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cladking wrote:

> charly wrote:
>
> > And since the GP is the biggest of them all, it drew the most
> > attention... result: it got completely picked clean, hence
> not
> > even a trace of grave goods and human remains.
>
> Yes. Exactly. But since there's neither a trace of such
> artefacts nor a willingness to seek a trace this lack of
> evidence can not be used to prove their existence.

Of course there's no trace of such artefacts except in some cases the sarcophagus. No willingness to find a trace???
Just because a tomb has been emptied it can't be proven it was a tomb: this is what you are claiming since you dismiss architecture as evidence.

> There are
> no aliens in the pyramids either but no one is suggesting that
> proves aliens built them.

Use of ridicule tactic again...

> Be reasonable.

I am, you're not.

> Hawass calls the shots. Why doesn't he get in there and do a
> forensic examination? You never know what you'll find till you
> look.

Forensic examination is used at crime scenes, not archaeological sites, no matter how many times I point this out, you still go on about it as if it has never been mentioned. One could call that being unreasonable...

> > Why wouldn't they believe that the pyramids contained riches,
> > they were after all the tombs of kings.
>
> Says you.
> We don't know what they believed these were during all eras.
> It really doesn't matter what anyone at anytime believed they
> were other than the builders. The builders said they were the
> ka of the king. It seems to me that if you want to call them
> tombs then you either marginalize the builders or show that
> ka=tomb.

The builders knew they were tombs, they put in the sarcophagus and blocking systems after all... just like in the mastabas.

> The builders have been marginalized. They just aren't expected
> to know what the hell they were.

Not at all, intensive studies have been made and are still being made. Because you just don't like the results of these studies, doesn't give you the right to say they have been marginalized.

> Anyone could have made those tunnels including 19th century BC
> archaeologists. We know who made the first one in G1 and guess
> what. He didn't find a tomb either. This is pretty
> inconvenient for tomb believers but it's still the fact.

We do not know who made the first tunnel, it's just a story and there are many versions of that story including one where they did find a burial.

> We can suppose all kinds of things about why this is but we're
> still stuck with the same facts and those facts are there's no
> proof or direct evidence any of the great pyramids were tombs.

You say that because you claim that "architecture proves nothing", excellent example of dismissal tactic.

> We're still stuck with the fact that the builders said they
> were NOT tombs.

Not a fact, just your faulty interpretation of the PT.

> You can reconcile this anyway you choose but it's unreasonable
> for anyone to consider the matter sealed.

It's unreasonable to keep claiming 3rd and 4th dynasty pyramids weren't tombs (except the so called provincial step pyramids of course).

