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The Strange Venus Resonance

Venus passes closer to the Earth than any other planet. Venus' sidereal rotation is 243.0187 earth days. The sidereal rotation is the length of time the planet spins as referenced to the distant stars. Venus and Pluto are the only planets that rotate retrogressively. The Venus sidereal year is 224.7 earth days. Notice that the sidereal day is longer than the year. The day night cycle (not the same as the sidereal day) is 116.8 earth days. The sun rises in the West and sets 58.4 days later in the East.

The Earth and Venus have a close approach every 583.9 days. The formula for calculating the approximate interval for closest approach of Venus is:

1 / PREL = 1 / PVENUS - 1 / PEARTH = 1 / 224.7 - 1 / 365.26 = 1 / 583.9

P is the period in earth days of the sidereal orbit. PREL is the synodic period. The synodic period we are looking for is the time between inferior conjunctions. Every 584 days the earth has traveled one full orbit plus 215 degrees. Meanwhile Venus has completed 2 full circuits plus 215 degrees (2.6 times). During those circuits it has not passed the earth. Venus has also rotated in a retrograde direction 2.4 times or 2 CW rotations plus 145 degrees. Venus has a remarkable alignment. The same side faces us at every inferior conjunction. Every fifth midnight, a point on the surface of Venus, is aligned toward the Earth at inferior conjunction.

Scientists say the Earth has no way of exerting any significant tidal torque on Venus. At inferior conjunction, the distance between the two planets is .27 AU or 41 million km. This is less than the closest distance that Mercury makes to the Sun. Earth and Venus each have a mass less than 1/300,000 of the sun's mass. We certainly do not experience tides from Venus. In fact most of us are not even aware that Venus is so close because the conjunction happens on the sunny side of the earth. How could this resonance have come into existence? Is this an accidental harmony or does it tell us something about the nature of the solar system? There are several ways to explain this strange synchronism.

1. The retrograde rotation and synchronicity is entirely a coincidence. Because of the elliptical orbits of Earth and Venus, any particular inferior conjunction can occur a few days from the mean. This results in a small discrepancy in the alignment on any particular conjunction. This small variation can be used by those who claim there is no real alignment.
ANSWER: The mean values are quite accurate despite the fact that the earth has an eliptical orbit. For example, on June 8, 2004 at 08:20 UTC, venus will pass across the sun at its maximum ingress. The longitude on Venus that points to the earth will be 334 .7 degrees and the angular size of Venus will be 57.8". Eight years later, Venus will again be in the same siderial location in the sky. Venus will transit the Sun on June 6, 20012 at 06:29 UTC. The longitude on Venus closest to the earth will be 337.8 degrees and the angular size will be the same. That is a three degree difference on the surface of a rotating planet far from us.

2. A collision caused Venus to rotate retrogressively. This would mean the resonance is a random event.
ANSWER: A planet has something called rotary inertia, or rigidity in space. The amount of force even from a large impact would not be enough to overcome the gyro inertia of a planet. Forces that can precess a planet almost 180 degrees must act over a longer period that an impact.

3. In the past Venus and Earth were synchronized by one or more close encounters. In a close encounter gravity could precess a planet. Precession is a torque which acts 90o in the direction of rotation. That means a torque in the horizontal axis will rotate the planet about the vertical axis. Precessing the spin axis 180 degrees is equivalent to changing the direction of rotation without reducing the rotational momentum of the planet.

