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The Strange Venus Resonance

Venus passes closer to the Earth than any other planet. Venus' sidereal rotation is 243.0187 earth days. The sidereal rotation is the length of time the planet spins as referenced to the distant stars. Venus and Pluto are the only planets that rotate retrogressively. The Venus sidereal year is 224.7 earth days. Notice that the sidereal day is longer than the year. The day night cycle (not the same as the sidereal day) is 116.8 earth days. The sun rises in the West and sets 58.4 days later in the East.

The Earth and Venus have a close approach every 583.9 days. The formula for calculating the approximate interval for closest approach of Venus is:

1 / PREL = 1 / PVENUS - 1 / PEARTH = 1 / 224.7 - 1 / 365.26 = 1 / 583.9

P is the period in earth days of the sidereal orbit. PREL is the synodic period. The synodic period we are looking for is the time between inferior conjunctions. Every 584 days the earth has traveled one full orbit plus 215 degrees. Meanwhile Venus has completed 2 full circuits plus 215 degrees (2.6 times). During those circuits it has not passed the earth. Venus has also rotated in a retrograde direction 2.4 times or 2 CW rotations plus 145 degrees. Venus has a remarkable alignment. The same side faces us at every inferior conjunction. Every fifth midnight, a point on the surface of Venus, is aligned toward the Earth at inferior conjunction.

Scientists say the Earth has no way of exerting any significant tidal torque on Venus. At inferior conjunction, the distance between the two planets is .27 AU or 41 million km. This is less than the closest distance that Mercury makes to the Sun. Earth and Venus each have a mass less than 1/300,000 of the sun's mass. We certainly do not experience tides from Venus. In fact most of us are not even aware that Venus is so close because the conjunction happens on the sunny side of the earth. How could this resonance have come into existence? Is this an accidental harmony or does it tell us something about the nature of the solar system? There are several ways to explain this strange synchronism.

1. The retrograde rotation and synchronicity is entirely a coincidence. Because of the elliptical orbits of Earth and Venus, any particular inferior conjunction can occur a few days from the mean. This results in a small discrepancy in the alignment on any particular conjunction. This small variation can be used by those who claim there is no real alignment.
ANSWER: The mean values are quite accurate despite the fact that the earth has an eliptical orbit. For example, on June 8, 2004 at 08:20 UTC, venus will pass across the sun at its maximum ingress. The longitude on Venus that points to the earth will be 334 .7 degrees and the angular size of Venus will be 57.8". Eight years later, Venus will again be in the same siderial location in the sky. Venus will transit the Sun on June 6, 20012 at 06:29 UTC. The longitude on Venus closest to the earth will be 337.8 degrees and the angular size will be the same. That is a three degree difference on the surface of a rotating planet far from us.

2. A collision caused Venus to rotate retrogressively. This would mean the resonance is a random event.
ANSWER: A planet has something called rotary inertia, or rigidity in space. The amount of force even from a large impact would not be enough to overcome the gyro inertia of a planet. Forces that can precess a planet almost 180 degrees must act over a longer period that an impact.

3. In the past Venus and Earth were synchronized by one or more close encounters. In a close encounter gravity could precess a planet. Precession is a torque which acts 90o in the direction of rotation. That means a torque in the horizontal axis will rotate the planet about the vertical axis. Precessing the spin axis 180 degrees is equivalent to changing the direction of rotation without reducing the rotational momentum of the planet.

