Mysteries :  The Official GrahamHancock.com forums
For serious discussion of the controversies, approaches and enigmas surrounding the origins and development of the human species and of human civilization. (NB: for more ‘out there’ posts we point you in the direction of the ‘Paranormal & Supernatural’ Message Board). 
Welcome! Log InRegister
* Archaeological Encyclopedia of the Holy Land (2005) pg. 362

Although sparse ceramic remains from the Early to Late Bronze Age and the Late Iron Age were found, there is no archaeological evidence of built structures from these period, aside from tombs. The primary structures and material remains derive from the town of the Late Hellenistic to Late Roman periods, a Byzantine church and monastery, minor Early Islamic period remains and acrusader church and monastery.

A necropolis, a few silos and sheds for farm implements. Continuous inhabitation since the Bronze Age? LOL!!!

1955-1960 Excavations conducted by Father Bellarmino Bagatti (Professor, Studium Biblicum Franciscanum at Flagellation, Jerusalem). Beneath his own church and adjoining land, Bagatti discovered numerous caves and hollows. Some of these caves have obviously had a great deal of use, over many centuries. Most are tombs, many from the Bronze Age. Others have been adapted for use as water cisterns, as vats for oil or as 'silos' for grain. Apparently, there were indications that Nazareth had been 'refounded' in Hasmonean times after a long period when the area had been deserted. Yet overwhelmingly, archaeological evidence from before the second century is funerary. Obliged to admit a dearth of suitable evidence of habitation, none the less, Bagatti was able conclude that 1st century AD Nazareth had been 'a small agricultural village settled by a few dozen families.'

With a great leap of faith the partisan diggers declared what they had found was 'the village of Jesus, Mary & Joseph' – though they had not found a village at all, and certainly no evidence of particular individuals. The finds were consistent, in fact, with isolated horticultural activity, close to a necropolis of long-usage.

Rather conveniently for the Catholic Church, questionable graffiti also indicated that the shrine was dedicated to the Virgin Mary, no less!

Yet one point is inescapable: the Jewish disposition towards the 'uncleanliness' of the dead. The Jews, according to their customs, would not build a village in the immediate vicinity of tombs and vice versa. Tombs would have to be outside any village.

"The tombs, both those discovered by Bagatti and others known from earlier explorations, would have been placed outside the village and serve, in fact, to delimit its circumference for us. Looking at their locations on the plans drawn up by Bagatti (1.28) or Finegan (27), one realizes just how small the village actually was ..."

–J.D. Crossan (The Historical Jesus)


But just how small can we get before giving up on a 'village'? The presence of numerous rock-cut tombs that close to the 'grotto' is evidence that, in the 1st century, in that area, there was no village. The area was not inhabited, even if it was used.

Kick 'er back, good buddy, when you're done chokin'.