- Laird

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A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 756 Laird Scranton 22-Jun-08 19:45
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 275 legionromanes 22-Jun-08 19:56
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 250 Laird Scranton 23-Jun-08 00:06
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 258 legionromanes 23-Jun-08 00:25
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 274 Laird Scranton 23-Jun-08 00:36
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 245 legionromanes 23-Jun-08 00:44
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 281 Laird Scranton 23-Jun-08 01:46
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 266 Laird Scranton 23-Jun-08 00:46
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 265 legionromanes 23-Jun-08 02:03
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 266 Laird Scranton 23-Jun-08 02:10
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 263 legionromanes 23-Jun-08 02:21
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 267 Laird Scranton 23-Jun-08 02:37
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 264 legionromanes 23-Jun-08 03:37
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 255 The Kwuda 23-Jun-08 03:54
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 249 Laird Scranton 23-Jun-08 03:55
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 251 The Kwuda 23-Jun-08 04:07
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 263 legionromanes 23-Jun-08 04:09
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 248 Laird Scranton 23-Jun-08 04:13
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 251 legionromanes 23-Jun-08 04:21
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 250 Laird Scranton 23-Jun-08 04:30
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 269 legionromanes 23-Jun-08 06:10
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 240 Laird Scranton 23-Jun-08 12:39
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 285 Laird Scranton 23-Jun-08 12:46
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 266 legionromanes 23-Jun-08 15:52
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 241 Laird Scranton 23-Jun-08 20:37
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 266 carolb 23-Jun-08 20:49
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 223 legionromanes 23-Jun-08 20:49
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 264 JonnyMcA 23-Jun-08 20:50
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 265 JonnyMcA 23-Jun-08 20:52
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 277 Laird Scranton 23-Jun-08 21:36
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 229 JonnyMcA 23-Jun-08 21:52
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 250 Diomede 25-Nov-08 21:33
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 227 JonnyMcA 25-Nov-08 21:55
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 276 Diomede 25-Nov-08 22:16
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 291 NetWorkAngel 26-Nov-08 17:25
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 253 JonnyMcA 26-Nov-08 18:50
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 278 NetWorkAngel 26-Nov-08 20:03
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 258 JonnyMcA 26-Nov-08 20:22
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 276 Gary Gilligan 26-Nov-08 21:11
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 272 JonnyMcA 26-Nov-08 21:44
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 237 Diomede 29-Nov-08 23:12
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 253 JonnyMcA 29-Nov-08 23:41
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 228 Diomede 30-Nov-08 21:16
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 257 Diomede 30-Nov-08 22:28
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 226 JonnyMcA 01-Dec-08 10:09
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 235 Diomede 01-Dec-08 20:32
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 245 JonnyMcA 01-Dec-08 22:50
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 254 Voyager 26-Nov-08 17:37
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 272 Diomede 27-Nov-08 21:42
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 217 JonnyMcA 27-Nov-08 21:59
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 222 Diomede 06-Dec-08 16:47
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 263 Nolondil 06-Dec-08 20:58
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 246 Diomede 06-Dec-08 23:13
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 261 Nolondil 07-Dec-08 19:39
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 267 Diomede 08-Dec-08 00:02
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 232 Voyager 08-Dec-08 02:49
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 272 Diomede 09-Dec-08 01:03
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 238 Nolondil 09-Dec-08 01:44
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 268 Susan Doris 09-Dec-08 07:08
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 281 Diomede 12-Dec-08 12:22
