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The Strange Venus Resonance

Venus passes closer to the Earth than any other planet. Venus' sidereal rotation is 243.0187 earth days. The sidereal rotation is the length of time the planet spins as referenced to the distant stars. Venus and Pluto are the only planets that rotate retrogressively. The Venus sidereal year is 224.7 earth days. Notice that the sidereal day is longer than the year. The day night cycle (not the same as the sidereal day) is 116.8 earth days. The sun rises in the West and sets 58.4 days later in the East.

The Earth and Venus have a close approach every 583.9 days. The formula for calculating the approximate interval for closest approach of Venus is:

1 / PREL = 1 / PVENUS - 1 / PEARTH = 1 / 224.7 - 1 / 365.26 = 1 / 583.9

P is the period in earth days of the sidereal orbit. PREL is the synodic period. The synodic period we are looking for is the time between inferior conjunctions. Every 584 days the earth has traveled one full orbit plus 215 degrees. Meanwhile Venus has completed 2 full circuits plus 215 degrees (2.6 times). During those circuits it has not passed the earth. Venus has also rotated in a retrograde direction 2.4 times or 2 CW rotations plus 145 degrees. Venus has a remarkable alignment. The same side faces us at every inferior conjunction. Every fifth midnight, a point on the surface of Venus, is aligned toward the Earth at inferior conjunction.

Scientists say the Earth has no way of exerting any significant tidal torque on Venus. At inferior conjunction, the distance between the two planets is .27 AU or 41 million km. This is less than the closest distance that Mercury makes to the Sun. Earth and Venus each have a mass less than 1/300,000 of the sun's mass. We certainly do not experience tides from Venus. In fact most of us are not even aware that Venus is so close because the conjunction happens on the sunny side of the earth. How could this resonance have come into existence? Is this an accidental harmony or does it tell us something about the nature of the solar system? There are several ways to explain this strange synchronism.

1. The retrograde rotation and synchronicity is entirely a coincidence. Because of the elliptical orbits of Earth and Venus, any particular inferior conjunction can occur a few days from the mean. This results in a small discrepancy in the alignment on any particular conjunction. This small variation can be used by those who claim there is no real alignment.
ANSWER: The mean values are quite accurate despite the fact that the earth has an eliptical orbit. For example, on June 8, 2004 at 08:20 UTC, venus will pass across the sun at its maximum ingress. The longitude on Venus that points to the earth will be 334 .7 degrees and the angular size of Venus will be 57.8". Eight years later, Venus will again be in the same siderial location in the sky. Venus will transit the Sun on June 6, 20012 at 06:29 UTC. The longitude on Venus closest to the earth will be 337.8 degrees and the angular size will be the same. That is a three degree difference on the surface of a rotating planet far from us.

2. A collision caused Venus to rotate retrogressively. This would mean the resonance is a random event.
ANSWER: A planet has something called rotary inertia, or rigidity in space. The amount of force even from a large impact would not be enough to overcome the gyro inertia of a planet. Forces that can precess a planet almost 180 degrees must act over a longer period that an impact.

3. In the past Venus and Earth were synchronized by one or more close encounters. In a close encounter gravity could precess a planet. Precession is a torque which acts 90o in the direction of rotation. That means a torque in the horizontal axis will rotate the planet about the vertical axis. Precessing the spin axis 180 degrees is equivalent to changing the direction of rotation without reducing the rotational momentum of the planet.