Options: ReplyQuote


Subject Views Written By Posted
Was Jesus a Myth? Blog of Acharya S 281 shamanaut 30-May-09 16:38
The work of Acharya S has been debunked 180 Milo 30-May-09 17:13
Obviously Christians are going to Gawf 130 shamanaut 30-May-09 23:14
Obviously Achyara supporters are going to Gawf 159 Milo 31-May-09 00:16
I cant debate with 'Faith' logic. 168 shamanaut 31-May-09 16:15
Re: I cant debate with 'Faith' logic. 137 Milo 31-May-09 16:24
Re: Obviously Christians are going to Gawf 175 David L 02-Jun-09 04:31
Re: Obviously Christians are going to Gawf 167 Milo 02-Jun-09 09:41
Re: Obviously Christians are going to Gawf 135 David L 03-Jun-09 04:48
Everyone on this forum has different beliefs to the next poster anyway 159 Milo 03-Jun-09 09:50
Re: The work of Acharya S has been debunked 153 David Campbell 31-May-09 01:02
Nazareth - Archeological Evidence 193 Milo 31-May-09 01:10
Re: Nazareth - Archeological Evidence 119 David Campbell 31-May-09 02:02
Re: Nazareth - Archeological Evidence 144 Milo 31-May-09 02:23
Re: Nazareth - Archeological Evidence 141 Eddie Larry 31-May-09 03:06
Re: Nazareth - Archeological Evidence 145 Milo 31-May-09 03:18
Re: Nazareth - Archeological Evidence 143 Eddie Larry 31-May-09 03:33
Re: Nazareth - Archeological Evidence 121 Milo 31-May-09 03:47
Re: Nazareth - Archeological Evidence 149 David Campbell 31-May-09 04:44
Plagiarism 163 Milo 31-May-09 11:12
Re: Plagiarism 139 David Campbell 31-May-09 17:14
Re: Plagiarism 157 Milo 31-May-09 17:31
Re: Plagiarism 175 Lee McGiffen 03-Jun-09 14:08
Re: Plagiarism 121 Milo 03-Jun-09 21:48
Re: Plagiarism 166 Lee McGiffen 04-Jun-09 02:29
Re: Plagiarism 164 Milo 04-Jun-09 02:34
Demons 149 Milo 04-Jun-09 02:40
Re: Demons 122 Lee McGiffen 04-Jun-09 02:50
Re: Demons 147 Milo 04-Jun-09 03:03
Re: Plagiarism 138 Milo 04-Jun-09 03:07
Re: Plagiarism 125 Lee McGiffen 04-Jun-09 05:23
Re: Plagiarism 140 Milo 04-Jun-09 12:14
Re: Plagiarism 159 Lee McGiffen 04-Jun-09 12:30
Re: Plagiarism 142 Milo 04-Jun-09 12:35
Re: The work of Acharya S has been debunked 139 papalou 03-Jun-09 23:03
Re: The work of Acharya S has been debunked 154 Milo 03-Jun-09 23:09
Re: The work of Acharya S has been debunked 158 papalou 04-Jun-09 18:01
Re: The work of Acharya S has been debunked 136 Milo 04-Jun-09 18:57
Re: The work of Acharya S has been debunked 124 martinpescatore 04-Jun-09 19:06
Re: The work of Acharya S has been debunked 137 papalou 07-Jun-09 22:40
Re: The work of Acharya S has been debunked 118 Milo 08-Jun-09 04:41
Re: The work of Acharya S has been debunked 153 martinpescatore 08-Jun-09 08:25
Re: The work of Acharya S has been debunked 159 Milo 08-Jun-09 12:42
Re: The work of Acharya S has been debunked 107 martinpescatore 08-Jun-09 13:49
Re: The work of Acharya S has been debunked 182 Milo 08-Jun-09 13:53
Re: The work of Acharya S has been debunked 152 martinpescatore 08-Jun-09 14:44
Re: The work of Acharya S has been debunked 152 Milo 08-Jun-09 14:52
Re: The work of Acharya S has been debunked 147 martinpescatore 08-Jun-09 15:23
Re: The work of Acharya S has been debunked 146 Milo 08-Jun-09 15:32
Re: The work of Acharya S has been debunked 138 martinpescatore 08-Jun-09 16:14
Re: The work of Acharya S has been debunked 143 Milo 08-Jun-09 16:21
