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Hi Scott Creighton,

Overall, I would like to commend and compliment your indepth GPATT presentation. I know how much you have worked on it, and it is indeed thought provoking. However, you are using the terms "North" and "Latitude" much too liberally in this presentation. Of course I understand what it is you are intending to explain, but it would be less confusing if you would be more specific in the use of these terms. Latitude is an imaginary cross section of the Earth's surface solely, and although related to celestial coordinates of the Ecliptic plane and Ecliptic North of that plane, it needs to be differentiated as such. This is just a minor issue of course. A much larger confusion I am having right now with this dramatization, is what would be the overall effect of such a radical polar axis shift due south as you present, with respect to the East/West or Ecliptic plane itself. Would our present calculations concerning the process of "Precession" time remain the same, or would they be intrinsically affected as well. Would the much heralded Zep Tepi (age of Leo) time of around 10,500 BC, be compressed into say the edge of the age of Taurus, thus loosing around two zodiac signs or around 4000yrs. which seems to be a much vacuous era in human affairs as far as any indictative records are available. Sort of a collective state of amnesia would be a good analogy I think.

If this catastrophic tilt occurred before 10500 BC, it shouldn't affect Precession rate calculations that much, but if it occurred after, well,,,,there goes the foundational basis of much alternative archeological dating theory with it right? As you mention, more possibilities regarding the effects of this theory need to be explored, and I agree.

