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How is it a "straw man" when numerous fringe authors are claming granite can only be scratched with diamond?

Because I'm not claiming it, nor is anyone in the video which I specifically wanted to debate about. On the other hand, you incessantly bring it up, on five different occasions already in this brief exchange, six including the above, and then you proceed to refute it. This behavior being the very definition of a strawman, a false argument created to misrepresent an opponent's position. FYI, I guess...

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This false notion in its various forms is a key aspect of spreading advanced technology claims through many fringe media of this sort.

Hilarious! I mean, seriously, if you think that's one of the "key aspects" to the ancient advanced-technology theory, well, then I feel embarrassed for you because after ten years, I would think you had a better grasp on your opponent's position than THAT...

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What technology was that.... specific examples of such

Did you forget what we were talking about? I was generally referring to your useless examples of "simple technology". More specifically, I was referring to your wonderful home-made drill made from a popsicle stick, rubber band, and kitty litter.

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(BTW that is not the stone products claimed to be made by such, but the actual technology that produced them)? I suggest finding it somewhere in Nicholson & Shaw (2000). Good luck in that because it is pretty clear it's not there.

That's wonderful. Unfortunately, I don't care. But anyway, nice try suggesting what my argument should be and where I should go to find out your suggested argument is wrong.

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Maybe you think you can get away with claiming these lost ones were extremely tidy, but I doubt it.

So then, you are unaware of the fact that the only materials that don't corrode, degrade, and/or decompose within about 500 years are solid stone and solid gold? Not to mention, the older a civilization is, the less there is artifact-wise, mainly because the archaeological record preserves only a very small fraction of objects that somehow manage to get buried in the first place. Just to name a few of the more obvious reasons...

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I belive I have asked Mr. Dunn if his spiraling scratch is visible on the image below and I also asked him to mark its location on such so we can all see what he was measuring and I am still waiting (it will be10 years on the 26th of January).

Did he have to file a restraining order against you then?

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As pointed out by Mr. Dunn, and should be quite clear from the photo below, some of Petrie's observation about such are not consistent with reality.

To an expert, much less a layman, nothing is "clear" from that photo. Sorry.

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Does he also believe that granite can only be scratched with diamond?

Seven times now.

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The bow-drill experiments of Stocks (1993, 2003) cut granite into a tapered core, it rough polished the sides, and it produced striations on the surface.

Let's see a video then. Like I specifically requested.

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So all the fringe have is the megaliths and little to nothing else other than gross exaggeration about such, like clams of 100s of 200+ ton blocks and 2.5 million blocks with 0.01 tolerances?

I think you are forgetting about the team of Japanese engineers who scientifically proved that they could not build a 1/10 scale replica of the Great Pyramid (a measly 48 feet tall) neither with ancient technology nor modern technology. Among other things...

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Don't tell me ..... go tell the fringe authors claiming granite can only be scratched with diamond.

Eight times now.

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Did not Mr. Stocks do experiments using known/deduced ancient Egyptian technology?

Did you provide a video of these experiments, as requested? Because what is claimed to be possible on paper with most Egyptologists ignorant of basic engineering is usually harder to prove in reality.

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Ya, that's right, fringe authors insinuate that granite is equal to the hardest substance known, state the known ancients of orthodox archeology didn’t have access to diamond, invoke some unkown advanced technology to fill the imaginary void produced by such, and then hide behind the inability to test the claim.

How old are you? The reason I ask is because I have a strict policy against arguing with teenage boys and I'm starting to think your anonymous internet career as "Archae" might have began around the age of nine with some Egyptologist-Cub-Scout kind of organization, especially in light of your nom de plume...

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Lubicz role is mentioned in a number of Dr. Schoch’s publications as well Mr. West’s.

So then, about that citation you forgot to provide (again)...

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How about to correct your original construction, which was wrong..... if you don’t like it get it right first the next time.

I asked for a citation to a scholarly article about water erosion on the Sphinx prior to Schoch. Which has nothing to do with your (so-called) "correction". Sorry.

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It's pretty clear from the actual penetrations into the core masonry of the GP that it is masonry fill and not finely carved blocks... Care to enlighten us as to where your now clearly imaginary claim about "millions of 2.5 ton blocks with tolerances of .010 inch" popped into existence from?