Re: The work of Acharya S has been debunked 108 martinpescatore 08-Jun-09 16:31
Re: The work of Acharya S has been debunked 132 Milo 08-Jun-09 16:34
Re: The work of Acharya S has been debunked 137 papalou 09-Jun-09 04:13
Re: The work of Acharya S has been debunked 126 Milo 09-Jun-09 05:18
Re: Was Jesus a Myth? Blog of Acharya S 153 David Campbell 31-May-09 00:42
The Underlying Agenda 123 Milo 31-May-09 01:03
Re: The Underlying Agenda 160 David Campbell 31-May-09 01:18
Re: The Underlying Agenda 158 Milo 31-May-09 01:27
O wunden, wundenwoller heilige Speer! 125 Milo 31-May-09 01:48
Re: O wunden, wundenwoller heilige Speer! 154 David Campbell 31-May-09 02:41
Re: O wunden, wundenwoller heilige Speer! 114 Milo 31-May-09 02:44
Herodias, Magdalen and Prakriti 141 Milo 31-May-09 02:52
Re: Herodias, Magdalen and Prakriti 117 David Campbell 31-May-09 03:58
Re: Herodias, Magdalen and Prakriti 175 Milo 31-May-09 04:11
Re: Herodias, Magdalen and Prakriti 159 David Campbell 31-May-09 04:22
Re: Herodias, Magdalen and Prakriti 137 Milo 31-May-09 04:31
Re: Herodias, Magdalen and Prakriti 160 Milo 31-May-09 04:34
Re: The Underlying Agenda 151 David Campbell 31-May-09 02:28
Re: The Underlying Agenda 155 Milo 31-May-09 02:40
Re: The Underlying Agenda 147 David Campbell 31-May-09 03:03
Re: The Underlying Agenda 157 Milo 31-May-09 03:20
Re: The Underlying Agenda 147 David Campbell 31-May-09 04:11
Re: The Underlying Agenda 180 Milo 31-May-09 04:29
Re: The Underlying Agenda 138 The Kwuda 01-Jun-09 17:43
Re: The Underlying Agenda 121 Milo 01-Jun-09 19:14
Re: The Underlying Agenda 144 The Kwuda 02-Jun-09 10:55
Re: The Underlying Agenda 132 Milo 02-Jun-09 11:09
Re: The Underlying Agenda 126 The Kwuda 02-Jun-09 11:40
Re: The Underlying Agenda 164 Milo 02-Jun-09 13:41
Re: The Underlying Agenda 105 The Kwuda 02-Jun-09 11:51
Re: The Underlying Agenda 163 Milo 02-Jun-09 13:42
Re: The Underlying Agenda 145 The Kwuda 02-Jun-09 17:16
Re: The Underlying Agenda 143 Milo 02-Jun-09 22:04
Re: The Underlying Agenda 170 shamanaut 31-May-09 16:47
source of my quote 130 shamanaut 31-May-09 16:48
Re: source of my quote 165 Milo 31-May-09 17:27
Re: source of my quote 138 Milo 31-May-09 17:40
Here's the firebrigade, fire turns to smoke... 152 Raja 01-Jun-09 21:25
Re: Here's the firebrigade, fire turns to smoke... 155 Raja 01-Jun-09 21:30
Re: Here's the firebrigade, fire turns to smoke... 147 R and M 02-Jun-09 09:18
Re: Here's the firebrigade, fire turns to smoke... 143 The Kwuda 02-Jun-09 11:04
Re: Here's the firebrigade, fire turns to smoke... 126 The Kwuda 02-Jun-09 17:45
Re: Here's the firebrigade, fire turns to smoke... 173 R and M 03-Jun-09 04:28
Re: Here's the firebrigade, fire turns to smoke... 135 The Kwuda 04-Jun-09 06:39
Re: Here's the firebrigade, fire turns to smoke... 153 Milo 04-Jun-09 10:35
Re: Here's the firebrigade, fire turns to smoke... 128 The Kwuda 05-Jun-09 23:31
Re: Here's the firebrigade, fire turns to smoke... 161 Milo 05-Jun-09 23:34
Re: Here's the firebrigade, fire turns to smoke... 114 The Kwuda 05-Jun-09 23:37
Re: Here's the firebrigade, fire turns to smoke... 171 Milo 05-Jun-09 23:37
Re: Here's the firebrigade, fire turns to smoke... 139 The Kwuda 05-Jun-09 23:40
Re: Here's the firebrigade, fire turns to smoke... 131 Milo 05-Jun-09 23:43
