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Hi Richard, and Scott. Yes Richard I understand your points I think, I explain it as best I can and then you can say yes or no. As I might be way off the mark.

The amount of tilt that the earth incurs in its yearly rotation of the sun, its a rotational axis has seemly decreased from 26 to 23.5 degrees, and this would decrease seasonal changes between hot and cold at various N and S lats. The way to visualize this is best done through drawing a central line through the solar poles, and then through the earth's polar axis, and this angle between the two is where the difference occurs.

So this is not actually down to a change in the point on the globe that is its central axis of spin is, as we know that this has changed and will continue to change with time, it is down to the amount of tilt that determines winter and summer in the northern and southern hemisphere as the yearly orbit progresses (the earth doesn't swing back and forth, it is only when on one side of the sun the NH is nearer, on the other it the SHem is as the axis point in relationship to the heavens remains static on the pole star at this time, so the movement is like a cone or circular dowsing pendulum with the sun in the middle of it.)

With no tilt to the earth, in its orbit around the sun the temp would remain a constant throughout the globe but it would still be warmer at the equator than the poles just because of the curvature, and any temp variation would be because of the orbit path alone. In a purely circular orbit there would be no winter or summer, and in an oval orbit there would be a winter and summer (to the same degree at northern and southern lats) variation.

So the axis of the pole could remain exactly as per but still the axis tilt could be totally different. The change would occur in the pole star though as the axis would point to a different position in the heaven's, and this change in the course of the stars would concern with the ancient description of what happened.

Now secondly, as we were discussing the change between the earth energy grid, this would mean a difference between true Magnetic North and Axis North - so what is the difference with this over time? Is it a constant or does it vary greatly?

And now getting back to our last posts about the hidden streams of energy within the body of the earth (within our own body) that is not of the time/space, which I refer as the core stream or the centre of the helix. The information this stream contains is the precursor to what appears in the visible universe as it can access any point at any time/space in the universal lattice. The information flows over the event horizon for a point that cannot be known but we can know it is there because we can read the information that flows from and back to it as a set of laws or rules through which all things come into being (this information governs all changes that occur in the atomic or sub-atomic levels and they are set into a firm maths). In other words all parts in the atomic lattice are in touch with the source of energy, at all times in the cycles from beginning to end. As time/space does not exist for the core stream of information that is present in all things, each electron, each strand of DNA, and each cell therefore has a part of it that functions in dimension beyond time/space in the EM spectrum but we cannot penetrate this stream by conventional means. As with x-raying DNA its central part appears to have nothing in it, as its central core is functioning higher on the EM spectrum than X-rays, and they are about at the highest detectable level in the visible universe. So we know there are high levels of dimensions flowing across event horizons as is the case with Hawkin's Radiation, and we also know that energy realms that we can observed to be within the body is bound-up or closed-up in limited space/time.

I hope this gives some ideas for debate on this subject (hope it even make some sense) - I've been doing a bit of using the day-dream stream to visualize what might be going on - Paul.



In the union of Heaven and Earth all things come forth.