- Laird

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A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 890 Laird Scranton 22-Jun-08 19:45
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 337 legionromanes 22-Jun-08 19:56
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 311 Laird Scranton 23-Jun-08 00:06
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 314 legionromanes 23-Jun-08 00:25
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 328 Laird Scranton 23-Jun-08 00:36
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 301 legionromanes 23-Jun-08 00:44
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 338 Laird Scranton 23-Jun-08 01:46
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 313 Laird Scranton 23-Jun-08 00:46
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 327 legionromanes 23-Jun-08 02:03
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 321 Laird Scranton 23-Jun-08 02:10
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 315 legionromanes 23-Jun-08 02:21
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 329 Laird Scranton 23-Jun-08 02:37
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 315 legionromanes 23-Jun-08 03:37
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 316 The Kwuda 23-Jun-08 03:54
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 300 Laird Scranton 23-Jun-08 03:55
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 435 The Kwuda 23-Jun-08 04:07
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 319 legionromanes 23-Jun-08 04:09
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 308 Laird Scranton 23-Jun-08 04:13
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 301 legionromanes 23-Jun-08 04:21
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 308 Laird Scranton 23-Jun-08 04:30
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 326 legionromanes 23-Jun-08 06:10
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 292 Laird Scranton 23-Jun-08 12:39
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 336 Laird Scranton 23-Jun-08 12:46
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 352 legionromanes 23-Jun-08 15:52
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 291 Laird Scranton 23-Jun-08 20:37
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 319 carolb 23-Jun-08 20:49
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 274 legionromanes 23-Jun-08 20:49
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 329 JonnyMcA 23-Jun-08 20:50
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 340 JonnyMcA 23-Jun-08 20:52
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 341 Laird Scranton 23-Jun-08 21:36
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 283 JonnyMcA 23-Jun-08 21:52
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 305 Diomede 25-Nov-08 21:33
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 277 JonnyMcA 25-Nov-08 21:55
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 340 Diomede 25-Nov-08 22:16
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 349 NetWorkAngel 26-Nov-08 17:25
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 307 JonnyMcA 26-Nov-08 18:50
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 339 NetWorkAngel 26-Nov-08 20:03
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 308 JonnyMcA 26-Nov-08 20:22
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 340 Gary Gilligan 26-Nov-08 21:11
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 329 JonnyMcA 26-Nov-08 21:44
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 299 Diomede 29-Nov-08 23:12
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 319 JonnyMcA 29-Nov-08 23:41
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 274 Diomede 30-Nov-08 21:16
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 311 Diomede 30-Nov-08 22:28
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 291 JonnyMcA 01-Dec-08 10:09
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 289 Diomede 01-Dec-08 20:32
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 297 JonnyMcA 01-Dec-08 22:50
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 322 Voyager 26-Nov-08 17:37
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 330 Diomede 27-Nov-08 21:42
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 269 JonnyMcA 27-Nov-08 21:59
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 283 Diomede 06-Dec-08 16:47
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 320 Nolondil 06-Dec-08 20:58
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 305 Diomede 06-Dec-08 23:13
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 318 Nolondil 07-Dec-08 19:39
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 333 Diomede 08-Dec-08 00:02
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 287 Voyager 08-Dec-08 02:49
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 330 Diomede 09-Dec-08 01:03
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 301 Nolondil 09-Dec-08 01:44
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 318 Susan Doris 09-Dec-08 07:08
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 346 Diomede 12-Dec-08 12:22
