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How is it a "straw man" when numerous fringe authors are claming granite can only be scratched with diamond?

Because I'm not claiming it, nor is anyone in the video which I specifically wanted to debate about. On the other hand, you incessantly bring it up, on five different occasions already in this brief exchange, six including the above, and then you proceed to refute it. This behavior being the very definition of a strawman, a false argument created to misrepresent an opponent's position. FYI, I guess...

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This false notion in its various forms is a key aspect of spreading advanced technology claims through many fringe media of this sort.

Hilarious! I mean, seriously, if you think that's one of the "key aspects" to the ancient advanced-technology theory, well, then I feel embarrassed for you because after ten years, I would think you had a better grasp on your opponent's position than THAT...

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What technology was that.... specific examples of such

Did you forget what we were talking about? I was generally referring to your useless examples of "simple technology". More specifically, I was referring to your wonderful home-made drill made from a popsicle stick, rubber band, and kitty litter.

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(BTW that is not the stone products claimed to be made by such, but the actual technology that produced them)? I suggest finding it somewhere in Nicholson & Shaw (2000). Good luck in that because it is pretty clear it's not there.

That's wonderful. Unfortunately, I don't care. But anyway, nice try suggesting what my argument should be and where I should go to find out your suggested argument is wrong.

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Maybe you think you can get away with claiming these lost ones were extremely tidy, but I doubt it.

So then, you are unaware of the fact that the only materials that don't corrode, degrade, and/or decompose within about 500 years are solid stone and solid gold? Not to mention, the older a civilization is, the less there is artifact-wise, mainly because the archaeological record preserves only a very small fraction of objects that somehow manage to get buried in the first place. Just to name a few of the more obvious reasons...

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I belive I have asked Mr. Dunn if his spiraling scratch is visible on the image below and I also asked him to mark its location on such so we can all see what he was measuring and I am still waiting (it will be10 years on the 26th of January).

Did he have to file a restraining order against you then?

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As pointed out by Mr. Dunn, and should be quite clear from the photo below, some of Petrie's observation about such are not consistent with reality.

To an expert, much less a layman, nothing is "clear" from that photo. Sorry.

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Does he also believe that granite can only be scratched with diamond?

Seven times now.

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The bow-drill experiments of Stocks (1993, 2003) cut granite into a tapered core, it rough polished the sides, and it produced striations on the surface.

Let's see a video then. Like I specifically requested.

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So all the fringe have is the megaliths and little to nothing else other than gross exaggeration about such, like clams of 100s of 200+ ton blocks and 2.5 million blocks with 0.01 tolerances?

I think you are forgetting about the team of Japanese engineers who scientifically proved that they could not build a 1/10 scale replica of the Great Pyramid (a measly 48 feet tall) neither with ancient technology nor modern technology. Among other things...

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Don't tell me ..... go tell the fringe authors claiming granite can only be scratched with diamond.

Eight times now.

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Did not Mr. Stocks do experiments using known/deduced ancient Egyptian technology?

Did you provide a video of these experiments, as requested? Because what is claimed to be possible on paper with most Egyptologists ignorant of basic engineering is usually harder to prove in reality.

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Ya, that's right, fringe authors insinuate that granite is equal to the hardest substance known, state the known ancients of orthodox archeology didn’t have access to diamond, invoke some unkown advanced technology to fill the imaginary void produced by such, and then hide behind the inability to test the claim.

How old are you? The reason I ask is because I have a strict policy against arguing with teenage boys and I'm starting to think your anonymous internet career as "Archae" might have began around the age of nine with some Egyptologist-Cub-Scout kind of organization, especially in light of your nom de plume...

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Lubicz role is mentioned in a number of Dr. Schoch’s publications as well Mr. West’s.

So then, about that citation you forgot to provide (again)...

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How about to correct your original construction, which was wrong..... if you don’t like it get it right first the next time.

I asked for a citation to a scholarly article about water erosion on the Sphinx prior to Schoch. Which has nothing to do with your (so-called) "correction". Sorry.