- Laird

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A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 700 Laird Scranton 22-Jun-08 19:45
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 258 legionromanes 22-Jun-08 19:56
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 230 Laird Scranton 23-Jun-08 00:06
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 241 legionromanes 23-Jun-08 00:25
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 258 Laird Scranton 23-Jun-08 00:36
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 230 legionromanes 23-Jun-08 00:44
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 263 Laird Scranton 23-Jun-08 01:46
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 248 Laird Scranton 23-Jun-08 00:46
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 247 legionromanes 23-Jun-08 02:03
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 249 Laird Scranton 23-Jun-08 02:10
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 248 legionromanes 23-Jun-08 02:21
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 250 Laird Scranton 23-Jun-08 02:37
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 243 legionromanes 23-Jun-08 03:37
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 235 The Kwuda 23-Jun-08 03:54
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 232 Laird Scranton 23-Jun-08 03:55
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 231 The Kwuda 23-Jun-08 04:07
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 244 legionromanes 23-Jun-08 04:09
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 215 Laird Scranton 23-Jun-08 04:13
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 232 legionromanes 23-Jun-08 04:21
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 227 Laird Scranton 23-Jun-08 04:30
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 253 legionromanes 23-Jun-08 06:10
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 217 Laird Scranton 23-Jun-08 12:39
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 267 Laird Scranton 23-Jun-08 12:46
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 246 legionromanes 23-Jun-08 15:52
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 220 Laird Scranton 23-Jun-08 20:37
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 248 carolb 23-Jun-08 20:49
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 206 legionromanes 23-Jun-08 20:49
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 246 JonnyMcA 23-Jun-08 20:50
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 245 JonnyMcA 23-Jun-08 20:52
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 260 Laird Scranton 23-Jun-08 21:36
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 213 JonnyMcA 23-Jun-08 21:52
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 232 Diomede 25-Nov-08 21:33
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 210 JonnyMcA 25-Nov-08 21:55
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 257 Diomede 25-Nov-08 22:16
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 274 NetWorkAngel 26-Nov-08 17:25
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 225 JonnyMcA 26-Nov-08 18:50
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 260 NetWorkAngel 26-Nov-08 20:03
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 241 JonnyMcA 26-Nov-08 20:22
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 246 Gary Gilligan 26-Nov-08 21:11
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 241 JonnyMcA 26-Nov-08 21:44
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 218 Diomede 29-Nov-08 23:12
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 223 JonnyMcA 29-Nov-08 23:41
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 213 Diomede 30-Nov-08 21:16
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 236 Diomede 30-Nov-08 22:28
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 208 JonnyMcA 01-Dec-08 10:09
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 217 Diomede 01-Dec-08 20:32
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 230 JonnyMcA 01-Dec-08 22:50
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 238 Voyager 26-Nov-08 17:37
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 256 Diomede 27-Nov-08 21:42
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 201 JonnyMcA 27-Nov-08 21:59
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 204 Diomede 06-Dec-08 16:47
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 231 Nolondil 06-Dec-08 20:58
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 228 Diomede 06-Dec-08 23:13
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 245 Nolondil 07-Dec-08 19:39
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 249 Diomede 08-Dec-08 00:02
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 215 Voyager 08-Dec-08 02:49
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 254 Diomede 09-Dec-08 01:03
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 222 Nolondil 09-Dec-08 01:44
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 252 Susan Doris 09-Dec-08 07:08
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 253 Diomede 12-Dec-08 12:22
