhaps with a picture of your new-and-improved position. Since that picture you linked to is completely unrelated the above claim. The claim you've now suddenly changed your tune about.

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I was under the impression you thought exaggeration of block weights were lies and anyone who grossly exaggerated those weights were liars....

Somehow you managed to be just as incoherent as before. Perhaps you should try saying the whole thing completely differently. Preferably with a point, too, this time. Thanks in advance!

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>But seriously, I repeat: Why should anyone take an anonymous
>person, who is hiding behind a fake name and whose
>age/expertise is completely unknown, seriously about any of
>these topics? Someone who professes certainty that it was done
>with "simple technology", despite the obvious fact such
>certainty is clearly lacking? Someone who can barely manage to
>make a credible case for their position STRICTLY arguing
>against the most far-out claims of the Ancient Alien
>proponents? Please, enlighten me...

Do you really think that only "far-out" ancient Alien proponents are making these types of claims? Apparently you missed the section on stone enigmas in Fingerprints of the Gods.

So then, what you mean to say is that there is no good reason to take some anonymous random person seriously, one who constantly misrepresents his opponents arguments, incessantly brings up the same strawmen every chance he gets, and also suggest arguments for his opponents and then proves them wrong in the same sentence... Glad to know I can finally wash my hands of this sad excuse for a "debate"...

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It's clear to me you didn't bother to actually look at the image I just posted..... care to guess what it weighed as a larger block in the quarry before in was moved so it could be carved into a 600+ ton column of granite and perched so precariously on it's large base? You were the one going on about the Russians lying about a block weight they moved, so can you tell us what they were also lying about here?

You mean the Alexander column erected in 1830? Quarried with nineteenth century equipment, transported by barge, then placed upright by 3000 men AFTER it had been delivered to St. Petersburg? Kind of a bad example, given its meager weight and the amount of modern technology involved, don't you think?

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Because you were asking for one...

"Anyway, if any of those involved with this program are on these boards, I'd be more than happy to debate you on this subject (even though I'm not an ancient alien proponent, I am convinced of a technologically-advanced culture in our remote past). And if they aren't on here, I'll gladly extend that offer to anyone who thinks this program is remotely accurate and/or honest. Cheers."

Notice the debate request was specifically about the 'Ancient Aliens Debunked' program and/or those involved with it, the video you said you haven't watched yet? Not to mention, based on the amount of strawmen you bring up and then refute, I don't really think my involvement is necessary in your debate with yourself here. (Although this is still kind of fun. But just barely...)

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Enlighten us as to why it's funny...... remember it's not because granite can only be scratched with diamond (that is not funny either).

Is that nine times, or ten? I've lost count... But seriously, I have to say that continuing this pitiful excuse for a "debate" is highly unlikely. Of course, feel free to continue it with yourself, but from here forward it will be a little bit different for you, as I probably won't be replying to much of what you have to say. (Not much different, I imagine.) But anyway, I'm confident you can defeat yourself, with the proper strategy and some dumb luck, of course... Cheers.