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Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 565 Scott Creighton 23-Aug-07 01:41
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 307 Ahatmose 23-Aug-07 03:10
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 332 Broker 23-Aug-07 04:15
Special Thanks to Gary Osborn 343 Scott Creighton 23-Aug-07 11:20
Re: Special Thanks to Gary Osborn 329 P Mac 23-Aug-07 12:17
Re: Special Thanks to Gary Osborn 369 Scott Creighton 23-Aug-07 19:34
Re: Special Thanks to Gary Osborn 411 Gary Osborn 23-Aug-07 14:10
Re: Special Thanks to Gary Osborn 356 Joyeuse 23-Aug-07 15:28
Re: Special Thanks to Gary Osborn 357 Scott Creighton 23-Aug-07 19:30
Re: Special Thanks to Gary Osborn 326 Joyeuse 23-Aug-07 21:15
Re: Special Thanks to Gary Osborn 373 Joyeuse 23-Aug-07 15:25
Re: Special Thanks to Gary Osborn 335 Gary Osborn 23-Aug-07 15:36
Re: Special Thanks to Gary Osborn 346 Joyeuse 23-Aug-07 16:16
Re: Special Thanks to Gary Osborn 350 Gary Osborn 23-Aug-07 16:22
Re: Special Thanks to Gary Osborn 359 Joyeuse 23-Aug-07 16:45
Re: Special Thanks to Gary Osborn 304 Gary Osborn 23-Aug-07 16:58
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 313 Scott Creighton 23-Aug-07 19:33
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 336 Broker 24-Aug-07 02:25
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 347 Kboldt 23-Aug-07 15:50
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 301 Gary Osborn 23-Aug-07 16:01
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 368 Kboldt 23-Aug-07 16:33
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 354 Gary Osborn 23-Aug-07 20:22
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 309 Kboldt 23-Aug-07 20:33
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 260 Dale Robert Lerch 24-Aug-07 08:36
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 310 P Mac 23-Aug-07 16:49
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 355 Scott Creighton 23-Aug-07 19:37
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 351 Gary Osborn 23-Aug-07 20:31
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 360 Kboldt 23-Aug-07 20:49
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 372 NetWorkAngel 24-Aug-07 20:54
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 341 Scott Creighton 24-Aug-07 21:04
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 229 NetWorkAngel 23-Aug-07 17:10
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 338 Kboldt 23-Aug-07 17:26
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 375 P Mac 23-Aug-07 17:35
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 271 Scott Creighton 23-Aug-07 19:40
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 337 Gary Osborn 23-Aug-07 20:08
A bit of clarification 314 Jon B 23-Aug-07 17:45
Re: A bit of clarification 275 Scott Creighton 23-Aug-07 20:00
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 372 Scott Creighton 23-Aug-07 20:50
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 396 mephisto 23-Aug-07 07:44
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 305 Scott Creighton 23-Aug-07 20:03
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 333 Gary Osborn 23-Aug-07 08:20
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 346 Scott Creighton 23-Aug-07 20:04
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 332 Gary Osborn 24-Aug-07 10:25
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 354 Gary Osborn 24-Aug-07 11:13
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 244 P Mac 24-Aug-07 11:55
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 343 Gary Osborn 24-Aug-07 13:26
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 384 Sirfiroth 24-Aug-07 14:52
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 331 Gary Osborn 24-Aug-07 15:02
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 364 Sirfiroth 25-Aug-07 03:42
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 305 Gary Osborn 26-Aug-07 12:21
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 285 P Mac 24-Aug-07 11:45
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 314 Gary Osborn 24-Aug-07 12:00
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 329 magisterchessmutt 24-Aug-07 12:23
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 357 Gary Osborn 24-Aug-07 14:10
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 342 Scott Creighton 24-Aug-07 18:21
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 301 Gary Osborn 24-Aug-07 19:18
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 371 Ghia 23-Aug-07 08:40
Wow! 445 Ghia 23-Aug-07 09:06
Re: Wow! 366 Scott Creighton 23-Aug-07 20:06
Re: Wow! 350 Jackfrost 24-Aug-07 16:09
Re: Wow! 327 Scott Creighton 24-Aug-07 16:49
Re: Wow! 362 Saravuth 26-Aug-07 02:35
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 207 Morph 23-Aug-07 09:07
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 331 Ghia 23-Aug-07 09:12
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 322 Morph 23-Aug-07 10:25
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 298 Joyeuse 23-Aug-07 16:58
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 359 mephisto 23-Aug-07 12:06
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 415 Ahatmose 23-Aug-07 12:57
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 347 Spiros 23-Aug-07 09:24
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 329 Morph 23-Aug-07 13:30
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 255 Gary Osborn 23-Aug-07 13:54
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 344 Gary Osborn 23-Aug-07 14:19
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 360 Morph 23-Aug-07 14:20
