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> "The only thing "ad hoc" is the speculation regarding the meaning of the mythologies and the selective ways they are manipulated to suit Velikovsky's theory. It is not considering the whole picture but deals with a convenient subset of the entirely of mythology which is an array of linked stories.

Indeed!
But not quite.

Being apparently "selective" as you say, was for an entirely different reason and the material content of his works were certainly not "manipulated".

As for "speculation" (and rather curiously), all such myths have a similar "ring" to them all over the world.

To briefly explain:

Velikovsky actually mentioned that while writing his works, the amount of mythological evidence available on the subject was astonishingly multitudinous.
Indeed, he had barely scratched the surface of the subject!

ie

'Worlds in Collision' could probably have been four thousand pages in content (and much, much more too), instead of a mere four hundred pages or so.

Such an extensively written book (4,000 pages say), with all its attendant footnotes and references to consider (as with WIC), would probably not even get past the Publishers.

Which is why it seems that only the most convincingly suitable narratives were chosen to illustrate the fundamental elements of the theory.
Call these "selective" if you will, but certainly not manipulative in my view.

> "In the minds of those who study the mythologies as a scholastic discipline, this is a fundemanetal flaw in Velikvosky's conclusions when trying to link these to real world events.

I know what you mean and I do understand.

However, conversely thinking, it seems that for more than 2,700 years or so, the World has not experienced the global calamities that the ancients experienced, endured and survived (save for the odd localised Tunguska event etc),
So it would appear that globally speaking, with the passage of time, Humanity itself has naturally become complacent almost beyond comprehension or reason, as to what the ancients actually claimed to have said, albeit within the non-scientific prose of Myth.

Anyway, be that as it may.

Velikovsky's last book 'Mankind in Amnesia' was written in haste.

Why?

Because despite a whole host of similar related subjects, the essential message to convey was;

"Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it"

This in my understanding, is the entire Theme of all that Velikovsky wrote about, indeed the culmination of his theories and as such is a considerable determining factor as to the true origins of wars and other conflicts, not just on a local scale, but globally too...and such conflicts and wars do tend to follow a regular periodicity.

Perhaps this is another subject, but as a final note in this brief post, Velikovsky additionally maintained (as mentiond above), that those who do not (or indeed will not) remember the past, live in a world of complete denial and their fate is sealed ie yet more wars and conflicts etc.

Perhaps there is an antidote?

