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Warwick wrote:

> it is an insult to imply that anyone who does say "I think
> they could have used ramps" is not basing that conclusion on
> their understanding of the eivdcen rather than belief
>

Individually this is true but I rarely apply it individually. Collectively egyptology has been seeking proof of ramps for 150 years and have believed in them as long. It's this collective belief I rail against. It's the assumption that they could "only have been built with ramps" that is the problem.

Individually people in the field have different ideas. Even ramp proponents usually will believe that their idea is built on a solid foundation. They can point to extensive evidence for ramps and most have no reason to doubt they could have been used. But people who believed in a flat earth or the earth as the center of the universe had the evidence of their own eyes. Common sense says that man is the pinnacle of creation and the universe revolves around him.

Of course the pyramids were built with ramps. It's not like there were any aliens or our ancestors would have all been aghast.



Man fears the pyramid, time fears man.

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Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 342 Scott Creighton 05-Feb-10 12:31
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 266 Scott Creighton 05-Feb-10 15:41
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 240 cladking 05-Feb-10 17:01
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 197 sher 05-Feb-10 17:37
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 219 Scott Creighton 05-Feb-10 18:27
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 265 papalou 05-Feb-10 18:36
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 288 sher 05-Feb-10 19:23
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 279 cladking 05-Feb-10 20:16
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 235 sher 05-Feb-10 21:44
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 236 cladking 05-Feb-10 21:59
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 211 sher 05-Feb-10 22:22
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 251 cladking 05-Feb-10 22:57
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 221 sher 05-Feb-10 23:20
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 263 cladking 05-Feb-10 23:34
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 266 sher 05-Feb-10 23:55
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 277 papalou 06-Feb-10 02:09
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 233 cladking 06-Feb-10 02:48
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 217 sher 06-Feb-10 06:47
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 256 David L 06-Feb-10 20:26
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 216 cladking 05-Feb-10 20:09
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 279 Warwick 05-Feb-10 20:11
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 199 cladking 05-Feb-10 20:20
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 226 Warwick 05-Feb-10 20:43
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 193 cladking 05-Feb-10 20:48
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 199 Warwick 05-Feb-10 20:51
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 274 Jon B 05-Feb-10 18:40
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 258 Scott Creighton 05-Feb-10 19:00
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 211 Jon B 05-Feb-10 19:12
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 221 Warwick 05-Feb-10 19:17
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 182 cladking 05-Feb-10 20:27
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 256 Scott Creighton 05-Feb-10 19:57
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 182 Warwick 05-Feb-10 20:04
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 256 Jon B 05-Feb-10 20:21
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 277 cladking 05-Feb-10 20:31
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 248 Jon B 05-Feb-10 20:37
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 272 cladking 05-Feb-10 20:58
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 228 Scott Creighton 05-Feb-10 20:45
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 239 cladking 05-Feb-10 20:26
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 270 Jon B 05-Feb-10 21:28
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 242 Warwick 06-Feb-10 18:20
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 230 cladking 06-Feb-10 22:32
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 272 Jon B 07-Feb-10 11:48
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 245 cladking 07-Feb-10 16:39
sigh.... 200 Warwick 05-Feb-10 19:15
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 239 cladking 05-Feb-10 20:25
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 189 Warwick 05-Feb-10 20:48
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 267 cladking 05-Feb-10 21:11
trying to get the thread back on topic 245 Warwick 06-Feb-10 18:16
Re: trying to get the thread back on topic 237 cladking 06-Feb-10 22:37
ONE MORE TRY...... 241 Warwick 07-Feb-10 16:26
Re: ONE MORE TRY...... 236 cladking 07-Feb-10 16:43
Re: ONE MORE TRY...... 229 Warwick 07-Feb-10 18:45
Re: ONE MORE TRY...... 218 cladking 07-Feb-10 19:00
Re: ONE MORE TRY...... 227 Warwick 08-Feb-10 17:30
Re: ONE MORE TRY...... 191 cladking 08-Feb-10 21:47
Re: ONE MORE TRY...... 267 Jon B 08-Feb-10 22:17
Re: ONE MORE TRY...... 204 cladking 08-Feb-10 22:52
Re: ONE MORE TRY...... 218 Jon B 09-Feb-10 08:21
Re: ONE MORE TRY...... 272 cladking 09-Feb-10 16:47
Re: ONE MORE TRY...... 281 Warwick 09-Feb-10 16:05
Re: ONE MORE TRY...... 273 cladking 09-Feb-10 16:33
Re: ONE MORE TRY...... 217 Warwick 09-Feb-10 17:25
Re: ONE MORE TRY...... 202 cladking 09-Feb-10 17:36
I found the external Ramp 223 sher 09-Feb-10 20:32
Re: I found the external Ramp 275 cladking 09-Feb-10 21:01
Re: I found the external Ramp 177 sher 09-Feb-10 21:59
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 211 Warwick 05-Feb-10 19:33
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 220 cladking 05-Feb-10 20:35
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 276 cladking 05-Feb-10 20:13
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 194 Warwick 05-Feb-10 18:59
FTR 243 Warwick 05-Feb-10 19:08
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 194 cladking 05-Feb-10 20:43
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 223 carolb 05-Feb-10 20:17
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 222 Warwick 05-Feb-10 20:22
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 199 carolb 05-Feb-10 20:41
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 262 cladking 05-Feb-10 21:03
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 261 Jon B 05-Feb-10 20:31
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 181 carolb 05-Feb-10 20:42
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 209 Scott Creighton 05-Feb-10 20:54
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 226 carolb 05-Feb-10 20:56
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 252 cladking 05-Feb-10 21:00
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 179 carolb 05-Feb-10 21:02
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 239 Scott Creighton 05-Feb-10 21:04
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 243 cladking 05-Feb-10 21:07
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 197 Scott Creighton 05-Feb-10 21:17
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 276 cladking 05-Feb-10 22:08
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 259 michael seabrook 06-Feb-10 00:05
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 262 Elizabeth Newton 06-Feb-10 07:48
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 237 Scott Creighton 06-Feb-10 12:16
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 261 Elizabeth Newton 07-Feb-10 16:26
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 182 Rob Miller 07-Feb-10 16:30
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 180 Elizabeth Newton 08-Feb-10 04:01
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Re: Old Kingdom Tyrants? 234 Titus Livius 07-Feb-10 12:38
Re: Old Kingdom Tyrants? 273 sher 07-Feb-10 14:09
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Re: Old Kingdom Tyrants? 288 Drewski 07-Feb-10 12:58
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Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 246 Titus Livius 06-Feb-10 09:37
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 261 Archae Solenhofen 06-Feb-10 18:50
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 244 Susan Doris 06-Feb-10 19:02
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 247 cladking 06-Feb-10 22:51
Some photos 256 Jon B 06-Feb-10 10:53
Re: Some photos 170 sher 06-Feb-10 12:20
Re: Some photos 172 Jon B 06-Feb-10 12:46
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Re: Uhmmm,... 239 Jon B 06-Feb-10 12:48
Re: Uhmmm,... 195 sher 06-Feb-10 12:54
Re: Uhmmm,... 206 Jon B 06-Feb-10 12:56
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