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This would suggest that venus hit mars. If this were the case there are two problems

1) The Roche limit,

2) conservation of momentum.


In 1) when two massive objects approach one another, they become distorted by tidal effects, and invariablly the less massive one tends to get shreded by the more massive one. Venus at least 8 times as massive as mars, so mars would not have survived the impact. It would be in very tiny pieces. So why does mars still exist?

In 2) we have the momentum before = momentum after any interaction. Asumming that the collison is perfectly elastic (no loss of kinetic energy), then when you knock the two planets together, mars will recieve a bigger deflection from venus, than venus will get from mars. Such a knock is most likely to increase the eccentricty of mars, and even its orbital inclination with respect to the ecliptic, depending on the angle of impact, and how much of a glancing strike it was. So why dont we see mars on a highly eccentric orbit?? Or did it happen to settle down into a circual orbit too??

Finally, if you read the article, the impactor of mars is believed to be about half the size of mercury, and if we assume it to be rocky, then that would mean it would have a mass in the region of 1.5 - 2 x 10^20 Kg. This is most certainly not the same size or mass of Venus.

Also if venus had just been born, it would have been molten, so obviously you would not see a mars sized crater on it. Which leads on to another valid point.

According to thermodynamic models, based on the volume of a planet, and its composition, the cooling of the surface from liquid rock to solid rock, takes of the order of millions of years certainly not the 5000 years that Velikovsky implies..

Evidence from detrital zircons for theexistence of continental crust and oceans on the Earth 4.4 Gyr ago., The above refernce shows that earth had a solid crust after 150 million years of its first formation. Since Venus is of the same approximate size and density, one would resonably assume that it should be similar, and take a similar length of time.

