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will2learn2000 wrote:

> Hi Charly
>
> I must admit to being a fan of Cks approach and persistence in
> the light of all the orthodoxy floating about. A few points are
> worth noting regarding your post.
>
> ''> The builders of the great pyramids distinctly and
> repeatedly
> > said the great pyramids were not tombs.
>
> ''I know you believe that, no need to repeat that in every
> post.''
>
> I would say that it is fair to repeat that every time someone
> posts that the pyramids were tombs. Particularly in respect to
> the lack of evidence that they were, apart from the modern
> constructed evidence.

There is no lack of evidence, the evidence is ignored, dismissed or ridiculed by many "alternatives". There 's nothing modern about sarcophagi constructed in the OK.

>They may well have had a funerary
> function or have been a lasting legacy of some benign soul but
> a wasteful tomb is more absurd than anything functional. Ck is
> not even tackling that specifically but notes it as a side
> issue to the building process and textual refs in the PTs.

"wasteful tomb"? And what do you mean by functional?

> As for water being involved, the salt deposits on the interior
> walls of the chambers that was conveniently cleaned off
> suggests at the very least vapor and most likely water.

Salt deposits are the result of human visitors breathing and sweating, nothing mysterious about that. They have to be removed because the dammage the limestone.

The
> geology suggests water as well. No one has answered to my
> satisfaction why there would be water in a structure designed
> to preserve a body,it would have the opposite effect.

There was no water in the GP or any other OK pyramid.

> A geyser is not complicated, they are created in nature by
> accident.
>

First you have to prove they existed at said sites and even if proven it's another matter yet to prove they found a way to power a complicated machine with said geysers.

> Boats carrying counterweights or even the stones up the side of
> the pyramids in stepped locks is quicker and more energy
> efficient than pushing them up ramps that would require another
> pyramid building team to make them. Side winding ramps would
> leave plenty of evidence that no one seems to have found. Water
> would leave virtually no evidence.

Ramps were temporary structures and were removed after use. Why would they leave "plenty" of evidence?

> As far as I can tell Egyptologists have been careful to
> construct a funeral theme that has done little but bury the
> nature of these devices in holes deeper than they suggest the
> pharoahs were put. Careful attention to naming conventions
> would save us all a lot of trouble in searching for useful
> knowledge, but every name has more than one spelling. I know it
> is minor, but hardly the work of pedantic researchers.

?????

> I would suggest that the hidden meanings you attribute to Ck
> should be aimed at the Egyptologists. They seem to spend more
> time suggesting symbolic meanings than real uses> Most modern
> icons evolve from tangible useful items, why not in the past?

Most AE symbols were in origin probably tangible and usefull, no one is denying that.

> The ancients, according to orthodoxy, spent so much time
> dealing with symbolics that I can not imagine where they found
> the manpower to become the bread basket of the world. Just
> outta curiosity were they a symbolic bread basket?, cos I can't
> find the piles of ash or thousands of ovens that would be the
> necessary infrastructure for such a role. 2 tiny cookers for
> the giza site, it is a joke.

See above: use of ridicule

> I do not think Ck is right on every count, but he is imho a dam
> sight closer to the reality of the ancient world than any
> orthodox prof I have met or read.

If you have realy met egyptologists and read their work and you still think CK is closer to the reality of "the ancient world" then you have more will to immagine than will to learn I'm affraid...