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 251 Susan Doris 12-Dec-08 14:40
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 266 Diomede 12-Dec-08 16:42
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 250 Voyager 28-Nov-08 05:20
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 252 Susan Doris 28-Nov-08 07:00
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 229 Diomede 06-Dec-08 23:28
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 225 Voyager 06-Dec-08 23:39
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 241 Diomede 07-Dec-08 00:19
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 252 Susan Doris 07-Dec-08 08:06
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 274 Susan Doris 07-Dec-08 07:41
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 269 Nolondil 07-Dec-08 19:42
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 300 Voyager 27-Nov-08 02:31
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 233 NetWorkAngel 27-Nov-08 15:19
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 279 JonnyMcA 27-Nov-08 15:32
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 262 legionromanes 28-Nov-08 15:10
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 249 Diomede 01-Dec-08 21:31
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 253 legionromanes 01-Dec-08 21:50
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 246 Laird Scranton 02-Dec-08 16:26
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 221 JonnyMcA 02-Dec-08 17:11
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 227 Susan Doris 02-Dec-08 18:06
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 267 Laird Scranton 02-Dec-08 19:48
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 239 Laird Scranton 02-Dec-08 20:42
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 261 NetWorkAngel 02-Dec-08 20:43
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 229 Diomede 03-Dec-08 01:10
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 238 Diomede 02-Dec-08 23:26
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 264 Voyager 03-Dec-08 01:03
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 258 Laird Scranton 03-Dec-08 15:45
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 261 degiem1 04-Dec-08 23:28
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 230 Laird Scranton 04-Dec-08 23:46
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 242 Voyager 05-Dec-08 00:10
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 248 Diomede 05-Dec-08 21:18
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 203 Voyager 05-Dec-08 23:08
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 233 Susan Doris 06-Dec-08 07:24
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 248 Diomede 06-Dec-08 20:29
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 194 Susan Doris 07-Dec-08 07:15
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 236 degiem1 05-Dec-08 00:19
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 233 Laird Scranton 05-Dec-08 00:58
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 211 degiem1 05-Dec-08 01:59
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 215 Laird Scranton 05-Dec-08 02:48
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 221 degiem1 05-Dec-08 19:15
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 212 Voyager 05-Dec-08 03:15
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 232 Laird Scranton 05-Dec-08 04:18
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 200 Laird Scranton 05-Dec-08 04:37
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 201 Diomede 06-Dec-08 22:06
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 209 Voyager 06-Dec-08 23:45
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 208 Diomede 07-Dec-08 00:02
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 215 legionromanes 05-Dec-08 04:07
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 180 Laird Scranton 05-Dec-08 21:37
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 188 Laird Scranton 05-Dec-08 22:28
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 209 Laird Scranton 05-Dec-08 22:57
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 201 Laird Scranton 06-Dec-08 00:18
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 186 Laird Scranton 06-Dec-08 00:22
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 213 ariston 06-Dec-08 00:26
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 182 ariston 05-Dec-08 23:18
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 237 Laird Scranton 03-Dec-08 19:41
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 215 Diomede 07-Dec-08 02:17
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 251 legionromanes 07-Dec-08 14:21
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 186 Voyager 07-Dec-08 18:06
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 210 Diomede 08-Dec-08 00:22
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 199 legionromanes 08-Dec-08 08:24
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 216 ariston 01-Dec-08 22:04
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 223 Voyager 28-Nov-08 05:23