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 233 Susan Doris 12-Dec-08 14:40
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 247 Diomede 12-Dec-08 16:42
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 231 Voyager 28-Nov-08 05:20
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 233 Susan Doris 28-Nov-08 07:00
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 210 Diomede 06-Dec-08 23:28
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 210 Voyager 06-Dec-08 23:39
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 218 Diomede 07-Dec-08 00:19
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 234 Susan Doris 07-Dec-08 08:06
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 252 Susan Doris 07-Dec-08 07:41
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 252 Nolondil 07-Dec-08 19:42
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 278 Voyager 27-Nov-08 02:31
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 216 NetWorkAngel 27-Nov-08 15:19
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 259 JonnyMcA 27-Nov-08 15:32
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 235 legionromanes 28-Nov-08 15:10
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 223 Diomede 01-Dec-08 21:31
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 234 legionromanes 01-Dec-08 21:50
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 228 Laird Scranton 02-Dec-08 16:26
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 201 JonnyMcA 02-Dec-08 17:11
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 209 Susan Doris 02-Dec-08 18:06
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 239 Laird Scranton 02-Dec-08 19:48
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 221 Laird Scranton 02-Dec-08 20:42
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 243 NetWorkAngel 02-Dec-08 20:43
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 212 Diomede 03-Dec-08 01:10
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 220 Diomede 02-Dec-08 23:26
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 246 Voyager 03-Dec-08 01:03
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 244 Laird Scranton 03-Dec-08 15:45
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 243 degiem1 04-Dec-08 23:28
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 212 Laird Scranton 04-Dec-08 23:46
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 212 Voyager 05-Dec-08 00:10
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 233 Diomede 05-Dec-08 21:18
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 182 Voyager 05-Dec-08 23:08
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 218 Susan Doris 06-Dec-08 07:24
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 205 Diomede 06-Dec-08 20:29
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 177 Susan Doris 07-Dec-08 07:15
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 215 degiem1 05-Dec-08 00:19
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 217 Laird Scranton 05-Dec-08 00:58
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 193 degiem1 05-Dec-08 01:59
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 200 Laird Scranton 05-Dec-08 02:48
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 204 degiem1 05-Dec-08 19:15
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 196 Voyager 05-Dec-08 03:15
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 214 Laird Scranton 05-Dec-08 04:18
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 180 Laird Scranton 05-Dec-08 04:37
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 186 Diomede 06-Dec-08 22:06
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 192 Voyager 06-Dec-08 23:45
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 194 Diomede 07-Dec-08 00:02
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 175 legionromanes 05-Dec-08 04:07
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 166 Laird Scranton 05-Dec-08 21:37
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 171 Laird Scranton 05-Dec-08 22:28
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 193 Laird Scranton 05-Dec-08 22:57
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 181 Laird Scranton 06-Dec-08 00:18
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 170 Laird Scranton 06-Dec-08 00:22
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 193 ariston 06-Dec-08 00:26
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 160 ariston 05-Dec-08 23:18
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 221 Laird Scranton 03-Dec-08 19:41
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 193 Diomede 07-Dec-08 02:17
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 221 legionromanes 07-Dec-08 14:21
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 170 Voyager 07-Dec-08 18:06
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 189 Diomede 08-Dec-08 00:22
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 179 legionromanes 08-Dec-08 08:24
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 198 ariston 01-Dec-08 22:04
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 203 Voyager 28-Nov-08 05:23
