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How is it a "straw man" when numerous fringe authors are claming granite can only be scratched with diamond?

Because I'm not claiming it, nor is anyone in the video which I specifically wanted to debate about. On the other hand, you incessantly bring it up, on five different occasions already in this brief exchange, six including the above, and then you proceed to refute it. This behavior being the very definition of a strawman, a false argument created to misrepresent an opponent's position. FYI, I guess...

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This false notion in its various forms is a key aspect of spreading advanced technology claims through many fringe media of this sort.

Hilarious! I mean, seriously, if you think that's one of the "key aspects" to the ancient advanced-technology theory, well, then I feel embarrassed for you because after ten years, I would think you had a better grasp on your opponent's position than THAT...

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What technology was that.... specific examples of such

Did you forget what we were talking about? I was generally referring to your useless examples of "simple technology". More specifically, I was referring to your wonderful home-made drill made from a popsicle stick, rubber band, and kitty litter.

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(BTW that is not the stone products claimed to be made by such, but the actual technology that produced them)? I suggest finding it somewhere in Nicholson & Shaw (2000). Good luck in that because it is pretty clear it's not there.

That's wonderful. Unfortunately, I don't care. But anyway, nice try suggesting what my argument should be and where I should go to find out your suggested argument is wrong.

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Maybe you think you can get away with claiming these lost ones were extremely tidy, but I doubt it.

So then, you are unaware of the fact that the only materials that don't corrode, degrade, and/or decompose within about 500 years are solid stone and solid gold? Not to mention, the older a civilization is, the less there is artifact-wise, mainly because the archaeological record preserves only a very small fraction of objects that somehow manage to get buried in the first place. Just to name a few of the more obvious reasons...

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I belive I have asked Mr. Dunn if his spiraling scratch is visible on the image below and I also asked him to mark its location on such so we can all see what he was measuring and I am still waiting (it will be10 years on the 26th of January).

Did he have to file a restraining order against you then?

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As pointed out by Mr. Dunn, and should be quite clear from the photo below, some of Petrie's observation about such are not consistent with reality.

To an expert, much less a layman, nothing is "clear" from that photo. Sorry.

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Does he also believe that granite can only be scratched with diamond?

Seven times now.

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The bow-drill experiments of Stocks (1993, 2003) cut granite into a tapered core, it rough polished the sides, and it produced striations on the surface.

Let's see a video then. Like I specifically requested.

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So all the fringe have is the megaliths and little to nothing else other than gross exaggeration about such, like clams of 100s of 200+ ton blocks and 2.5 million blocks with 0.01 tolerances?

I think you are forgetting about the team of Japanese engineers who scientifically proved that they could not build a 1/10 scale replica of the Great Pyramid (a measly 48 feet tall) neither with ancient technology nor modern technology. Among other things...

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Don't tell me ..... go tell the fringe authors claiming granite can only be scratched with diamond.

Eight times now.

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Did not Mr. Stocks do experiments using known/deduced ancient Egyptian technology?

Did you provide a video of these experiments, as requested? Because what is claimed to be possible on paper with most Egyptologists ignorant of basic engineering is usually harder to prove in reality.

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Ya, that's right, fringe authors insinuate that granite is equal to the hardest substance known, state the known ancients of orthodox archeology didn’t have access to diamond, invoke some unkown advanced technology to fill the imaginary void produced by such, and then hide behind the inability to test the claim.

How old are you? The reason I ask is because I have a strict policy against arguing with teenage boys and I'm starting to think your anonymous internet career as "Archae" might have began around the age of nine with some Egyptologist-Cub-Scout kind of organization, especially in light of your nom de plume...

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Lubicz role is mentioned in a number of Dr. Schoch’s publications as well Mr. West’s.

So then, about that citation you forgot to provide (again)...

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How about to correct your original construction, which was wrong..... if you don’t like it get it right first the next time.

I asked for a citation to a scholarly article about water erosion on the Sphinx prior to Schoch. Which has nothing to do with your (so-called) "correction". Sorry.

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It's pretty clear from the actual penetrations into the core masonry of the GP that it is masonry fill and not finely carved blocks... Care to enlighten us as to where your now clearly imaginary claim about "millions of 2.5 ton blocks with tolerances of .010 inch" popped into existence from?