So then, do you want to try again? Perhaps with a picture of your new-and-improved position. Since that picture you linked to is completely unrelated the above claim. The claim you've now suddenly changed your tune about.

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I was under the impression you thought exaggeration of block weights were lies and anyone who grossly exaggerated those weights were liars....

Somehow you managed to be just as incoherent as before. Perhaps you should try saying the whole thing completely differently. Preferably with a point, too, this time. Thanks in advance!

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>But seriously, I repeat: Why should anyone take an anonymous
>person, who is hiding behind a fake name and whose
>age/expertise is completely unknown, seriously about any of
>these topics? Someone who professes certainty that it was done
>with "simple technology", despite the obvious fact such
>certainty is clearly lacking? Someone who can barely manage to
>make a credible case for their position STRICTLY arguing
>against the most far-out claims of the Ancient Alien
>proponents? Please, enlighten me...

Do you really think that only "far-out" ancient Alien proponents are making these types of claims? Apparently you missed the section on stone enigmas in Fingerprints of the Gods.

So then, what you mean to say is that there is no good reason to take some anonymous random person seriously, one who constantly misrepresents his opponents arguments, incessantly brings up the same strawmen every chance he gets, and also suggest arguments for his opponents and then proves them wrong in the same sentence... Glad to know I can finally wash my hands of this sad excuse for a "debate"...

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It's clear to me you didn't bother to actually look at the image I just posted..... care to guess what it weighed as a larger block in the quarry before in was moved so it could be carved into a 600+ ton column of granite and perched so precariously on it's large base? You were the one going on about the Russians lying about a block weight they moved, so can you tell us what they were also lying about here?

You mean the Alexander column erected in 1830? Quarried with nineteenth century equipment, transported by barge, then placed upright by 3000 men AFTER it had been delivered to St. Petersburg? Kind of a bad example, given its meager weight and the amount of modern technology involved, don't you think?

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Because you were asking for one...

"Anyway, if any of those involved with this program are on these boards, I'd be more than happy to debate you on this subject (even though I'm not an ancient alien proponent, I am convinced of a technologically-advanced culture in our remote past). And if they aren't on here, I'll gladly extend that offer to anyone who thinks this program is remotely accurate and/or honest. Cheers."

Notice the debate request was specifically about the 'Ancient Aliens Debunked' program and/or those involved with it, the video you said you haven't watched yet? Not to mention, based on the amount of strawmen you bring up and then refute, I don't really think my involvement is necessary in your debate with yourself here. (Although this is still kind of fun. But just barely...)

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Enlighten us as to why it's funny...... remember it's not because granite can only be scratched with diamond (that is not funny either).

Is that nine times, or ten? I've lost count... But seriously, I have to say that continuing this pitiful excuse for a "debate" is highly unlikely. Of course, feel free to continue it with yourself, but from here forward it will be a little bit different for you, as I probably won't be replying to much of what you have to say. (Not much different, I imagine.) But anyway, I'm confident you can defeat yourself, with the proper strategy and some dumb luck, of course... Cheers.