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Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 361 Citizen Attorney 05-Jan-13 00:24
Debunker debunked? 400 drrayeye 05-Jan-13 05:15
Aliens is making people re-evaluate certain paradigms 475 Ratcho 05-Jan-13 06:22
How is it possible? 363 gulsbo 05-Jan-13 16:16
Entertainment industry rules OK; thumbs down to education 313 Richard Fusniak 05-Jan-13 16:57
Re: Entertainment industry rules OK; thumbs down to education 426 gulsbo 06-Jan-13 08:03
Re: Entertainment industry rules OK; thumbs down to education 363 Richard Fusniak 06-Jan-13 08:59
Re: Entertainment industry rules OK; thumbs down to education 380 gulsbo 07-Jan-13 21:07
Re: Entertainment industry rules OK; thumbs down to education 417 Richard Fusniak 08-Jan-13 00:36
Fuzzy 314 Dan Mc F 08-Jan-13 12:49
Re: Fuzzy 403 Richard Fusniak 08-Jan-13 13:12
Re: Entertainment industry rules OK; thumbs down to education 328 gulsbo 09-Jan-13 21:36
Re: Smithsonian never lies.... 527 Thunderbird 23-Mar-13 03:39
who said aliens 373 Citizen Attorney 05-Jan-13 16:42
Re: who said aliens 370 David L 05-Jan-13 17:42
Re: who said aliens 419 Citizen Attorney 05-Jan-13 21:23
Agreed 395 NetWorkAngel 05-Jan-13 22:05
Re: Agreed 351 Citizen Attorney 06-Jan-13 19:16
Re: who said aliens 400 David L 07-Jan-13 01:16
Re: who said aliens 448 Thanos5150 06-Jan-13 18:38
Re: who said aliens 344 Citizen Attorney 06-Jan-13 19:17
Re: who said aliens 442 Thanos5150 06-Jan-13 22:45
Ancient Aliens' Debunked - Review 721 Thanos5150 07-Jan-13 02:23
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 401 MJT 08-Jan-13 13:58
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 394 Susan Doris 08-Jan-13 14:33
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 414 Richard Fusniak 08-Jan-13 15:19
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 447 Bobajot 10-Jan-13 04:01
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 439 wordsmyth 13-Jan-13 03:26
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 379 Archae Solenhofen 13-Jan-13 04:53
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 379 wordsmyth 15-Jan-13 01:44
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 420 richarddullum 15-Jan-13 03:28
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 354 wordsmyth 15-Jan-13 07:12
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 398 michael seabrook 15-Jan-13 10:48
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 419 Merrell 15-Jan-13 10:55
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 433 Archae Solenhofen 15-Jan-13 05:21
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 460 wordsmyth 15-Jan-13 08:24
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 366 Merrell 15-Jan-13 09:55
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 442 wordsmyth 15-Jan-13 10:26
Re: Archae Solenhofen = "Ancient Limestone" 454 Thanos5150 15-Jan-13 17:39
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 432 Archae Solenhofen 15-Jan-13 19:09
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 395 wordsmyth 15-Jan-13 22:26
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 363 Archae Solenhofen 16-Jan-13 03:29
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Re: Vyse Good.....alternative....Evil 410 Thanos5150 24-Feb-13 23:50
Re: Vyse Good.....alternative....Evil 375 Scott Creighton 25-Feb-13 00:18
Re: Vyse Good.....alternative....Evil 469 Martin Stower 25-Feb-13 17:57
Re: desperation.... 427 Thunderbird 25-Feb-13 21:20
Re: desperation.... 350 Martin Stower 26-Feb-13 15:47
Re: Khufu cartouche Cambell's chamber 463 Thunderbird 18-Mar-13 17:33
Re: Vyse Good.....alternative....Evil 385 wordsmyth 25-Feb-13 22:25
Re: Vyse Good.....alternative....Evil 394 Martin Stower 26-Feb-13 15:59
Re: Vyse Good.....alternative....Evil 393 wordsmyth 26-Feb-13 21:41
Re: Vyse Good.....alternative....Evil 407 Thanos5150 26-Feb-13 18:57
Re: Vyse Good.....alternative....Evil 413 Martin Stower 27-Feb-13 18:46
Re: Vyse Good.....alternative....Evil 327 Thanos5150 27-Feb-13 21:26
Re: Vyse Good.....alternative....Evil 422 Martin Stower 28-Feb-13 16:57
Re: Vyse Good.....alternative....Evil 371 Thanos5150 28-Feb-13 17:19
Re: Vyse Good.....alternative....Evil 376 Martin Stower 28-Feb-13 18:08
Re: Vyse Good.....alternative....Evil 412 Merrell 28-Feb-13 09:33
Re: Can we seriously believe that Alford has a clue.... 393 Thunderbird 25-Feb-13 16:41
Re: Can we seriously believe that Alford has a clue.... 446 Martin Stower 25-Feb-13 18:29
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 407 Archae Solenhofen 15-Jan-13 18:41
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 380 Thanos5150 15-Jan-13 22:13
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 371 Archae Solenhofen 15-Jan-13 22:44
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 458 Thanos5150 16-Jan-13 04:40
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 368 Archae Solenhofen 16-Jan-13 06:02
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 413 Thanos5150 16-Jan-13 06:54
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 429 Archae Solenhofen 16-Jan-13 09:09
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 370 Thanos5150 16-Jan-13 17:52
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 400 Archae Solenhofen 16-Jan-13 20:21
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 417 Thanos5150 16-Jan-13 21:21