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It's pretty clear from the actual penetrations into the core masonry of the GP that it is masonry fill and not finely carved blocks... Care to enlighten us as to where your now clearly imaginary claim about "millions of 2.5 ton blocks with tolerances of .010 inch" popped into existence from?

So then, do you want to try again? Perhaps with a picture of your new-and-improved position. Since that picture you linked to is completely unrelated the above claim. The claim you've now suddenly changed your tune about.

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I was under the impression you thought exaggeration of block weights were lies and anyone who grossly exaggerated those weights were liars....

Somehow you managed to be just as incoherent as before. Perhaps you should try saying the whole thing completely differently. Preferably with a point, too, this time. Thanks in advance!

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>But seriously, I repeat: Why should anyone take an anonymous
>person, who is hiding behind a fake name and whose
>age/expertise is completely unknown, seriously about any of
>these topics? Someone who professes certainty that it was done
>with "simple technology", despite the obvious fact such
>certainty is clearly lacking? Someone who can barely manage to
>make a credible case for their position STRICTLY arguing
>against the most far-out claims of the Ancient Alien
>proponents? Please, enlighten me...

Do you really think that only "far-out" ancient Alien proponents are making these types of claims? Apparently you missed the section on stone enigmas in Fingerprints of the Gods.

So then, what you mean to say is that there is no good reason to take some anonymous random person seriously, one who constantly misrepresents his opponents arguments, incessantly brings up the same strawmen every chance he gets, and also suggest arguments for his opponents and then proves them wrong in the same sentence... Glad to know I can finally wash my hands of this sad excuse for a "debate"...

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It's clear to me you didn't bother to actually look at the image I just posted..... care to guess what it weighed as a larger block in the quarry before in was moved so it could be carved into a 600+ ton column of granite and perched so precariously on it's large base? You were the one going on about the Russians lying about a block weight they moved, so can you tell us what they were also lying about here?

You mean the Alexander column erected in 1830? Quarried with nineteenth century equipment, transported by barge, then placed upright by 3000 men AFTER it had been delivered to St. Petersburg? Kind of a bad example, given its meager weight and the amount of modern technology involved, don't you think?

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Because you were asking for one...

"Anyway, if any of those involved with this program are on these boards, I'd be more than happy to debate you on this subject (even though I'm not an ancient alien proponent, I am convinced of a technologically-advanced culture in our remote past). And if they aren't on here, I'll gladly extend that offer to anyone who thinks this program is remotely accurate and/or honest. Cheers."

Notice the debate request was specifically about the 'Ancient Aliens Debunked' program and/or those involved with it, the video you said you haven't watched yet? Not to mention, based on the amount of strawmen you bring up and then refute, I don't really think my involvement is necessary in your debate with yourself here. (Although this is still kind of fun. But just barely...)

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Enlighten us as to why it's funny...... remember it's not because granite can only be scratched with diamond (that is not funny either).

Is that nine times, or ten? I've lost count... But seriously, I have to say that continuing this pitiful excuse for a "debate" is highly unlikely. Of course, feel free to continue it with yourself, but from here forward it will be a little bit different for you, as I probably won't be replying to much of what you have to say. (Not much different, I imagine.) But anyway, I'm confident you can defeat yourself, with the proper strategy and some dumb luck, of course... Cheers.