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 237 Diomede 06-Dec-08 23:51
The "Worzel Ash" (Los Chocoyos Volcanic Ash) 673 Xebec 26-Jun-08 03:47
What does this mean? 248 drrayeye 26-Jun-08 06:19
Re: What does this mean? 206 legionromanes 26-Jun-08 14:53
Re: What does this mean? 214 drrayeye 26-Jun-08 16:59
Re: What does this mean? 180 legionromanes 26-Jun-08 17:23
Re: What does this mean? 245 drrayeye 26-Jun-08 17:55
Re: What does this mean? 218 legionromanes 26-Jun-08 18:40
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 231 mephisto 23-Jun-08 04:21
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 183 legionromanes 23-Jun-08 04:24
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 221 Laird Scranton 23-Jun-08 03:24
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 225 legionromanes 23-Jun-08 04:25
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 231 Laird Scranton 23-Jun-08 12:31
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 200 legionromanes 23-Jun-08 15:55
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 186 Laird Scranton 23-Jun-08 20:16
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 212 legionromanes 23-Jun-08 20:18
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 221 Houcad 23-Jun-08 04:46
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 203 legionromanes 23-Jun-08 06:17
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 209 Nolondil 24-Jun-08 03:10
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 225 Laird Scranton 24-Jun-08 03:13
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 215 JonnyMcA 24-Jun-08 07:18
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 218 Laird Scranton 23-Jun-08 12:37
What little I understand 216 drrayeye 23-Jun-08 09:48
Re: What little I understand 235 mephisto 24-Jun-08 14:03
Re: What little I understand 201 Susan Doris 24-Jun-08 15:45
Re: What little I understand 212 Susan Doris 24-Jun-08 17:29
Re: What little I understand 215 drrayeye 24-Jun-08 19:28
Re: What little I understand 206 Elizabeth Newton 25-Jun-08 05:00
Nice Comment 199 Ghia 25-Jun-08 13:38
Re: What little I understand 182 Susan Doris 25-Jun-08 07:36
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 222 Susan Doris 23-Jun-08 07:23
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 205 Susan Doris 23-Jun-08 07:52
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 198 JonnyMcA 23-Jun-08 10:28
Laird does not believe Velikovsky is correct 188 drrayeye 23-Jun-08 12:23
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 207 Laird Scranton 23-Jun-08 12:50
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 213 JonnyMcA 23-Jun-08 13:23
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 184 drrayeye 23-Jun-08 16:08
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 221 JonnyMcA 23-Jun-08 16:28
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 227 legionromanes 23-Jun-08 16:40
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 219 Susan Doris 23-Jun-08 17:01
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 225 JonnyMcA 23-Jun-08 17:14
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 237 drrayeye 23-Jun-08 17:02
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 229 legionromanes 23-Jun-08 17:13
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 200 NetWorkAngel 23-Jun-08 17:52
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 180 drrayeye 23-Jun-08 17:55
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 212 legionromanes 23-Jun-08 18:20
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 199 drrayeye 23-Jun-08 18:34
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 221 legionromanes 23-Jun-08 18:37
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 255 JonnyMcA 23-Jun-08 19:00
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 172 legionromanes 23-Jun-08 19:40
Laird Scranton 283 drrayeye 23-Jun-08 19:11
Re: Laird Scranton 207 legionromanes 23-Jun-08 19:41
Moderator Note: 198 Hoppy 24-Jun-08 22:11
Re: Moderator Note: 214 Cognito 24-Jun-08 22:35
Re: Moderator Note:Moderator response 192 Ghia 24-Jun-08 23:00
Re: Moderator Note: 166 Hoppy 24-Jun-08 23:05
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 241 Laird Scranton 23-Jun-08 20:14
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 204 legionromanes 23-Jun-08 20:28
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 209 NetWorkAngel 23-Jun-08 21:32
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 223 legionromanes 23-Jun-08 22:18
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 202 JonnyMcA 23-Jun-08 22:21
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 206 Laird Scranton 23-Jun-08 22:30
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 201 JonnyMcA 23-Jun-08 22:42
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 193 Laird Scranton 23-Jun-08 23:19
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 195 Drewski 23-Jun-08 23:51
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 243 Laird Scranton 24-Jun-08 01:26
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 229 legionromanes 24-Jun-08 01:55
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 179 Cognito 24-Jun-08 04:19