Cheers

John


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A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 881 Laird Scranton 22-Jun-08 19:45
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Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 308 legionromanes 23-Jun-08 03:37
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 305 The Kwuda 23-Jun-08 03:54
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 294 Laird Scranton 23-Jun-08 03:55
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 392 The Kwuda 23-Jun-08 04:07
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 310 legionromanes 23-Jun-08 04:09
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 299 Laird Scranton 23-Jun-08 04:13
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Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 300 Laird Scranton 23-Jun-08 04:30
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 319 legionromanes 23-Jun-08 06:10
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 285 Laird Scranton 23-Jun-08 12:39
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 331 Laird Scranton 23-Jun-08 12:46
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 335 legionromanes 23-Jun-08 15:52
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 284 Laird Scranton 23-Jun-08 20:37
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 312 carolb 23-Jun-08 20:49
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Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 320 JonnyMcA 23-Jun-08 20:50
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Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 333 Laird Scranton 23-Jun-08 21:36
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 274 JonnyMcA 23-Jun-08 21:52
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 298 Diomede 25-Nov-08 21:33
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 270 JonnyMcA 25-Nov-08 21:55
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 332 Diomede 25-Nov-08 22:16
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 341 NetWorkAngel 26-Nov-08 17:25
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 301 JonnyMcA 26-Nov-08 18:50
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 332 NetWorkAngel 26-Nov-08 20:03
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 301 JonnyMcA 26-Nov-08 20:22
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 331 Gary Gilligan 26-Nov-08 21:11
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 322 JonnyMcA 26-Nov-08 21:44
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 293 Diomede 29-Nov-08 23:12
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Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 269 Diomede 30-Nov-08 21:16
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Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 279 JonnyMcA 01-Dec-08 10:09
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 282 Diomede 01-Dec-08 20:32
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 290 JonnyMcA 01-Dec-08 22:50
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 309 Voyager 26-Nov-08 17:37
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 321 Diomede 27-Nov-08 21:42
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 262 JonnyMcA 27-Nov-08 21:59
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 275 Diomede 06-Dec-08 16:47
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 315 Nolondil 06-Dec-08 20:58
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 298 Diomede 06-Dec-08 23:13
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 310 Nolondil 07-Dec-08 19:39
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 320 Diomede 08-Dec-08 00:02
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 277 Voyager 08-Dec-08 02:49
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Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 294 Nolondil 09-Dec-08 01:44
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 311 Susan Doris 09-Dec-08 07:08
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Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 300 Voyager 28-Nov-08 05:20
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 305 Susan Doris 28-Nov-08 07:00
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 284 Diomede 06-Dec-08 23:28
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 276 Voyager 06-Dec-08 23:39
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 293 Diomede 07-Dec-08 00:19
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 306 Susan Doris 07-Dec-08 08:06
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 318 Susan Doris 07-Dec-08 07:41
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 325 Nolondil 07-Dec-08 19:42
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 348 Voyager 27-Nov-08 02:31
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 282 NetWorkAngel 27-Nov-08 15:19
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 322 JonnyMcA 27-Nov-08 15:32
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 310 legionromanes 28-Nov-08 15:10
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 295 Diomede 01-Dec-08 21:31
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 303 legionromanes 01-Dec-08 21:50
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 304 Laird Scranton 02-Dec-08 16:26
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 277 JonnyMcA 02-Dec-08 17:11
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 276 Susan Doris 02-Dec-08 18:06
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 326 Laird Scranton 02-Dec-08 19:48
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Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 275 Diomede 03-Dec-08 01:10