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Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 316 Citizen Attorney 05-Jan-13 00:24
Debunker debunked? 356 drrayeye 05-Jan-13 05:15
Aliens is making people re-evaluate certain paradigms 433 Ratcho 05-Jan-13 06:22
How is it possible? 336 gulsbo 05-Jan-13 16:16
Entertainment industry rules OK; thumbs down to education 284 Richard Fusniak 05-Jan-13 16:57
Re: Entertainment industry rules OK; thumbs down to education 372 gulsbo 06-Jan-13 08:03
Re: Entertainment industry rules OK; thumbs down to education 335 Richard Fusniak 06-Jan-13 08:59
Re: Entertainment industry rules OK; thumbs down to education 350 gulsbo 07-Jan-13 21:07
Re: Entertainment industry rules OK; thumbs down to education 384 Richard Fusniak 08-Jan-13 00:36
Fuzzy 296 Dan Mc F 08-Jan-13 12:49
Re: Fuzzy 356 Richard Fusniak 08-Jan-13 13:12
Re: Entertainment industry rules OK; thumbs down to education 289 gulsbo 09-Jan-13 21:36
Re: Smithsonian never lies.... 502 Thunderbird 23-Mar-13 03:39
who said aliens 333 Citizen Attorney 05-Jan-13 16:42
Re: who said aliens 339 David L 05-Jan-13 17:42
Re: who said aliens 374 Citizen Attorney 05-Jan-13 21:23
Agreed 362 NetWorkAngel 05-Jan-13 22:05
Re: Agreed 324 Citizen Attorney 06-Jan-13 19:16
Re: who said aliens 364 David L 07-Jan-13 01:16
Re: who said aliens 399 Thanos5150 06-Jan-13 18:38
Re: who said aliens 313 Citizen Attorney 06-Jan-13 19:17
Re: who said aliens 406 Thanos5150 06-Jan-13 22:45
Ancient Aliens' Debunked - Review 661 Thanos5150 07-Jan-13 02:23
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 370 MJT 08-Jan-13 13:58
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 352 Susan Doris 08-Jan-13 14:33
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 376 Richard Fusniak 08-Jan-13 15:19
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 416 Bobajot 10-Jan-13 04:01
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 401 wordsmyth 13-Jan-13 03:26
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 349 Archae Solenhofen 13-Jan-13 04:53
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 346 wordsmyth 15-Jan-13 01:44
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 385 richarddullum 15-Jan-13 03:28
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 319 wordsmyth 15-Jan-13 07:12
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Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 385 Merrell 15-Jan-13 10:55
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 400 Archae Solenhofen 15-Jan-13 05:21
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 429 wordsmyth 15-Jan-13 08:24
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 344 Merrell 15-Jan-13 09:55
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 406 wordsmyth 15-Jan-13 10:26
Re: Archae Solenhofen = "Ancient Limestone" 396 Thanos5150 15-Jan-13 17:39
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 376 Archae Solenhofen 15-Jan-13 19:09
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 368 wordsmyth 15-Jan-13 22:26
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 326 Archae Solenhofen 16-Jan-13 03:29
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Re: Vyse Good.....alternative....Evil 377 Thanos5150 24-Feb-13 23:50
Re: Vyse Good.....alternative....Evil 352 Scott Creighton 25-Feb-13 00:18
Re: Vyse Good.....alternative....Evil 432 Martin Stower 25-Feb-13 17:57
Re: desperation.... 391 Thunderbird 25-Feb-13 21:20
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Re: Khufu cartouche Cambell's chamber 402 Thunderbird 18-Mar-13 17:33
Re: Vyse Good.....alternative....Evil 358 wordsmyth 25-Feb-13 22:25
Re: Vyse Good.....alternative....Evil 360 Martin Stower 26-Feb-13 15:59
Re: Vyse Good.....alternative....Evil 352 wordsmyth 26-Feb-13 21:41
Re: Vyse Good.....alternative....Evil 370 Thanos5150 26-Feb-13 18:57
Re: Vyse Good.....alternative....Evil 375 Martin Stower 27-Feb-13 18:46
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Re: Vyse Good.....alternative....Evil 370 Martin Stower 28-Feb-13 16:57
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Re: Vyse Good.....alternative....Evil 351 Martin Stower 28-Feb-13 18:08
Re: Vyse Good.....alternative....Evil 382 Merrell 28-Feb-13 09:33
Re: Can we seriously believe that Alford has a clue.... 369 Thunderbird 25-Feb-13 16:41
Re: Can we seriously believe that Alford has a clue.... 389 Martin Stower 25-Feb-13 18:29
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 368 Archae Solenhofen 15-Jan-13 18:41
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 334 Thanos5150 15-Jan-13 22:13
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 343 Archae Solenhofen 15-Jan-13 22:44
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 422 Thanos5150 16-Jan-13 04:40
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 336 Archae Solenhofen 16-Jan-13 06:02
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 378 Thanos5150 16-Jan-13 06:54
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 402 Archae Solenhofen 16-Jan-13 09:09
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Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 363 Archae Solenhofen 16-Jan-13 20:21
