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turnofthetide wrote:
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> Elsewhere Ove wildly speculates Amenhotep II did not have the
> scale of ambitious building projects in the tradition of
> Hatshepsut and Thutmose III and his means the "Isralites" have
> moved away and there are no more artisans to build. Egypt had
> a long history of extraordinary artisans by the time of the Old
> Kingdom. They were native Egyptians. Amenhotep II was a very
> strong military leader who inherited a very wealthy empire. He
> was more interested in sports and shooting his bow than
> building. He liked it so much that when his intact burial was
> opened his bow was laying on his chest. Amenhotep III by
> contrast liked to build and that he did par excellance.


For instance, Amenhotep III is not even mentioned in the text which I presented, written by Oven von Spaeth. The readers can be so tired from the old trick when inventing things which are not mentioned by the author in question and then attack him for using it. It is an undisputed fact that here was a slow down in the building activities during Amenhotep II in contrast to the regime of his father, Tuthmosis III, where such activity was immense simultariously with his many years of warfare, the one activity did not exclude the other.
Ove von Spaeth suggests the great loss of skilled workers because of the Israelite exodus started, to which there is no reason to ridicule - rather the ridicule should be done concerning your unfounded statement that Amenhotep II was not much interested in continuing the building activities (so strangely in contrast to all other pharaohs of the era - it was a duty and a pharaonic practice to do so - and in the this case even easy to perform alongside with an interest in sports) .

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> It is clear Ove has done a lot of work and he cites a lot of
> sources, and some of them are quite good. The problem is that
> in the midst of all his string citing he then makes wild
> speculations and claims them to be facts. Interesting, those
> assertions always makes a molehill look like a mountain.

I have NEVER EVER in my reading of Ove von Spaeth's books, scientific papers, and other articles seen him claiming his thoughts on the events or anything alse of the kind to be facts.
On the contrary: his is presenting his views by some contexts and THEY are based on facts and data, i.e. in the same time it is information that he gives to everybody to use by their own choice.
His politics is presented openly in his preface of every book and also published on the Internet (for instance, cf. [www.moses-egypt.net] ) thus: "... Many handed-down sources and findings have, for the first time, been put into a greater context all of which should be judged in its entirety. The book is not based on single sources or solitary decisions - rather, the focus is on the presentation of a long string of clues and indications; these may be considered a "special offer" to further research. ..."
Again, you are trying to protect your lack of knowledge from being disclosed, and you are doing so by your untruthfully inventing things - this is stricktly unfair and a bad spirit of discussion and my advice is seriouly that you don't continue the debate before you can do it with honesty.

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Re: The first record of Israel and some more 271 turnofthetide 17-Jan-09 19:37
Re: The first record of Israel and some more 212 Eddie Larry 17-Jan-09 21:51
Re: The first record of Israel and some more 210 martinpescatore 17-Jan-09 23:09
Re: The first record of Israel and some more 197 Eddie Larry 18-Jan-09 01:47
Re: The first record of Israel and some more 245 Raja 18-Jan-09 03:33
Re: The first record of Israel and some more 217 Eddie Larry 18-Jan-09 15:26
Re: The first record of Israel and some more 198 Raja 18-Jan-09 15:46
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Re: The first record of Israel and some more 201 Eddie Larry 18-Jan-09 21:41
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Re: The first record of Israel and some more 216 Eddie Larry 19-Jan-09 05:52
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Re: The first record of Israel and some more 198 Eddie Larry 19-Jan-09 15:36
Re: The first record of Israel and some more 210 Raja 19-Jan-09 16:47
Re: The first record of Israel and some more 193 Eddie Larry 19-Jan-09 20:59
Re: The first record of Israel and some more 195 Tom Hebert 23-Jan-09 23:01
Re: The first record of Israel and some more 166 Eddie Larry 24-Jan-09 00:03
Re: The first record of Israel and some more 224 Raja 25-Jan-09 21:03
Re: The first record of Israel and some more 187 Tom Hebert 26-Jan-09 11:23
Re: The first record of Israel and some more 151 martinpescatore 18-Jan-09 17:13
Re: The first record of Israel and some more 221 Eddie Larry 18-Jan-09 21:46
Re: The first record of Israel and some more 271 martinpescatore 18-Jan-09 22:19
Re: The first record of Israel and some more 198 Eddie Larry 19-Jan-09 05:54
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Re: The first record of Israel and some more 208 Eddie Larry 18-Jan-09 21:42
Re: The first record of Israel and some more 194 martinpescatore 18-Jan-09 21:51
Re: The first record of Israel and some more 204 Eddie Larry 19-Jan-09 06:00
Re: The first record of Israel and some more 238 martinpescatore 17-Jan-09 23:01
Re: The first record of Israel and some more 295 turnofthetide 17-Jan-09 19:38
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Re: The first record of Israel and some more 169 turnofthetide 18-Jan-09 20:04
Re: The first record of Israel and some more 199 martinpescatore 18-Jan-09 21:29
Re: The first record of Israel and some more 190 richarddullum 19-Jan-09 03:03
Re: The first record of Israel and some more 210 martinpescatore 19-Jan-09 05:54
Re: The first record of Israel and some more 240 turnofthetide 19-Jan-09 06:41
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Re: The first record of Israel and some more 242 turnofthetide 19-Jan-09 16:41
Re: Thank you, and good luck with your generalities and inventions 238 martinpescatore 19-Jan-09 21:11
Re: Thank you, and good luck with your generalities and inventions 232 turnofthetide 19-Jan-09 22:31
Re: Exodus of Hebrews during time of Hyksos Kings. 329 Thunderbird 23-Jan-09 05:05
Re: The first record of Israel and some more 245 Riaan 23-Jan-09 10:46


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