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Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 310 Voyager 03-Dec-08 01:03
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Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 304 degiem1 04-Dec-08 23:28
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Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 286 Voyager 05-Dec-08 00:10
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 294 Diomede 05-Dec-08 21:18
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Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 289 Laird Scranton 05-Dec-08 02:48
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 269 degiem1 05-Dec-08 19:15
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 255 Voyager 05-Dec-08 03:15
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 277 Laird Scranton 05-Dec-08 04:18
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Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 250 Diomede 06-Dec-08 22:06
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Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 252 Diomede 07-Dec-08 00:02
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 260 legionromanes 05-Dec-08 04:07
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 242 Laird Scranton 05-Dec-08 21:37
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Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 249 Laird Scranton 06-Dec-08 00:18
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Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 254 ariston 06-Dec-08 00:26
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Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 284 Laird Scranton 03-Dec-08 19:41
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 269 Diomede 07-Dec-08 02:17
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 294 legionromanes 07-Dec-08 14:21
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 227 Voyager 07-Dec-08 18:06
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 281 Diomede 08-Dec-08 00:22
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 249 legionromanes 08-Dec-08 08:24
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 288 ariston 01-Dec-08 22:04
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The "Worzel Ash" (Los Chocoyos Volcanic Ash) 929 Xebec 26-Jun-08 03:47
What does this mean? 327 drrayeye 26-Jun-08 06:19
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Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 296 mephisto 23-Jun-08 04:21
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Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 279 Laird Scranton 23-Jun-08 03:24
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Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 286 Laird Scranton 23-Jun-08 12:31
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Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 255 Laird Scranton 23-Jun-08 20:16
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Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 283 Houcad 23-Jun-08 04:46
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 279 legionromanes 23-Jun-08 06:17
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 271 Nolondil 24-Jun-08 03:10
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 283 Laird Scranton 24-Jun-08 03:13
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 279 JonnyMcA 24-Jun-08 07:18
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 275 Laird Scranton 23-Jun-08 12:37
What little I understand 288 drrayeye 23-Jun-08 09:48
Re: What little I understand 303 mephisto 24-Jun-08 14:03
Re: What little I understand 267 Susan Doris 24-Jun-08 15:45
Re: What little I understand 270 Susan Doris 24-Jun-08 17:29
Re: What little I understand 282 drrayeye 24-Jun-08 19:28
Re: What little I understand 282 Elizabeth Newton 25-Jun-08 05:00
Nice Comment 267 Ghia 25-Jun-08 13:38
Re: What little I understand 249 Susan Doris 25-Jun-08 07:36
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 281 Susan Doris 23-Jun-08 07:23
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 269 Susan Doris 23-Jun-08 07:52
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 272 JonnyMcA 23-Jun-08 10:28
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Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 271 Laird Scranton 23-Jun-08 12:50
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 291 JonnyMcA 23-Jun-08 13:23
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 266 drrayeye 23-Jun-08 16:08
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 286 JonnyMcA 23-Jun-08 16:28
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 301 legionromanes 23-Jun-08 16:40
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 286 Susan Doris 23-Jun-08 17:01
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 291 JonnyMcA 23-Jun-08 17:14
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 307 drrayeye 23-Jun-08 17:02
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 287 legionromanes 23-Jun-08 17:13
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 266 NetWorkAngel 23-Jun-08 17:52
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 273 drrayeye 23-Jun-08 17:55
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Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 278 drrayeye 23-Jun-08 18:34
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Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 344 JonnyMcA 23-Jun-08 19:00
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 238 legionromanes 23-Jun-08 19:40