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 390 Thanos5150 16-Jan-13 21:21
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 287 Archae Solenhofen 17-Jan-13 04:57
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 370 Thanos5150 17-Jan-13 05:42
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 369 Archae Solenhofen 17-Jan-13 07:05
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Re: Fingerprints 1996 - 200 ton blocks 365 Archae Solenhofen 17-Jan-13 17:44
Re: Fingerprints 1996 - 200 ton blocks 213 Archae Solenhofen 17-Jan-13 22:41
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Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 390 Thanos5150 17-Jan-13 23:46
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 368 wordsmyth 18-Jan-13 03:45
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Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 322 Archae Solenhofen 23-Feb-13 04:49
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 378 Bobajot 23-Feb-13 12:31
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 365 Archae Solenhofen 23-Feb-13 20:25
Science Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 353 cladking 23-Feb-13 21:29
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 340 Bobajot 24-Feb-13 02:34
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 340 Archae Solenhofen 25-Feb-13 20:21
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 349 Bobajot 26-Feb-13 03:01
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 290 wordsmyth 23-Feb-13 21:21
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 324 Thanos5150 23-Feb-13 21:32
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 293 Thanos5150 23-Feb-13 22:10
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 333 wordsmyth 23-Feb-13 22:18
We would probably be amazed 263 Ratcho 24-Feb-13 00:52
Re: We would probably be amazed 259 wordsmyth 24-Feb-13 03:48
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 328 Archae Solenhofen 24-Feb-13 01:50
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 343 wordsmyth 24-Feb-13 02:44
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 322 wordsmyth 23-Feb-13 05:18
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 307 Archae Solenhofen 23-Feb-13 04:41
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 263 Archae Solenhofen 20-Feb-13 02:11
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 341 cladking 20-Feb-13 04:08
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 382 Thanos5150 22-Feb-13 05:31
I've tried hardened steel chisels 331 Ratcho 22-Feb-13 06:15
Re: I've tried hardened steel chisels 306 Susan Doris 22-Feb-13 07:15
Re: I've tried hardened steel chisels 345 Ratcho 22-Feb-13 17:51
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 346 Archae Solenhofen 23-Feb-13 05:15
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 333 cladking 23-Feb-13 15:13
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 188 Thanos5150 23-Feb-13 20:57
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 427 Archae Solenhofen 25-Feb-13 20:14
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 337 Susan Doris 24-Feb-13 15:49
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 347 wordsmyth 24-Feb-13 22:30
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 366 wordsmyth 20-Feb-13 02:22
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 352 Archae Solenhofen 20-Feb-13 03:47
How many swings would it take 365 Ratcho 20-Feb-13 06:29
Re: How many swings would it take 306 Susan Doris 20-Feb-13 17:31
Re: How many swings would it take 339 cladking 20-Feb-13 21:24
If you have the time... 310 Ratcho 22-Feb-13 22:48
Re: How many swings would it take 362 Archae Solenhofen 20-Feb-13 18:14
Re: How many swings would it take 290 cladking 20-Feb-13 21:30
Re: How many swings would it take 374 wordsmyth 21-Feb-13 08:39
Re: How many swings would it take 384 Scott Creighton 21-Feb-13 08:45
Re: How many swings would it take 314 Archae Solenhofen 21-Feb-13 17:32
Re: How many swings would it take 338 Scott Creighton 21-Feb-13 18:04
Re: How many swings would it take 303 Archae Solenhofen 21-Feb-13 19:55
Re: How many swings would it take 321 Scott Creighton 21-Feb-13 21:40
I'd still like to know 314 Ratcho 21-Feb-13 22:02
Re: I'd still like to know 347 Archae Solenhofen 21-Feb-13 22:43
Re: I'd still like to know 306 wordsmyth 21-Feb-13 23:47
Re: I'd still like to know 308 wordsmyth 22-Feb-13 00:10
Re: I'd still like to know 338 Archae Solenhofen 22-Feb-13 00:11
Re: Unfortunately, I'd still don't care... 326 wordsmyth 22-Feb-13 00:31
Re: Unfortunately, I'd still don't care... 350 Archae Solenhofen 22-Feb-13 00:47
Re: Unfortunately, I'd still don't care... 326 wordsmyth 22-Feb-13 07:47
Re: Unfortunately, I'd still don't care... 328 Archae Solenhofen 22-Feb-13 16:42
Re: How many swings would it take 371 wordsmyth 22-Feb-13 00:20
Re: How many swings would it take 270 Susan Doris 21-Feb-13 13:44
Re: How many swings would it take 279 Archae Solenhofen 21-Feb-13 16:09
