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The Strange Venus Resonance

Venus passes closer to the Earth than any other planet. Venus' sidereal rotation is 243.0187 earth days. The sidereal rotation is the length of time the planet spins as referenced to the distant stars. Venus and Pluto are the only planets that rotate retrogressively. The Venus sidereal year is 224.7 earth days. Notice that the sidereal day is longer than the year. The day night cycle (not the same as the sidereal day) is 116.8 earth days. The sun rises in the West and sets 58.4 days later in the East.

The Earth and Venus have a close approach every 583.9 days. The formula for calculating the approximate interval for closest approach of Venus is:

1 / PREL = 1 / PVENUS - 1 / PEARTH = 1 / 224.7 - 1 / 365.26 = 1 / 583.9

P is the period in earth days of the sidereal orbit. PREL is the synodic period. The synodic period we are looking for is the time between inferior conjunctions. Every 584 days the earth has traveled one full orbit plus 215 degrees. Meanwhile Venus has completed 2 full circuits plus 215 degrees (2.6 times). During those circuits it has not passed the earth. Venus has also rotated in a retrograde direction 2.4 times or 2 CW rotations plus 145 degrees. Venus has a remarkable alignment. The same side faces us at every inferior conjunction. Every fifth midnight, a point on the surface of Venus, is aligned toward the Earth at inferior conjunction.

Scientists say the Earth has no way of exerting any significant tidal torque on Venus. At inferior conjunction, the distance between the two planets is .27 AU or 41 million km. This is less than the closest distance that Mercury makes to the Sun. Earth and Venus each have a mass less than 1/300,000 of the sun's mass. We certainly do not experience tides from Venus. In fact most of us are not even aware that Venus is so close because the conjunction happens on the sunny side of the earth. How could this resonance have come into existence? Is this an accidental harmony or does it tell us something about the nature of the solar system? There are several ways to explain this strange synchronism.

1. The retrograde rotation and synchronicity is entirely a coincidence. Because of the elliptical orbits of Earth and Venus, any particular inferior conjunction can occur a few days from the mean. This results in a small discrepancy in the alignment on any particular conjunction. This small variation can be used by those who claim there is no real alignment.
ANSWER: The mean values are quite accurate despite the fact that the earth has an eliptical orbit. For example, on June 8, 2004 at 08:20 UTC, venus will pass across the sun at its maximum ingress. The longitude on Venus that points to the earth will be 334 .7 degrees and the angular size of Venus will be 57.8". Eight years later, Venus will again be in the same siderial location in the sky. Venus will transit the Sun on June 6, 20012 at 06:29 UTC. The longitude on Venus closest to the earth will be 337.8 degrees and the angular size will be the same. That is a three degree difference on the surface of a rotating planet far from us.

2. A collision caused Venus to rotate retrogressively. This would mean the resonance is a random event.
ANSWER: A planet has something called rotary inertia, or rigidity in space. The amount of force even from a large impact would not be enough to overcome the gyro inertia of a planet. Forces that can precess a planet almost 180 degrees must act over a longer period that an impact.

3. In the past Venus and Earth were synchronized by one or more close encounters. In a close encounter gravity could precess a planet. Precession is a torque which acts 90o in the direction of rotation. That means a torque in the horizontal axis will rotate the planet about the vertical axis. Precessing the spin axis 180 degrees is equivalent to changing the direction of rotation without reducing the rotational momentum of the planet.