Laird Scranton 359 drrayeye 23-Jun-08 19:11
Re: Laird Scranton 277 legionromanes 23-Jun-08 19:41
Moderator Note: 271 Hoppy 24-Jun-08 22:11
Re: Moderator Note: 295 Cognito 24-Jun-08 22:35
Re: Moderator Note:Moderator response 252 Ghia 24-Jun-08 23:00
Re: Moderator Note: 231 Hoppy 24-Jun-08 23:05
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 330 Laird Scranton 23-Jun-08 20:14
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 264 legionromanes 23-Jun-08 20:28
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 275 NetWorkAngel 23-Jun-08 21:32
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 282 legionromanes 23-Jun-08 22:18
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 276 JonnyMcA 23-Jun-08 22:21
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 269 Laird Scranton 23-Jun-08 22:30
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 270 JonnyMcA 23-Jun-08 22:42
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 260 Laird Scranton 23-Jun-08 23:19
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 272 Drewski 23-Jun-08 23:51
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 303 Laird Scranton 24-Jun-08 01:26
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 297 legionromanes 24-Jun-08 01:55
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 238 Cognito 24-Jun-08 04:19
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Possibility of venus as a comet. 260 JonnyMcA 24-Jun-08 13:22
Re: Possibility of venus as a comet. 274 legionromanes 24-Jun-08 14:18
Re: Possibility of venus as a comet. 277 JonnyMcA 24-Jun-08 14:44
Water telescope 299 Ghia 24-Jun-08 17:46
Re: Possibility of venus as a comet. 300 Johnee 24-Jun-08 15:42
Re: Possibility of venus as a comet. 283 JonnyMcA 24-Jun-08 16:05
Re: Possibility of venus as a comet. 273 Johnee 24-Jun-08 16:44
Re: Possibility of venus as a comet. 250 JonnyMcA 24-Jun-08 17:15
Re: Possibility of venus as a comet. 272 Johnee 24-Jun-08 19:13
Re: Possibility of venus as a comet. 285 JonnyMcA 24-Jun-08 19:28
Re: Possibility of venus as a comet. 343 Johnee 24-Jun-08 23:29
Re: Possibility of venus as a comet. 281 JonnyMcA 25-Jun-08 08:53
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 336 Cognito 24-Jun-08 18:17
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 280 legionromanes 24-Jun-08 18:46
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 274 NetWorkAngel 24-Jun-08 19:04
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 314 Cognito 24-Jun-08 19:34
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 272 NetWorkAngel 24-Jun-08 19:39
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 307 Cognito 24-Jun-08 19:50
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 278 JonnyMcA 24-Jun-08 20:07
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 249 Laird Scranton 24-Jun-08 19:34
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 303 Cognito 24-Jun-08 19:52
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 254 Laird Scranton 24-Jun-08 19:40
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 291 Cognito 24-Jun-08 20:01
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 289 Laird Scranton 24-Jun-08 20:08
Mod Note 272 JonnyMcA 24-Jun-08 20:11
Re: Mod Note 258 Laird Scranton 24-Jun-08 20:14
Re: Mod Note 261 JonnyMcA 24-Jun-08 20:20
Re: Mod Note 250 Hoppy 24-Jun-08 23:08
Re: Mod Note 258 Laird Scranton 24-Jun-08 23:19
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 255 Cognito 24-Jun-08 20:32
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 261 Laird Scranton 24-Jun-08 20:40
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 238 Cognito 24-Jun-08 21:07
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 281 Laird Scranton 24-Jun-08 21:38
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 283 Cognito 24-Jun-08 22:14
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 246 Laird Scranton 24-Jun-08 22:37
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 238 Laird Scranton 24-Jun-08 22:48
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 267 Cognito 24-Jun-08 23:03
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 289 Laird Scranton 24-Jun-08 23:29
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 301 Cognito 25-Jun-08 03:08
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 280 Laird Scranton 25-Jun-08 03:25
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Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 277 Laird Scranton 25-Jun-08 04:06
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Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 248 legionromanes 25-Jun-08 19:22
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 270 Laird Scranton 25-Jun-08 21:56
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 311 Laird Scranton 25-Jun-08 21:58
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 309 Laird Scranton 26-Jun-08 03:25
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 251 legionromanes 26-Jun-08 03:36
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 232 JonnyMcA 26-Jun-08 07:36
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 279 Laird Scranton 26-Jun-08 12:26
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 354 JonnyMcA 26-Jun-08 12:48
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 263 mephisto 26-Jun-08 14:01
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 283 JonnyMcA 26-Jun-08 14:12
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 302 Laird Scranton 26-Jun-08 15:30
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 292 Laird Scranton 26-Jun-08 16:35
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 273 Cognito 26-Jun-08 22:22
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 288 Laird Scranton 26-Jun-08 23:26