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 262 Diomede 06-Dec-08 23:51
The "Worzel Ash" (Los Chocoyos Volcanic Ash) 750 Xebec 26-Jun-08 03:47
What does this mean? 270 drrayeye 26-Jun-08 06:19
Re: What does this mean? 223 legionromanes 26-Jun-08 14:53
Re: What does this mean? 232 drrayeye 26-Jun-08 16:59
Re: What does this mean? 197 legionromanes 26-Jun-08 17:23
Re: What does this mean? 263 drrayeye 26-Jun-08 17:55
Re: What does this mean? 234 legionromanes 26-Jun-08 18:40
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 248 mephisto 23-Jun-08 04:21
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 200 legionromanes 23-Jun-08 04:24
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 235 Laird Scranton 23-Jun-08 03:24
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 249 legionromanes 23-Jun-08 04:25
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 247 Laird Scranton 23-Jun-08 12:31
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 225 legionromanes 23-Jun-08 15:55
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 202 Laird Scranton 23-Jun-08 20:16
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 228 legionromanes 23-Jun-08 20:18
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 235 Houcad 23-Jun-08 04:46
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 229 legionromanes 23-Jun-08 06:17
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 225 Nolondil 24-Jun-08 03:10
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 239 Laird Scranton 24-Jun-08 03:13
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 233 JonnyMcA 24-Jun-08 07:18
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 235 Laird Scranton 23-Jun-08 12:37
What little I understand 234 drrayeye 23-Jun-08 09:48
Re: What little I understand 257 mephisto 24-Jun-08 14:03
Re: What little I understand 219 Susan Doris 24-Jun-08 15:45
Re: What little I understand 227 Susan Doris 24-Jun-08 17:29
Re: What little I understand 232 drrayeye 24-Jun-08 19:28
Re: What little I understand 231 Elizabeth Newton 25-Jun-08 05:00
Nice Comment 216 Ghia 25-Jun-08 13:38
Re: What little I understand 198 Susan Doris 25-Jun-08 07:36
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 240 Susan Doris 23-Jun-08 07:23
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 223 Susan Doris 23-Jun-08 07:52
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 214 JonnyMcA 23-Jun-08 10:28
Laird does not believe Velikovsky is correct 207 drrayeye 23-Jun-08 12:23
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 223 Laird Scranton 23-Jun-08 12:50
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 242 JonnyMcA 23-Jun-08 13:23
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 212 drrayeye 23-Jun-08 16:08
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 239 JonnyMcA 23-Jun-08 16:28
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 254 legionromanes 23-Jun-08 16:40
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 239 Susan Doris 23-Jun-08 17:01
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 245 JonnyMcA 23-Jun-08 17:14
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 255 drrayeye 23-Jun-08 17:02
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 245 legionromanes 23-Jun-08 17:13
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 219 NetWorkAngel 23-Jun-08 17:52
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 202 drrayeye 23-Jun-08 17:55
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 227 legionromanes 23-Jun-08 18:20
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 218 drrayeye 23-Jun-08 18:34
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 237 legionromanes 23-Jun-08 18:37
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 270 JonnyMcA 23-Jun-08 19:00
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 190 legionromanes 23-Jun-08 19:40
Laird Scranton 301 drrayeye 23-Jun-08 19:11
Re: Laird Scranton 229 legionromanes 23-Jun-08 19:41
Moderator Note: 217 Hoppy 24-Jun-08 22:11
Re: Moderator Note: 230 Cognito 24-Jun-08 22:35
Re: Moderator Note:Moderator response 206 Ghia 24-Jun-08 23:00
Re: Moderator Note: 181 Hoppy 24-Jun-08 23:05
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 277 Laird Scranton 23-Jun-08 20:14
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 220 legionromanes 23-Jun-08 20:28
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 228 NetWorkAngel 23-Jun-08 21:32
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 236 legionromanes 23-Jun-08 22:18
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 227 JonnyMcA 23-Jun-08 22:21
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 220 Laird Scranton 23-Jun-08 22:30
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 219 JonnyMcA 23-Jun-08 22:42
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 208 Laird Scranton 23-Jun-08 23:19
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 213 Drewski 23-Jun-08 23:51
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 258 Laird Scranton 24-Jun-08 01:26
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 246 legionromanes 24-Jun-08 01:55
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 196 Cognito 24-Jun-08 04:19