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Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 297 Citizen Attorney 05-Jan-13 00:24
Debunker debunked? 335 drrayeye 05-Jan-13 05:15
Aliens is making people re-evaluate certain paradigms 406 Ratcho 05-Jan-13 06:22
How is it possible? 313 gulsbo 05-Jan-13 16:16
Entertainment industry rules OK; thumbs down to education 265 Richard Fusniak 05-Jan-13 16:57
Re: Entertainment industry rules OK; thumbs down to education 349 gulsbo 06-Jan-13 08:03
Re: Entertainment industry rules OK; thumbs down to education 311 Richard Fusniak 06-Jan-13 08:59
Re: Entertainment industry rules OK; thumbs down to education 325 gulsbo 07-Jan-13 21:07
Re: Entertainment industry rules OK; thumbs down to education 354 Richard Fusniak 08-Jan-13 00:36
Fuzzy 276 Dan Mc F 08-Jan-13 12:49
Re: Fuzzy 330 Richard Fusniak 08-Jan-13 13:12
Re: Entertainment industry rules OK; thumbs down to education 266 gulsbo 09-Jan-13 21:36
Re: Smithsonian never lies.... 477 Thunderbird 23-Mar-13 03:39
who said aliens 305 Citizen Attorney 05-Jan-13 16:42
Re: who said aliens 309 David L 05-Jan-13 17:42
Re: who said aliens 350 Citizen Attorney 05-Jan-13 21:23
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Re: who said aliens 289 Citizen Attorney 06-Jan-13 19:17
Re: who said aliens 380 Thanos5150 06-Jan-13 22:45
Ancient Aliens' Debunked - Review 619 Thanos5150 07-Jan-13 02:23
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 351 MJT 08-Jan-13 13:58
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 326 Susan Doris 08-Jan-13 14:33
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 351 Richard Fusniak 08-Jan-13 15:19
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 395 Bobajot 10-Jan-13 04:01
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 375 wordsmyth 13-Jan-13 03:26
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 327 Archae Solenhofen 13-Jan-13 04:53
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 319 wordsmyth 15-Jan-13 01:44
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 359 richarddullum 15-Jan-13 03:28
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Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 372 Archae Solenhofen 15-Jan-13 05:21
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Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 321 Merrell 15-Jan-13 09:55
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 381 wordsmyth 15-Jan-13 10:26
Re: Archae Solenhofen = "Ancient Limestone" 369 Thanos5150 15-Jan-13 17:39
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 339 Archae Solenhofen 15-Jan-13 19:09
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 344 wordsmyth 15-Jan-13 22:26
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 298 Archae Solenhofen 16-Jan-13 03:29
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Re: Vyse Good.....alternative....Evil 353 Thanos5150 24-Feb-13 23:50
Re: Vyse Good.....alternative....Evil 324 Scott Creighton 25-Feb-13 00:18
Re: Vyse Good.....alternative....Evil 397 Martin Stower 25-Feb-13 17:57
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Re: Khufu cartouche Cambell's chamber 373 Thunderbird 18-Mar-13 17:33
Re: Vyse Good.....alternative....Evil 333 wordsmyth 25-Feb-13 22:25
Re: Vyse Good.....alternative....Evil 340 Martin Stower 26-Feb-13 15:59
Re: Vyse Good.....alternative....Evil 328 wordsmyth 26-Feb-13 21:41
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Re: Vyse Good.....alternative....Evil 342 Martin Stower 28-Feb-13 16:57
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Re: Vyse Good.....alternative....Evil 327 Martin Stower 28-Feb-13 18:08
Re: Vyse Good.....alternative....Evil 353 Merrell 28-Feb-13 09:33
Re: Can we seriously believe that Alford has a clue.... 340 Thunderbird 25-Feb-13 16:41
Re: Can we seriously believe that Alford has a clue.... 361 Martin Stower 25-Feb-13 18:29
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 338 Archae Solenhofen 15-Jan-13 18:41
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 309 Thanos5150 15-Jan-13 22:13
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 323 Archae Solenhofen 15-Jan-13 22:44
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 394 Thanos5150 16-Jan-13 04:40
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 314 Archae Solenhofen 16-Jan-13 06:02
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 352 Thanos5150 16-Jan-13 06:54
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 372 Archae Solenhofen 16-Jan-13 09:09
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 303 Thanos5150 16-Jan-13 17:52
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 339 Archae Solenhofen 16-Jan-13 20:21
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 361 Thanos5150 16-Jan-13 21:21
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 263 Archae Solenhofen 17-Jan-13 04:57
