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cladking wrote:

> I think a better example might be the idea that the great
> pyramids were tombs because they are archetectually similar to
> tombs built by this society. Since they're all made out of
> stone by the same people I never really understood this
> argument at all.

Strange, it's all logic reasoning, nothing weird about it...

> From the idea they are tombs it follows they
> must have stood over incredibly important people; virtual gods.

Yes, in the 4th dyn divine kingship was at it's height.

> Since these people were so important then it just seems to
> follow that the people would have done anything at all for them
> even if it meant risking their lives and the economy itself
> dragging stones up ramps.

True enough, people got drafted into service but propaganda and indoctrination were also used.

> The absense of any evidence for ramps doesn't matter because we
> know they were tombs...

There's no absense of evidence for ramps. Ramps or no ramps has nothing to do with the pyramids being tombs.

> ...and the absense of direct cultural
> evidence they were tombs doesn't matter because they mustta
> used ramps.

And your definition of "direct cultural evidence" is...???
Again the unfounded pyramid-ramp connection...
BTW ramps have also been found in connection with mastaba's and temples, why make such a fuss when it comes to pyramids?

> It just doesn't matter what the evidence says
> because a whole "science" is based on the assumptions of tombs
> and ramps and it's way too late to start over now.

What the evidence says is the only thing that matters; and the evidence says the "great pyramids" were tombs. No amount of imagination or fantasy will change these hard facts.

> There are numerous tidbits in the PT that suggest thse could be
> almost anything including "recovery vaults".

With enough imagination you can "find" almost anything in the PT.