Re: Here's the firebrigade, fire turns to smoke... 109 The Kwuda 05-Jun-09 23:46
Re: Here's the firebrigade, fire turns to smoke... 153 Milo 05-Jun-09 23:47
Re: Here's the firebrigade, fire turns to smoke... 152 The Kwuda 05-Jun-09 23:43
Re: Here's the firebrigade, fire turns to smoke... 119 Milo 05-Jun-09 23:44
Re: Here's the firebrigade, fire turns to smoke... 149 The Kwuda 05-Jun-09 23:39
Re: Here's the firebrigade, fire turns to smoke... 151 Milo 05-Jun-09 23:41
Re: Here's the firebrigade, fire turns to smoke... 126 The Kwuda 05-Jun-09 23:44
Re: Here's the firebrigade, fire turns to smoke... 118 Milo 05-Jun-09 23:45
Re: Here's the firebrigade, fire turns to smoke... 126 The Kwuda 05-Jun-09 23:47
Re: Here's the firebrigade, fire turns to smoke... 120 Milo 05-Jun-09 23:48
Re: Here's the firebrigade, fire turns to smoke... 129 The Kwuda 05-Jun-09 23:50
Re: Here's the firebrigade, fire turns to smoke... 145 Milo 05-Jun-09 23:51
Re: Here's the firebrigade, fire turns to smoke... 143 The Kwuda 05-Jun-09 23:53
Re: Here's the firebrigade, fire turns to smoke... 140 Milo 05-Jun-09 23:53
Re: Here's the firebrigade, fire turns to smoke... 143 The Kwuda 05-Jun-09 23:51
Re: Here's the firebrigade, fire turns to smoke... 110 Milo 05-Jun-09 23:53
Re: Here's the firebrigade, fire turns to smoke... 118 The Kwuda 05-Jun-09 23:55
Re: Here's the firebrigade, fire turns to smoke... 158 Milo 05-Jun-09 23:56
Re: Here's the firebrigade, fire turns to smoke... 145 The Kwuda 05-Jun-09 23:58
Re: Here's the firebrigade, fire turns to smoke... 149 Milo 06-Jun-09 00:02
Re: Here's the firebrigade, fire turns to smoke... 148 The Kwuda 06-Jun-09 00:01
Re: Here's the firebrigade, fire turns to smoke... 167 Milo 06-Jun-09 00:03
Re: Here's the firebrigade, fire turns to smoke... 121 The Kwuda 06-Jun-09 00:06
Re: Here's the firebrigade, fire turns to smoke... 135 Milo 06-Jun-09 00:09
Re: Here's the firebrigade, fire turns to smoke... 114 The Kwuda 06-Jun-09 00:13
Re: Here's the firebrigade, fire turns to smoke... 151 Milo 06-Jun-09 00:28
Re: Here's the firebrigade, fire turns to smoke... 157 R and M 04-Jun-09 10:49
The two seeds of Genesis 3 126 Milo 04-Jun-09 11:39
Re: The two seeds of Genesis 3 141 R and M 05-Jun-09 05:47
Re: The two seeds of Genesis 3 136 Milo 05-Jun-09 10:21
Re: The two seeds of Genesis 3 157 R and M 05-Jun-09 13:29
Re: The two seeds of Genesis 3 140 ariston 05-Jun-09 13:41
Re: The two seeds of Genesis 3 110 Milo 05-Jun-09 14:14
correction... 125 Milo 05-Jun-09 14:16
Re: correction... 129 ariston 05-Jun-09 14:39
Ying and Yang is a flawed philosophy 159 Milo 05-Jun-09 15:01
correction... 143 Milo 05-Jun-09 15:45
Re: correction... 113 ariston 05-Jun-09 18:16
Re: correction... 156 Milo 05-Jun-09 22:30
Re: correction... 152 ariston 06-Jun-09 02:19
Re: correction... 142 Milo 06-Jun-09 03:00
Re: correction... 113 ariston 06-Jun-09 04:12
Re: correction... 142 Milo 06-Jun-09 04:23
Re: correction... 146 Eddie Larry 07-Jun-09 15:23
Re: correction... 145 Milo 07-Jun-09 17:42
Re: correction... 160 Eddie Larry 09-Jun-09 02:50
Re: correction... 146 Milo 09-Jun-09 05:19
Re: correction... 105 Eddie Larry 10-Jun-09 00:50
Re: correction... 147 Milo 10-Jun-09 05:02
Re: Ying and Yang is a flawed philosophy 151 papalou 07-Jun-09 22:53