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Othodox egyptology is necessarily wrong. 441 cladking 16-Feb-11 03:38
Re: Othodox egyptology is necessarily wrong. 190 Pete Vanderzwet 16-Feb-11 06:05
BTW... 196 Pete Vanderzwet 16-Feb-11 06:16
Re: BTW... 251 cladking 16-Feb-11 06:19
Re: Othodox egyptology is necessarily wrong. 219 cladking 16-Feb-11 06:18
Re: Othodox egyptology is necessarily wrong. 233 Pete Vanderzwet 16-Feb-11 06:31
To save time.. 188 Pete Vanderzwet 16-Feb-11 06:35
Re: Othodox egyptology is necessarily wrong. 199 cladking 16-Feb-11 06:46
Re: Othodox egyptology is necessarily wrong. 219 Titus Livius 16-Feb-11 16:06
Re: Othodox egyptology is necessarily wrong. 184 cladking 16-Feb-11 16:46
Re: Othodox egyptology is necessarily wrong. 182 Pete Vanderzwet 17-Feb-11 03:32
Re: Othodox egyptology is necessarily wrong. 227 cladking 17-Feb-11 05:14
Re: Othodox egyptology is necessarily wrong. 176 Pete Vanderzwet 17-Feb-11 05:22
Re: Othodox egyptology is necessarily wrong. 187 cladking 17-Feb-11 05:39
Re: Othodox egyptology is necessarily wrong. 206 Ronald1 17-Feb-11 08:21
Re: Othodox egyptology is necessarily wrong. 154 Avatar 19-Feb-11 01:59
Re: Othodox egyptology is necessarily wrong. 157 Elizabeth Newton 20-Feb-11 02:16
Re: Othodox egyptology is necessarily wrong. 172 cladking 20-Feb-11 03:19
The Abu Simbel Experience 181 will2learn2000 16-Feb-11 16:19
Re: The Abu Simbel Experience 238 cladking 17-Feb-11 05:28
Re: Othodox egyptology is necessarily wrong. 193 Ronald1 16-Feb-11 23:46
Re: Othodox egyptology is necessarily wrong. 207 cladking 17-Feb-11 05:17
Re: Othodox egyptology is necessarily wrong. 203 Ronald1 17-Feb-11 07:43
Re: Othodox egyptology is necessarily wrong. 263 cladking 17-Feb-11 22:42
Re: Othodox egyptology is necessarily wrong. 148 Ronald1 18-Feb-11 06:56
Re: Othodox egyptology is necessarily wrong. 196 cladking 18-Feb-11 17:29
Re: Othodox egyptology is necessarily wrong. 208 Ronald1 18-Feb-11 18:03
Re: Othodox egyptology is necessarily wrong. 204 charly 19-Feb-11 10:54
Re: Othodox egyptology is necessarily wrong. 183 cladking 19-Feb-11 16:39
Re: Othodox egyptology is necessarily wrong. 207 MJT 19-Feb-11 22:37
Re: Othodox egyptology is necessarily wrong. 227 cladking 20-Feb-11 00:47
Re: Othodox egyptology is necessarily wrong. 196 Ronald1 19-Feb-11 23:50
Re: Othodox egyptology is necessarily wrong. 224 cladking 20-Feb-11 00:49
Re: Othodox egyptology is necessarily wrong. 143 Ronald1 20-Feb-11 08:13
Re: Othodox egyptology is necessarily wrong. 191 OCaptain 17-Feb-11 14:25
Re: Othodox egyptology is necessarily wrong. 227 cladking 17-Feb-11 22:47
Re: Othodox egyptology is necessarily wrong. 179 Ronald1 19-Feb-11 12:42
Re: Othodox egyptology is necessarily wrong. 219 MJT 19-Feb-11 13:38
Re: Othodox egyptology is necessarily wrong. 186 cladking 19-Feb-11 16:26
Re: Othodox egyptology is necessarily wrong. 176 MJT 19-Feb-11 21:43
Re: Othodox egyptology is necessarily wrong. 253 cladking 19-Feb-11 23:22
Re: Othodox egyptology is necessarily wrong. 204 MJT 22-Feb-11 09:35
Re: Othodox egyptology is necessarily wrong. 208 cladking 22-Feb-11 16:15
Re: Othodox egyptology is necessarily wrong. 218 cladking 22-Feb-11 16:26
Re: Othodox egyptology is necessarily wrong. 218 MJT 22-Feb-11 20:49
Re: Othodox egyptology is necessarily wrong. 220 cladking 22-Feb-11 22:40
Re: on cenotaphs 212 charly 21-Feb-11 12:49
Re: on cenotaphs 213 cladking 21-Feb-11 16:23
Re: on sceptres 198 will2learn2000 21-Feb-11 17:49
Re: on sceptres 205 cladking 21-Feb-11 23:39
Re: on sceptres 202 will2learn2000 22-Feb-11 08:46
Re: on sceptres 166 cladking 22-Feb-11 16:54
Re: on sceptres 255 will2learn2000 22-Feb-11 17:19
Re: on sceptres 170 cladking 22-Feb-11 18:15
Re: on sceptres 156 will2learn2000 22-Feb-11 19:02