Jonny




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A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 878 Laird Scranton 22-Jun-08 19:45
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Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 292 Laird Scranton 23-Jun-08 03:55
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 383 The Kwuda 23-Jun-08 04:07
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 308 legionromanes 23-Jun-08 04:09
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Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 285 Laird Scranton 23-Jun-08 12:39
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 331 Laird Scranton 23-Jun-08 12:46
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 332 legionromanes 23-Jun-08 15:52
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 283 Laird Scranton 23-Jun-08 20:37
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 312 carolb 23-Jun-08 20:49
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Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 320 JonnyMcA 23-Jun-08 20:50
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Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 332 Laird Scranton 23-Jun-08 21:36
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 274 JonnyMcA 23-Jun-08 21:52
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 297 Diomede 25-Nov-08 21:33
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 270 JonnyMcA 25-Nov-08 21:55
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 332 Diomede 25-Nov-08 22:16
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 340 NetWorkAngel 26-Nov-08 17:25
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 300 JonnyMcA 26-Nov-08 18:50
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 331 NetWorkAngel 26-Nov-08 20:03
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 300 JonnyMcA 26-Nov-08 20:22
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 329 Gary Gilligan 26-Nov-08 21:11
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 321 JonnyMcA 26-Nov-08 21:44
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 293 Diomede 29-Nov-08 23:12
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 307 JonnyMcA 29-Nov-08 23:41
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 268 Diomede 30-Nov-08 21:16
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Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 277 JonnyMcA 01-Dec-08 10:09
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 281 Diomede 01-Dec-08 20:32
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 290 JonnyMcA 01-Dec-08 22:50
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 309 Voyager 26-Nov-08 17:37
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 320 Diomede 27-Nov-08 21:42
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 262 JonnyMcA 27-Nov-08 21:59
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 275 Diomede 06-Dec-08 16:47
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 312 Nolondil 06-Dec-08 20:58
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 297 Diomede 06-Dec-08 23:13
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 308 Nolondil 07-Dec-08 19:39
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Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 277 Voyager 08-Dec-08 02:49
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 323 Diomede 09-Dec-08 01:03
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 292 Nolondil 09-Dec-08 01:44
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 310 Susan Doris 09-Dec-08 07:08
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Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 298 Susan Doris 12-Dec-08 14:40
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Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 300 Voyager 28-Nov-08 05:20
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 304 Susan Doris 28-Nov-08 07:00
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 281 Diomede 06-Dec-08 23:28
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 276 Voyager 06-Dec-08 23:39
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 292 Diomede 07-Dec-08 00:19
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 304 Susan Doris 07-Dec-08 08:06
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 318 Susan Doris 07-Dec-08 07:41
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 324 Nolondil 07-Dec-08 19:42
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 347 Voyager 27-Nov-08 02:31
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 281 NetWorkAngel 27-Nov-08 15:19
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 321 JonnyMcA 27-Nov-08 15:32
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 310 legionromanes 28-Nov-08 15:10
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 295 Diomede 01-Dec-08 21:31
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 302 legionromanes 01-Dec-08 21:50
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 303 Laird Scranton 02-Dec-08 16:26
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 275 JonnyMcA 02-Dec-08 17:11
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 276 Susan Doris 02-Dec-08 18:06
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 324 Laird Scranton 02-Dec-08 19:48
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 286 Laird Scranton 02-Dec-08 20:42
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 312 NetWorkAngel 02-Dec-08 20:43
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 275 Diomede 03-Dec-08 01:10
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 295 Diomede 02-Dec-08 23:26
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 310 Voyager 03-Dec-08 01:03
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 311 Laird Scranton 03-Dec-08 15:45
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 302 degiem1 04-Dec-08 23:28
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 275 Laird Scranton 04-Dec-08 23:46
