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Scott Creighton wrote:

>Broken record, Archae. Bauval and Hancock have conceded that
>they got the numbers wrong but that the AEs quarried, raised
>and moved 200+ ton blocks at Giza is indisputable - as you well
>know. Bauval and Hancock are materially correct - 200+ ton
>blocks were moved at Giza.

Yes that's right "material correct" in that they are no where near the Valley Temple and the Sphinx, all at ground level, they are not stacked in walls 3 courses high, they did not actually have to lift them very high if at all, there are only 4-5 of them and not hundreds, the smallest are not even remotely close to being greater than 50 tons, all right next to the quarry 10s of meters away if not in it, modern cranes are more than quite capable moving them just as the were for claims of 100s, the 4th dynasty ancient Egyptians can move the actual blocks as well with levers since lever slots were found, etc. etc. etc/ etc..... Ya that's right, the ancient lost ones must still have done the actual more than just considerably less of a feat than originally claimed..... but that is quite ridiculous since the 4th dynasty ancient Egyptians were quite capable of building the Valley Temple just like they were able to build the Kings Chamber in the GP. Is not the King's Chamber now considered by Mr. Hancock to be 4th dynasty or is it now to be considered suspended in mid air by the "Lost's" antigravity projector for thousands of years just waiting for the primatives to come along and give it a coat of pyramid? Yes when one is forced to tweak the treads on the pretty tapestry it starts to unravel. I noticed you have not created a new house to fit the revised smaller and now quite unsound foundations, I guess it's a little hard with all the smoke, flashing mirrors, rubber arming in the way, and a quarter deck of limp noodles to do so..... ooh Ye must yearn for a return of the Good old Days when it was so easier to get away with it.

>And let us not obfuscate here - it
>takes the same amount of force to move said blocks 1 inch as it
>does to move it one mile.

Not if it's downhill.... after all the nearest quarry of hard massive limestone like that used in much of the Valley temple is the Sphinx's head and that deposit is above all the blocks in Khafre's Valley temple. And if it's over a level surface or up hill it didn't stop the 4th dynasty ancient Egyptians for moving greater than 50 ton granite roofing beams into the King's Chamber over and over and over again, oh and transport them 100s of km from Aswan as well.

>It is the energy expended that is
>different.

"It's the force needed stupid" doesn't really have the same oomph as 100 of 200+ ton blocks too heavy for modern cranes to build into walls. For someone who uses the word "obfuscate" you seem to be rather selective in its use on actual examples of such.

>And let us not forget here, Graham has publicly stated on this
>forum that if he has the opportunity, he will update future
>editions of his books. No doubt when this occurs you will
>STILL be harping like a broken record of he they got the
>numbers wrong in the earlier editions.

"opportunity"? Ya, only if.... I guess he it too busy writing another novel to correct the websites that are now on the net that actually have the complete text of FOG on them. Maybe you will have more luck in finding an opportunity in that then he has.... were all waiting.

Here is some for a start.....
<[www.bibliotecapleyades.net];
[www.scribd.com]

Oh when you finished with those then there is the other book's links.....

>Tell me - how long do you think it will be before we get an
>orthodox book that corrects the misleading "Queens Chamber"
>label? There's a wee task for you - get a hold of every
>orthodox book published with this misleading attribution and
>correct it.

Well, you're one who has such a problem with it.... you should spend you valuable time getting them to correct it instead of on me because I am doing the same with something that clearly is held so dear to your heart. I really does not matter to me what Mr. Hancock calls the blocks in Khafre's Valley Temple as long as he removes all the trash on his way out and not just sweep it up a bit and hope no one will notice the rest of the mess left behind.

>And when you have done that, why not update all
>those ortho books that label these structures "tombs of the
>Pharaohs" when we all know that not a single body has ever been
>found in any of them. Why don't we see this little fact
>emphasised in the ortho books, Archae?

I see it ponted out all the time.... in case you didn't know it's in the cahpters on the Queen's Chamber.

>And why is the Sphinx
>attributed to Khafre when the evidence for doing is tenuous in
>the extreme?

Well, I am quite willing to go with a number of people in the Khufu's family since the uraeus on the Sphinx head (that clearly was not recarved much, if at all) is known to have been used by them and not the Lost Ancients.

>Glass houses, Archae. Get your own house in order first before
>casting stones at others.

Oh, that rights Scott.... I can't now point out any more examples of where there is gross exaggerations in alternative literature (gross exaggerations, I might add, that clearly had no validity in reality when they were made and contradicted what was known to have been there as well as common sense), add to this your last attempt at such so that I can't make criticism of an alternative author's claims until the author makes an explanation for it first, taking years in ever to do so.... anything else you want to hamstring me with for your's and your freind's benefit, and not that of others. So much for the advancement of truth....

Archae Solenhofen (solenhofen@hotmail.com)

>SC

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