So then, do you want to try again? Perhaps with a picture of your new-and-improved position. Since that picture you linked to is completely unrelated the above claim. The claim you've now suddenly changed your tune about.

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I was under the impression you thought exaggeration of block weights were lies and anyone who grossly exaggerated those weights were liars....

Somehow you managed to be just as incoherent as before. Perhaps you should try saying the whole thing completely differently. Preferably with a point, too, this time. Thanks in advance!

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>But seriously, I repeat: Why should anyone take an anonymous
>person, who is hiding behind a fake name and whose
>age/expertise is completely unknown, seriously about any of
>these topics? Someone who professes certainty that it was done
>with "simple technology", despite the obvious fact such
>certainty is clearly lacking? Someone who can barely manage to
>make a credible case for their position STRICTLY arguing
>against the most far-out claims of the Ancient Alien
>proponents? Please, enlighten me...

Do you really think that only "far-out" ancient Alien proponents are making these types of claims? Apparently you missed the section on stone enigmas in Fingerprints of the Gods.

So then, what you mean to say is that there is no good reason to take some anonymous random person seriously, one who constantly misrepresents his opponents arguments, incessantly brings up the same strawmen every chance he gets, and also suggest arguments for his opponents and then proves them wrong in the same sentence... Glad to know I can finally wash my hands of this sad excuse for a "debate"...

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It's clear to me you didn't bother to actually look at the image I just posted..... care to guess what it weighed as a larger block in the quarry before in was moved so it could be carved into a 600+ ton column of granite and perched so precariously on it's large base? You were the one going on about the Russians lying about a block weight they moved, so can you tell us what they were also lying about here?

You mean the Alexander column erected in 1830? Quarried with nineteenth century equipment, transported by barge, then placed upright by 3000 men AFTER it had been delivered to St. Petersburg? Kind of a bad example, given its meager weight and the amount of modern technology involved, don't you think?

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Because you were asking for one...

"Anyway, if any of those involved with this program are on these boards, I'd be more than happy to debate you on this subject (even though I'm not an ancient alien proponent, I am convinced of a technologically-advanced culture in our remote past). And if they aren't on here, I'll gladly extend that offer to anyone who thinks this program is remotely accurate and/or honest. Cheers."

Notice the debate request was specifically about the 'Ancient Aliens Debunked' program and/or those involved with it, the video you said you haven't watched yet? Not to mention, based on the amount of strawmen you bring up and then refute, I don't really think my involvement is necessary in your debate with yourself here. (Although this is still kind of fun. But just barely...)

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Enlighten us as to why it's funny...... remember it's not because granite can only be scratched with diamond (that is not funny either).

Is that nine times, or ten? I've lost count... But seriously, I have to say that continuing this pitiful excuse for a "debate" is highly unlikely. Of course, feel free to continue it with yourself, but from here forward it will be a little bit different for you, as I probably won't be replying to much of what you have to say. (Not much different, I imagine.) But anyway, I'm confident you can defeat yourself, with the proper strategy and some dumb luck, of course... Cheers.