- Laird

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A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 599 Laird Scranton 22-Jun-08 19:45
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 197 legionromanes 22-Jun-08 19:56
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 178 Laird Scranton 23-Jun-08 00:06
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 186 legionromanes 23-Jun-08 00:25
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 211 Laird Scranton 23-Jun-08 00:36
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 172 legionromanes 23-Jun-08 00:44
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 199 Laird Scranton 23-Jun-08 01:46
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 197 Laird Scranton 23-Jun-08 00:46
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 186 legionromanes 23-Jun-08 02:03
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 206 Laird Scranton 23-Jun-08 02:10
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 196 legionromanes 23-Jun-08 02:21
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 185 Laird Scranton 23-Jun-08 02:37
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 185 legionromanes 23-Jun-08 03:37
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 187 The Kwuda 23-Jun-08 03:54
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 175 Laird Scranton 23-Jun-08 03:55
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 181 The Kwuda 23-Jun-08 04:07
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 191 legionromanes 23-Jun-08 04:09
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 151 Laird Scranton 23-Jun-08 04:13
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 174 legionromanes 23-Jun-08 04:21
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 172 Laird Scranton 23-Jun-08 04:30
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 191 legionromanes 23-Jun-08 06:10
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 167 Laird Scranton 23-Jun-08 12:39
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 186 Laird Scranton 23-Jun-08 12:46
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 176 legionromanes 23-Jun-08 15:52
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 151 Laird Scranton 23-Jun-08 20:37
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 179 carolb 23-Jun-08 20:49
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 147 legionromanes 23-Jun-08 20:49
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 199 JonnyMcA 23-Jun-08 20:50
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 172 JonnyMcA 23-Jun-08 20:52
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 187 Laird Scranton 23-Jun-08 21:36
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 160 JonnyMcA 23-Jun-08 21:52
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 180 Diomede 25-Nov-08 21:33
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 165 JonnyMcA 25-Nov-08 21:55
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 208 Diomede 25-Nov-08 22:16
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 193 NetWorkAngel 26-Nov-08 17:25
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 172 JonnyMcA 26-Nov-08 18:50
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 210 NetWorkAngel 26-Nov-08 20:03
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 193 JonnyMcA 26-Nov-08 20:22
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 196 Gary Gilligan 26-Nov-08 21:11
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 194 JonnyMcA 26-Nov-08 21:44
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 150 Diomede 29-Nov-08 23:12
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 168 JonnyMcA 29-Nov-08 23:41
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 163 Diomede 30-Nov-08 21:16
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 189 Diomede 30-Nov-08 22:28
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 154 JonnyMcA 01-Dec-08 10:09
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 158 Diomede 01-Dec-08 20:32
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 156 JonnyMcA 01-Dec-08 22:50
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 187 Voyager 26-Nov-08 17:37
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 198 Diomede 27-Nov-08 21:42
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 157 JonnyMcA 27-Nov-08 21:59
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 150 Diomede 06-Dec-08 16:47
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 178 Nolondil 06-Dec-08 20:58
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 179 Diomede 06-Dec-08 23:13
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 173 Nolondil 07-Dec-08 19:39
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 178 Diomede 08-Dec-08 00:02
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 160 Voyager 08-Dec-08 02:49
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 199 Diomede 09-Dec-08 01:03
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 159 Nolondil 09-Dec-08 01:44
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 192 Susan Doris 09-Dec-08 07:08
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 187 Diomede 12-Dec-08 12:22