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Certainties and theories 313 Titus Livius 09-Apr-11 16:43
Re: Certainties and theories 283 Poster Boy 09-Apr-11 18:13
Re: Certainties and theories 186 Laird Scranton 09-Apr-11 19:01
Re: Certainties and theories 237 will2learn2000 09-Apr-11 19:15
Re: Certainties and theories 277 Titus Livius 09-Apr-11 19:53
Re: Certainties and theories 254 Laird Scranton 10-Apr-11 03:13
Re: Certainties and theories 276 Poster Boy 10-Apr-11 17:30
Re: Certainties and theories 241 Laird Scranton 10-Apr-11 19:31
Re: Certainties and theories 252 Poster Boy 11-Apr-11 15:46
Re: Certainties and theories 204 Titus Livius 11-Apr-11 19:06
Re: Certainties and theories 224 Laird Scranton 12-Apr-11 02:24
Re:Ancient telescopes? 244 will2learn2000 12-Apr-11 10:29
Re:Ancient telescopes? 196 Ronald1 12-Apr-11 14:37
Re: 'Ancient Egyptian telescopes' and the Eye of Horus. 264 Ronald1 12-Apr-11 14:48
Re: 'Ancient Egyptian telescopes' and the Eye of Horus. 269 cladking 12-Apr-11 16:05
Re: 'Let's get real .....' ??? 231 Ronald1 12-Apr-11 18:36
Re: 'Let's get real .....' ??? 211 cladking 12-Apr-11 19:41
Re: 'Let's get real .....' ??? 197 will2learn2000 12-Apr-11 20:11
Re: 'Let's get real .....' ??? 264 Ronald1 12-Apr-11 22:23
Re: 'Ancient Egyptian telescopes' and the Eye of Horus. 193 Sirfiroth 12-Apr-11 16:15
Re: 'Ancient Egyptian telescopes' and the Eye of Horus. 251 will2learn2000 12-Apr-11 19:56
Re: 'Ancient Egyptian telescopes' and the Eye of Horus. 263 Ronald1 12-Apr-11 22:37
Re: 'Ancient Egyptian telescopes' and the Eye of Horus. 190 will2learn2000 13-Apr-11 08:10
Re:Ancient telescopes? 264 Poster Boy 12-Apr-11 15:53
Re: The Dogon's 'astronomical knowledge' ... 184 Ronald1 12-Apr-11 16:32
Re: The Dogon's 'astronomical knowledge' ... 262 Poster Boy 12-Apr-11 16:58
Re: The Dogon's 'astronomical knowledge' ... 246 Laird Scranton 12-Apr-11 19:31
lingering questions 251 Poster Boy 12-Apr-11 19:49
Re: lingering questions 178 Laird Scranton 12-Apr-11 20:06
Re: lingering questions 278 Poster Boy 12-Apr-11 20:12
Re: lingering questions 216 Laird Scranton 12-Apr-11 22:23
Re: lingering questions 295 Poster Boy 13-Apr-11 06:21
Re: lingering questions 235 Laird Scranton 13-Apr-11 00:11
Occam's Chisel 295 Poster Boy 14-Apr-11 00:03
Re: Occam's Chisel 235 Laird Scranton 14-Apr-11 00:21
Re: Occam's Chisel 230 Ronald1 14-Apr-11 00:28
Re: Occam's Chisel 257 Laird Scranton 14-Apr-11 01:00
'Organic' Information 221 Poster Boy 15-Apr-11 23:14
Re: Occam's Chisel 261 cladking 14-Apr-11 01:13
Re: The Dogon's 'astronomical knowledge' ... 247 cladking 12-Apr-11 19:45
Re: Certainties and theories 231 drrayeye 09-Apr-11 19:58
Re: Certainties and theories 261 Laird Scranton 10-Apr-11 03:16
Re: Certainties and theories 232 Titus Livius 10-Apr-11 12:11
Re: Certainties and theories 284 Poster Boy 10-Apr-11 17:25
Re: Certainties and theories 226 will2learn2000 09-Apr-11 18:49
Re: Certainties and theories 253 drrayeye 09-Apr-11 20:08
Re: Certainties and theories 248 NetWorkAngel 10-Apr-11 04:27
Re: Certainties and theories 210 Titus Livius 10-Apr-11 12:24
Re: Certainties and theories 266 Poster Boy 10-Apr-11 17:54
Re: Certainties and theories 268 NetWorkAngel 10-Apr-11 17:59
Re: Pseudo-science. 211 Ronald1 10-Apr-11 11:04
Re: Pseudo-science. 252 Titus Livius 10-Apr-11 16:45
Re: Pseudo-science. 261 cladking 10-Apr-11 22:46
Pseudo-science vs. Scientism 232 drrayeye 10-Apr-11 17:39
Well said. Nothing to add. 223 cladking 10-Apr-11 22:48
Re: Pseudo-science. 246 Thunderbird 10-Apr-11 20:43
Re: Pseudo-science. 278 Ronald1 10-Apr-11 22:33
Re: four basic contradictions of continental drift. 271 Thunderbird 11-Apr-11 02:15