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 304 Susan Doris 12-Dec-08 14:40
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 328 Diomede 12-Dec-08 16:42
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 310 Voyager 28-Nov-08 05:20
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 314 Susan Doris 28-Nov-08 07:00
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 291 Diomede 06-Dec-08 23:28
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 286 Voyager 06-Dec-08 23:39
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 302 Diomede 07-Dec-08 00:19
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 313 Susan Doris 07-Dec-08 08:06
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 322 Susan Doris 07-Dec-08 07:41
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 332 Nolondil 07-Dec-08 19:42
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 357 Voyager 27-Nov-08 02:31
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 289 NetWorkAngel 27-Nov-08 15:19
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 328 JonnyMcA 27-Nov-08 15:32
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 316 legionromanes 28-Nov-08 15:10
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 304 Diomede 01-Dec-08 21:31
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 309 legionromanes 01-Dec-08 21:50
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 311 Laird Scranton 02-Dec-08 16:26
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 284 JonnyMcA 02-Dec-08 17:11
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 288 Susan Doris 02-Dec-08 18:06
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 337 Laird Scranton 02-Dec-08 19:48
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 295 Laird Scranton 02-Dec-08 20:42
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 320 NetWorkAngel 02-Dec-08 20:43
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 282 Diomede 03-Dec-08 01:10
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 304 Diomede 02-Dec-08 23:26
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 321 Voyager 03-Dec-08 01:03
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 321 Laird Scranton 03-Dec-08 15:45
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 310 degiem1 04-Dec-08 23:28
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 279 Laird Scranton 04-Dec-08 23:46
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 294 Voyager 05-Dec-08 00:10
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 301 Diomede 05-Dec-08 21:18
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 265 Voyager 05-Dec-08 23:08
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 286 Susan Doris 06-Dec-08 07:24
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 298 Diomede 06-Dec-08 20:29
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 251 Susan Doris 07-Dec-08 07:15
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 284 degiem1 05-Dec-08 00:19
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 282 Laird Scranton 05-Dec-08 00:58
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 267 degiem1 05-Dec-08 01:59
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 296 Laird Scranton 05-Dec-08 02:48
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 272 degiem1 05-Dec-08 19:15
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 265 Voyager 05-Dec-08 03:15
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 283 Laird Scranton 05-Dec-08 04:18
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 256 Laird Scranton 05-Dec-08 04:37
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 257 Diomede 06-Dec-08 22:06
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 260 Voyager 06-Dec-08 23:45
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 257 Diomede 07-Dec-08 00:02
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 267 legionromanes 05-Dec-08 04:07
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 246 Laird Scranton 05-Dec-08 21:37
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 240 Laird Scranton 05-Dec-08 22:28
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 267 Laird Scranton 05-Dec-08 22:57
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 255 Laird Scranton 06-Dec-08 00:18
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 237 Laird Scranton 06-Dec-08 00:22
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 261 ariston 06-Dec-08 00:26
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 232 ariston 05-Dec-08 23:18
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 290 Laird Scranton 03-Dec-08 19:41
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 277 Diomede 07-Dec-08 02:17
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 298 legionromanes 07-Dec-08 14:21
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 235 Voyager 07-Dec-08 18:06
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 288 Diomede 08-Dec-08 00:22
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 255 legionromanes 08-Dec-08 08:24
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 298 ariston 01-Dec-08 22:04
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 275 Voyager 28-Nov-08 05:23