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 183 Susan Doris 12-Dec-08 14:40
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 197 Diomede 12-Dec-08 16:42
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 177 Voyager 28-Nov-08 05:20
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 172 Susan Doris 28-Nov-08 07:00
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 153 Diomede 06-Dec-08 23:28
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 151 Voyager 06-Dec-08 23:39
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 174 Diomede 07-Dec-08 00:19
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 188 Susan Doris 07-Dec-08 08:06
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 193 Susan Doris 07-Dec-08 07:41
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 200 Nolondil 07-Dec-08 19:42
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 181 Voyager 27-Nov-08 02:31
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 168 NetWorkAngel 27-Nov-08 15:19
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 196 JonnyMcA 27-Nov-08 15:32
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 177 legionromanes 28-Nov-08 15:10
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 171 Diomede 01-Dec-08 21:31
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 182 legionromanes 01-Dec-08 21:50
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 179 Laird Scranton 02-Dec-08 16:26
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 147 JonnyMcA 02-Dec-08 17:11
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 167 Susan Doris 02-Dec-08 18:06
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 186 Laird Scranton 02-Dec-08 19:48
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 169 Laird Scranton 02-Dec-08 20:42
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 194 NetWorkAngel 02-Dec-08 20:43
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 158 Diomede 03-Dec-08 01:10
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 168 Diomede 02-Dec-08 23:26
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 195 Voyager 03-Dec-08 01:03
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 187 Laird Scranton 03-Dec-08 15:45
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 197 degiem1 04-Dec-08 23:28
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 166 Laird Scranton 04-Dec-08 23:46
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 146 Voyager 05-Dec-08 00:10
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 165 Diomede 05-Dec-08 21:18
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 136 Voyager 05-Dec-08 23:08
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 148 Susan Doris 06-Dec-08 07:24
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 142 Diomede 06-Dec-08 20:29
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 133 Susan Doris 07-Dec-08 07:15
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 153 degiem1 05-Dec-08 00:19
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 165 Laird Scranton 05-Dec-08 00:58
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 152 degiem1 05-Dec-08 01:59
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 155 Laird Scranton 05-Dec-08 02:48
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 150 degiem1 05-Dec-08 19:15
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 137 Voyager 05-Dec-08 03:15
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 151 Laird Scranton 05-Dec-08 04:18
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 135 Laird Scranton 05-Dec-08 04:37
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 145 Diomede 06-Dec-08 22:06
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 151 Voyager 06-Dec-08 23:45
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 147 Diomede 07-Dec-08 00:02
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 124 legionromanes 05-Dec-08 04:07
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 125 Laird Scranton 05-Dec-08 21:37
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 131 Laird Scranton 05-Dec-08 22:28
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 148 Laird Scranton 05-Dec-08 22:57
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 135 Laird Scranton 06-Dec-08 00:18
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 127 Laird Scranton 06-Dec-08 00:22
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 143 ariston 06-Dec-08 00:26
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 114 ariston 05-Dec-08 23:18
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 154 Laird Scranton 03-Dec-08 19:41
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 151 Diomede 07-Dec-08 02:17
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 172 legionromanes 07-Dec-08 14:21
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 126 Voyager 07-Dec-08 18:06
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 140 Diomede 08-Dec-08 00:22
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 141 legionromanes 08-Dec-08 08:24
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 152 ariston 01-Dec-08 22:04
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 151 Voyager 28-Nov-08 05:23