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 330 Ahatmose 23-Aug-07 13:56
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 328 Sirfiroth 23-Aug-07 13:31
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 285 Scott Creighton 23-Aug-07 20:09
More fully... 370 Morph 23-Aug-07 13:53
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 266 Ahatmose 23-Aug-07 14:08
Addendum: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 277 Ahatmose 23-Aug-07 14:19
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 340 Gary Osborn 23-Aug-07 23:48
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 328 Morph 23-Aug-07 14:13
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 389 drrayeye 23-Aug-07 14:47
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 327 Scott Creighton 23-Aug-07 20:18
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 451 drrayeye 24-Aug-07 14:28
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 326 Joyeuse 23-Aug-07 15:22
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 339 Ahatmose 23-Aug-07 15:29
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 300 Joyeuse 23-Aug-07 16:05
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 368 NetWorkAngel 23-Aug-07 17:16
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 371 Joyeuse 23-Aug-07 17:39
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 346 NetWorkAngel 23-Aug-07 17:45
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 306 Joyeuse 23-Aug-07 17:42
oops pls read "can't" instead of can N/T 370 Joyeuse 23-Aug-07 17:44
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 300 Scott Creighton 23-Aug-07 21:22
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 331 Dale Robert Lerch 24-Aug-07 09:06
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 296 Scott Creighton 24-Aug-07 13:46
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 281 Joe Atlantis 23-Aug-07 19:25
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 344 Scott Creighton 23-Aug-07 20:26
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 372 Warwick 24-Aug-07 17:34
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 413 Scott Creighton 24-Aug-07 17:42
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 322 Warwick 24-Aug-07 18:11
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 350 Kboldt 24-Aug-07 18:23
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 374 Warwick 24-Aug-07 18:38
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 378 Scott Creighton 24-Aug-07 18:39
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 340 Warwick 25-Aug-07 17:21
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 351 Scott Creighton 25-Aug-07 17:33
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 320 Warwick 25-Aug-07 17:44
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 370 Scott Creighton 25-Aug-07 17:57
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 324 Warwick 26-Aug-07 17:26
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 339 Broker 26-Aug-07 19:42
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 331 Scott Creighton 26-Aug-07 20:52
Moderator Note 367 Ghia 26-Aug-07 23:31
Re: Moderator Note 337 Warwick 29-Aug-07 16:49
Re: Moderator Note 390 Ahatmose 29-Aug-07 17:21
Re: Moderator Note 331 Warwick 01-Sep-07 18:28
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 260 Ahatmose 24-Aug-07 18:42
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 233 caugusto 24-Aug-07 21:34
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 310 Warwick 25-Aug-07 17:29
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 348 Kboldt 24-Aug-07 18:04
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 331 Gary Osborn 24-Aug-07 18:42
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 389 Scott Creighton 24-Aug-07 18:49
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 337 Kboldt 24-Aug-07 19:05
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 285 Ahatmose 24-Aug-07 19:19
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 354 Scott Creighton 24-Aug-07 19:29
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 320 Ahatmose 24-Aug-07 20:16
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 300 Gary Osborn 24-Aug-07 20:45
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 359 Scott Creighton 24-Aug-07 20:53
More Chills... 262 Ghia 25-Aug-07 00:21
Re: More Chills... 324 P Mac 25-Aug-07 11:12
Re: More Chills... 307 Scott Creighton 25-Aug-07 12:31
Re: More Chills... 175 P Mac 25-Aug-07 13:30
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 336 Kboldt 24-Aug-07 19:01
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 353 Gary Osborn 24-Aug-07 19:29
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 410 jnisbet 25-Aug-07 01:48
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 342 Scott Creighton 25-Aug-07 11:00
A shadow beyond the doubt 361 drew 25-Aug-07 03:06
Re: A shadow beyond the doubt 330 jnisbet 25-Aug-07 03:41
Re: A shadow beyond the doubt 402 drew 25-Aug-07 12:43
Re: A shadow beyond the doubt 326 P Mac 25-Aug-07 11:46
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 354 Saravuth 25-Aug-07 14:34
please explain 310 Spiros 25-Aug-07 14:40
Re: please explain 337 Mr. Hunter 25-Aug-07 15:48
Re: please explain 346 magisterchessmutt 26-Aug-07 00:17
Re: please explain 337 Scott Creighton 25-Aug-07 17:11
the solution? 339 Spiros 25-Aug-07 18:53
Re: the solution? 361 Scott Creighton 25-Aug-07 20:49
Re: the solution? 298 Spiros 25-Aug-07 21:50
Re: the solution? 328 Scott Creighton 25-Aug-07 22:11
Re: the solution? 295 Gary Osborn 26-Aug-07 00:23
Re: the solution? 309 Scott Creighton 26-Aug-07 01:21
Re: the solution? 314 Dale Robert Lerch 26-Aug-07 07:47
Re: the solution? 338 Gary Osborn 30-Aug-07 20:28