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 338 Thanos5150 17-Jan-13 05:42
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 338 Archae Solenhofen 17-Jan-13 07:05
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Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 262 Archae Solenhofen 16-Jan-13 21:17
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Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 300 Archae Solenhofen 23-Feb-13 04:49
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 357 Bobajot 23-Feb-13 12:31
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 340 Archae Solenhofen 23-Feb-13 20:25
Science Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 326 cladking 23-Feb-13 21:29
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 314 Bobajot 24-Feb-13 02:34
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 315 Archae Solenhofen 25-Feb-13 20:21
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 327 Bobajot 26-Feb-13 03:01
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 265 wordsmyth 23-Feb-13 21:21
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 301 Thanos5150 23-Feb-13 21:32
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 274 Thanos5150 23-Feb-13 22:10
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 311 wordsmyth 23-Feb-13 22:18
We would probably be amazed 245 Ratcho 24-Feb-13 00:52
Re: We would probably be amazed 241 wordsmyth 24-Feb-13 03:48
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 307 Archae Solenhofen 24-Feb-13 01:50
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 328 wordsmyth 24-Feb-13 02:44
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 302 wordsmyth 23-Feb-13 05:18
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 289 Archae Solenhofen 23-Feb-13 04:41
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 239 Archae Solenhofen 20-Feb-13 02:11
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 319 cladking 20-Feb-13 04:08
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 351 Thanos5150 22-Feb-13 05:31
I've tried hardened steel chisels 310 Ratcho 22-Feb-13 06:15
Re: I've tried hardened steel chisels 282 Susan Doris 22-Feb-13 07:15
Re: I've tried hardened steel chisels 315 Ratcho 22-Feb-13 17:51
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 320 Archae Solenhofen 23-Feb-13 05:15
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 310 cladking 23-Feb-13 15:13
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 172 Thanos5150 23-Feb-13 20:57
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 397 Archae Solenhofen 25-Feb-13 20:14
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 313 Susan Doris 24-Feb-13 15:49
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 325 wordsmyth 24-Feb-13 22:30
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 343 wordsmyth 20-Feb-13 02:22
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 327 Archae Solenhofen 20-Feb-13 03:47
How many swings would it take 342 Ratcho 20-Feb-13 06:29
Re: How many swings would it take 278 Susan Doris 20-Feb-13 17:31
Re: How many swings would it take 320 cladking 20-Feb-13 21:24
If you have the time... 292 Ratcho 22-Feb-13 22:48
Re: How many swings would it take 335 Archae Solenhofen 20-Feb-13 18:14
Re: How many swings would it take 269 cladking 20-Feb-13 21:30
Re: How many swings would it take 350 wordsmyth 21-Feb-13 08:39
Re: How many swings would it take 358 Scott Creighton 21-Feb-13 08:45
Re: How many swings would it take 298 Archae Solenhofen 21-Feb-13 17:32
Re: How many swings would it take 311 Scott Creighton 21-Feb-13 18:04
Re: How many swings would it take 284 Archae Solenhofen 21-Feb-13 19:55
Re: How many swings would it take 287 Scott Creighton 21-Feb-13 21:40
I'd still like to know 294 Ratcho 21-Feb-13 22:02
Re: I'd still like to know 327 Archae Solenhofen 21-Feb-13 22:43
Re: I'd still like to know 286 wordsmyth 21-Feb-13 23:47
Re: I'd still like to know 294 wordsmyth 22-Feb-13 00:10
Re: I'd still like to know 316 Archae Solenhofen 22-Feb-13 00:11
Re: Unfortunately, I'd still don't care... 304 wordsmyth 22-Feb-13 00:31
Re: Unfortunately, I'd still don't care... 333 Archae Solenhofen 22-Feb-13 00:47
Re: Unfortunately, I'd still don't care... 303 wordsmyth 22-Feb-13 07:47
Re: Unfortunately, I'd still don't care... 305 Archae Solenhofen 22-Feb-13 16:42
Re: How many swings would it take 354 wordsmyth 22-Feb-13 00:20
Re: How many swings would it take 253 Susan Doris 21-Feb-13 13:44
Re: How many swings would it take 269 Archae Solenhofen 21-Feb-13 16:09
Re: How many swings would it take 296 Scott Creighton 21-Feb-13 18:59
Re: How many swings would it take 315 Archae Solenhofen 21-Feb-13 20:06
Re: How many swings would it take 296 Scott Creighton 21-Feb-13 21:43
Re: How many swings would it take 298 Archae Solenhofen 21-Feb-13 22:22
Re: How many swings would it take 293 Scott Creighton 21-Feb-13 22:30
Re: How many swings would it take 292 Archae Solenhofen 21-Feb-13 22:48