Moderator Note 292 Hoppy 25-Jun-08 01:52
Re: Moderator Note 271 Laird Scranton 25-Jun-08 02:36
Re: Moderator Note 241 Hoppy 25-Jun-08 22:49
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 297 Laird Scranton 24-Jun-08 20:34
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 291 legionromanes 24-Jun-08 20:56
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 266 Laird Scranton 24-Jun-08 21:03
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Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 249 legionromanes 24-Jun-08 01:56
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Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 286 JonnyMcA 24-Jun-08 07:13
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Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 274 Laird Scranton 24-Jun-08 12:44
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 273 Laird Scranton 24-Jun-08 12:58
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 261 Laird Scranton 26-Jun-08 03:39
Venus see--Venus do 308 drrayeye 26-Jun-08 08:19
Re: Venus see--Venus do 320 Laird Scranton 26-Jun-08 12:19
Re: Venus see--Venus do 284 Laird Scranton 26-Jun-08 12:37
Re: Venus see--Venus do 252 Laird Scranton 26-Jun-08 12:41
Re: Venus see--Venus do 247 JonnyMcA 26-Jun-08 14:01
Re: Venus see--Venus do 287 NetWorkAngel 26-Jun-08 16:45
Re: Venus see--Venus do 265 JonnyMcA 26-Jun-08 12:54
Re: Venus see--Venus do 291 legionromanes 26-Jun-08 13:15
Re: Venus see--Venus do 293 drrayeye 26-Jun-08 18:07
Re: Venus see--Venus do 250 Laird Scranton 26-Jun-08 21:06
Re: Venus see--Venus do 303 JonnyMcA 26-Jun-08 21:38
Re: Venus see--Venus do 300 Laird Scranton 26-Jun-08 23:33
Re: Venus see--Venus do 266 Laird Scranton 27-Jun-08 02:16
Re: Venus see--Venus do 268 Laird Scranton 27-Jun-08 03:26
Re: Venus see--Venus do 242 Laird Scranton 27-Jun-08 03:28
Re: Venus see--Venus do 256 JonnyMcA 27-Jun-08 07:55
Re: Venus see--Venus do 221 Me 27-Jun-08 02:19
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 304 Laird Scranton 24-Jun-08 03:24
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 218 R and M 24-Jun-08 03:42
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 249 NetWorkAngel 24-Jun-08 14:55
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 264 JonnyMcA 24-Jun-08 15:41
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 321 legionromanes 24-Jun-08 15:42
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 264 R and M 24-Jun-08 03:39
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 324 Susan Doris 24-Jun-08 15:50
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 315 Laird Scranton 24-Jun-08 18:12
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 259 Laird Scranton 24-Jun-08 19:45
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 290 NetWorkAngel 24-Jun-08 19:47
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 278 Laird Scranton 24-Jun-08 20:05
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 275 JonnyMcA 24-Jun-08 20:12
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 209 JonnyMcA 24-Jun-08 20:13
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 247 NetWorkAngel 25-Jun-08 14:59
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 193 JonnyMcA 25-Jun-08 15:23
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 235 NetWorkAngel 25-Jun-08 15:31
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 209 Laird Scranton 24-Jun-08 19:51
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 241 JonnyMcA 24-Jun-08 20:19
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 246 The Kwuda 24-Jun-08 20:28
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 259 JonnyMcA 24-Jun-08 20:33
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 261 Me 25-Jun-08 02:02
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 271 Laird Scranton 25-Jun-08 02:42
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 314 Laird Scranton 25-Jun-08 03:24
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 281 legionromanes 25-Jun-08 12:38
Moderator Note 251 Hoppy 26-Jun-08 00:52
Re: Moderator Note 294 JonnyMcA 26-Jun-08 08:12
Re: Moderator Note 256 legionromanes 26-Jun-08 16:49
Re: Moderator Note 212 Hoppy 27-Jun-08 00:50
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 268 legionromanes 24-Jun-08 21:05
Laird, have you seen this? 246 mephisto 26-Jun-08 15:23
Re: Laird, have you seen this? 280 mephisto 26-Jun-08 16:02
Re: Laird, have you seen this? 248 legionromanes 26-Jun-08 17:24
Re: Laird, have you seen this? 272 mephisto 27-Jun-08 01:53
Re: Laird, have you seen this? 254 Laird Scranton 27-Jun-08 02:23
Re: Laird, have you seen this? 257 legionromanes 27-Jun-08 13:47
Re: Laird, have you seen this? 243 Laird Scranton 27-Jun-08 02:18
Re: Laird, have you seen this? 232 mephisto 27-Jun-08 02:23
Re: Laird, have you seen this? 285 Laird Scranton 27-Jun-08 03:14
Re: Laird, have you seen this? 254 mephisto 27-Jun-08 03:38
Re: Laird, have you seen this? 259 mephisto 27-Jun-08 05:46
Re: Laird, have you seen this? 245 legionromanes 27-Jun-08 13:52
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 276 Diomede 25-Nov-08 22:33
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 232 Joe Atlantis 28-Nov-08 05:51
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 267 Diomede 28-Nov-08 22:57
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 283 Joe Atlantis 12-Dec-08 13:38
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 255 Diomede 12-Dec-08 16:50
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 270 Joe Atlantis 12-Dec-08 23:33
Thread Closed 265 JonnyMcA 12-Dec-08 23:50


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