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Great Pyramid has two secret chambers 341 JonnyMcA 27-Jan-11 21:42
Re: Great Pyramid has two secret chambers 210 Ronald1 27-Jan-11 22:47
Re: Great Pyramid has two secret chambers 265 Lothur 30-Jan-11 04:01
Re: Great Pyramid has two secret chambers 218 Pete Vanderzwet 30-Jan-11 21:18
Re: Great Pyramid has two secret chambers 193 Lothur 31-Jan-11 01:09
Re: Great Pyramid has two secret chambers 212 Pete Vanderzwet 03-Feb-11 22:31
Re: there are no 'secret chambers' in the Great Pyramid. 246 Ronald1 03-Feb-11 22:49
Re: there are no 'secret chambers' in the Great Pyramid. 221 Scott Creighton 03-Feb-11 23:08
Re: there are no 'secret chambers' in the Great Pyramid. 223 Ronald1 04-Feb-11 00:04
Re: there are no 'secret chambers' in the Great Pyramid. 225 Scott Creighton 04-Feb-11 00:25
Re: Those righteous and kind robbers ..... 224 Ronald1 04-Feb-11 09:55
Re: Those righteous and kind robbers ..... 208 Scott Creighton 04-Feb-11 10:17
Re: Those righteous and kind robbers ..... 246 Ronald1 04-Feb-11 11:11
Re: Those righteous and kind robbers ..... 257 Scott Creighton 04-Feb-11 11:46
Re: Those righteous and kind robbers ..... 217 Ronald1 04-Feb-11 13:17
Re: Those righteous and kind robbers ..... 249 Scott Creighton 04-Feb-11 13:41
Re: Those righteous and kind robbers ..... 217 Ronald1 04-Feb-11 14:03
Re: Those righteous and kind robbers ..... 197 Scott Creighton 04-Feb-11 14:20
Re: Those righteous and kind robbers ..... 151 Ronald1 04-Feb-11 14:33
Re: Those righteous and kind robbers ..... 264 Scott Creighton 04-Feb-11 14:41
Re: Those righteous and kind robbers ..... 224 Ronald1 04-Feb-11 14:12
Re: Those righteous and kind robbers ..... 227 Scott Creighton 04-Feb-11 14:24
Re: Those righteous and kind robbers ..... 188 Ronald1 04-Feb-11 14:41
Re: Those righteous and kind robbers ..... 247 Scott Creighton 04-Feb-11 14:43
Re: Those righteous and kind robbers ..... 223 Ronald1 04-Feb-11 14:27
Re: Those righteous and kind robbers ..... 244 Scott Creighton 04-Feb-11 14:36
Re: Those righteous and kind robbers ..... 237 Ronald1 04-Feb-11 14:46
Re: Those righteous and kind robbers ..... 224 Scott Creighton 04-Feb-11 14:48
Re: Those righteous and kind robbers ..... 262 Ronald1 04-Feb-11 16:33
Re: Those righteous and kind robbers ..... 210 Scott Creighton 04-Feb-11 16:50
Re: Those righteous and kind robbers ..... 217 Susan Doris 04-Feb-11 19:12
Re: Those righteous and kind robbers ..... 233 Ronald1 04-Feb-11 23:15
Mod note 242 JonnyMcA 04-Feb-11 19:22
Re: Those righteous and kind robbers ..... 228 cladking 04-Feb-11 20:47
Re: Those righteous and kind robbers ..... 150 Ronald1 04-Feb-11 23:06
Re: Those righteous and kind robbers ..... 215 cladking 04-Feb-11 23:32
Re: Ancient Egyptian symbolism. 193 Ronald1 05-Feb-11 00:26
Re: Ancient Egyptian symbolism. 197 cladking 05-Feb-11 02:53
Re: Those righteous and kind robbers ..... 219 Scott Creighton 05-Feb-11 11:20
Re: Those righteous and kind robbers ..... 260 Ronald1 05-Feb-11 12:12
Re: Those righteous and kind robbers ..... 207 Scott Creighton 05-Feb-11 12:24
Re: Those righteous and kind robbers ..... 247 will2learn2000 05-Feb-11 08:11
Re: Those righteous and kind robbers ..... 251 Scott Creighton 05-Feb-11 11:36