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 286 Voyager 05-Dec-08 00:10
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 294 Diomede 05-Dec-08 21:18
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 256 Voyager 05-Dec-08 23:08
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 278 Susan Doris 06-Dec-08 07:24
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 290 Diomede 06-Dec-08 20:29
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Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 278 degiem1 05-Dec-08 00:19
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 275 Laird Scranton 05-Dec-08 00:58
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 261 degiem1 05-Dec-08 01:59
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 286 Laird Scranton 05-Dec-08 02:48
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 268 degiem1 05-Dec-08 19:15
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 254 Voyager 05-Dec-08 03:15
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 276 Laird Scranton 05-Dec-08 04:18
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Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 249 Diomede 06-Dec-08 22:06
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Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 252 Diomede 07-Dec-08 00:02
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Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 242 Laird Scranton 05-Dec-08 21:37
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Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 252 ariston 06-Dec-08 00:26
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Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 283 Laird Scranton 03-Dec-08 19:41
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 268 Diomede 07-Dec-08 02:17
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 294 legionromanes 07-Dec-08 14:21
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 225 Voyager 07-Dec-08 18:06
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 279 Diomede 08-Dec-08 00:22
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 248 legionromanes 08-Dec-08 08:24
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 288 ariston 01-Dec-08 22:04
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 266 Voyager 28-Nov-08 05:23
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 314 Diomede 06-Dec-08 23:51
The "Worzel Ash" (Los Chocoyos Volcanic Ash) 926 Xebec 26-Jun-08 03:47
What does this mean? 327 drrayeye 26-Jun-08 06:19
Re: What does this mean? 260 legionromanes 26-Jun-08 14:53
Re: What does this mean? 283 drrayeye 26-Jun-08 16:59
Re: What does this mean? 243 legionromanes 26-Jun-08 17:23
Re: What does this mean? 318 drrayeye 26-Jun-08 17:55
Re: What does this mean? 274 legionromanes 26-Jun-08 18:40
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 296 mephisto 23-Jun-08 04:21
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 242 legionromanes 23-Jun-08 04:24
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 278 Laird Scranton 23-Jun-08 03:24
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 302 legionromanes 23-Jun-08 04:25
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 286 Laird Scranton 23-Jun-08 12:31
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 272 legionromanes 23-Jun-08 15:55
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 253 Laird Scranton 23-Jun-08 20:16
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 275 legionromanes 23-Jun-08 20:18
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 282 Houcad 23-Jun-08 04:46
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 278 legionromanes 23-Jun-08 06:17
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 270 Nolondil 24-Jun-08 03:10
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 283 Laird Scranton 24-Jun-08 03:13
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 279 JonnyMcA 24-Jun-08 07:18
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 274 Laird Scranton 23-Jun-08 12:37
What little I understand 287 drrayeye 23-Jun-08 09:48
Re: What little I understand 301 mephisto 24-Jun-08 14:03
Re: What little I understand 265 Susan Doris 24-Jun-08 15:45
Re: What little I understand 269 Susan Doris 24-Jun-08 17:29
Re: What little I understand 280 drrayeye 24-Jun-08 19:28
Re: What little I understand 281 Elizabeth Newton 25-Jun-08 05:00
Nice Comment 266 Ghia 25-Jun-08 13:38
Re: What little I understand 249 Susan Doris 25-Jun-08 07:36
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 280 Susan Doris 23-Jun-08 07:23
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 268 Susan Doris 23-Jun-08 07:52
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 267 JonnyMcA 23-Jun-08 10:28
Laird does not believe Velikovsky is correct 260 drrayeye 23-Jun-08 12:23
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 269 Laird Scranton 23-Jun-08 12:50
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 290 JonnyMcA 23-Jun-08 13:23
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 265 drrayeye 23-Jun-08 16:08
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 285 JonnyMcA 23-Jun-08 16:28
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 301 legionromanes 23-Jun-08 16:40
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 284 Susan Doris 23-Jun-08 17:01
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 291 JonnyMcA 23-Jun-08 17:14
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 307 drrayeye 23-Jun-08 17:02
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 286 legionromanes 23-Jun-08 17:13
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 266 NetWorkAngel 23-Jun-08 17:52
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 268 drrayeye 23-Jun-08 17:55
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 274 legionromanes 23-Jun-08 18:20
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 276 drrayeye 23-Jun-08 18:34
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 305 legionromanes 23-Jun-08 18:37