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 316 Archae Solenhofen 17-Jan-13 04:57
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 415 Thanos5150 17-Jan-13 05:42
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 394 Archae Solenhofen 17-Jan-13 07:05
Fingerprints 1996 - 200 ton blocks 488 Merrell 17-Jan-13 11:22
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Re: Fingerprints 1996 - 200 ton blocks 404 Archae Solenhofen 17-Jan-13 17:44
Re: Fingerprints 1996 - 200 ton blocks 244 Archae Solenhofen 17-Jan-13 22:41
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Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 440 Thanos5150 17-Jan-13 23:46
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 395 wordsmyth 18-Jan-13 03:45
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Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 392 Archae Solenhofen 18-Jan-13 03:57
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Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 318 Archae Solenhofen 18-Jan-13 06:04
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Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 385 wordsmyth 16-Jan-13 06:30
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Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 386 Archae Solenhofen 17-Jan-13 05:10
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Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 388 Archae Solenhofen 16-Jan-13 08:06
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Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 401 Archae Solenhofen 16-Jan-13 17:11
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Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 371 Archae Solenhofen 23-Feb-13 04:49
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 410 Bobajot 23-Feb-13 12:31
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 390 Archae Solenhofen 23-Feb-13 20:25
Science Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 378 cladking 23-Feb-13 21:29
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 376 Bobajot 24-Feb-13 02:34
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 369 Archae Solenhofen 25-Feb-13 20:21
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 373 Bobajot 26-Feb-13 03:01
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 321 wordsmyth 23-Feb-13 21:21
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 351 Thanos5150 23-Feb-13 21:32
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 319 Thanos5150 23-Feb-13 22:10
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 353 wordsmyth 23-Feb-13 22:18
We would probably be amazed 290 Ratcho 24-Feb-13 00:52
Re: We would probably be amazed 287 wordsmyth 24-Feb-13 03:48
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 359 Archae Solenhofen 24-Feb-13 01:50
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 361 wordsmyth 24-Feb-13 02:44
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 342 wordsmyth 23-Feb-13 05:18
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 332 Archae Solenhofen 23-Feb-13 04:41
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 291 Archae Solenhofen 20-Feb-13 02:11
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 378 cladking 20-Feb-13 04:08
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 413 Thanos5150 22-Feb-13 05:31
I've tried hardened steel chisels 348 Ratcho 22-Feb-13 06:15
Re: I've tried hardened steel chisels 330 Susan Doris 22-Feb-13 07:15
Re: I've tried hardened steel chisels 384 Ratcho 22-Feb-13 17:51
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 371 Archae Solenhofen 23-Feb-13 05:15
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 379 cladking 23-Feb-13 15:13
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 217 Thanos5150 23-Feb-13 20:57
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 509 Archae Solenhofen 25-Feb-13 20:14
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 365 Susan Doris 24-Feb-13 15:49
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 376 wordsmyth 24-Feb-13 22:30
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 398 wordsmyth 20-Feb-13 02:22
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 376 Archae Solenhofen 20-Feb-13 03:47
How many swings would it take 394 Ratcho 20-Feb-13 06:29
Re: How many swings would it take 339 Susan Doris 20-Feb-13 17:31
Re: How many swings would it take 378 cladking 20-Feb-13 21:24
If you have the time... 336 Ratcho 22-Feb-13 22:48
Re: How many swings would it take 397 Archae Solenhofen 20-Feb-13 18:14
Re: How many swings would it take 315 cladking 20-Feb-13 21:30
Re: How many swings would it take 403 wordsmyth 21-Feb-13 08:39
Re: How many swings would it take 413 Scott Creighton 21-Feb-13 08:45
Re: How many swings would it take 343 Archae Solenhofen 21-Feb-13 17:32
Re: How many swings would it take 368 Scott Creighton 21-Feb-13 18:04
Re: How many swings would it take 326 Archae Solenhofen 21-Feb-13 19:55
Re: How many swings would it take 341 Scott Creighton 21-Feb-13 21:40
I'd still like to know 339 Ratcho 21-Feb-13 22:02
Re: I'd still like to know 378 Archae Solenhofen 21-Feb-13 22:43
Re: I'd still like to know 330 wordsmyth 21-Feb-13 23:47
Re: I'd still like to know 334 wordsmyth 22-Feb-13 00:10
Re: I'd still like to know 360 Archae Solenhofen 22-Feb-13 00:11