Re: Those righteous and kind robbers ..... 192 Morten 05-Feb-11 13:57
Re: Those righteous and kind robbers ..... 201 Ronald1 05-Feb-11 12:16
Re: Those righteous and kind robbers ..... 241 Scott Creighton 05-Feb-11 12:34
Re: Those righteous and kind robbers ..... 221 will2learn2000 05-Feb-11 15:20
Re: Those righteous and kind robbers ..... 264 Scott Creighton 05-Feb-11 16:02
Re: Those righteous and kind robbers ..... 240 coreygilbert 05-Feb-11 18:54
Re: Those righteous and kind robbers ..... 191 Gary Osborn 05-Feb-11 19:26
Re: Those righteous and kind robbers ..... 244 coreygilbert 05-Feb-11 20:16
Re: Those righteous and kind robbers ..... 200 Scott Creighton 06-Feb-11 01:06
Re: Those righteous and kind robbers ..... 247 Gary Osborn 06-Feb-11 02:14
Re: Those righteous and kind robbers ..... 272 will2learn2000 05-Feb-11 21:05
Re: Those righteous and kind robbers ..... 197 cladking 05-Feb-11 22:51
Re: Those righteous and kind robbers ..... 227 Ronald1 06-Feb-11 00:21
Re: Those righteous and kind robbers ..... 236 Scott Creighton 06-Feb-11 00:31
Re: Those righteous and kind robbers ..... 245 Ronald1 06-Feb-11 01:01
Re: Those righteous and kind robbers ..... 259 Scott Creighton 06-Feb-11 01:42
Re: the granite plugs. 202 Ronald1 06-Feb-11 08:14
Re: the granite plugs. 190 Scott Creighton 06-Feb-11 10:18
Re: 'The Choosen Ones' ..... 218 Ronald1 06-Feb-11 10:06
Re: 'The Choosen Ones' ..... 245 Scott Creighton 06-Feb-11 10:23
Re: Good luck. 143 Ronald1 06-Feb-11 10:58
Re: Good luck. 219 Scott Creighton 06-Feb-11 11:45
Re: The biggest flaw (out of many) in Scott Creighton's 'seed vault' theory. 218 Ronald1 05-Feb-11 13:00
Except..... 215 Scott Creighton 05-Feb-11 13:28
Re: Except..... 239 Ronald1 06-Feb-11 00:14
Re: Except..... 234 Scott Creighton 06-Feb-11 00:37
Re: Except..... 217 Ronald1 06-Feb-11 01:05
Re: Except..... 233 Scott Creighton 06-Feb-11 01:33
Re: Except..... 218 Glanymor1948 06-Feb-11 11:02
Re: Except..... 270 Scott Creighton 06-Feb-11 11:43
Re: Except..... 217 Glanymor1948 06-Feb-11 13:15
Re: Except..... 182 Gary Osborn 06-Feb-11 13:58
Re: Except..... 218 Glanymor1948 06-Feb-11 15:12
Re: Except..... 184 Gary Osborn 07-Feb-11 17:27
Re: Except..... 227 Gary Osborn 06-Feb-11 02:38
Re: Except..... 227 Gary Osborn 06-Feb-11 02:46
Re: Except..... 221 Chaeremon out of Alexandria 06-Feb-11 09:02
Re: Those righteous and kind robbers ..... 218 cladking 04-Feb-11 20:58
Re: Those righteous and kind robbers ..... 251 Ronald1 04-Feb-11 23:13
Re: Those righteous and kind robbers ..... 234 cladking 04-Feb-11 23:45
Re: there are no 'secret chambers' in the Great Pyramid. 230 cladking 04-Feb-11 00:01
Re: great difference between G1 and G2 ... 213 Ronald1 04-Feb-11 00:13
Re: great difference between G1 and G2 ... 88 cladking 04-Feb-11 17:12
Re: Great Pyramid has two secret chambers 207 MJT 31-Jan-11 13:47
Re: Great Pyramid has two secret chambers 249 Sirfiroth 31-Jan-11 15:47
Re: Great Pyramid has two secret chambers 261 MJT 01-Feb-11 13:30
Re: Great Pyramid has two secret chambers 237 will2learn2000 01-Feb-11 14:25
Re: Great Pyramid has two secret chambers 235 MJT 01-Feb-11 14:54
Re: Great Pyramid has two secret empty chambers maybe 240 will2learn2000 01-Feb-11 18:42
