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Warwick wrote:

> it is an insult to imply that anyone who does say "I think
> they could have used ramps" is not basing that conclusion on
> their understanding of the eivdcen rather than belief
>

Individually this is true but I rarely apply it individually. Collectively egyptology has been seeking proof of ramps for 150 years and have believed in them as long. It's this collective belief I rail against. It's the assumption that they could "only have been built with ramps" that is the problem.

Individually people in the field have different ideas. Even ramp proponents usually will believe that their idea is built on a solid foundation. They can point to extensive evidence for ramps and most have no reason to doubt they could have been used. But people who believed in a flat earth or the earth as the center of the universe had the evidence of their own eyes. Common sense says that man is the pinnacle of creation and the universe revolves around him.

Of course the pyramids were built with ramps. It's not like there were any aliens or our ancestors would have all been aghast.



Man fears the pyramid, time fears man.

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Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 338 Scott Creighton 05-Feb-10 12:31
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 264 Scott Creighton 05-Feb-10 15:41
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 237 cladking 05-Feb-10 17:01
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 194 sher 05-Feb-10 17:37
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 217 Scott Creighton 05-Feb-10 18:27
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 261 papalou 05-Feb-10 18:36
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 283 sher 05-Feb-10 19:23
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 276 cladking 05-Feb-10 20:16
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 233 sher 05-Feb-10 21:44
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 234 cladking 05-Feb-10 21:59
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 208 sher 05-Feb-10 22:22
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 248 cladking 05-Feb-10 22:57
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 218 sher 05-Feb-10 23:20
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 260 cladking 05-Feb-10 23:34
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 264 sher 05-Feb-10 23:55
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 275 papalou 06-Feb-10 02:09
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 230 cladking 06-Feb-10 02:48
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 215 sher 06-Feb-10 06:47
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 254 David L 06-Feb-10 20:26
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 213 cladking 05-Feb-10 20:09
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 277 Warwick 05-Feb-10 20:11
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 197 cladking 05-Feb-10 20:20
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 222 Warwick 05-Feb-10 20:43
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 191 cladking 05-Feb-10 20:48
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 197 Warwick 05-Feb-10 20:51
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 270 Jon B 05-Feb-10 18:40
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 255 Scott Creighton 05-Feb-10 19:00
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 208 Jon B 05-Feb-10 19:12
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 219 Warwick 05-Feb-10 19:17
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 180 cladking 05-Feb-10 20:27
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 253 Scott Creighton 05-Feb-10 19:57
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 177 Warwick 05-Feb-10 20:04
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 254 Jon B 05-Feb-10 20:21
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 274 cladking 05-Feb-10 20:31
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 244 Jon B 05-Feb-10 20:37
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 270 cladking 05-Feb-10 20:58
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 226 Scott Creighton 05-Feb-10 20:45
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 236 cladking 05-Feb-10 20:26
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 266 Jon B 05-Feb-10 21:28
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 240 Warwick 06-Feb-10 18:20
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 225 cladking 06-Feb-10 22:32
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 270 Jon B 07-Feb-10 11:48
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 243 cladking 07-Feb-10 16:39
sigh.... 198 Warwick 05-Feb-10 19:15
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 234 cladking 05-Feb-10 20:25
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 187 Warwick 05-Feb-10 20:48
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 265 cladking 05-Feb-10 21:11
trying to get the thread back on topic 243 Warwick 06-Feb-10 18:16
Re: trying to get the thread back on topic 233 cladking 06-Feb-10 22:37
ONE MORE TRY...... 239 Warwick 07-Feb-10 16:26
Re: ONE MORE TRY...... 230 cladking 07-Feb-10 16:43
Re: ONE MORE TRY...... 227 Warwick 07-Feb-10 18:45
Re: ONE MORE TRY...... 215 cladking 07-Feb-10 19:00
Re: ONE MORE TRY...... 223 Warwick 08-Feb-10 17:30
Re: ONE MORE TRY...... 188 cladking 08-Feb-10 21:47
Re: ONE MORE TRY...... 262 Jon B 08-Feb-10 22:17
Re: ONE MORE TRY...... 202 cladking 08-Feb-10 22:52
Re: ONE MORE TRY...... 210 Jon B 09-Feb-10 08:21
Re: ONE MORE TRY...... 266 cladking 09-Feb-10 16:47
Re: ONE MORE TRY...... 278 Warwick 09-Feb-10 16:05
Re: ONE MORE TRY...... 270 cladking 09-Feb-10 16:33
Re: ONE MORE TRY...... 215 Warwick 09-Feb-10 17:25
Re: ONE MORE TRY...... 199 cladking 09-Feb-10 17:36
I found the external Ramp 220 sher 09-Feb-10 20:32
Re: I found the external Ramp 273 cladking 09-Feb-10 21:01
Re: I found the external Ramp 175 sher 09-Feb-10 21:59
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 208 Warwick 05-Feb-10 19:33
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 218 cladking 05-Feb-10 20:35
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 274 cladking 05-Feb-10 20:13
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 192 Warwick 05-Feb-10 18:59
FTR 241 Warwick 05-Feb-10 19:08
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 190 cladking 05-Feb-10 20:43
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 220 carolb 05-Feb-10 20:17
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 220 Warwick 05-Feb-10 20:22
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 196 carolb 05-Feb-10 20:41
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 259 cladking 05-Feb-10 21:03
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 257 Jon B 05-Feb-10 20:31
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 178 carolb 05-Feb-10 20:42
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 206 Scott Creighton 05-Feb-10 20:54
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 223 carolb 05-Feb-10 20:56
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 250 cladking 05-Feb-10 21:00
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 177 carolb 05-Feb-10 21:02
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 236 Scott Creighton 05-Feb-10 21:04
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 240 cladking 05-Feb-10 21:07
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 194 Scott Creighton 05-Feb-10 21:17
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 274 cladking 05-Feb-10 22:08
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 256 michael seabrook 06-Feb-10 00:05
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 260 Elizabeth Newton 06-Feb-10 07:48
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 233 Scott Creighton 06-Feb-10 12:16
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 257 Elizabeth Newton 07-Feb-10 16:26
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 180 Rob Miller 07-Feb-10 16:30
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 178 Elizabeth Newton 08-Feb-10 04:01
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Re: Old Kingdom Tyrants? 232 Titus Livius 07-Feb-10 12:38
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Re: Old Kingdom Tyrants? 286 Drewski 07-Feb-10 12:58
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Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 241 Titus Livius 06-Feb-10 09:37
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 258 Archae Solenhofen 06-Feb-10 18:50
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 240 Susan Doris 06-Feb-10 19:02
Re: Little Room For Khufu's Ramp.... 245 cladking 06-Feb-10 22:51
Some photos 254 Jon B 06-Feb-10 10:53
Re: Some photos 167 sher 06-Feb-10 12:20
Re: Some photos 170 Jon B 06-Feb-10 12:46
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Re: Uhmmm,... 237 Jon B 06-Feb-10 12:48
Re: Uhmmm,... 193 sher 06-Feb-10 12:54
Re: Uhmmm,... 202 Jon B 06-Feb-10 12:56
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