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 323 Diomede 06-Dec-08 23:51
The "Worzel Ash" (Los Chocoyos Volcanic Ash) 945 Xebec 26-Jun-08 03:47
What does this mean? 337 drrayeye 26-Jun-08 06:19
Re: What does this mean? 266 legionromanes 26-Jun-08 14:53
Re: What does this mean? 289 drrayeye 26-Jun-08 16:59
Re: What does this mean? 251 legionromanes 26-Jun-08 17:23
Re: What does this mean? 324 drrayeye 26-Jun-08 17:55
Re: What does this mean? 279 legionromanes 26-Jun-08 18:40
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 304 mephisto 23-Jun-08 04:21
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 250 legionromanes 23-Jun-08 04:24
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 284 Laird Scranton 23-Jun-08 03:24
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 310 legionromanes 23-Jun-08 04:25
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 292 Laird Scranton 23-Jun-08 12:31
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 282 legionromanes 23-Jun-08 15:55
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 262 Laird Scranton 23-Jun-08 20:16
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 281 legionromanes 23-Jun-08 20:18
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 291 Houcad 23-Jun-08 04:46
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 286 legionromanes 23-Jun-08 06:17
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 281 Nolondil 24-Jun-08 03:10
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 288 Laird Scranton 24-Jun-08 03:13
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 288 JonnyMcA 24-Jun-08 07:18
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 283 Laird Scranton 23-Jun-08 12:37
What little I understand 295 drrayeye 23-Jun-08 09:48
Re: What little I understand 309 mephisto 24-Jun-08 14:03
Re: What little I understand 277 Susan Doris 24-Jun-08 15:45
Re: What little I understand 278 Susan Doris 24-Jun-08 17:29
Re: What little I understand 289 drrayeye 24-Jun-08 19:28
Re: What little I understand 288 Elizabeth Newton 25-Jun-08 05:00
Nice Comment 275 Ghia 25-Jun-08 13:38
Re: What little I understand 259 Susan Doris 25-Jun-08 07:36
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 290 Susan Doris 23-Jun-08 07:23
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 277 Susan Doris 23-Jun-08 07:52
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 295 JonnyMcA 23-Jun-08 10:28
Laird does not believe Velikovsky is correct 272 drrayeye 23-Jun-08 12:23
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 278 Laird Scranton 23-Jun-08 12:50
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 302 JonnyMcA 23-Jun-08 13:23
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 274 drrayeye 23-Jun-08 16:08
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 296 JonnyMcA 23-Jun-08 16:28
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 308 legionromanes 23-Jun-08 16:40
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 292 Susan Doris 23-Jun-08 17:01
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 303 JonnyMcA 23-Jun-08 17:14
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 314 drrayeye 23-Jun-08 17:02
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 292 legionromanes 23-Jun-08 17:13
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 276 NetWorkAngel 23-Jun-08 17:52
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 293 drrayeye 23-Jun-08 17:55
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 281 legionromanes 23-Jun-08 18:20
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 283 drrayeye 23-Jun-08 18:34
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 313 legionromanes 23-Jun-08 18:37
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 354 JonnyMcA 23-Jun-08 19:00
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 243 legionromanes 23-Jun-08 19:40
Laird Scranton 365 drrayeye 23-Jun-08 19:11
Re: Laird Scranton 284 legionromanes 23-Jun-08 19:41
Moderator Note: 275 Hoppy 24-Jun-08 22:11
Re: Moderator Note: 305 Cognito 24-Jun-08 22:35
Re: Moderator Note:Moderator response 257 Ghia 24-Jun-08 23:00
Re: Moderator Note: 236 Hoppy 24-Jun-08 23:05
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 338 Laird Scranton 23-Jun-08 20:14
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 270 legionromanes 23-Jun-08 20:28
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 283 NetWorkAngel 23-Jun-08 21:32
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 288 legionromanes 23-Jun-08 22:18
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 286 JonnyMcA 23-Jun-08 22:21
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 276 Laird Scranton 23-Jun-08 22:30
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 281 JonnyMcA 23-Jun-08 22:42
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 268 Laird Scranton 23-Jun-08 23:19
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 281 Drewski 23-Jun-08 23:51
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 309 Laird Scranton 24-Jun-08 01:26
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 303 legionromanes 24-Jun-08 01:55
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 246 Cognito 24-Jun-08 04:19
