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Archae said (to Mr. Von Daniken):

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Why is it being mentioned in "Chariots" that fifty ton monoliths were all that could be moved until recently..... when the largest weight known to have been moved by human power using relatively simple technology is the transport of the 1200+ ton granite block used for the equestrian statue of Peter the Great's base at St Petersburg?

Considering that the original, uncarved estimated weight of the Thunder Stone was 1500 tons and this estimate is based on it's original rectangular hexahedron(ish) shape (7 × 14 × 9 m), what is your source for the 1200+ ton figure and how exactly was this figure determined considering the wave-like shape of the carved pedestal? (Which BTW, looks considerably smaller than the drawings of the original block, particularly when gauged to the height of bystanders.) Also, can you confirm that the density of red/pink granite the same as regular granite?

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It was moved 7 km over land in the 1780's.

Which ultimately took over nine months to move the stone less than four miles!

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They used levers to raise it up, mounted it on a platform of logs and then pull it over bronze balls along iron rails with grooves. Simple and innovative..... no need for technologically inferior, imaginary aliens to do so.

Ignoring your snarky/rude comments directed at Mr. Von Daniken, you appear to be claiming that Industrial Revolution era technology, such as bronze ball bearings and iron rails, is "relatively simple technology" and that they were possessed by some group in antiquity, correct? So please tell us exactly who had this Industrial Revolution era technology in antiquity?

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I say "technologically inferior" because modern cranes and tunneljacking sleds are moving things more than just considerably larger than any of the real and even the grossly exaggerated and/or imaginary blocks attributed to the ancients.

Source please? I'd love to know exactly what modern cranes and tunneljacking sleds are moving more than 1200+ ton objects. Thanks.



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