Re: Great Pyramid has two secret empty chambers maybe 185 Susan Doris 02-Feb-11 10:35
Re: Great Pyramid has two secret empty chambers maybe 205 MJT 02-Feb-11 11:28
Re: Great Pyramid has two secret empty chambers maybe 231 will2learn2000 02-Feb-11 16:52
Re: Great Pyramid has two secret empty chambers maybe 257 MJT 02-Feb-11 18:15
Re: Great Pyramid has two secret empty chambers maybe 269 will2learn2000 02-Feb-11 18:49
Re: Great Pyramid has two secret empty chambers maybe 235 MJT 02-Feb-11 20:57
Re: Great Pyramid has two secret empty chambers maybe 276 cladking 02-Feb-11 22:09
Re: Great Pyramid has two secret empty chambers maybe 255 Ronald1 02-Feb-11 22:34
Re: Great Pyramid has two secret empty chambers maybe 222 cladking 02-Feb-11 22:50
Re: Great Pyramid has two secret empty chambers maybe 236 Ronald1 02-Feb-11 23:04
Re: Great Pyramid has two secret empty chambers maybe 166 NetWorkAngel 02-Feb-11 23:16
Re: Great Pyramid has two secret empty chambers maybe 209 cladking 03-Feb-11 00:10
Re: Great Pyramid has two secret empty chambers maybe 216 NetWorkAngel 03-Feb-11 00:15
Re: Great Pyramid has two secret empty chambers maybe 220 Ronald1 03-Feb-11 09:27
Re: Great Pyramid has two secret empty chambers maybe 230 cladking 03-Feb-11 16:29
Re: Great Pyramid has two secret empty chambers maybe 198 Ronald1 03-Feb-11 17:51
Re: Great Pyramid has two secret empty chambers maybe 206 Sirfiroth 03-Feb-11 18:21
Re: Menkaure's and Djedkare Isesi's pyramids. 203 Ronald1 03-Feb-11 23:49
Re: Menkaure's and Djedkare Isesi's pyramids. 252 cladking 03-Feb-11 23:52
Re: Menkaure's and Djedkare Isesi's pyramids. 245 Ronald1 04-Feb-11 00:16
Re: Menkaure's and Djedkare Isesi's pyramids. 190 cladking 04-Feb-11 00:52
Re: Menkaure's and Djedkare Isesi's pyramids. 262 Sirfiroth 04-Feb-11 02:31
Re: Great Pyramid has two secret empty chambers maybe 258 cladking 03-Feb-11 22:45
Re: Great Pyramid has two secret empty chambers maybe 162 MJT 03-Feb-11 11:33
Re: Great Pyramid has two secret empty chambers maybe 293 cladking 03-Feb-11 00:03
Re: Great Pyramid has two secret empty chambers maybe 194 charly 03-Feb-11 09:10
Re: Great Pyramid has two secret empty chambers maybe 219 cladking 03-Feb-11 16:48
Re: Great Pyramid has two secret empty chambers maybe 227 charly 04-Feb-11 08:23
Re: Great Pyramid has two secret empty chambers maybe 306 cladking 04-Feb-11 17:27
Re: Great Pyramid has two secret empty chambers maybe 229 charly 05-Feb-11 21:41
Re: Great Pyramid has two secret empty chambers maybe 243 cladking 05-Feb-11 23:02
Re: Great Pyramid has two secret empty chambers maybe 237 charly 06-Feb-11 11:54
Re: Great Pyramid has two secret empty chambers maybe 230 cladking 06-Feb-11 16:42
Re: Great Pyramid has two secret empty chambers maybe 214 will2learn2000 06-Feb-11 18:51
Re: Great Pyramid has two secret empty chambers maybe 208 cladking 06-Feb-11 19:25
Re: Great Pyramid has two secret empty chambers maybe 241 will2learn2000 06-Feb-11 20:36
Re: Great Pyramid has two secret empty chambers maybe 249 cladking 06-Feb-11 21:06
Re: Great Pyramid has two secret empty chambers maybe 263 will2learn2000 06-Feb-11 21:26
Re: Great Pyramid has two secret empty chambers maybe 211 cladking 06-Feb-11 22:33