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 218 Laird Scranton 24-Jun-08 12:37
Possibility of venus as a comet. 203 JonnyMcA 24-Jun-08 13:22
Re: Possibility of venus as a comet. 209 legionromanes 24-Jun-08 14:18
Re: Possibility of venus as a comet. 209 JonnyMcA 24-Jun-08 14:44
Water telescope 222 Ghia 24-Jun-08 17:46
Re: Possibility of venus as a comet. 241 Johnee 24-Jun-08 15:42
Re: Possibility of venus as a comet. 224 JonnyMcA 24-Jun-08 16:05
Re: Possibility of venus as a comet. 208 Johnee 24-Jun-08 16:44
Re: Possibility of venus as a comet. 186 JonnyMcA 24-Jun-08 17:15
Re: Possibility of venus as a comet. 213 Johnee 24-Jun-08 19:13
Re: Possibility of venus as a comet. 227 JonnyMcA 24-Jun-08 19:28
Re: Possibility of venus as a comet. 260 Johnee 24-Jun-08 23:29
Re: Possibility of venus as a comet. 219 JonnyMcA 25-Jun-08 08:53
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 236 Cognito 24-Jun-08 18:17
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 217 legionromanes 24-Jun-08 18:46
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 220 NetWorkAngel 24-Jun-08 19:04
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 237 Cognito 24-Jun-08 19:34
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 196 NetWorkAngel 24-Jun-08 19:39
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 204 Cognito 24-Jun-08 19:50
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 212 JonnyMcA 24-Jun-08 20:07
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 190 Laird Scranton 24-Jun-08 19:34
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 236 Cognito 24-Jun-08 19:52
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 193 Laird Scranton 24-Jun-08 19:40
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 222 Cognito 24-Jun-08 20:01
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 215 Laird Scranton 24-Jun-08 20:08
Mod Note 205 JonnyMcA 24-Jun-08 20:11
Re: Mod Note 185 Laird Scranton 24-Jun-08 20:14
Re: Mod Note 207 JonnyMcA 24-Jun-08 20:20
Re: Mod Note 190 Hoppy 24-Jun-08 23:08
Re: Mod Note 191 Laird Scranton 24-Jun-08 23:19
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 196 Cognito 24-Jun-08 20:32
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 196 Laird Scranton 24-Jun-08 20:40
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 178 Cognito 24-Jun-08 21:07
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 215 Laird Scranton 24-Jun-08 21:38
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 218 Cognito 24-Jun-08 22:14
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 186 Laird Scranton 24-Jun-08 22:37
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 180 Laird Scranton 24-Jun-08 22:48
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 205 Cognito 24-Jun-08 23:03
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 229 Laird Scranton 24-Jun-08 23:29
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 237 Cognito 25-Jun-08 03:08
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 214 Laird Scranton 25-Jun-08 03:25
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 226 Laird Scranton 25-Jun-08 03:32
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 208 Laird Scranton 25-Jun-08 04:06
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 187 Laird Scranton 25-Jun-08 14:56
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 187 legionromanes 25-Jun-08 19:22
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 206 Laird Scranton 25-Jun-08 21:56
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 221 Laird Scranton 25-Jun-08 21:58
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 246 Laird Scranton 26-Jun-08 03:25
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 193 legionromanes 26-Jun-08 03:36
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 172 JonnyMcA 26-Jun-08 07:36
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 220 Laird Scranton 26-Jun-08 12:26
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 258 JonnyMcA 26-Jun-08 12:48
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 186 mephisto 26-Jun-08 14:01
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 222 JonnyMcA 26-Jun-08 14:12
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 220 Laird Scranton 26-Jun-08 15:30
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 221 Laird Scranton 26-Jun-08 16:35
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 212 Cognito 26-Jun-08 22:22
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 218 Laird Scranton 26-Jun-08 23:26
Moderator Note 223 Hoppy 25-Jun-08 01:52
Re: Moderator Note 212 Laird Scranton 25-Jun-08 02:36
Re: Moderator Note 179 Hoppy 25-Jun-08 22:49
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 224 Laird Scranton 24-Jun-08 20:34
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 225 legionromanes 24-Jun-08 20:56
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 187 Laird Scranton 24-Jun-08 21:03
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 168 legionromanes 24-Jun-08 21:12
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 213 Laird Scranton 24-Jun-08 01:29
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 188 legionromanes 24-Jun-08 01:56
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 153 Laird Scranton 24-Jun-08 03:16