Best regards,

Stephen W. Dail

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Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 479 Scott Creighton 23-Aug-07 01:41
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 263 Ahatmose 23-Aug-07 03:10
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 298 Broker 23-Aug-07 04:15
Special Thanks to Gary Osborn 321 Scott Creighton 23-Aug-07 11:20
Re: Special Thanks to Gary Osborn 284 P Mac 23-Aug-07 12:17
Re: Special Thanks to Gary Osborn 330 Scott Creighton 23-Aug-07 19:34
Re: Special Thanks to Gary Osborn 375 Gary Osborn 23-Aug-07 14:10
Re: Special Thanks to Gary Osborn 313 Joyeuse 23-Aug-07 15:28
Re: Special Thanks to Gary Osborn 318 Scott Creighton 23-Aug-07 19:30
Re: Special Thanks to Gary Osborn 286 Joyeuse 23-Aug-07 21:15
Re: Special Thanks to Gary Osborn 339 Joyeuse 23-Aug-07 15:25
Re: Special Thanks to Gary Osborn 293 Gary Osborn 23-Aug-07 15:36
Re: Special Thanks to Gary Osborn 306 Joyeuse 23-Aug-07 16:16
Re: Special Thanks to Gary Osborn 311 Gary Osborn 23-Aug-07 16:22
Re: Special Thanks to Gary Osborn 322 Joyeuse 23-Aug-07 16:45
Re: Special Thanks to Gary Osborn 271 Gary Osborn 23-Aug-07 16:58
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 276 Scott Creighton 23-Aug-07 19:33
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 294 Broker 24-Aug-07 02:25
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 302 Kboldt 23-Aug-07 15:50
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 259 Gary Osborn 23-Aug-07 16:01
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 322 Kboldt 23-Aug-07 16:33
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 300 Gary Osborn 23-Aug-07 20:22
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 261 Kboldt 23-Aug-07 20:33
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 220 Dale Robert Lerch 24-Aug-07 08:36
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 283 P Mac 23-Aug-07 16:49
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 317 Scott Creighton 23-Aug-07 19:37
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 313 Gary Osborn 23-Aug-07 20:31
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 318 Kboldt 23-Aug-07 20:49
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 328 NetWorkAngel 24-Aug-07 20:54
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 300 Scott Creighton 24-Aug-07 21:04
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 188 NetWorkAngel 23-Aug-07 17:10
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 287 Kboldt 23-Aug-07 17:26
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 336 P Mac 23-Aug-07 17:35
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 223 Scott Creighton 23-Aug-07 19:40
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 265 Gary Osborn 23-Aug-07 20:08
A bit of clarification 277 Jon B 23-Aug-07 17:45
Re: A bit of clarification 232 Scott Creighton 23-Aug-07 20:00
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 337 Scott Creighton 23-Aug-07 20:50
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 350 mephisto 23-Aug-07 07:44
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 265 Scott Creighton 23-Aug-07 20:03
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 288 Gary Osborn 23-Aug-07 08:20
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 312 Scott Creighton 23-Aug-07 20:04
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 289 Gary Osborn 24-Aug-07 10:25
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 294 Gary Osborn 24-Aug-07 11:13
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 201 P Mac 24-Aug-07 11:55
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 306 Gary Osborn 24-Aug-07 13:26
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 337 Sirfiroth 24-Aug-07 14:52
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 296 Gary Osborn 24-Aug-07 15:02
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 315 Sirfiroth 25-Aug-07 03:42
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 257 Gary Osborn 26-Aug-07 12:21
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 252 P Mac 24-Aug-07 11:45
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 282 Gary Osborn 24-Aug-07 12:00
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 273 magisterchessmutt 24-Aug-07 12:23
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 314 Gary Osborn 24-Aug-07 14:10
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 302 Scott Creighton 24-Aug-07 18:21
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 264 Gary Osborn 24-Aug-07 19:18
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 333 Ghia 23-Aug-07 08:40
Wow! 402 Ghia 23-Aug-07 09:06
Re: Wow! 329 Scott Creighton 23-Aug-07 20:06
Re: Wow! 314 Jackfrost 24-Aug-07 16:09
Re: Wow! 278 Scott Creighton 24-Aug-07 16:49
Re: Wow! 323 Saravuth 26-Aug-07 02:35
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 165 Morph 23-Aug-07 09:07
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 289 Ghia 23-Aug-07 09:12
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 285 Morph 23-Aug-07 10:25
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 263 Joyeuse 23-Aug-07 16:58
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 314 mephisto 23-Aug-07 12:06
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 369 Ahatmose 23-Aug-07 12:57
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 310 Spiros 23-Aug-07 09:24
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 282 Morph 23-Aug-07 13:30
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 218 Gary Osborn 23-Aug-07 13:54
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 302 Gary Osborn 23-Aug-07 14:19
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 324 Morph 23-Aug-07 14:20
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 294 Ahatmose 23-Aug-07 13:56
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 294 Sirfiroth 23-Aug-07 13:31
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 246 Scott Creighton 23-Aug-07 20:09
More fully... 328 Morph 23-Aug-07 13:53
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 228 Ahatmose 23-Aug-07 14:08
Addendum: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 241 Ahatmose 23-Aug-07 14:19
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 299 Gary Osborn 23-Aug-07 23:48
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 287 Morph 23-Aug-07 14:13