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 181 Diomede 06-Dec-08 23:51
The "Worzel Ash" (Los Chocoyos Volcanic Ash) 544 Xebec 26-Jun-08 03:47
What does this mean? 185 drrayeye 26-Jun-08 06:19
Re: What does this mean? 139 legionromanes 26-Jun-08 14:53
Re: What does this mean? 165 drrayeye 26-Jun-08 16:59
Re: What does this mean? 131 legionromanes 26-Jun-08 17:23
Re: What does this mean? 178 drrayeye 26-Jun-08 17:55
Re: What does this mean? 164 legionromanes 26-Jun-08 18:40
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 186 mephisto 23-Jun-08 04:21
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 139 legionromanes 23-Jun-08 04:24
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 169 Laird Scranton 23-Jun-08 03:24
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 164 legionromanes 23-Jun-08 04:25
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 181 Laird Scranton 23-Jun-08 12:31
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 156 legionromanes 23-Jun-08 15:55
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 145 Laird Scranton 23-Jun-08 20:16
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 142 legionromanes 23-Jun-08 20:18
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 176 Houcad 23-Jun-08 04:46
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 160 legionromanes 23-Jun-08 06:17
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 136 Nolondil 24-Jun-08 03:10
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 162 Laird Scranton 24-Jun-08 03:13
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 153 JonnyMcA 24-Jun-08 07:18
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 182 Laird Scranton 23-Jun-08 12:37
What little I understand 157 drrayeye 23-Jun-08 09:48
Re: What little I understand 166 mephisto 24-Jun-08 14:03
Re: What little I understand 164 Susan Doris 24-Jun-08 15:45
Re: What little I understand 140 Susan Doris 24-Jun-08 17:29
Re: What little I understand 166 drrayeye 24-Jun-08 19:28
Re: What little I understand 149 Elizabeth Newton 25-Jun-08 05:00
Nice Comment 144 Ghia 25-Jun-08 13:38
Re: What little I understand 135 Susan Doris 25-Jun-08 07:36
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 162 Susan Doris 23-Jun-08 07:23
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 140 Susan Doris 23-Jun-08 07:52
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 143 JonnyMcA 23-Jun-08 10:28
Laird does not believe Velikovsky is correct 135 drrayeye 23-Jun-08 12:23
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 149 Laird Scranton 23-Jun-08 12:50
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 162 JonnyMcA 23-Jun-08 13:23
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 132 drrayeye 23-Jun-08 16:08
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 182 JonnyMcA 23-Jun-08 16:28
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 175 legionromanes 23-Jun-08 16:40
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 170 Susan Doris 23-Jun-08 17:01
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 165 JonnyMcA 23-Jun-08 17:14
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 175 drrayeye 23-Jun-08 17:02
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 180 legionromanes 23-Jun-08 17:13
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 148 NetWorkAngel 23-Jun-08 17:52
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 138 drrayeye 23-Jun-08 17:55
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 169 legionromanes 23-Jun-08 18:20
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 130 drrayeye 23-Jun-08 18:34
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 153 legionromanes 23-Jun-08 18:37
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 188 JonnyMcA 23-Jun-08 19:00
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 134 legionromanes 23-Jun-08 19:40
Laird Scranton 196 drrayeye 23-Jun-08 19:11
Re: Laird Scranton 160 legionromanes 23-Jun-08 19:41
Moderator Note: 142 Hoppy 24-Jun-08 22:11
Re: Moderator Note: 161 Cognito 24-Jun-08 22:35
Re: Moderator Note:Moderator response 144 Ghia 24-Jun-08 23:00
Re: Moderator Note: 124 Hoppy 24-Jun-08 23:05
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 162 Laird Scranton 23-Jun-08 20:14
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 163 legionromanes 23-Jun-08 20:28
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 142 NetWorkAngel 23-Jun-08 21:32
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 167 legionromanes 23-Jun-08 22:18
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 153 JonnyMcA 23-Jun-08 22:21
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 162 Laird Scranton 23-Jun-08 22:30
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 138 JonnyMcA 23-Jun-08 22:42
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 149 Laird Scranton 23-Jun-08 23:19
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 156 Drewski 23-Jun-08 23:51
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 160 Laird Scranton 24-Jun-08 01:26
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 181 legionromanes 24-Jun-08 01:55
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 145 Cognito 24-Jun-08 04:19