Re: Great Pyramid has two secret empty chambers maybe 269 will2learn2000 08-Feb-11 09:17
Re: Great Pyramid has two secret empty chambers maybe 227 cladking 08-Feb-11 23:56
Re: Great Pyramid has two secret empty chambers maybe 243 will2learn2000 09-Feb-11 06:15
Re: Great Pyramid has two secret empty chambers maybe 238 cladking 09-Feb-11 06:53
Re: Great Pyramid has two secret empty chambers maybe 215 will2learn2000 09-Feb-11 07:42
Re: Great Pyramid has two secret empty chambers maybe 223 Scott Creighton 06-Feb-11 21:17
Re: Great Pyramid has two secret empty chambers maybe 299 cladking 06-Feb-11 19:58
Re: Great Pyramid has two secret empty chambers maybe 217 charly 06-Feb-11 19:56
Re: Great Pyramid has two secret empty chambers maybe 171 cladking 06-Feb-11 20:20
Re: Great Pyramid has two secret empty chambers maybe 212 charly 06-Feb-11 20:45
Re: Great Pyramid has two secret empty chambers maybe 288 cladking 06-Feb-11 22:12
Re: Great Pyramid has two secret empty chambers maybe 244 cladking 06-Feb-11 20:47
Re: Great Pyramid has two secret empty chambers maybe 221 charly 06-Feb-11 21:05
Re: Great Pyramid has two secret empty chambers maybe 214 cladking 06-Feb-11 22:55
Re: Great Pyramid has two secret empty chambers maybe 225 MJT 07-Feb-11 00:11
Re: Great Pyramid has two secret empty chambers maybe 276 cladking 07-Feb-11 01:38
Re: Great Pyramid has two secret empty chambers maybe 203 Scott Creighton 03-Feb-11 10:27
Re: Great Pyramid has two secret empty chambers maybe 224 charly 03-Feb-11 11:09
Re: Great Pyramid has two secret empty chambers maybe 231 Scott Creighton 03-Feb-11 11:31
Re: Great Pyramid has two secret empty chambers maybe 251 cladking 03-Feb-11 16:33
Re: Great Pyramid has two secret empty chambers maybe 254 Scott Creighton 03-Feb-11 16:51
Re: Great Pyramid has two secret empty chambers maybe 227 Ronald1 03-Feb-11 17:54
Re: Great Pyramid has two secret empty chambers maybe 227 Scott Creighton 03-Feb-11 18:01
Re: The end of the 'seed/recovery/stora ge vault' theory. 223 Ronald1 03-Feb-11 18:41
Re: The end of the 'seed/recovery/stora ge vault' theory. 207 Scott Creighton 03-Feb-11 18:49
Re: The end of the 'seed/recovery/stora ge vault' theory. 163 Ronald1 03-Feb-11 22:28
Re: The end of the 'seed/recovery/stora ge vault' theory. 236 Scott Creighton 03-Feb-11 22:53
Re: The end of the 'seed/recovery/stora ge vault' theory. 253 cladking 03-Feb-11 23:04
Re: The end of the 'seed/recovery/stora ge vault' theory. 207 Scott Creighton 03-Feb-11 23:11
Re: Great Pyramid has two secret empty chambers maybe 249 cladking 03-Feb-11 22:48
Wheat & Barley, no Dates? 203 will2learn2000 04-Feb-11 07:22
Re: Wheat & Barley, no Dates? 211 Scott Creighton 04-Feb-11 17:15
Re: Wheat & Barley, no Dates? 250 will2learn2000 04-Feb-11 19:11
Re: Wheat & Barley, no Dates? 295 Scott Creighton 05-Feb-11 00:11
Re: Wheat & Barley, no Dates? 189 Ronald1 05-Feb-11 00:33
Re: Wheat & Barley, no Dates? 228 Scott Creighton 05-Feb-11 01:20
Re: Great Pyramid has two secret empty chambers maybe 198 MJT 03-Feb-11 17:12
Re: Great Pyramid has two secret empty chambers maybe 253 cladking 03-Feb-11 17:27
Re: Great Pyramid has two secret empty chambers maybe 221 will2learn2000 03-Feb-11 18:15