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Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 285 Citizen Attorney 05-Jan-13 00:24
Debunker debunked? 321 drrayeye 05-Jan-13 05:15
Aliens is making people re-evaluate certain paradigms 392 Ratcho 05-Jan-13 06:22
How is it possible? 304 gulsbo 05-Jan-13 16:16
Entertainment industry rules OK; thumbs down to education 255 Richard Fusniak 05-Jan-13 16:57
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Re: Entertainment industry rules OK; thumbs down to education 299 Richard Fusniak 06-Jan-13 08:59
Re: Entertainment industry rules OK; thumbs down to education 312 gulsbo 07-Jan-13 21:07
Re: Entertainment industry rules OK; thumbs down to education 342 Richard Fusniak 08-Jan-13 00:36
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Re: Fuzzy 319 Richard Fusniak 08-Jan-13 13:12
Re: Entertainment industry rules OK; thumbs down to education 256 gulsbo 09-Jan-13 21:36
Re: Smithsonian never lies.... 462 Thunderbird 23-Mar-13 03:39
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Re: who said aliens 368 Thanos5150 06-Jan-13 22:45
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Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 309 wordsmyth 15-Jan-13 01:44
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Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 296 Thanos5150 15-Jan-13 22:13
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 316 Archae Solenhofen 15-Jan-13 22:44
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 377 Thanos5150 16-Jan-13 04:40
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 302 Archae Solenhofen 16-Jan-13 06:02
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 338 Thanos5150 16-Jan-13 06:54
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 357 Archae Solenhofen 16-Jan-13 09:09
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Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 324 Archae Solenhofen 16-Jan-13 20:21
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 347 Thanos5150 16-Jan-13 21:21
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Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 328 Archae Solenhofen 17-Jan-13 07:05
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Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 290 Archae Solenhofen 23-Feb-13 04:49
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 343 Bobajot 23-Feb-13 12:31
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 331 Archae Solenhofen 23-Feb-13 20:25
Science Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 318 cladking 23-Feb-13 21:29
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 301 Bobajot 24-Feb-13 02:34
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 302 Archae Solenhofen 25-Feb-13 20:21
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 318 Bobajot 26-Feb-13 03:01
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 252 wordsmyth 23-Feb-13 21:21
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 291 Thanos5150 23-Feb-13 21:32
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 268 Thanos5150 23-Feb-13 22:10
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 296 wordsmyth 23-Feb-13 22:18
We would probably be amazed 235 Ratcho 24-Feb-13 00:52
Re: We would probably be amazed 231 wordsmyth 24-Feb-13 03:48
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 298 Archae Solenhofen 24-Feb-13 01:50
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 319 wordsmyth 24-Feb-13 02:44
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 290 wordsmyth 23-Feb-13 05:18
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 280 Archae Solenhofen 23-Feb-13 04:41
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 227 Archae Solenhofen 20-Feb-13 02:11
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 307 cladking 20-Feb-13 04:08
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 335 Thanos5150 22-Feb-13 05:31
I've tried hardened steel chisels 300 Ratcho 22-Feb-13 06:15
Re: I've tried hardened steel chisels 274 Susan Doris 22-Feb-13 07:15
Re: I've tried hardened steel chisels 303 Ratcho 22-Feb-13 17:51
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 307 Archae Solenhofen 23-Feb-13 05:15
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 298 cladking 23-Feb-13 15:13
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 167 Thanos5150 23-Feb-13 20:57
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 383 Archae Solenhofen 25-Feb-13 20:14
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 304 Susan Doris 24-Feb-13 15:49
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 315 wordsmyth 24-Feb-13 22:30
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 332 wordsmyth 20-Feb-13 02:22
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 317 Archae Solenhofen 20-Feb-13 03:47
How many swings would it take 333 Ratcho 20-Feb-13 06:29
Re: How many swings would it take 267 Susan Doris 20-Feb-13 17:31
Re: How many swings would it take 307 cladking 20-Feb-13 21:24
If you have the time... 279 Ratcho 22-Feb-13 22:48
Re: How many swings would it take 325 Archae Solenhofen 20-Feb-13 18:14
Re: How many swings would it take 260 cladking 20-Feb-13 21:30
Re: How many swings would it take 339 wordsmyth 21-Feb-13 08:39
Re: How many swings would it take 343 Scott Creighton 21-Feb-13 08:45
Re: How many swings would it take 289 Archae Solenhofen 21-Feb-13 17:32
Re: How many swings would it take 299 Scott Creighton 21-Feb-13 18:04
Re: How many swings would it take 274 Archae Solenhofen 21-Feb-13 19:55