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 163 Laird Scranton 24-Jun-08 12:37
Possibility of venus as a comet. 156 JonnyMcA 24-Jun-08 13:22
Re: Possibility of venus as a comet. 147 legionromanes 24-Jun-08 14:18
Re: Possibility of venus as a comet. 168 JonnyMcA 24-Jun-08 14:44
Water telescope 174 Ghia 24-Jun-08 17:46
Re: Possibility of venus as a comet. 191 Johnee 24-Jun-08 15:42
Re: Possibility of venus as a comet. 189 JonnyMcA 24-Jun-08 16:05
Re: Possibility of venus as a comet. 166 Johnee 24-Jun-08 16:44
Re: Possibility of venus as a comet. 140 JonnyMcA 24-Jun-08 17:15
Re: Possibility of venus as a comet. 166 Johnee 24-Jun-08 19:13
Re: Possibility of venus as a comet. 155 JonnyMcA 24-Jun-08 19:28
Re: Possibility of venus as a comet. 180 Johnee 24-Jun-08 23:29
Re: Possibility of venus as a comet. 177 JonnyMcA 25-Jun-08 08:53
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 165 Cognito 24-Jun-08 18:17
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 173 legionromanes 24-Jun-08 18:46
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 172 NetWorkAngel 24-Jun-08 19:04
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 181 Cognito 24-Jun-08 19:34
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 145 NetWorkAngel 24-Jun-08 19:39
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 129 Cognito 24-Jun-08 19:50
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 169 JonnyMcA 24-Jun-08 20:07
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 135 Laird Scranton 24-Jun-08 19:34
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 165 Cognito 24-Jun-08 19:52
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 135 Laird Scranton 24-Jun-08 19:40
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 169 Cognito 24-Jun-08 20:01
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 152 Laird Scranton 24-Jun-08 20:08
Mod Note 163 JonnyMcA 24-Jun-08 20:11
Re: Mod Note 148 Laird Scranton 24-Jun-08 20:14
Re: Mod Note 170 JonnyMcA 24-Jun-08 20:20
Re: Mod Note 138 Hoppy 24-Jun-08 23:08
Re: Mod Note 143 Laird Scranton 24-Jun-08 23:19
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 158 Cognito 24-Jun-08 20:32
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 147 Laird Scranton 24-Jun-08 20:40
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 132 Cognito 24-Jun-08 21:07
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 160 Laird Scranton 24-Jun-08 21:38
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 158 Cognito 24-Jun-08 22:14
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 147 Laird Scranton 24-Jun-08 22:37
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 139 Laird Scranton 24-Jun-08 22:48
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 160 Cognito 24-Jun-08 23:03
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 162 Laird Scranton 24-Jun-08 23:29
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 185 Cognito 25-Jun-08 03:08
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 138 Laird Scranton 25-Jun-08 03:25
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 166 Laird Scranton 25-Jun-08 03:32
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 154 Laird Scranton 25-Jun-08 04:06
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 136 Laird Scranton 25-Jun-08 14:56
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 121 legionromanes 25-Jun-08 19:22
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 155 Laird Scranton 25-Jun-08 21:56
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 184 Laird Scranton 25-Jun-08 21:58
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 176 Laird Scranton 26-Jun-08 03:25
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 141 legionromanes 26-Jun-08 03:36
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 131 JonnyMcA 26-Jun-08 07:36
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 152 Laird Scranton 26-Jun-08 12:26
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 169 JonnyMcA 26-Jun-08 12:48
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 142 mephisto 26-Jun-08 14:01
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 167 JonnyMcA 26-Jun-08 14:12
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 163 Laird Scranton 26-Jun-08 15:30
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 167 Laird Scranton 26-Jun-08 16:35
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 166 Cognito 26-Jun-08 22:22
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 171 Laird Scranton 26-Jun-08 23:26
Moderator Note 180 Hoppy 25-Jun-08 01:52
Re: Moderator Note 167 Laird Scranton 25-Jun-08 02:36
Re: Moderator Note 129 Hoppy 25-Jun-08 22:49
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 160 Laird Scranton 24-Jun-08 20:34
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 164 legionromanes 24-Jun-08 20:56
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 133 Laird Scranton 24-Jun-08 21:03
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 127 legionromanes 24-Jun-08 21:12
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 156 Laird Scranton 24-Jun-08 01:29
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 138 legionromanes 24-Jun-08 01:56