Re: Great Pyramid has two secret empty chambers maybe 206 cladking 03-Feb-11 22:31
Re: Great Pyramid has two secret empty chambers maybe 214 charly 03-Feb-11 09:51
Re: Great Pyramid has two secret empty chambers maybe 234 cladking 03-Feb-11 17:02
Re: Great Pyramid has two secret empty chambers maybe 219 Sirfiroth 03-Feb-11 18:03
Re: Great Pyramid has two secret empty chambers maybe 193 cladking 03-Feb-11 22:56
Re: Great Pyramid has two secret empty chambers maybe 255 charly 04-Feb-11 08:45
Re: Great Pyramid has two secret empty chambers maybe 225 cladking 04-Feb-11 16:56
Re: tomb robbers. 197 Ronald1 05-Feb-11 00:43
Re: tomb robbers. 223 cladking 05-Feb-11 02:46
Re: tomb robbers. 173 charly 05-Feb-11 21:15
Re: tomb robbers. 215 cladking 05-Feb-11 23:15
Re: tomb robbers. 269 charly 06-Feb-11 11:38
Re: tomb robbers. 200 cladking 06-Feb-11 17:11
Re: tomb robbers. 260 charly 06-Feb-11 20:03
Re: tomb robbers. 222 cladking 06-Feb-11 23:18
Re: tomb robbers. 210 Chaeremon out of Alexandria 07-Feb-11 07:43
Re: Great Pyramid has two secret empty chambers maybe 286 charly 03-Feb-11 09:25
Re: Great Pyramid has two secret empty chambers maybe 240 cladking 03-Feb-11 17:21
Re: Great Pyramid has two secret empty chambers maybe 218 MJT 03-Feb-11 14:23
Re: Great Pyramid has two secret empty chambers maybe 251 cladking 03-Feb-11 23:34
Re: Great Pyramid has two secret empty chambers maybe 212 will2learn2000 04-Feb-11 07:12
Re: Great Pyramid has two secret empty chambers maybe 230 cladking 04-Feb-11 17:06
Re: Great Pyramid has two secret empty chambers maybe 182 will2learn2000 03-Feb-11 17:15
Re: Great Pyramid has two secret empty chambers maybe 227 MJT 03-Feb-11 22:14
Re: Great Pyramid has two secret chambers 218 Scott Creighton 01-Feb-11 15:46
Re: Great Pyramid has two secret chambers 236 Scott Creighton 01-Feb-11 15:47
Re: Great Pyramid has two secret chambers 227 MJT 01-Feb-11 20:31
Re: Great Pyramid has two secret chambers 249 Sirfiroth 01-Feb-11 15:48
Re: Great Pyramid has two secret chambers 241 MJT 02-Feb-11 07:47
Re: Great Pyramid has two secret chambers 285 Sirfiroth 02-Feb-11 14:12
Re: Great Pyramid has two secret chambers 188 charly 02-Feb-11 15:19
Re: Great Pyramid has two secret chambers 220 Sirfiroth 02-Feb-11 16:18
Re: Great Pyramid has two secret chambers 185 MJT 03-Feb-11 13:56
Re: Great Pyramid has two secret chambers 192 Sirfiroth 03-Feb-11 15:38
Re: Great Pyramid has two secret chambers 208 MJT 03-Feb-11 16:22
Re: Great Pyramid has two secret chambers 223 Sirfiroth 03-Feb-11 17:09
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Re: Great Pyramid has two secret chambers 264 Sirfiroth 04-Feb-11 02:47
Re: Great Pyramid has two secret chambers 218 MJT 04-Feb-11 20:39
Re: Great Pyramid has two secret chambers 199 MJT 04-Feb-11 20:57
Re: Great Pyramid has two secret chambers 222 Sirfiroth 05-Feb-11 01:06
Re: Great Pyramid has two secret chambers 238 MJT 05-Feb-11 10:32
Re: Great Pyramid has two secret chambers 237 Martin Stower 15-Feb-11 14:21
Re: Great Pyramid has two secret chambers 605 MJT 15-Feb-11 19:07
Re: Great Pyramid has two secret chambers 241 MJT 02-Feb-11 17:26
Re: Great Pyramid has two secret chambers 181 Sirfiroth 02-Feb-11 18:02
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