Re: the solution? 352 Gary Osborn 26-Aug-07 12:37
Re: the solution? 286 Spiros 27-Aug-07 19:18
Re: the solution? 332 Gary Osborn 27-Aug-07 19:23
Question remains unanswered ... at least to me. 348 Ahatmose 26-Aug-07 02:04
Re: Question remains unanswered ... at least to me. 344 Scott Creighton 26-Aug-07 20:05
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 365 Scott Creighton 25-Aug-07 17:17
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 284 magisterchessmutt 26-Aug-07 01:52
Testing and validating the Giza axial tilt theory 412 drrayeye 26-Aug-07 20:29
Re: Testing and validating the Giza axial tilt theory 268 Scott Creighton 27-Aug-07 17:43
Re: Testing and validating the Giza axial tilt theory 360 Ahatmose 27-Aug-07 17:54
Firestone 407 drrayeye 27-Aug-07 20:10
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 315 Richard Essame 27-Aug-07 02:59
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 351 Ghia 27-Aug-07 03:12
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 331 Richard Essame 27-Aug-07 06:38
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 293 magisterchessmutt 27-Aug-07 05:00
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 329 Richard Essame 27-Aug-07 06:04
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 348 magisterchessmutt 27-Aug-07 06:24
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 341 Richard Essame 27-Aug-07 07:12
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 370 Ahatmose 27-Aug-07 14:19
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 342 Scott Creighton 27-Aug-07 14:51
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 362 Ahatmose 27-Aug-07 16:02
Addendum ... 387 Ahatmose 27-Aug-07 16:31
Re: Addendum ... 353 Scott Creighton 27-Aug-07 16:49
Re: Addendum ... 310 Ahatmose 27-Aug-07 17:00
Re: Addendum ... 348 Scott Creighton 27-Aug-07 17:30
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 341 Richard Essame 27-Aug-07 19:28
This may help, Don 323 Cesar 27-Aug-07 22:18
Re: This may help, Don 333 Ghia 27-Aug-07 23:40
Re: This may help, Don 353 Scott Creighton 27-Aug-07 23:59
Re: This may help, Don 342 Cesar 28-Aug-07 02:40
Re: This may help, Don 313 Sirfiroth 28-Aug-07 02:51
Re: This may help, Don 332 Cesar 28-Aug-07 04:12
Re: This may help, Don 375 Sirfiroth 28-Aug-07 05:29
Re: This may help, Don 353 Ahatmose 28-Aug-07 02:15
Re: This may help, Don 369 Cesar 28-Aug-07 04:12
Re: This may help, Don 422 Scott Creighton 28-Aug-07 10:56
Re: This may help, Don 324 Cesar 28-Aug-07 21:44
The Impactor 306 Scott Creighton 28-Aug-07 22:17
Re: This may help, Don 259 Scott Creighton 29-Aug-07 11:38
Intriguing 382 Cesar 01-Sep-07 12:03
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 409 LonelyAngel 27-Aug-07 18:37
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 365 Scott Creighton 27-Aug-07 18:44
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 377 LonelyAngel 28-Aug-07 17:57
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 327 Deep1 28-Aug-07 18:52
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 314 LonelyAngel 29-Aug-07 20:38
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 325 Deep1 29-Aug-07 20:59
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 342 Ahatmose 29-Aug-07 21:23
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 328 LonelyAngel 30-Aug-07 16:24
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 351 Scott Creighton 30-Aug-07 17:02
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 334 LonelyAngel 30-Aug-07 17:43
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 304 Gary Osborn 30-Aug-07 20:01
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 340 Scott Creighton 30-Aug-07 21:17
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 331 Gary Osborn 30-Aug-07 21:44
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 317 LonelyAngel 30-Aug-07 21:57
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 354 Gary Osborn 30-Aug-07 23:40
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 354 Morph 31-Aug-07 11:39
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 341 Scott Creighton 28-Aug-07 18:55
One major problem as I see it ... 306 Ahatmose 28-Aug-07 23:07
Re: One major problem as I see it ... 359 P Mac 29-Aug-07 00:02
Re: One major problem as I see it ... 289 magisterchessmutt 29-Aug-07 00:25
Re: One major problem as I see it ... 367 Richard Essame 29-Aug-07 00:33
Re: One major problem as I see it ... 347 Ahatmose 29-Aug-07 02:39
Re: One major problem as I see it ... 356 Richard Essame 29-Aug-07 03:04
Re: One major problem as I see it ... 384 Ahatmose 29-Aug-07 03:15
Re: One major problem as I see it ... 332 Richard Essame 29-Aug-07 05:24
Re: One major problem as I see it ... 275 Cesar 29-Aug-07 02:21
Re: One major problem as I see it ... 347 caugusto 29-Aug-07 04:40
Re: One major Solution? 332 Scott Creighton 29-Aug-07 09:56
Re: One major Solution? 390 Ahatmose 29-Aug-07 17:47
Re: One major Solution? 302 Richard Essame 30-Aug-07 00:16
Re: One major Solution? 347 Richard Essame 30-Aug-07 19:24
Re: One major Solution? 386 P Mac 31-Aug-07 12:44
Re: One major Solution? 327 Richard Essame 31-Aug-07 23:39
Re: One major Solution? 324 Scott Creighton 01-Sep-07 10:25
Re: One major Solution? 295 P Mac 01-Sep-07 16:13
Re: One major Solution? 336 P Mac 02-Sep-07 00:23
Re: One major Solution? 333 Ahatmose 02-Sep-07 01:50
Or another solution... 364 drew 29-Aug-07 21:35
Re: Or another solution... 289 Jackfrost 30-Aug-07 15:46
Re: Or another solution... 290 P Mac 30-Aug-07 16:39
Re: Or another solution... 336 Jackfrost 31-Aug-07 10:55
Re: Or another solution... 370 P Mac 31-Aug-07 16:01
Re: Or another solution... 355 Richard Essame 01-Sep-07 01:57


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