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 169 Laird Scranton 24-Jun-08 03:37
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 200 JonnyMcA 24-Jun-08 07:13
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 171 JonnyMcA 24-Jun-08 08:13
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 208 Laird Scranton 24-Jun-08 12:44
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 177 Laird Scranton 24-Jun-08 12:58
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 199 Laird Scranton 26-Jun-08 03:39
Venus see--Venus do 234 drrayeye 26-Jun-08 08:19
Re: Venus see--Venus do 241 Laird Scranton 26-Jun-08 12:19
Re: Venus see--Venus do 199 Laird Scranton 26-Jun-08 12:37
Re: Venus see--Venus do 192 Laird Scranton 26-Jun-08 12:41
Re: Venus see--Venus do 188 JonnyMcA 26-Jun-08 14:01
Re: Venus see--Venus do 205 NetWorkAngel 26-Jun-08 16:45
Re: Venus see--Venus do 188 JonnyMcA 26-Jun-08 12:54
Re: Venus see--Venus do 213 legionromanes 26-Jun-08 13:15
Re: Venus see--Venus do 226 drrayeye 26-Jun-08 18:07
Re: Venus see--Venus do 180 Laird Scranton 26-Jun-08 21:06
Re: Venus see--Venus do 230 JonnyMcA 26-Jun-08 21:38
Re: Venus see--Venus do 228 Laird Scranton 26-Jun-08 23:33
Re: Venus see--Venus do 203 Laird Scranton 27-Jun-08 02:16
Re: Venus see--Venus do 192 Laird Scranton 27-Jun-08 03:26
Re: Venus see--Venus do 163 Laird Scranton 27-Jun-08 03:28
Re: Venus see--Venus do 198 JonnyMcA 27-Jun-08 07:55
Re: Venus see--Venus do 160 Me 27-Jun-08 02:19
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 208 Laird Scranton 24-Jun-08 03:24
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 162 R and M 24-Jun-08 03:42
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 168 NetWorkAngel 24-Jun-08 14:55
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 204 JonnyMcA 24-Jun-08 15:41
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 223 legionromanes 24-Jun-08 15:42
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 200 R and M 24-Jun-08 03:39
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 261 Susan Doris 24-Jun-08 15:50
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 233 Laird Scranton 24-Jun-08 18:12
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 196 Laird Scranton 24-Jun-08 19:45
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 221 NetWorkAngel 24-Jun-08 19:47
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 209 Laird Scranton 24-Jun-08 20:05
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 205 JonnyMcA 24-Jun-08 20:12
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 149 JonnyMcA 24-Jun-08 20:13
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 159 NetWorkAngel 25-Jun-08 14:59
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 132 JonnyMcA 25-Jun-08 15:23
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 166 NetWorkAngel 25-Jun-08 15:31
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 133 Laird Scranton 24-Jun-08 19:51
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 185 JonnyMcA 24-Jun-08 20:19
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 190 The Kwuda 24-Jun-08 20:28
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 175 JonnyMcA 24-Jun-08 20:33
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 177 Me 25-Jun-08 02:02
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 197 Laird Scranton 25-Jun-08 02:42
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 214 Laird Scranton 25-Jun-08 03:24
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 187 legionromanes 25-Jun-08 12:38
Moderator Note 157 Hoppy 26-Jun-08 00:52
Re: Moderator Note 215 JonnyMcA 26-Jun-08 08:12
Re: Moderator Note 200 legionromanes 26-Jun-08 16:49
Re: Moderator Note 144 Hoppy 27-Jun-08 00:50
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 181 legionromanes 24-Jun-08 21:05
Laird, have you seen this? 184 mephisto 26-Jun-08 15:23
Re: Laird, have you seen this? 209 mephisto 26-Jun-08 16:02
Re: Laird, have you seen this? 175 legionromanes 26-Jun-08 17:24
Re: Laird, have you seen this? 190 mephisto 27-Jun-08 01:53
Re: Laird, have you seen this? 190 Laird Scranton 27-Jun-08 02:23
Re: Laird, have you seen this? 177 legionromanes 27-Jun-08 13:47
Re: Laird, have you seen this? 182 Laird Scranton 27-Jun-08 02:18
Re: Laird, have you seen this? 170 mephisto 27-Jun-08 02:23
Re: Laird, have you seen this? 219 Laird Scranton 27-Jun-08 03:14
Re: Laird, have you seen this? 166 mephisto 27-Jun-08 03:38
Re: Laird, have you seen this? 198 mephisto 27-Jun-08 05:46
Re: Laird, have you seen this? 181 legionromanes 27-Jun-08 13:52
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 178 Diomede 25-Nov-08 22:33
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 166 Joe Atlantis 28-Nov-08 05:51
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 167 Diomede 28-Nov-08 22:57
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 214 Joe Atlantis 12-Dec-08 13:38
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 176 Diomede 12-Dec-08 16:50
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 201 Joe Atlantis 12-Dec-08 23:33
Thread Closed 180 JonnyMcA 12-Dec-08 23:50


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