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 343 JonnyMcA 23-Jun-08 19:00
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 238 legionromanes 23-Jun-08 19:40
Laird Scranton 359 drrayeye 23-Jun-08 19:11
Re: Laird Scranton 277 legionromanes 23-Jun-08 19:41
Moderator Note: 268 Hoppy 24-Jun-08 22:11
Re: Moderator Note: 292 Cognito 24-Jun-08 22:35
Re: Moderator Note:Moderator response 252 Ghia 24-Jun-08 23:00
Re: Moderator Note: 231 Hoppy 24-Jun-08 23:05
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 328 Laird Scranton 23-Jun-08 20:14
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 264 legionromanes 23-Jun-08 20:28
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 275 NetWorkAngel 23-Jun-08 21:32
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 280 legionromanes 23-Jun-08 22:18
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 275 JonnyMcA 23-Jun-08 22:21
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 268 Laird Scranton 23-Jun-08 22:30
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 266 JonnyMcA 23-Jun-08 22:42
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 259 Laird Scranton 23-Jun-08 23:19
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 272 Drewski 23-Jun-08 23:51
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 301 Laird Scranton 24-Jun-08 01:26
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 295 legionromanes 24-Jun-08 01:55
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 236 Cognito 24-Jun-08 04:19
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 278 Laird Scranton 24-Jun-08 12:37
Possibility of venus as a comet. 258 JonnyMcA 24-Jun-08 13:22
Re: Possibility of venus as a comet. 274 legionromanes 24-Jun-08 14:18
Re: Possibility of venus as a comet. 276 JonnyMcA 24-Jun-08 14:44
Water telescope 296 Ghia 24-Jun-08 17:46
Re: Possibility of venus as a comet. 300 Johnee 24-Jun-08 15:42
Re: Possibility of venus as a comet. 283 JonnyMcA 24-Jun-08 16:05
Re: Possibility of venus as a comet. 273 Johnee 24-Jun-08 16:44
Re: Possibility of venus as a comet. 249 JonnyMcA 24-Jun-08 17:15
Re: Possibility of venus as a comet. 272 Johnee 24-Jun-08 19:13
Re: Possibility of venus as a comet. 285 JonnyMcA 24-Jun-08 19:28
Re: Possibility of venus as a comet. 343 Johnee 24-Jun-08 23:29
Re: Possibility of venus as a comet. 280 JonnyMcA 25-Jun-08 08:53
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 333 Cognito 24-Jun-08 18:17
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 280 legionromanes 24-Jun-08 18:46
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 274 NetWorkAngel 24-Jun-08 19:04
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 313 Cognito 24-Jun-08 19:34
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 271 NetWorkAngel 24-Jun-08 19:39
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 307 Cognito 24-Jun-08 19:50
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 277 JonnyMcA 24-Jun-08 20:07
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 249 Laird Scranton 24-Jun-08 19:34
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 302 Cognito 24-Jun-08 19:52
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 253 Laird Scranton 24-Jun-08 19:40
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 291 Cognito 24-Jun-08 20:01
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 289 Laird Scranton 24-Jun-08 20:08
Mod Note 270 JonnyMcA 24-Jun-08 20:11
Re: Mod Note 254 Laird Scranton 24-Jun-08 20:14
Re: Mod Note 261 JonnyMcA 24-Jun-08 20:20
Re: Mod Note 250 Hoppy 24-Jun-08 23:08
Re: Mod Note 257 Laird Scranton 24-Jun-08 23:19
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 255 Cognito 24-Jun-08 20:32
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 259 Laird Scranton 24-Jun-08 20:40
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 237 Cognito 24-Jun-08 21:07
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 281 Laird Scranton 24-Jun-08 21:38
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 282 Cognito 24-Jun-08 22:14
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 246 Laird Scranton 24-Jun-08 22:37
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 238 Laird Scranton 24-Jun-08 22:48
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 267 Cognito 24-Jun-08 23:03
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 288 Laird Scranton 24-Jun-08 23:29
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 301 Cognito 25-Jun-08 03:08
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 278 Laird Scranton 25-Jun-08 03:25
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 297 Laird Scranton 25-Jun-08 03:32
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 275 Laird Scranton 25-Jun-08 04:06
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 251 Laird Scranton 25-Jun-08 14:56
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 248 legionromanes 25-Jun-08 19:22
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 270 Laird Scranton 25-Jun-08 21:56
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 309 Laird Scranton 25-Jun-08 21:58
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 308 Laird Scranton 26-Jun-08 03:25
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 251 legionromanes 26-Jun-08 03:36
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 232 JonnyMcA 26-Jun-08 07:36
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 279 Laird Scranton 26-Jun-08 12:26
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 350 JonnyMcA 26-Jun-08 12:48
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 262 mephisto 26-Jun-08 14:01
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 283 JonnyMcA 26-Jun-08 14:12
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 302 Laird Scranton 26-Jun-08 15:30
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 291 Laird Scranton 26-Jun-08 16:35
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 271 Cognito 26-Jun-08 22:22
