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Titus Livius wrote:

> However, I think the fact of finding or not finding "treasures"
> or other artifacts inside the pyramids is not the core of the
> question. The main question, as many alternative researchers
> have pointed out, is focused on these facts:
>
> 1) The pyramid age lasted around 1000 years. Too many years and
> too little evidence of pharaos' graves -and bodies- inside the
> pyramids (but then: what was the purpose of inner chambers and
> passages?). An extraordinary feat by tomb robbers?

Most alternative researchers as we know are only focussed on the Gizamids (G1 in particular) and sometimes by extension on the so-called "great pyramids" (all 3rd and 4th dyn royal pyramids). The periods / dynasties from which royal mortal remains have been found aren't of any interest to the alternative researchers.
The fourth dyn pyramids were the biggest, hence they attrackted the most attention throughout the centuries not only by tomb robbers but also by all kind off visitors and travellers who took "souvenirs" untill nothing of the grave goods was left.
Logical consequence, no extraordinary feat by tomb robbers needed.

> 2) When an intact "tomb" in a pyramid was finally found
> (Sekhemkhet's pyramid, excavated by Zecharia Goneim in 1950),
> the archaeologists found a sarcophagus with seals and garlands,
> but after removing the lid, they found no objects and no mummy
> inside. A cenotaph? Another theory difficult to prove.

Probably a "restoration burial" from a later period, a C14 dating of the garlands could confirm this.

> Anyway, the fact of not having the bodies, or funeral
> artifacts, does not mean that the pyramids were not intended to
> be tombs. In the same way, we need more solid evidence to
> confirm the pyramids were built to allocate the pharao's mummy.

Most solid evidence that the 4th dyn pyramids were tombs are of course several architectural feats they have in common with mastaba's. Internal / subterran chambers and corridors with porticuli and blocking stones and in several cases even sarcophagi.
Further evidece: The pyramids are in the middle of a necropolis / pyramid evolution also suggest the pyramids were tombs.
Quite frankly there's no reason at all to assume the 4th dyn pyramids were not tombs.
IMHO more evidence to confirm the (4th dyn) pyramids were built to allocate the pharao's mummy isn't going to be found (as you say below part of the evidence has been lost forever) but it isn't needed either.

> And other likely functions of the pyramids should be studied
> according to available evidence, even though we should consider
> that a critical part of the evidence has been lost forever, not
> to talk about certain features which still need further
> investigation and interpretation, for instance the "anomalous"
> shafts in the great pyramid, which don't appear in the rest of
> pyramids).

Agreed!

> Best regards
> Titus Livius

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