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 93 Laird Scranton 24-Jun-08 03:16
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 113 Laird Scranton 24-Jun-08 03:37
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 135 JonnyMcA 24-Jun-08 07:13
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 128 JonnyMcA 24-Jun-08 08:13
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 150 Laird Scranton 24-Jun-08 12:44
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 133 Laird Scranton 24-Jun-08 12:58
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 152 Laird Scranton 26-Jun-08 03:39
Venus see--Venus do 171 drrayeye 26-Jun-08 08:19
Re: Venus see--Venus do 178 Laird Scranton 26-Jun-08 12:19
Re: Venus see--Venus do 146 Laird Scranton 26-Jun-08 12:37
Re: Venus see--Venus do 145 Laird Scranton 26-Jun-08 12:41
Re: Venus see--Venus do 143 JonnyMcA 26-Jun-08 14:01
Re: Venus see--Venus do 157 NetWorkAngel 26-Jun-08 16:45
Re: Venus see--Venus do 133 JonnyMcA 26-Jun-08 12:54
Re: Venus see--Venus do 150 legionromanes 26-Jun-08 13:15
Re: Venus see--Venus do 170 drrayeye 26-Jun-08 18:07
Re: Venus see--Venus do 153 Laird Scranton 26-Jun-08 21:06
Re: Venus see--Venus do 138 JonnyMcA 26-Jun-08 21:38
Re: Venus see--Venus do 153 Laird Scranton 26-Jun-08 23:33
Re: Venus see--Venus do 147 Laird Scranton 27-Jun-08 02:16
Re: Venus see--Venus do 131 Laird Scranton 27-Jun-08 03:26
Re: Venus see--Venus do 117 Laird Scranton 27-Jun-08 03:28
Re: Venus see--Venus do 144 JonnyMcA 27-Jun-08 07:55
Re: Venus see--Venus do 122 Me 27-Jun-08 02:19
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 123 Laird Scranton 24-Jun-08 03:24
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 116 R and M 24-Jun-08 03:42
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 118 NetWorkAngel 24-Jun-08 14:55
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 157 JonnyMcA 24-Jun-08 15:41
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 141 legionromanes 24-Jun-08 15:42
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 151 R and M 24-Jun-08 03:39
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 201 Susan Doris 24-Jun-08 15:50
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 155 Laird Scranton 24-Jun-08 18:12
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 131 Laird Scranton 24-Jun-08 19:45
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 158 NetWorkAngel 24-Jun-08 19:47
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 142 Laird Scranton 24-Jun-08 20:05
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 147 JonnyMcA 24-Jun-08 20:12
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 104 JonnyMcA 24-Jun-08 20:13
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 102 NetWorkAngel 25-Jun-08 14:59
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 96 JonnyMcA 25-Jun-08 15:23
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 115 NetWorkAngel 25-Jun-08 15:31
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 87 Laird Scranton 24-Jun-08 19:51
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 134 JonnyMcA 24-Jun-08 20:19
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 123 The Kwuda 24-Jun-08 20:28
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 99 JonnyMcA 24-Jun-08 20:33
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 134 Me 25-Jun-08 02:02
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 122 Laird Scranton 25-Jun-08 02:42
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 144 Laird Scranton 25-Jun-08 03:24
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 133 legionromanes 25-Jun-08 12:38
Moderator Note 100 Hoppy 26-Jun-08 00:52
Re: Moderator Note 129 JonnyMcA 26-Jun-08 08:12
Re: Moderator Note 137 legionromanes 26-Jun-08 16:49
Re: Moderator Note 99 Hoppy 27-Jun-08 00:50
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 130 legionromanes 24-Jun-08 21:05
Laird, have you seen this? 122 mephisto 26-Jun-08 15:23
Re: Laird, have you seen this? 139 mephisto 26-Jun-08 16:02
Re: Laird, have you seen this? 119 legionromanes 26-Jun-08 17:24
Re: Laird, have you seen this? 125 mephisto 27-Jun-08 01:53
Re: Laird, have you seen this? 138 Laird Scranton 27-Jun-08 02:23
Re: Laird, have you seen this? 126 legionromanes 27-Jun-08 13:47
Re: Laird, have you seen this? 133 Laird Scranton 27-Jun-08 02:18
Re: Laird, have you seen this? 133 mephisto 27-Jun-08 02:23
Re: Laird, have you seen this? 139 Laird Scranton 27-Jun-08 03:14
Re: Laird, have you seen this? 118 mephisto 27-Jun-08 03:38
Re: Laird, have you seen this? 139 mephisto 27-Jun-08 05:46
Re: Laird, have you seen this? 135 legionromanes 27-Jun-08 13:52
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 98 Diomede 25-Nov-08 22:33
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 107 Joe Atlantis 28-Nov-08 05:51
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 104 Diomede 28-Nov-08 22:57
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 139 Joe Atlantis 12-Dec-08 13:38
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 130 Diomede 12-Dec-08 16:50
Re: A partial list in favor of Velikovsky 143 Joe Atlantis 12-Dec-08 23:33
Thread Closed 102 JonnyMcA 12-Dec-08 23:50


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