Re: How many swings would it take 277 Scott Creighton 21-Feb-13 21:40
I'd still like to know 279 Ratcho 21-Feb-13 22:02
Re: I'd still like to know 312 Archae Solenhofen 21-Feb-13 22:43
Re: I'd still like to know 276 wordsmyth 21-Feb-13 23:47
Re: I'd still like to know 287 wordsmyth 22-Feb-13 00:10
Re: I'd still like to know 302 Archae Solenhofen 22-Feb-13 00:11
Re: Unfortunately, I'd still don't care... 291 wordsmyth 22-Feb-13 00:31
Re: Unfortunately, I'd still don't care... 322 Archae Solenhofen 22-Feb-13 00:47
Re: Unfortunately, I'd still don't care... 293 wordsmyth 22-Feb-13 07:47
Re: Unfortunately, I'd still don't care... 293 Archae Solenhofen 22-Feb-13 16:42
Re: How many swings would it take 342 wordsmyth 22-Feb-13 00:20
Re: How many swings would it take 248 Susan Doris 21-Feb-13 13:44
Re: How many swings would it take 256 Archae Solenhofen 21-Feb-13 16:09
Re: How many swings would it take 282 Scott Creighton 21-Feb-13 18:59
Re: How many swings would it take 302 Archae Solenhofen 21-Feb-13 20:06
Re: How many swings would it take 283 Scott Creighton 21-Feb-13 21:43
Re: How many swings would it take 287 Archae Solenhofen 21-Feb-13 22:22
Re: How many swings would it take 282 Scott Creighton 21-Feb-13 22:30
Re: How many swings would it take 281 Archae Solenhofen 21-Feb-13 22:48
Re: How many swings would it take 303 Morten 22-Feb-13 10:52
Re: How many swings would it take 279 wordsmyth 22-Feb-13 23:30
Re: How many swings would it take 398 Scott Creighton 21-Feb-13 22:55
Mod Note > Off Topic Sub-Thread 189 Dr. Troglodyte 22-Feb-13 00:01
Re: How many swings would it take 286 richarddullum 22-Feb-13 03:20
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 242 Audrey 13-Feb-13 23:21
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 298 Susan Doris 14-Feb-13 14:59
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 248 cladking 14-Feb-13 16:07
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 295 Archae Solenhofen 14-Feb-13 15:29
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 312 cladking 14-Feb-13 16:14
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 332 Archae Solenhofen 14-Feb-13 16:41
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 276 cladking 14-Feb-13 18:57
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 301 Thanos5150 20-Jan-13 19:04
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 241 Workjay 21-Jan-13 02:42
Re: Myth and Truth 278 Thunderbird 20-Jan-13 17:33
Re: Myth and Truth 307 wordsmyth 20-Jan-13 18:34
Re: Myth and Truth 324 cladking 20-Jan-13 22:30
Re: Myth and Truth 337 Glorious 20-Jan-13 23:31
Re: Myth and Truth 304 cladking 21-Jan-13 00:26
Re: Perception 420 Thunderbird 21-Jan-13 04:15
Re: Perception 319 Glorious 21-Jan-13 05:34
Re: Perception 277 Chris Jordan 21-Jan-13 07:45
Re: Perception 306 loveritas 21-Jan-13 11:32
Re: Change of Perception 329 Chris Jordan 21-Jan-13 16:20
Re: words/music /NT 235 Thunderbird 21-Jan-13 04:45
Re: words/music /NT 301 wordsmyth 23-Jan-13 08:14
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 314 Anomalies 21-Jan-13 16:53
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 285 Workjay 21-Jan-13 17:59
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 289 Anomalies 21-Jan-13 18:13
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 320 Susan Doris 28-Jan-13 16:29
Who knew? 306 cladking 28-Jan-13 22:07
Re: Who knew? 423 Susan Doris 01-Feb-13 18:25
Re: Who knew? 289 cladking 01-Feb-13 20:42
Egyptology Debunked; they wouldn't know a snake if it bit them. 330 cladking 28-Jan-13 21:04
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 273 cladking 21-Jan-13 18:16
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 286 Anomalies 22-Jan-13 15:09
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 219 cladking 22-Jan-13 15:39
'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 299 Anomalies 22-Jan-13 15:54
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 320 Workjay 22-Jan-13 16:10
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 201 Anomalies 22-Jan-13 16:32
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 254 Workjay 22-Jan-13 21:06
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 322 Anomalies 23-Jan-13 14:53
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 275 Workjay 23-Jan-13 21:10
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 291 Anomalies 23-Jan-13 21:51
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 280 Workjay 23-Jan-13 22:58
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 250 richarddullum 24-Jan-13 02:21
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 253 Workjay 24-Jan-13 02:46
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 219 richarddullum 24-Jan-13 14:33
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 304 Aine 24-Jan-13 13:00
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 285 richarddullum 25-Jan-13 01:57
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 251 Susan Doris 27-Jan-13 13:02
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 310 Susan Doris 02-Feb-13 14:01
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 278 Anomalies 05-Feb-13 15:41
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 267 Workjay 05-Feb-13 17:39
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 299 Anomalies 05-Feb-13 21:25
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 301 Workjay 06-Feb-13 17:31
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 284 Ratcho 06-Feb-13 19:02
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 255 Anomalies 06-Feb-13 21:54