Re: on sceptres 163 cladking 22-Feb-11 19:12
Re: on sceptres 202 will2learn2000 23-Feb-11 17:47
Re: on sceptres 186 cladking 23-Feb-11 21:55
Re: on sceptres & shafts 227 will2learn2000 24-Feb-11 06:23
Re: on sceptres & shafts 174 cladking 24-Feb-11 15:44
Re: on sceptres & shafts 191 will2learn2000 24-Feb-11 18:36
Re: on sceptres & shafts 218 cladking 24-Feb-11 18:57
Re: on sceptres & shafts 223 will2learn2000 24-Feb-11 19:32
Re: on sceptres & shafts 180 cladking 24-Feb-11 19:49
Re: on sceptres & shafts 158 will2learn2000 24-Feb-11 20:09
Re: on sceptres & shafts 208 cladking 24-Feb-11 19:16
Re: on sceptres & shafts 213 will2learn2000 24-Feb-11 19:48
Re: on sceptres & shafts 236 cladking 24-Feb-11 20:12
Re: on sceptres & shafts 159 will2learn2000 24-Feb-11 20:39
Re: on sceptres & shafts 209 cladking 24-Feb-11 21:11
Re: Othodox egyptology is necessarily wrong. 232 charly 21-Feb-11 17:54
Re: Othodox egyptology is necessarily wrong. 198 will2learn2000 21-Feb-11 18:56
Re: Othodox egyptology is necessarily wrong. 231 charly 21-Feb-11 20:39
Re: Othodox egyptology is necessarily wrong. 218 cladking 22-Feb-11 01:19
Re: Othodox egyptology is necessarily wrong. 221 charly 22-Feb-11 09:38
Re: Othodox egyptology is necessarily wrong. 171 Ronald1 22-Feb-11 11:28
Re: Othodox egyptology is necessarily wrong. 188 cladking 22-Feb-11 17:32
Re: Othodox egyptology is necessarily wrong. 173 Ronald1 22-Feb-11 18:39
Re: Othodox egyptology is necessarily wrong. 234 cladking 22-Feb-11 19:04
Re: Othodox egyptology is necessarily wrong. 208 Ronald1 22-Feb-11 23:16
Re: Othodox egyptology is necessarily wrong. 199 cladking 22-Feb-11 23:40
Re: Othodox egyptology is necessarily wrong. 227 cladking 22-Feb-11 17:13
Re: Othodox egyptology is necessarily wrong. 215 charly 22-Feb-11 19:41
Re: Othodox egyptology is necessarily wrong. 174 cladking 22-Feb-11 22:52
Re: Other ancient Structures 184 will2learn2000 22-Feb-11 18:05
Use of common sense obligatory 199 will2learn2000 22-Feb-11 07:52
Re: Use of common sense obligatory 213 charly 22-Feb-11 09:12
Re: Use of common sense obligatory 184 will2learn2000 22-Feb-11 13:08
Re: Use of common sense obligatory 207 charly 22-Feb-11 13:51
Re: Use of common sense obligatory 163 cladking 22-Feb-11 17:25
Re: Use of common sense obligatory 174 charly 22-Feb-11 19:55
Re: Use of common sense rare 182 cladking 22-Feb-11 23:06
Re: Othodox egyptology is necessarily wrong. 198 cladking 22-Feb-11 01:05
Re: Othodox egyptology is necessarily wrong. 187 cladking 22-Feb-11 00:16
Re: Othodox egyptology is necessarily wrong. 201 charly 22-Feb-11 10:19
Re: Othodox egyptology is necessarily wrong. 183 cladking 22-Feb-11 17:37
Re: Othodox egyptology is necessarily wrong. 187 cladking 22-Feb-11 17:52
Re: Othodox egyptology is necessarily wrong. 190 charly 22-Feb-11 20:00
Re: Othodox egyptology is necessarily wrong. 198 cladking 22-Feb-11 23:38
Re: Othodox egyptology is necessarily wrong. 210 will2learn2000 23-Feb-11 09:08
Re: Othodox egyptology is necessarily wrong. 216 cladking 23-Feb-11 16:11
Re: Othodox egyptology is necessarily wrong. 161 charly 23-Feb-11 10:17
Re: Othodox egyptology is necessarily wrong. 221 cladking 23-Feb-11 16:06
Re: Othodox egyptology is necessarily wrong. 194 charly 23-Feb-11 17:24
Re: Othodox egyptology is necessarily wrong. 198 will2learn2000 23-Feb-11 17:51
Re: Othodox egyptology is necessarily wrong. 173 cladking 23-Feb-11 21:58
Re: Othodox egyptology is necessarily wrong. 200 charly 24-Feb-11 08:53
Re: Othodox egyptology is necessarily wrong. 192 cladking 24-Feb-11 15:52
Re: on cenotaphs 187 MJT 21-Feb-11 22:09
Re: on cenotaphs 201 cladking 22-Feb-11 01:21
Re: Othodox egyptology is necessarily wrong. 222 cladking 18-Feb-11 18:05
Re: Shemsu Hor 199 Thunderbird 18-Feb-11 19:41
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