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 236 Laird Scranton 24-Jun-08 12:37
Possibility of venus as a comet. 219 JonnyMcA 24-Jun-08 13:22
Re: Possibility of venus as a comet. 225 legionromanes 24-Jun-08 14:18
Re: Possibility of venus as a comet. 228 JonnyMcA 24-Jun-08 14:44
Water telescope 239 Ghia 24-Jun-08 17:46
Re: Possibility of venus as a comet. 256 Johnee 24-Jun-08 15:42
Re: Possibility of venus as a comet. 238 JonnyMcA 24-Jun-08 16:05
Re: Possibility of venus as a comet. 226 Johnee 24-Jun-08 16:44
Re: Possibility of venus as a comet. 205 JonnyMcA 24-Jun-08 17:15
Re: Possibility of venus as a comet. 227 Johnee 24-Jun-08 19:13
Re: Possibility of venus as a comet. 241 JonnyMcA 24-Jun-08 19:28
Re: Possibility of venus as a comet. 277 Johnee 24-Jun-08 23:29
Re: Possibility of venus as a comet. 234 JonnyMcA 25-Jun-08 08:53
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 255 Cognito 24-Jun-08 18:17
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 233 legionromanes 24-Jun-08 18:46
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 233 NetWorkAngel 24-Jun-08 19:04
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 254 Cognito 24-Jun-08 19:34
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 214 NetWorkAngel 24-Jun-08 19:39
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 253 Cognito 24-Jun-08 19:50
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 230 JonnyMcA 24-Jun-08 20:07
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 210 Laird Scranton 24-Jun-08 19:34
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 259 Cognito 24-Jun-08 19:52
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 207 Laird Scranton 24-Jun-08 19:40
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 239 Cognito 24-Jun-08 20:01
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 232 Laird Scranton 24-Jun-08 20:08
Mod Note 227 JonnyMcA 24-Jun-08 20:11
Re: Mod Note 200 Laird Scranton 24-Jun-08 20:14
Re: Mod Note 221 JonnyMcA 24-Jun-08 20:20
Re: Mod Note 204 Hoppy 24-Jun-08 23:08
Re: Mod Note 206 Laird Scranton 24-Jun-08 23:19
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 213 Cognito 24-Jun-08 20:32
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 211 Laird Scranton 24-Jun-08 20:40
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 195 Cognito 24-Jun-08 21:07
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 232 Laird Scranton 24-Jun-08 21:38
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 235 Cognito 24-Jun-08 22:14
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 201 Laird Scranton 24-Jun-08 22:37
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 195 Laird Scranton 24-Jun-08 22:48
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 221 Cognito 24-Jun-08 23:03
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 245 Laird Scranton 24-Jun-08 23:29
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 254 Cognito 25-Jun-08 03:08
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 229 Laird Scranton 25-Jun-08 03:25
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 245 Laird Scranton 25-Jun-08 03:32
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 224 Laird Scranton 25-Jun-08 04:06
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 202 Laird Scranton 25-Jun-08 14:56
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 207 legionromanes 25-Jun-08 19:22
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 221 Laird Scranton 25-Jun-08 21:56
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 237 Laird Scranton 25-Jun-08 21:58
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 262 Laird Scranton 26-Jun-08 03:25
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 210 legionromanes 26-Jun-08 03:36
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 187 JonnyMcA 26-Jun-08 07:36
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 238 Laird Scranton 26-Jun-08 12:26
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 287 JonnyMcA 26-Jun-08 12:48
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 203 mephisto 26-Jun-08 14:01
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 236 JonnyMcA 26-Jun-08 14:12
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 250 Laird Scranton 26-Jun-08 15:30
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 248 Laird Scranton 26-Jun-08 16:35
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 228 Cognito 26-Jun-08 22:22
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 240 Laird Scranton 26-Jun-08 23:26
Moderator Note 243 Hoppy 25-Jun-08 01:52
Re: Moderator Note 226 Laird Scranton 25-Jun-08 02:36
Re: Moderator Note 195 Hoppy 25-Jun-08 22:49
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 244 Laird Scranton 24-Jun-08 20:34
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 242 legionromanes 24-Jun-08 20:56
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 212 Laird Scranton 24-Jun-08 21:03
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 206 legionromanes 24-Jun-08 21:12
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 247 Laird Scranton 24-Jun-08 01:29
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 202 legionromanes 24-Jun-08 01:56
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 172 Laird Scranton 24-Jun-08 03:16