Re: Ying and Yang is a flawed philosophy 131 papalou 07-Jun-09 23:15
Re: Ying and Yang is a flawed philosophy 144 Milo 08-Jun-09 04:45
Re: Ying and Yang is a flawed philosophy 147 papalou 07-Jun-09 23:24
Re: Ying and Yang is a flawed philosophy 119 Milo 08-Jun-09 04:48
Re: Ying and Yang is a flawed philosophy 129 papalou 09-Jun-09 04:18
Re: Ying and Yang is a flawed philosophy 158 Milo 09-Jun-09 05:20
Re: Ying and Yang is a flawed philosophy 108 Milo 08-Jun-09 04:44
Re: The two seeds of Genesis 3 157 R and M 06-Jun-09 07:54
ABC 163 Milo 06-Jun-09 12:36
Re: the end 161 R and M 07-Jun-09 10:12
Re: the end 143 Milo 07-Jun-09 11:20
Re: the end 124 R and M 08-Jun-09 07:15
Re: Here's the firebrigade, fire turns to smoke... 144 The Kwuda 02-Jun-09 11:00
Re: Here's the firebrigade, fire turns to smoke... 147 Milo 02-Jun-09 11:10
Re: Here's the firebrigade, fire turns to smoke... 142 The Kwuda 02-Jun-09 11:37
Re: Here's the firebrigade, fire turns to smoke... 134 The Kwuda 02-Jun-09 11:43
Re: Here's the firebrigade, fire turns to smoke... 128 Milo 02-Jun-09 13:44
Re: Here's the firebrigade, fire turns to smoke... 136 Milo 02-Jun-09 13:43
Re: Here's the firebrigade, fire turns to smoke... 116 The Kwuda 02-Jun-09 17:51
Re: Here's the firebrigade, fire turns to smoke... 141 shamanaut 03-Jun-09 17:07
Re: Here's the firebrigade, fire turns to smoke... 119 Milo 03-Jun-09 21:50
Re: Here's the firebrigade, fire turns to smoke... 124 Raja 04-Jun-09 07:14
Re: Here's the firebrigade, fire turns to smoke... 203 Aine 04-Jun-09 15:59
Re: Here's the firebrigade, fire turns to smoke... 152 Milo 04-Jun-09 19:07
Re: Here's the firebrigade, fire turns to smoke... 202 Aine 04-Jun-09 19:51
Re: Here's the firebrigade, fire turns to smoke... 154 Milo 04-Jun-09 20:31
Re: Here's the firebrigade, fire turns to smoke... 118 martinpescatore 04-Jun-09 21:20
Re: Here's the firebrigade, fire turns to smoke... 104 Milo 04-Jun-09 21:26
Re: Here's the firebrigade, fire turns to smoke... 159 martinpescatore 05-Jun-09 06:18
Re: Here's the firebrigade, fire turns to smoke... 173 Milo 05-Jun-09 10:22
Re: Here's the firebrigade, fire turns to smoke... 157 martinpescatore 05-Jun-09 20:16
Re: Here's the firebrigade, fire turns to smoke... 122 Raja 05-Jun-09 21:10
Re: Here's the firebrigade, fire turns to smoke... 165 carolb 04-Jun-09 20:19
Re: Here's the firebrigade, fire turns to smoke... 150 Milo 04-Jun-09 20:35
Re: Here's the firebrigade, fire turns to smoke... 161 carolb 04-Jun-09 21:23
Re: Here's the firebrigade, fire turns to smoke... 110 Milo 04-Jun-09 21:30
Re: Here's the firebrigade, fire turns to smoke... 178 carolb 04-Jun-09 22:44
Re: Here's the firebrigade, fire turns to smoke... 139 Milo 04-Jun-09 22:51
Re: Here's the firebrigade, fire turns to smoke... 147 carolb 04-Jun-09 22:59
Re: Here's the firebrigade, fire turns to smoke... 110 Milo 04-Jun-09 23:02
Re: Here's the firebrigade, fire turns to smoke... 114 carolb 04-Jun-09 23:14
Re: Here's the firebrigade, fire turns to smoke... 151 Milo 04-Jun-09 23:33
Re: Here's the firebrigade, fire turns to smoke... 139 Milo 04-Jun-09 23:35
Re: Was Jesus a Myth? Blog of Acharya S 157 Tom Hebert 02-Jun-09 18:11
jesus was a man; Jesus was a myth 141 Eddie Larry 03-Jun-09 04:44