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 288 Laird Scranton 26-Jun-08 23:26
Moderator Note 291 Hoppy 25-Jun-08 01:52
Re: Moderator Note 271 Laird Scranton 25-Jun-08 02:36
Re: Moderator Note 240 Hoppy 25-Jun-08 22:49
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 295 Laird Scranton 24-Jun-08 20:34
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 291 legionromanes 24-Jun-08 20:56
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 265 Laird Scranton 24-Jun-08 21:03
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 249 legionromanes 24-Jun-08 21:12
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 293 Laird Scranton 24-Jun-08 01:29
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 249 legionromanes 24-Jun-08 01:56
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 211 Laird Scranton 24-Jun-08 03:16
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 234 Laird Scranton 24-Jun-08 03:37
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 283 JonnyMcA 24-Jun-08 07:13
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 229 JonnyMcA 24-Jun-08 08:13
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 273 Laird Scranton 24-Jun-08 12:44
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 269 Laird Scranton 24-Jun-08 12:58
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 260 Laird Scranton 26-Jun-08 03:39
Venus see--Venus do 307 drrayeye 26-Jun-08 08:19
Re: Venus see--Venus do 318 Laird Scranton 26-Jun-08 12:19
Re: Venus see--Venus do 284 Laird Scranton 26-Jun-08 12:37
Re: Venus see--Venus do 251 Laird Scranton 26-Jun-08 12:41
Re: Venus see--Venus do 246 JonnyMcA 26-Jun-08 14:01
Re: Venus see--Venus do 285 NetWorkAngel 26-Jun-08 16:45
Re: Venus see--Venus do 264 JonnyMcA 26-Jun-08 12:54
Re: Venus see--Venus do 289 legionromanes 26-Jun-08 13:15
Re: Venus see--Venus do 293 drrayeye 26-Jun-08 18:07
Re: Venus see--Venus do 248 Laird Scranton 26-Jun-08 21:06
Re: Venus see--Venus do 302 JonnyMcA 26-Jun-08 21:38
Re: Venus see--Venus do 299 Laird Scranton 26-Jun-08 23:33
Re: Venus see--Venus do 265 Laird Scranton 27-Jun-08 02:16
Re: Venus see--Venus do 266 Laird Scranton 27-Jun-08 03:26
Re: Venus see--Venus do 242 Laird Scranton 27-Jun-08 03:28
Re: Venus see--Venus do 255 JonnyMcA 27-Jun-08 07:55
Re: Venus see--Venus do 219 Me 27-Jun-08 02:19
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 302 Laird Scranton 24-Jun-08 03:24
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 218 R and M 24-Jun-08 03:42
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 249 NetWorkAngel 24-Jun-08 14:55
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 263 JonnyMcA 24-Jun-08 15:41
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 319 legionromanes 24-Jun-08 15:42
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 264 R and M 24-Jun-08 03:39
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 323 Susan Doris 24-Jun-08 15:50
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 315 Laird Scranton 24-Jun-08 18:12
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 259 Laird Scranton 24-Jun-08 19:45
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 289 NetWorkAngel 24-Jun-08 19:47
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 277 Laird Scranton 24-Jun-08 20:05
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 274 JonnyMcA 24-Jun-08 20:12
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 208 JonnyMcA 24-Jun-08 20:13
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 246 NetWorkAngel 25-Jun-08 14:59
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 191 JonnyMcA 25-Jun-08 15:23
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 234 NetWorkAngel 25-Jun-08 15:31
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 208 Laird Scranton 24-Jun-08 19:51
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 241 JonnyMcA 24-Jun-08 20:19
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 245 The Kwuda 24-Jun-08 20:28
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 258 JonnyMcA 24-Jun-08 20:33
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 261 Me 25-Jun-08 02:02
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 270 Laird Scranton 25-Jun-08 02:42
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 312 Laird Scranton 25-Jun-08 03:24
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 280 legionromanes 25-Jun-08 12:38
Moderator Note 251 Hoppy 26-Jun-08 00:52
Re: Moderator Note 292 JonnyMcA 26-Jun-08 08:12
Re: Moderator Note 255 legionromanes 26-Jun-08 16:49
Re: Moderator Note 212 Hoppy 27-Jun-08 00:50
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 266 legionromanes 24-Jun-08 21:05
Laird, have you seen this? 246 mephisto 26-Jun-08 15:23
Re: Laird, have you seen this? 278 mephisto 26-Jun-08 16:02
Re: Laird, have you seen this? 247 legionromanes 26-Jun-08 17:24
Re: Laird, have you seen this? 272 mephisto 27-Jun-08 01:53
Re: Laird, have you seen this? 254 Laird Scranton 27-Jun-08 02:23
Re: Laird, have you seen this? 256 legionromanes 27-Jun-08 13:47
Re: Laird, have you seen this? 243 Laird Scranton 27-Jun-08 02:18
Re: Laird, have you seen this? 232 mephisto 27-Jun-08 02:23
Re: Laird, have you seen this? 284 Laird Scranton 27-Jun-08 03:14
Re: Laird, have you seen this? 254 mephisto 27-Jun-08 03:38
Re: Laird, have you seen this? 258 mephisto 27-Jun-08 05:46
Re: Laird, have you seen this? 244 legionromanes 27-Jun-08 13:52
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 276 Diomede 25-Nov-08 22:33
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 231 Joe Atlantis 28-Nov-08 05:51
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 265 Diomede 28-Nov-08 22:57
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 283 Joe Atlantis 12-Dec-08 13:38
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 254 Diomede 12-Dec-08 16:50
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 267 Joe Atlantis 12-Dec-08 23:33
Thread Closed 265 JonnyMcA 12-Dec-08 23:50


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