Re: How many swings would it take 313 Morten 22-Feb-13 10:52
Re: How many swings would it take 299 wordsmyth 22-Feb-13 23:30
Re: How many swings would it take 414 Scott Creighton 21-Feb-13 22:55
Mod Note > Off Topic Sub-Thread 196 Dr. Troglodyte 22-Feb-13 00:01
Re: How many swings would it take 300 richarddullum 22-Feb-13 03:20
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 260 Audrey 13-Feb-13 23:21
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 313 Susan Doris 14-Feb-13 14:59
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 259 cladking 14-Feb-13 16:07
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 311 Archae Solenhofen 14-Feb-13 15:29
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 323 cladking 14-Feb-13 16:14
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 345 Archae Solenhofen 14-Feb-13 16:41
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 291 cladking 14-Feb-13 18:57
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 314 Thanos5150 20-Jan-13 19:04
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 249 Workjay 21-Jan-13 02:42
Re: Myth and Truth 291 Thunderbird 20-Jan-13 17:33
Re: Myth and Truth 322 wordsmyth 20-Jan-13 18:34
Re: Myth and Truth 335 cladking 20-Jan-13 22:30
Re: Myth and Truth 350 Glorious 20-Jan-13 23:31
Re: Myth and Truth 318 cladking 21-Jan-13 00:26
Re: Perception 434 Thunderbird 21-Jan-13 04:15
Re: Perception 330 Glorious 21-Jan-13 05:34
Re: Perception 283 Chris Jordan 21-Jan-13 07:45
Re: Perception 317 loveritas 21-Jan-13 11:32
Re: Change of Perception 340 Chris Jordan 21-Jan-13 16:20
Re: words/music /NT 243 Thunderbird 21-Jan-13 04:45
Re: words/music /NT 313 wordsmyth 23-Jan-13 08:14
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 327 Anomalies 21-Jan-13 16:53
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 296 Workjay 21-Jan-13 17:59
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 302 Anomalies 21-Jan-13 18:13
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 337 Susan Doris 28-Jan-13 16:29
Who knew? 320 cladking 28-Jan-13 22:07
Re: Who knew? 434 Susan Doris 01-Feb-13 18:25
Re: Who knew? 306 cladking 01-Feb-13 20:42
Egyptology Debunked; they wouldn't know a snake if it bit them. 343 cladking 28-Jan-13 21:04
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 279 cladking 21-Jan-13 18:16
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 296 Anomalies 22-Jan-13 15:09
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 232 cladking 22-Jan-13 15:39
'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 311 Anomalies 22-Jan-13 15:54
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 329 Workjay 22-Jan-13 16:10
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 216 Anomalies 22-Jan-13 16:32
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 266 Workjay 22-Jan-13 21:06
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 334 Anomalies 23-Jan-13 14:53
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 290 Workjay 23-Jan-13 21:10
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 301 Anomalies 23-Jan-13 21:51
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 291 Workjay 23-Jan-13 22:58
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 265 richarddullum 24-Jan-13 02:21
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 267 Workjay 24-Jan-13 02:46
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 232 richarddullum 24-Jan-13 14:33
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 314 Aine 24-Jan-13 13:00
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 300 richarddullum 25-Jan-13 01:57
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 268 Susan Doris 27-Jan-13 13:02
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 323 Susan Doris 02-Feb-13 14:01
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 299 Anomalies 05-Feb-13 15:41
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 279 Workjay 05-Feb-13 17:39
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 313 Anomalies 05-Feb-13 21:25
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 314 Workjay 06-Feb-13 17:31
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 297 Ratcho 06-Feb-13 19:02
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 268 Anomalies 06-Feb-13 21:54
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 262 Workjay 06-Feb-13 22:19
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 192 cladking 22-Jan-13 16:29
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 186 Anomalies 21-Jan-13 16:07
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 189 Workjay 21-Jan-13 16:13
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 178 carolb 21-Jan-13 17:52
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 177 Anomalies 21-Jan-13 18:00
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 173 carolb 21-Jan-13 18:05
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 192 Anomalies 21-Jan-13 19:01