Re: jesus was a man; Jesus was a myth 151 Susan Doris 03-Jun-09 08:40
Re: jesus was a man; Jesus was a myth 144 Eddie Larry 04-Jun-09 01:13
Re: jesus was a man; Jesus was a myth 96 Tom Hebert 03-Jun-09 10:31
Re: jesus was a man; Jesus was a myth 129 Eddie Larry 04-Jun-09 03:15
Re: jesus was a man; Jesus was a myth 130 Milo 04-Jun-09 03:16
Jesus was not a myth 144 Milo 04-Jun-09 03:18
Re: jesus was a man; Jesus was a myth 146 Eddie Larry 04-Jun-09 03:49
Re: Was Jesus a Myth? Blog of Acharya S 112 Diomede 04-Jun-09 00:11
For a guy who never existed, he gets a lot of attention on the GHMB 130 David L 04-Jun-09 02:34
Re: For a guy who never existed, he gets a lot of attention on the GHMB 134 Milo 04-Jun-09 02:38
Re: For a guy who never existed, he gets a lot of attention on the GHMB 142 Eddie Larry 04-Jun-09 03:10
Jesus 140 Milo 04-Jun-09 03:14
Diabolical Mimicry 148 Deep1 04-Jun-09 21:11
Re: Diabolical Mimicry 142 Milo 04-Jun-09 21:15
Re: Was Jesus a Myth? Blog of Acharya S 132 Enigcom 05-Jun-09 17:43
Re: Was Jesus a Myth? Blog of Acharya S 111 The Kwuda 05-Jun-09 23:49
Re: Was Jesus a Myth? Blog of Acharya S 133 Milo 05-Jun-09 23:50
Re: Was Jesus a Myth? Blog of Acharya S 117 deeside 06-Jun-09 19:42
Re: Was Jesus a Myth? Blog of Acharya S 153 Milo 06-Jun-09 20:07
Re: Was Jesus a Myth? Blog of Acharya S 158 deeside 06-Jun-09 20:47
Re: Was Jesus a Myth? Blog of Acharya S 153 Milo 06-Jun-09 20:51
Re: Was Jesus a Myth? Blog of Acharya S 160 deeside 06-Jun-09 21:08
Re: Was Jesus a Myth? Blog of Acharya S 119 Milo 06-Jun-09 21:18
Re: Was Jesus a Myth? Blog of Acharya S 156 deeside 06-Jun-09 21:52
Re: Was Jesus a Myth? Blog of Acharya S 137 deeside 07-Jun-09 09:16
Re: Was Jesus a Myth? Blog of Acharya S 149 Milo 07-Jun-09 11:16
Re: Was Jesus a Myth? Blog of Acharya S 160 childinthesun 07-Jun-09 17:02
Re: Was Jesus a Myth? Blog of Acharya S 146 Milo 07-Jun-09 17:44
Re: Was Jesus a Myth? Blog of Acharya S 154 ariston 07-Jun-09 17:52
Re: Was Jesus a Myth? Blog of Acharya S 142 Milo 07-Jun-09 18:05
Re: Was Jesus a Myth? Blog of Acharya S 126 deeside 08-Jun-09 14:46
Re: Was Jesus a Myth? Blog of Acharya S 138 Milo 08-Jun-09 14:57
Re: Was Jesus a Myth? Blog of Acharya S 164 deeside 08-Jun-09 21:32
Re: Was Jesus a Myth? Blog of Acharya S 154 Milo 09-Jun-09 05:21
Re: Was Jesus a Myth? Blog of Acharya S 145 ariston 06-Jun-09 20:52
Re: Was Jesus a Myth? Blog of Acharya S 114 Milo 06-Jun-09 21:25
Re: Was Jesus a Myth? Blog of Acharya S 167 deeside 07-Jun-09 21:24
Re: Was Jesus a Myth? Blog of Acharya S 116 Milo 08-Jun-09 04:49
Re: Was Jesus a Myth? Blog of Acharya S 131 Eddie Larry 09-Jun-09 00:23
jesus was there... 143 shazaman 09-Jun-09 09:54
Re: jesus was there... 139 papalou 11-Jun-09 02:08
Re: jesus was there... 132 Milo 11-Jun-09 08:46
Re: jesus was there... 117 martinpescatore 11-Jun-09 09:38
Re: jesus was there... 139 Milo 11-Jun-09 10:14
Re: jesus was there... 133 Milo 11-Jun-09 10:37
Re: jesus was there... 163 martinpescatore 11-Jun-09 11:32
Re: jesus was there... 167 Milo 11-Jun-09 13:17
Re: jesus was there... 137 martinpescatore 11-Jun-09 19:56
Re: jesus was there... 135 Milo 11-Jun-09 21:44
Re: Was Jesus a Myth? Blog of Acharya S 138 martinpescatore 11-Jun-09 15:36


Sorry, only registered users may post in this forum.