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My friend Sher,

As you know by know, I'm not a "defender of orthodox faith". I am quite open to conceive another kind of history and rewrite all the books if necessary, but before... you need to prove without doubt that the great pyramids were built much before accepted and they were only restored by the pharaos of 4th dynasty.

Well, about the erosion you mention, is there a scientific consensus about this claim? Or are we talking about the similar debate on the age of the sphynx? I also read that the salt inside the pyramid might be a proof of a great flood. However, are there other reasonable explanations for this? If those arguments were absolutely clear and self-evident, even the most conservative egyptologists should admit them.

Bear in my mind that these claims are more than breaking all the accepted chronologies; in fact, this suppose:

- To recognize that there was a great global flood at the end of last Ice age.
- To assume that the pyramid were there in that epoch.
- To assume that an advanced civilization built those monuments in a time when Mankind was supposed to live in a very early neolithic age (in the best of cases) if not at the end of the paleolithic period.
- That there are two different contexts for pyramids (the prediluvian and the historical).

Then, what happened between 10000 BC and 3100 BC, when the fisrt dynasties appeared? And at the end, we reach the same old question: where is the civilization that built those monuments? The same one that "played" with gravity, as you suggest, instead of "suffering" it. I don't want to play the role of a "Lehner's follower", but I need more conclusive evidence to accept some very audacious ideas (in the same line as Thunderbird's last post about the initiated).

Thanks,
TL

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