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 202 carolb 21-Jan-13 19:07
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 185 Anomalies 21-Jan-13 19:21
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 211 carolb 21-Jan-13 19:42
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 173 Anomalies 21-Jan-13 19:58
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 198 carolb 21-Jan-13 20:17
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 177 Anomalies 21-Jan-13 20:27
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 198 Susan Doris 14-Feb-13 14:42
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 183 Anomalies 22-Jan-13 14:50
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 159 wordsmyth 23-Jan-13 08:35
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 193 Workjay 22-Jan-13 02:20
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 194 richarddullum 22-Jan-13 14:31
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 227 Aine 22-Jan-13 14:49
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 194 Anomalies 22-Jan-13 14:56
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 241 Aine 22-Jan-13 15:29
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 243 Aine 22-Jan-13 15:47
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 179 Anomalies 22-Jan-13 16:08
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 265 Aine 22-Jan-13 16:23
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 253 Aine 22-Jan-13 16:24
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 239 richarddullum 23-Jan-13 04:50
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 182 wordsmyth 23-Jan-13 08:52
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 195 richarddullum 23-Jan-13 14:28
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 222 wordsmyth 23-Jan-13 15:19
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 254 Aine 23-Jan-13 15:42
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 178 richarddullum 24-Jan-13 02:03
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 242 Aine 23-Jan-13 14:39
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 224 wordsmyth 23-Jan-13 15:09
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 256 Aine 24-Jan-13 13:19
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 203 wordsmyth 25-Jan-13 05:08
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 204 Glorious 25-Jan-13 05:49
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 243 Susan Doris 25-Jan-13 06:47
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 181 wordsmyth 25-Jan-13 07:03
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 181 Glorious 25-Jan-13 07:32
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 167 wordsmyth 25-Jan-13 08:09
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 168 cladking 25-Jan-13 16:32
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 189 Susan Doris 23-Jan-13 06:54
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 206 Glorious 23-Jan-13 07:43
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 249 Aine 23-Jan-13 14:47
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 215 BobbyH 22-Jan-13 19:21
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 233 Aine 22-Jan-13 19:41
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 191 BobbyH 22-Jan-13 19:56
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 240 Aine 22-Jan-13 19:59
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 244 Aine 22-Jan-13 20:09
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 218 Glorious 22-Jan-13 20:52
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 188 BobbyH 22-Jan-13 14:57
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 192 Workjay 22-Jan-13 15:08
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 205 BobbyH 22-Jan-13 15:41
Episode: "Destination Orion" was very well done 190 David L 17-Jan-13 17:35
Re: Episode: "Destination Orion" was very well done 169 Thomas Brophy 03-Mar-13 23:30
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 123 wordsmyth 23-Jan-13 08:10
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 224 Archae Solenhofen 25-Jan-13 03:28
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 220 wordsmyth 25-Jan-13 06:32
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 276 Thanos5150 25-Jan-13 18:22
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 208 Sangreal Sea 25-Jan-13 19:11
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 197 Warwick 11-Feb-13 22:32
The latest episode "Alien Abductions" is the most absurd yet 181 David L 23-Feb-13 23:41
Re: The latest episode "Alien Abductions" is the most absurd yet 179 Anomalies 25-Feb-13 19:00
Re: The latest episode "Alien Abductions" is the most absurd yet 140 David L 26-Feb-13 01:44
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 124 LanceHall 23-Mar-13 00:28


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