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cladking wrote:

> It seems the very last thing an orthodox believer would want to
> suggest is that anyone deal with what the builders actually
> said. Orthodox assumptions and beliefs are entirely at odds
> with what the people said.

Problem is; you think you know what the "builders" say and consider that a fact. Most of us on the other hand think you have a very vivid imagination when it comes to the PT...

> I don't believe it's even possible to understand the builders
> if we don't even know how they did something as simple as
> stacking 6 1/2 million tons of stone. Unless this was rocket
> science the solution should be very very simple and very very
> obvious. Yet we don't have even a ghost of a clue and proceed
> on "musttav's" and guesses.

Ramps are quite simple you know ;-)

> It is not legitimate to say implications don't matter if you
> don't know how it was done. You are simply restating the guess
> that it mustta been ramps despite the fact that ramps have been
> disproven.

Ramps haven't been disproven. Just because you don't like ramps and you don't believe the AE could push blocks on them doesn't disprove them.
You just disagree, but you haven't disproven anything.

> You are simply restating an assumption that it was
> laborious work without knowing anything and despite what the
> builders said. Besideas saying the pyramid was the ka of the
> king they also said quite clearly that the Gods built the
> pyramids.
> Until orthodox believers have any sort of real evidence the
> builders' words are plenty good enough for me.

see above, first comment

> The Gods did build the pyramids and out duty is to determine
> who these gods were and how they accomplished so monumental a
> feat. Stop guessing and start with some real science. Science
> is observation so this might be the exact place to look.

I suspect you mean the whole gods are geysers and machines (or parts of them) thing; again see above.

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Re: Purpose of the air shafts 187 cladking 04-Mar-11 02:52
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Re: Purpose of the air shafts 159 shiningfromwithin 04-Mar-11 05:31
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Re: Purpose of the air shafts 171 northstar2595 04-Mar-11 13:16
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Re: Purpose of the air shafts 128 northstar2595 05-Mar-11 14:12
Re: Purpose of the air shafts 183 MJT 06-Mar-11 12:56
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Re: Protecting the status quo! 167 cladking 06-Mar-11 20:27
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Re: Protecting the status quo! 68 cladking 07-Mar-11 03:07
Nonsense 140 Warwick 14-Mar-11 19:45
Re: Nonsense 96 cladking 14-Mar-11 20:20
Re: Nonsense 163 Warwick 14-Mar-11 21:36
Re: Nonsense 124 cladking 14-Mar-11 22:36
Re: Nonsense 162 Warwick 15-Mar-11 00:00
Re: Nonsense 140 cladking 15-Mar-11 01:22
Re: Nonsense 131 MJT 15-Mar-11 00:53
Re: Nonsense 142 cladking 15-Mar-11 01:35
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Re: ???? 158 cladking 16-Mar-11 20:39
Re: ???? 120 charly 17-Mar-11 18:20
Re: ???? 165 cladking 17-Mar-11 18:39
Re: ???? 97 charly 22-Mar-11 14:26
Re: Nonsense 190 Warwick 16-Mar-11 17:08
Re: Nonsense 195 cladking 16-Mar-11 20:51
Re: Nonsense 97 charly 17-Mar-11 18:59
Re: Nonsense 155 cladking 17-Mar-11 20:55
Re: Nonsense & Magic 113 MJT 18-Mar-11 00:00
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the Gist 145 Warwick 13-Apr-11 18:21
Re: the Gist 194 cladking 13-Apr-11 21:04
IOW's... 159 Warwick 14-Apr-11 02:47
Re: The REAL reason for the air shafts 144 gadavid 15-Mar-11 04:05
Re: The REAL reason for the air shafts 214 Warwick 16-Mar-11 17:16
Re: The REAL reason for the air shafts 174 gadavid 17-Mar-11 17:02
Re: Purpose of the air shafts 115 northstar2595 06-Mar-11 15:28
Re: Purpose of the air shafts 123 northstar2595 13-Apr-11 21:29
Re: Purpose of the air shafts 90 Warwick 14-Apr-11 03:00
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