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 194 Laird Scranton 24-Jun-08 03:37
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 221 JonnyMcA 24-Jun-08 07:13
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 187 JonnyMcA 24-Jun-08 08:13
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 234 Laird Scranton 24-Jun-08 12:44
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 196 Laird Scranton 24-Jun-08 12:58
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 215 Laird Scranton 26-Jun-08 03:39
Venus see--Venus do 252 drrayeye 26-Jun-08 08:19
Re: Venus see--Venus do 275 Laird Scranton 26-Jun-08 12:19
Re: Venus see--Venus do 242 Laird Scranton 26-Jun-08 12:37
Re: Venus see--Venus do 211 Laird Scranton 26-Jun-08 12:41
Re: Venus see--Venus do 207 JonnyMcA 26-Jun-08 14:01
Re: Venus see--Venus do 230 NetWorkAngel 26-Jun-08 16:45
Re: Venus see--Venus do 209 JonnyMcA 26-Jun-08 12:54
Re: Venus see--Venus do 236 legionromanes 26-Jun-08 13:15
Re: Venus see--Venus do 246 drrayeye 26-Jun-08 18:07
Re: Venus see--Venus do 202 Laird Scranton 26-Jun-08 21:06
Re: Venus see--Venus do 254 JonnyMcA 26-Jun-08 21:38
Re: Venus see--Venus do 254 Laird Scranton 26-Jun-08 23:33
Re: Venus see--Venus do 218 Laird Scranton 27-Jun-08 02:16
Re: Venus see--Venus do 217 Laird Scranton 27-Jun-08 03:26
Re: Venus see--Venus do 189 Laird Scranton 27-Jun-08 03:28
Re: Venus see--Venus do 214 JonnyMcA 27-Jun-08 07:55
Re: Venus see--Venus do 178 Me 27-Jun-08 02:19
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 252 Laird Scranton 24-Jun-08 03:24
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 180 R and M 24-Jun-08 03:42
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 205 NetWorkAngel 24-Jun-08 14:55
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 220 JonnyMcA 24-Jun-08 15:41
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 249 legionromanes 24-Jun-08 15:42
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 217 R and M 24-Jun-08 03:39
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 279 Susan Doris 24-Jun-08 15:50
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 268 Laird Scranton 24-Jun-08 18:12
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 214 Laird Scranton 24-Jun-08 19:45
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 238 NetWorkAngel 24-Jun-08 19:47
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 229 Laird Scranton 24-Jun-08 20:05
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 227 JonnyMcA 24-Jun-08 20:12
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 162 JonnyMcA 24-Jun-08 20:13
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 195 NetWorkAngel 25-Jun-08 14:59
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 149 JonnyMcA 25-Jun-08 15:23
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 179 NetWorkAngel 25-Jun-08 15:31
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 167 Laird Scranton 24-Jun-08 19:51
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 201 JonnyMcA 24-Jun-08 20:19
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 206 The Kwuda 24-Jun-08 20:28
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 216 JonnyMcA 24-Jun-08 20:33
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 207 Me 25-Jun-08 02:02
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 217 Laird Scranton 25-Jun-08 02:42
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 234 Laird Scranton 25-Jun-08 03:24
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 230 legionromanes 25-Jun-08 12:38
Moderator Note 176 Hoppy 26-Jun-08 00:52
Re: Moderator Note 255 JonnyMcA 26-Jun-08 08:12
Re: Moderator Note 218 legionromanes 26-Jun-08 16:49
Re: Moderator Note 165 Hoppy 27-Jun-08 00:50
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 201 legionromanes 24-Jun-08 21:05
Laird, have you seen this? 200 mephisto 26-Jun-08 15:23
Re: Laird, have you seen this? 231 mephisto 26-Jun-08 16:02
Re: Laird, have you seen this? 200 legionromanes 26-Jun-08 17:24
Re: Laird, have you seen this? 224 mephisto 27-Jun-08 01:53
Re: Laird, have you seen this? 209 Laird Scranton 27-Jun-08 02:23
Re: Laird, have you seen this? 199 legionromanes 27-Jun-08 13:47
Re: Laird, have you seen this? 200 Laird Scranton 27-Jun-08 02:18
Re: Laird, have you seen this? 187 mephisto 27-Jun-08 02:23
Re: Laird, have you seen this? 237 Laird Scranton 27-Jun-08 03:14
Re: Laird, have you seen this? 206 mephisto 27-Jun-08 03:38
Re: Laird, have you seen this? 214 mephisto 27-Jun-08 05:46
Re: Laird, have you seen this? 200 legionromanes 27-Jun-08 13:52
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 230 Diomede 25-Nov-08 22:33
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 179 Joe Atlantis 28-Nov-08 05:51
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 213 Diomede 28-Nov-08 22:57
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 231 Joe Atlantis 12-Dec-08 13:38
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 204 Diomede 12-Dec-08 16:50
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 219 Joe Atlantis 12-Dec-08 23:33
Thread Closed 212 JonnyMcA 12-Dec-08 23:50


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