Re: How many swings would it take 315 Scott Creighton 21-Feb-13 18:59
Re: How many swings would it take 341 Archae Solenhofen 21-Feb-13 20:06
Re: How many swings would it take 322 Scott Creighton 21-Feb-13 21:43
Re: How many swings would it take 335 Archae Solenhofen 21-Feb-13 22:22
Re: How many swings would it take 318 Scott Creighton 21-Feb-13 22:30
Re: How many swings would it take 313 Archae Solenhofen 21-Feb-13 22:48
Re: How many swings would it take 333 Morten 22-Feb-13 10:52
Re: How many swings would it take 320 wordsmyth 22-Feb-13 23:30
Re: How many swings would it take 441 Scott Creighton 21-Feb-13 22:55
Mod Note > Off Topic Sub-Thread 212 Dr. Troglodyte 22-Feb-13 00:01
Re: How many swings would it take 330 richarddullum 22-Feb-13 03:20
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 280 Audrey 13-Feb-13 23:21
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 338 Susan Doris 14-Feb-13 14:59
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 282 cladking 14-Feb-13 16:07
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 341 Archae Solenhofen 14-Feb-13 15:29
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 341 cladking 14-Feb-13 16:14
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 368 Archae Solenhofen 14-Feb-13 16:41
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 316 cladking 14-Feb-13 18:57
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 334 Thanos5150 20-Jan-13 19:04
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 268 Workjay 21-Jan-13 02:42
Re: Myth and Truth 321 Thunderbird 20-Jan-13 17:33
Re: Myth and Truth 340 wordsmyth 20-Jan-13 18:34
Re: Myth and Truth 354 cladking 20-Jan-13 22:30
Re: Myth and Truth 381 Glorious 20-Jan-13 23:31
Re: Myth and Truth 341 cladking 21-Jan-13 00:26
Re: Perception 454 Thunderbird 21-Jan-13 04:15
Re: Perception 353 Glorious 21-Jan-13 05:34
Re: Perception 296 Chris Jordan 21-Jan-13 07:45
Re: Perception 340 loveritas 21-Jan-13 11:32
Re: Change of Perception 361 Chris Jordan 21-Jan-13 16:20
Re: words/music /NT 268 Thunderbird 21-Jan-13 04:45
Re: words/music /NT 339 wordsmyth 23-Jan-13 08:14
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 349 Anomalies 21-Jan-13 16:53
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 322 Workjay 21-Jan-13 17:59
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 328 Anomalies 21-Jan-13 18:13
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 370 Susan Doris 28-Jan-13 16:29
Who knew? 347 cladking 28-Jan-13 22:07
Re: Who knew? 460 Susan Doris 01-Feb-13 18:25
Re: Who knew? 328 cladking 01-Feb-13 20:42
Egyptology Debunked; they wouldn't know a snake if it bit them. 362 cladking 28-Jan-13 21:04
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 298 cladking 21-Jan-13 18:16
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 317 Anomalies 22-Jan-13 15:09
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 263 cladking 22-Jan-13 15:39
'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 331 Anomalies 22-Jan-13 15:54
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 349 Workjay 22-Jan-13 16:10
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 239 Anomalies 22-Jan-13 16:32
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 288 Workjay 22-Jan-13 21:06
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 356 Anomalies 23-Jan-13 14:53
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 318 Workjay 23-Jan-13 21:10
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 326 Anomalies 23-Jan-13 21:51
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 320 Workjay 23-Jan-13 22:58
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 287 richarddullum 24-Jan-13 02:21
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 290 Workjay 24-Jan-13 02:46
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 249 richarddullum 24-Jan-13 14:33
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 339 Aine 24-Jan-13 13:00
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 318 richarddullum 25-Jan-13 01:57
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 289 Susan Doris 27-Jan-13 13:02
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 350 Susan Doris 02-Feb-13 14:01
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 320 Anomalies 05-Feb-13 15:41
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 304 Workjay 05-Feb-13 17:39
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 336 Anomalies 05-Feb-13 21:25
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 336 Workjay 06-Feb-13 17:31
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 324 Ratcho 06-Feb-13 19:02
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 294 Anomalies 06-Feb-13 21:54
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 290 Workjay 06-Feb-13 22:19
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' - Why crazy now? 218 cladking 22-Jan-13 16:29
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 212 Anomalies 21-Jan-13 16:07
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 220 Workjay 21-Jan-13 16:13
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 196 carolb 21-Jan-13 17:52