Re: Pseudo-science. 229 cladking 10-Apr-11 22:40
Re: Divine individuals. 257 Ronald1 12-Apr-11 15:51
Re: Divine individuals. 255 cladking 12-Apr-11 17:21
Re: Divine individuals. 247 Ronald1 12-Apr-11 18:22
Re: Divine individuals. 258 cladking 12-Apr-11 21:40
Re: Pseudo-science. 245 charly 13-Apr-11 13:00
Facts Vs belief. 333 cladking 13-Apr-11 15:06
Re: Facts Vs belief. 225 Ronald1 13-Apr-11 15:24
Re: Facts Vs belief. 206 AmadeusD 14-Apr-11 01:05
Re: Facts Vs belief. 216 cladking 14-Apr-11 01:30
What Mystery??? 245 Warwick 14-Apr-11 04:48
Re: What Mystery??? 253 cladking 14-Apr-11 05:17
Re: What Mystery??? 242 Warwick 14-Apr-11 05:28
Re: What Mystery??? 251 cladking 14-Apr-11 05:52
Re: What Mystery??? 318 Warwick 14-Apr-11 06:06
Re: What Mystery??? 257 cladking 14-Apr-11 06:18
Re: What Mystery??? 256 AmadeusD 14-Apr-11 10:20
Re: What Mystery??? 268 Ronald1 14-Apr-11 12:04
Re: What Mystery??? 253 AmadeusD 14-Apr-11 13:51
Re: What Mystery??? 244 Ronald1 14-Apr-11 16:09
Re: What Mystery??? 254 AmadeusD 14-Apr-11 18:52
Great Scott!!! 248 Warwick 14-Apr-11 19:56
Re: Great Scott!!! 234 AmadeusD 15-Apr-11 04:18
Re: What Mystery??? 227 Ronald1 15-Apr-11 08:02
Re: What Mystery??? 196 AmadeusD 18-Apr-11 18:16
Re: Talking about lawyers ..... 200 Ronald1 15-Apr-11 09:27
Re: Talking about lawyers ..... 255 AmadeusD 18-Apr-11 18:19
Re: What Mystery??? 242 cladking 14-Apr-11 22:21
Re: What Mystery??? 230 Ronald1 14-Apr-11 22:31
Re: What Mystery??? 266 cladking 14-Apr-11 22:39
Re: What Mystery??? 235 Ronald1 14-Apr-11 22:51
Re: What Mystery??? 158 cladking 14-Apr-11 23:02
Re:the fact is still the pyramids changed 206 Thunderbird 16-Apr-11 03:37
Re:the fact is still the pyramids changed 264 cladking 16-Apr-11 05:06
Re: What Mystery??? 258 cladking 14-Apr-11 15:03
Re: What Mystery??? 233 Ronald1 14-Apr-11 16:18
Re: What Mystery??? 248 cladking 14-Apr-11 22:25
MY Dear Sir 223 Warwick 14-Apr-11 17:21
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Re: Pseudo-science. 214 AmadeusD 14-Apr-11 00:59
Re: Pseudo-science. 243 Warwick 14-Apr-11 05:38
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Re: Pseudo-science. 185 Warwick 14-Apr-11 18:59
Re: Pseudo-science. 235 AmadeusD 14-Apr-11 19:04
Re: Pseudo-science. 191 AmadeusD 14-Apr-11 10:32
Re: Pseudo-science. 185 cladking 14-Apr-11 15:17
Re: Pseudo-science. 190 Ronald1 14-Apr-11 16:31
Re: Pseudo-science. 242 cladking 14-Apr-11 22:35
Re: PT 'specialist' ..... 204 Ronald1 14-Apr-11 22:57
Re: PT 'specialist' ..... 240 cladking 14-Apr-11 23:09
Re: Pseudo-science. 222 Warwick 14-Apr-11 17:35
Re: Pseudo-science. 207 AmadeusD 16-Apr-11 12:55
Re: Certainties and theories 248 Rob Miller 10-Apr-11 21:27
Re: Certainties and theories 253 Laird Scranton 13-Apr-11 22:36
Re: Certainties and theories 273 Titus Livius 14-Apr-11 08:23
Re: Certainties and theories 235 Laird Scranton 14-Apr-11 17:54
Re: Certainties and theories 287 Titus Livius 14-Apr-11 18:30
Re: Certainties and theories 246 will2learn2000 14-Apr-11 18:47
Re: Certainties and theories 239 Titus Livius 14-Apr-11 18:53
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Re: Certainties and theories 248 Ronald1 14-Apr-11 22:24
Re: Certainties and theories 302 Titus Livius 15-Apr-11 07:25
Re: Certainties and theories 218 will2learn2000 15-Apr-11 18:07
Re: Certainties and theories 254 Titus Livius 15-Apr-11 21:43
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Re: Certainties and theories 262 moshiya 14-Apr-11 18:02
evidence 224 Warwick 14-Apr-11 18:14
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3rd option:Unknown! lol n/t 263 lobo-hotei 16-Apr-11 23:53
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