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 284 Laird Scranton 24-Jun-08 12:37
Possibility of venus as a comet. 267 JonnyMcA 24-Jun-08 13:22
Re: Possibility of venus as a comet. 282 legionromanes 24-Jun-08 14:18
Re: Possibility of venus as a comet. 284 JonnyMcA 24-Jun-08 14:44
Water telescope 306 Ghia 24-Jun-08 17:46
Re: Possibility of venus as a comet. 305 Johnee 24-Jun-08 15:42
Re: Possibility of venus as a comet. 291 JonnyMcA 24-Jun-08 16:05
Re: Possibility of venus as a comet. 279 Johnee 24-Jun-08 16:44
Re: Possibility of venus as a comet. 258 JonnyMcA 24-Jun-08 17:15
Re: Possibility of venus as a comet. 276 Johnee 24-Jun-08 19:13
Re: Possibility of venus as a comet. 291 JonnyMcA 24-Jun-08 19:28
Re: Possibility of venus as a comet. 347 Johnee 24-Jun-08 23:29
Re: Possibility of venus as a comet. 286 JonnyMcA 25-Jun-08 08:53
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 357 Cognito 24-Jun-08 18:17
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 286 legionromanes 24-Jun-08 18:46
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 279 NetWorkAngel 24-Jun-08 19:04
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 323 Cognito 24-Jun-08 19:34
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 276 NetWorkAngel 24-Jun-08 19:39
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 319 Cognito 24-Jun-08 19:50
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 286 JonnyMcA 24-Jun-08 20:07
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 256 Laird Scranton 24-Jun-08 19:34
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 313 Cognito 24-Jun-08 19:52
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 261 Laird Scranton 24-Jun-08 19:40
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 302 Cognito 24-Jun-08 20:01
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 297 Laird Scranton 24-Jun-08 20:08
Mod Note 278 JonnyMcA 24-Jun-08 20:11
Re: Mod Note 263 Laird Scranton 24-Jun-08 20:14
Re: Mod Note 267 JonnyMcA 24-Jun-08 20:20
Re: Mod Note 254 Hoppy 24-Jun-08 23:08
Re: Mod Note 264 Laird Scranton 24-Jun-08 23:19
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 266 Cognito 24-Jun-08 20:32
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 267 Laird Scranton 24-Jun-08 20:40
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 246 Cognito 24-Jun-08 21:07
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 289 Laird Scranton 24-Jun-08 21:38
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 292 Cognito 24-Jun-08 22:14
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 254 Laird Scranton 24-Jun-08 22:37
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 245 Laird Scranton 24-Jun-08 22:48
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 276 Cognito 24-Jun-08 23:03
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 295 Laird Scranton 24-Jun-08 23:29
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 312 Cognito 25-Jun-08 03:08
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 285 Laird Scranton 25-Jun-08 03:25
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 303 Laird Scranton 25-Jun-08 03:32
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 282 Laird Scranton 25-Jun-08 04:06
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 258 Laird Scranton 25-Jun-08 14:56
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 254 legionromanes 25-Jun-08 19:22
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 276 Laird Scranton 25-Jun-08 21:56
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 328 Laird Scranton 25-Jun-08 21:58
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 314 Laird Scranton 26-Jun-08 03:25
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 256 legionromanes 26-Jun-08 03:36
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 238 JonnyMcA 26-Jun-08 07:36
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 285 Laird Scranton 26-Jun-08 12:26
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 369 JonnyMcA 26-Jun-08 12:48
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 268 mephisto 26-Jun-08 14:01
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 289 JonnyMcA 26-Jun-08 14:12
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 312 Laird Scranton 26-Jun-08 15:30
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 297 Laird Scranton 26-Jun-08 16:35
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 281 Cognito 26-Jun-08 22:22
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 294 Laird Scranton 26-Jun-08 23:26
Moderator Note 297 Hoppy 25-Jun-08 01:52
Re: Moderator Note 276 Laird Scranton 25-Jun-08 02:36
Re: Moderator Note 246 Hoppy 25-Jun-08 22:49
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 304 Laird Scranton 24-Jun-08 20:34
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 299 legionromanes 24-Jun-08 20:56
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 271 Laird Scranton 24-Jun-08 21:03
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 256 legionromanes 24-Jun-08 21:12
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 300 Laird Scranton 24-Jun-08 01:29
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 256 legionromanes 24-Jun-08 01:56
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 217 Laird Scranton 24-Jun-08 03:16