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 205 Anomalies 21-Jan-13 18:00
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 201 carolb 21-Jan-13 18:05
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 211 Anomalies 21-Jan-13 19:01
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 223 carolb 21-Jan-13 19:07
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 209 Anomalies 21-Jan-13 19:21
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 232 carolb 21-Jan-13 19:42
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 200 Anomalies 21-Jan-13 19:58
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 217 carolb 21-Jan-13 20:17
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 200 Anomalies 21-Jan-13 20:27
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 222 Susan Doris 14-Feb-13 14:42
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 204 Anomalies 22-Jan-13 14:50
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 184 wordsmyth 23-Jan-13 08:35
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 220 Workjay 22-Jan-13 02:20
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 216 richarddullum 22-Jan-13 14:31
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 250 Aine 22-Jan-13 14:49
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 222 Anomalies 22-Jan-13 14:56
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 265 Aine 22-Jan-13 15:29
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 274 Aine 22-Jan-13 15:47
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 202 Anomalies 22-Jan-13 16:08
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 290 Aine 22-Jan-13 16:23
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 274 Aine 22-Jan-13 16:24
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 264 richarddullum 23-Jan-13 04:50
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 217 wordsmyth 23-Jan-13 08:52
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 216 richarddullum 23-Jan-13 14:28
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 249 wordsmyth 23-Jan-13 15:19
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 280 Aine 23-Jan-13 15:42
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 205 richarddullum 24-Jan-13 02:03
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 257 Aine 23-Jan-13 14:39
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 243 wordsmyth 23-Jan-13 15:09
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 280 Aine 24-Jan-13 13:19
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 229 wordsmyth 25-Jan-13 05:08
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 228 Glorious 25-Jan-13 05:49
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 276 Susan Doris 25-Jan-13 06:47
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 201 wordsmyth 25-Jan-13 07:03
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 218 Glorious 25-Jan-13 07:32
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 195 wordsmyth 25-Jan-13 08:09
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 185 cladking 25-Jan-13 16:32
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 217 Susan Doris 23-Jan-13 06:54
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 232 Glorious 23-Jan-13 07:43
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 279 Aine 23-Jan-13 14:47
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 234 BobbyH 22-Jan-13 19:21
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 256 Aine 22-Jan-13 19:41
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 219 BobbyH 22-Jan-13 19:56
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 264 Aine 22-Jan-13 19:59
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 275 Aine 22-Jan-13 20:09
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 250 Glorious 22-Jan-13 20:52
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 215 BobbyH 22-Jan-13 14:57
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 217 Workjay 22-Jan-13 15:08
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 230 BobbyH 22-Jan-13 15:41
Episode: "Destination Orion" was very well done 213 David L 17-Jan-13 17:35
Re: Episode: "Destination Orion" was very well done 195 Thomas Brophy 03-Mar-13 23:30
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 136 wordsmyth 23-Jan-13 08:10
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 251 Archae Solenhofen 25-Jan-13 03:28
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 245 wordsmyth 25-Jan-13 06:32
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 300 Thanos5150 25-Jan-13 18:22
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 229 Sangreal Sea 25-Jan-13 19:11
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 221 Warwick 11-Feb-13 22:32
The latest episode "Alien Abductions" is the most absurd yet 204 David L 23-Feb-13 23:41
Re: The latest episode "Alien Abductions" is the most absurd yet 208 Anomalies 25-Feb-13 19:00
Re: The latest episode "Alien Abductions" is the most absurd yet 159 David L 26-Feb-13 01:44
Re: 'Ancient Aliens' Debunked - how Megalithic sites were built 141 LanceHall 23-Mar-13 00:28


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