Re: Unfortunately, I'd still don't care... 361 wordsmyth 22-Feb-13 00:31
Re: Unfortunately, I'd still don't care... 376 Archae Solenhofen 22-Feb-13 00:47
Re: Unfortunately, I'd still don't care... 348 wordsmyth 22-Feb-13 07:47
Re: Unfortunately, I'd still don't care... 368 Archae Solenhofen 22-Feb-13 16:42
Re: How many swings would it take 405 wordsmyth 22-Feb-13 00:20
Re: How many swings would it take 297 Susan Doris 21-Feb-13 13:44
Re: How many swings would it take 305 Archae Solenhofen 21-Feb-13 16:09
Re: How many swings would it take 355 Scott Creighton 21-Feb-13 18:59
Re: How many swings would it take 366 Archae Solenhofen 21-Feb-13 20:06
Re: How many swings would it take 351 Scott Creighton 21-Feb-13 21:43
Re: How many swings would it take 361 Archae Solenhofen 21-Feb-13 22:22
Re: How many swings would it take 352 Scott Creighton 21-Feb-13 22:30
Re: How many swings would it take 349 Archae Solenhofen 21-Feb-13 22:48
Re: How many swings would it take 371 Morten 22-Feb-13 10:52
Re: How many swings would it take 351 wordsmyth 22-Feb-13 23:30
Re: How many swings would it take 465 Scott Creighton 21-Feb-13 22:55
Mod Note > Off Topic Sub-Thread 238 Dr. Troglodyte 22-Feb-13 00:01
Re: How many swings would it take 362 richarddullum 22-Feb-13 03:20
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 300 Audrey 13-Feb-13 23:21
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 369 Susan Doris 14-Feb-13 14:59
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 315 cladking 14-Feb-13 16:07
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 372 Archae Solenhofen 14-Feb-13 15:29
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 358 cladking 14-Feb-13 16:14
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 386 Archae Solenhofen 14-Feb-13 16:41
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 336 cladking 14-Feb-13 18:57
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 366 Thanos5150 20-Jan-13 19:04
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 288 Workjay 21-Jan-13 02:42
Re: Myth and Truth 361 Thunderbird 20-Jan-13 17:33
Re: Myth and Truth 370 wordsmyth 20-Jan-13 18:34
Re: Myth and Truth 389 cladking 20-Jan-13 22:30
Re: Myth and Truth 415 Glorious 20-Jan-13 23:31
Re: Myth and Truth 380 cladking 21-Jan-13 00:26
Re: Perception 488 Thunderbird 21-Jan-13 04:15
Re: Perception 377 Glorious 21-Jan-13 05:34
Re: Perception 323 Chris Jordan 21-Jan-13 07:45
Re: Perception 369 loveritas 21-Jan-13 11:32
Re: Change of Perception 390 Chris Jordan 21-Jan-13 16:20
Re: words/music /NT 300 Thunderbird 21-Jan-13 04:45
Re: words/music /NT 373 wordsmyth 23-Jan-13 08:14
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 374 Anomalies 21-Jan-13 16:53
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 358 Workjay 21-Jan-13 17:59
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 355 Anomalies 21-Jan-13 18:13
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 410 Susan Doris 28-Jan-13 16:29
Who knew? 378 cladking 28-Jan-13 22:07
Re: Who knew? 507 Susan Doris 01-Feb-13 18:25
Re: Who knew? 351 cladking 01-Feb-13 20:42
Egyptology Debunked; they wouldn't know a snake if it bit them. 431 cladking 28-Jan-13 21:04
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 349 cladking 21-Jan-13 18:16
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 346 Anomalies 22-Jan-13 15:09
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 286 cladking 22-Jan-13 15:39
'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 360 Anomalies 22-Jan-13 15:54
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 381 Workjay 22-Jan-13 16:10
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 263 Anomalies 22-Jan-13 16:32
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 340 Workjay 22-Jan-13 21:06
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 392 Anomalies 23-Jan-13 14:53
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 360 Workjay 23-Jan-13 21:10
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 361 Anomalies 23-Jan-13 21:51
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 351 Workjay 23-Jan-13 22:58
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 315 richarddullum 24-Jan-13 02:21
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 338 Workjay 24-Jan-13 02:46
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 276 richarddullum 24-Jan-13 14:33
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 366 Aine 24-Jan-13 13:00
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 353 richarddullum 25-Jan-13 01:57
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 323 Susan Doris 27-Jan-13 13:02
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 385 Susan Doris 02-Feb-13 14:01
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 343 Anomalies 05-Feb-13 15:41
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 341 Workjay 05-Feb-13 17:39
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 367 Anomalies 05-Feb-13 21:25
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 370 Workjay 06-Feb-13 17:31
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 359 Ratcho 06-Feb-13 19:02
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 324 Anomalies 06-Feb-13 21:54
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 317 Workjay 06-Feb-13 22:19
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 250 cladking 22-Jan-13 16:29