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 239 Laird Scranton 24-Jun-08 03:37
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 292 JonnyMcA 24-Jun-08 07:13
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 241 JonnyMcA 24-Jun-08 08:13
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 278 Laird Scranton 24-Jun-08 12:44
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 280 Laird Scranton 24-Jun-08 12:58
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 268 Laird Scranton 26-Jun-08 03:39
Venus see--Venus do 313 drrayeye 26-Jun-08 08:19
Re: Venus see--Venus do 326 Laird Scranton 26-Jun-08 12:19
Re: Venus see--Venus do 290 Laird Scranton 26-Jun-08 12:37
Re: Venus see--Venus do 257 Laird Scranton 26-Jun-08 12:41
Re: Venus see--Venus do 250 JonnyMcA 26-Jun-08 14:01
Re: Venus see--Venus do 292 NetWorkAngel 26-Jun-08 16:45
Re: Venus see--Venus do 270 JonnyMcA 26-Jun-08 12:54
Re: Venus see--Venus do 295 legionromanes 26-Jun-08 13:15
Re: Venus see--Venus do 299 drrayeye 26-Jun-08 18:07
Re: Venus see--Venus do 256 Laird Scranton 26-Jun-08 21:06
Re: Venus see--Venus do 308 JonnyMcA 26-Jun-08 21:38
Re: Venus see--Venus do 306 Laird Scranton 26-Jun-08 23:33
Re: Venus see--Venus do 272 Laird Scranton 27-Jun-08 02:16
Re: Venus see--Venus do 273 Laird Scranton 27-Jun-08 03:26
Re: Venus see--Venus do 249 Laird Scranton 27-Jun-08 03:28
Re: Venus see--Venus do 263 JonnyMcA 27-Jun-08 07:55
Re: Venus see--Venus do 227 Me 27-Jun-08 02:19
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 314 Laird Scranton 24-Jun-08 03:24
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 223 R and M 24-Jun-08 03:42
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 255 NetWorkAngel 24-Jun-08 14:55
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 270 JonnyMcA 24-Jun-08 15:41
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 336 legionromanes 24-Jun-08 15:42
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 272 R and M 24-Jun-08 03:39
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 331 Susan Doris 24-Jun-08 15:50
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 322 Laird Scranton 24-Jun-08 18:12
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 266 Laird Scranton 24-Jun-08 19:45
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 298 NetWorkAngel 24-Jun-08 19:47
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 282 Laird Scranton 24-Jun-08 20:05
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 282 JonnyMcA 24-Jun-08 20:12
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 214 JonnyMcA 24-Jun-08 20:13
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 253 NetWorkAngel 25-Jun-08 14:59
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 197 JonnyMcA 25-Jun-08 15:23
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 241 NetWorkAngel 25-Jun-08 15:31
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 216 Laird Scranton 24-Jun-08 19:51
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 244 JonnyMcA 24-Jun-08 20:19
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 253 The Kwuda 24-Jun-08 20:28
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 265 JonnyMcA 24-Jun-08 20:33
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 268 Me 25-Jun-08 02:02
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 276 Laird Scranton 25-Jun-08 02:42
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 327 Laird Scranton 25-Jun-08 03:24
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 288 legionromanes 25-Jun-08 12:38
Moderator Note 261 Hoppy 26-Jun-08 00:52
Re: Moderator Note 298 JonnyMcA 26-Jun-08 08:12
Re: Moderator Note 262 legionromanes 26-Jun-08 16:49
Re: Moderator Note 219 Hoppy 27-Jun-08 00:50
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 274 legionromanes 24-Jun-08 21:05
Laird, have you seen this? 253 mephisto 26-Jun-08 15:23
Re: Laird, have you seen this? 285 mephisto 26-Jun-08 16:02
Re: Laird, have you seen this? 254 legionromanes 26-Jun-08 17:24
Re: Laird, have you seen this? 280 mephisto 27-Jun-08 01:53
Re: Laird, have you seen this? 261 Laird Scranton 27-Jun-08 02:23
Re: Laird, have you seen this? 261 legionromanes 27-Jun-08 13:47
Re: Laird, have you seen this? 250 Laird Scranton 27-Jun-08 02:18
Re: Laird, have you seen this? 237 mephisto 27-Jun-08 02:23
Re: Laird, have you seen this? 291 Laird Scranton 27-Jun-08 03:14
Re: Laird, have you seen this? 261 mephisto 27-Jun-08 03:38
Re: Laird, have you seen this? 266 mephisto 27-Jun-08 05:46
Re: Laird, have you seen this? 249 legionromanes 27-Jun-08 13:52
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 281 Diomede 25-Nov-08 22:33
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 238 Joe Atlantis 28-Nov-08 05:51
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 272 Diomede 28-Nov-08 22:57
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 290 Joe Atlantis 12-Dec-08 13:38
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 262 Diomede 12-Dec-08 16:50
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 276 Joe Atlantis 12-Dec-08 23:33
Thread Closed 271 JonnyMcA 12-Dec-08 23:50


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