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 251 Workjay 06-Feb-13 22:19
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 177 cladking 22-Jan-13 16:29
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 170 Anomalies 21-Jan-13 16:07
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 174 Workjay 21-Jan-13 16:13
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 169 carolb 21-Jan-13 17:52
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 168 Anomalies 21-Jan-13 18:00
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 152 carolb 21-Jan-13 18:05
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 177 Anomalies 21-Jan-13 19:01
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 182 carolb 21-Jan-13 19:07
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 170 Anomalies 21-Jan-13 19:21
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 195 carolb 21-Jan-13 19:42
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 158 Anomalies 21-Jan-13 19:58
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 180 carolb 21-Jan-13 20:17
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 162 Anomalies 21-Jan-13 20:27
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 186 Susan Doris 14-Feb-13 14:42
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 166 Anomalies 22-Jan-13 14:50
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 148 wordsmyth 23-Jan-13 08:35
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 178 Workjay 22-Jan-13 02:20
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 181 richarddullum 22-Jan-13 14:31
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 213 Aine 22-Jan-13 14:49
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 179 Anomalies 22-Jan-13 14:56
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 224 Aine 22-Jan-13 15:29
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 232 Aine 22-Jan-13 15:47
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 162 Anomalies 22-Jan-13 16:08
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 252 Aine 22-Jan-13 16:23
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 240 Aine 22-Jan-13 16:24
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 225 richarddullum 23-Jan-13 04:50
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 169 wordsmyth 23-Jan-13 08:52
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 184 richarddullum 23-Jan-13 14:28
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 206 wordsmyth 23-Jan-13 15:19
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 239 Aine 23-Jan-13 15:42
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 163 richarddullum 24-Jan-13 02:03
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 232 Aine 23-Jan-13 14:39
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 210 wordsmyth 23-Jan-13 15:09
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 243 Aine 24-Jan-13 13:19
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 184 wordsmyth 25-Jan-13 05:08
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 185 Glorious 25-Jan-13 05:49
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 229 Susan Doris 25-Jan-13 06:47
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 171 wordsmyth 25-Jan-13 07:03
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 168 Glorious 25-Jan-13 07:32
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 152 wordsmyth 25-Jan-13 08:09
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 158 cladking 25-Jan-13 16:32
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 177 Susan Doris 23-Jan-13 06:54
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 193 Glorious 23-Jan-13 07:43
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 238 Aine 23-Jan-13 14:47
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 198 BobbyH 22-Jan-13 19:21
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 221 Aine 22-Jan-13 19:41
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 177 BobbyH 22-Jan-13 19:56
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 231 Aine 22-Jan-13 19:59
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 232 Aine 22-Jan-13 20:09
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 205 Glorious 22-Jan-13 20:52
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 174 BobbyH 22-Jan-13 14:57
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 175 Workjay 22-Jan-13 15:08
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 188 BobbyH 22-Jan-13 15:41
Episode: "Destination Orion" was very well done 173 David L 17-Jan-13 17:35
Re: Episode: "Destination Orion" was very well done 156 Thomas Brophy 03-Mar-13 23:30
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 115 wordsmyth 23-Jan-13 08:10
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 213 Archae Solenhofen 25-Jan-13 03:28
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 201 wordsmyth 25-Jan-13 06:32
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 265 Thanos5150 25-Jan-13 18:22
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 193 Sangreal Sea 25-Jan-13 19:11
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 179 Warwick 11-Feb-13 22:32
The latest episode "Alien Abductions" is the most absurd yet 167 David L 23-Feb-13 23:41
Re: The latest episode "Alien Abductions" is the most absurd yet 166 Anomalies 25-Feb-13 19:00
Re: The latest episode "Alien Abductions" is the most absurd yet 129 David L 26-Feb-13 01:44
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 115 LanceHall 23-Mar-13 00:28


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