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 252 Anomalies 21-Jan-13 16:07
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 260 Workjay 21-Jan-13 16:13
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 234 carolb 21-Jan-13 17:52
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 231 Anomalies 21-Jan-13 18:00
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 263 carolb 21-Jan-13 18:05
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 236 Anomalies 21-Jan-13 19:01
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 270 carolb 21-Jan-13 19:07
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 244 Anomalies 21-Jan-13 19:21
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 288 carolb 21-Jan-13 19:42
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 249 Anomalies 21-Jan-13 19:58
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 262 carolb 21-Jan-13 20:17
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 223 Anomalies 21-Jan-13 20:27
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 252 Susan Doris 14-Feb-13 14:42
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 244 Anomalies 22-Jan-13 14:50
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 211 wordsmyth 23-Jan-13 08:35
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 261 Workjay 22-Jan-13 02:20
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 257 richarddullum 22-Jan-13 14:31
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 285 Aine 22-Jan-13 14:49
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 267 Anomalies 22-Jan-13 14:56
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 301 Aine 22-Jan-13 15:29
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 317 Aine 22-Jan-13 15:47
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 230 Anomalies 22-Jan-13 16:08
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 336 Aine 22-Jan-13 16:23
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 301 Aine 22-Jan-13 16:24
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 285 richarddullum 23-Jan-13 04:50
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 249 wordsmyth 23-Jan-13 08:52
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 259 richarddullum 23-Jan-13 14:28
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 277 wordsmyth 23-Jan-13 15:19
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 311 Aine 23-Jan-13 15:42
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 255 richarddullum 24-Jan-13 02:03
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 274 Aine 23-Jan-13 14:39
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 277 wordsmyth 23-Jan-13 15:09
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 316 Aine 24-Jan-13 13:19
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 257 wordsmyth 25-Jan-13 05:08
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 258 Glorious 25-Jan-13 05:49
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 325 Susan Doris 25-Jan-13 06:47
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 257 wordsmyth 25-Jan-13 07:03
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 254 Glorious 25-Jan-13 07:32
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 229 wordsmyth 25-Jan-13 08:09
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 213 cladking 25-Jan-13 16:32
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 245 Susan Doris 23-Jan-13 06:54
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 257 Glorious 23-Jan-13 07:43
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 303 Aine 23-Jan-13 14:47
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 284 BobbyH 22-Jan-13 19:21
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 286 Aine 22-Jan-13 19:41
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 255 BobbyH 22-Jan-13 19:56
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 298 Aine 22-Jan-13 19:59
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 329 Aine 22-Jan-13 20:09
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 284 Glorious 22-Jan-13 20:52
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 258 BobbyH 22-Jan-13 14:57
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 252 Workjay 22-Jan-13 15:08
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 266 BobbyH 22-Jan-13 15:41
Episode: "Destination Orion" was very well done 260 David L 17-Jan-13 17:35
Re: Episode: "Destination Orion" was very well done 249 Thomas Brophy 03-Mar-13 23:30
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 153 wordsmyth 23-Jan-13 08:10
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 289 Archae Solenhofen 25-Jan-13 03:28
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 277 wordsmyth 25-Jan-13 06:32
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 345 Thanos5150 25-Jan-13 18:22
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 256 Sangreal Sea 25-Jan-13 19:11
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 265 Warwick 11-Feb-13 22:32
The latest episode "Alien Abductions" is the most absurd yet 233 David L 23-Feb-13 23:41
Re: The latest episode "Alien Abductions" is the most absurd yet 258 Anomalies 25-Feb-13 19:00
Re: The latest episode "Alien Abductions" is the most absurd yet 183 David L 26-Feb-13 01:44
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 178 LanceHall 23-Mar-13 00:28


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