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 345 drrayeye 23-Aug-07 14:47
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 283 Scott Creighton 23-Aug-07 20:18
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 402 drrayeye 24-Aug-07 14:28
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 277 Joyeuse 23-Aug-07 15:22
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 295 Ahatmose 23-Aug-07 15:29
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 255 Joyeuse 23-Aug-07 16:05
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 330 NetWorkAngel 23-Aug-07 17:16
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 338 Joyeuse 23-Aug-07 17:39
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 300 NetWorkAngel 23-Aug-07 17:45
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 270 Joyeuse 23-Aug-07 17:42
oops pls read "can't" instead of can N/T 332 Joyeuse 23-Aug-07 17:44
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 273 Scott Creighton 23-Aug-07 21:22
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 294 Dale Robert Lerch 24-Aug-07 09:06
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 249 Scott Creighton 24-Aug-07 13:46
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 237 Joe Atlantis 23-Aug-07 19:25
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 304 Scott Creighton 23-Aug-07 20:26
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 330 Warwick 24-Aug-07 17:34
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 354 Scott Creighton 24-Aug-07 17:42
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 287 Warwick 24-Aug-07 18:11
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 314 Kboldt 24-Aug-07 18:23
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 339 Warwick 24-Aug-07 18:38
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 332 Scott Creighton 24-Aug-07 18:39
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 299 Warwick 25-Aug-07 17:21
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 314 Scott Creighton 25-Aug-07 17:33
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 282 Warwick 25-Aug-07 17:44
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 336 Scott Creighton 25-Aug-07 17:57
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 285 Warwick 26-Aug-07 17:26
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 305 Broker 26-Aug-07 19:42
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 266 Scott Creighton 26-Aug-07 20:52
Moderator Note 320 Ghia 26-Aug-07 23:31
Re: Moderator Note 288 Warwick 29-Aug-07 16:49
Re: Moderator Note 337 Ahatmose 29-Aug-07 17:21
Re: Moderator Note 294 Warwick 01-Sep-07 18:28
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 221 Ahatmose 24-Aug-07 18:42
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 202 caugusto 24-Aug-07 21:34
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 276 Warwick 25-Aug-07 17:29
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 295 Kboldt 24-Aug-07 18:04
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 287 Gary Osborn 24-Aug-07 18:42
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 337 Scott Creighton 24-Aug-07 18:49
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 292 Kboldt 24-Aug-07 19:05
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 252 Ahatmose 24-Aug-07 19:19
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 285 Scott Creighton 24-Aug-07 19:29
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 283 Ahatmose 24-Aug-07 20:16
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 263 Gary Osborn 24-Aug-07 20:45
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 326 Scott Creighton 24-Aug-07 20:53
More Chills... 193 Ghia 25-Aug-07 00:21
Re: More Chills... 290 P Mac 25-Aug-07 11:12
Re: More Chills... 268 Scott Creighton 25-Aug-07 12:31
Re: More Chills... 135 P Mac 25-Aug-07 13:30
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 296 Kboldt 24-Aug-07 19:01
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 303 Gary Osborn 24-Aug-07 19:29
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 365 jnisbet 25-Aug-07 01:48
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 295 Scott Creighton 25-Aug-07 11:00
A shadow beyond the doubt 304 drew 25-Aug-07 03:06
Re: A shadow beyond the doubt 287 jnisbet 25-Aug-07 03:41
Re: A shadow beyond the doubt 352 drew 25-Aug-07 12:43
Re: A shadow beyond the doubt 293 P Mac 25-Aug-07 11:46
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 300 Saravuth 25-Aug-07 14:34
please explain 269 Spiros 25-Aug-07 14:40
Re: please explain 315 Mr. Hunter 25-Aug-07 15:48
Re: please explain 309 magisterchessmutt 26-Aug-07 00:17
Re: please explain 295 Scott Creighton 25-Aug-07 17:11
the solution? 299 Spiros 25-Aug-07 18:53
Re: the solution? 314 Scott Creighton 25-Aug-07 20:49
Re: the solution? 256 Spiros 25-Aug-07 21:50
Re: the solution? 291 Scott Creighton 25-Aug-07 22:11
Re: the solution? 258 Gary Osborn 26-Aug-07 00:23
Re: the solution? 270 Scott Creighton 26-Aug-07 01:21
Re: the solution? 270 Dale Robert Lerch 26-Aug-07 07:47
Re: the solution? 286 Gary Osborn 30-Aug-07 20:28
Re: the solution? 318 Gary Osborn 26-Aug-07 12:37
Re: the solution? 248 Spiros 27-Aug-07 19:18
Re: the solution? 291 Gary Osborn 27-Aug-07 19:23
Question remains unanswered ... at least to me. 313 Ahatmose 26-Aug-07 02:04
Re: Question remains unanswered ... at least to me. 309 Scott Creighton 26-Aug-07 20:05
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 321 Scott Creighton 25-Aug-07 17:17
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 248 magisterchessmutt 26-Aug-07 01:52
Testing and validating the Giza axial tilt theory 371 drrayeye 26-Aug-07 20:29
Re: Testing and validating the Giza axial tilt theory 232 Scott Creighton 27-Aug-07 17:43
Re: Testing and validating the Giza axial tilt theory 319 Ahatmose 27-Aug-07 17:54
Firestone 365 drrayeye 27-Aug-07 20:10
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 281 Richard Essame 27-Aug-07 02:59
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 308 Ghia 27-Aug-07 03:12
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 293 Richard Essame 27-Aug-07 06:38
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 250 magisterchessmutt 27-Aug-07 05:00
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 290 Richard Essame 27-Aug-07 06:04
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 307 magisterchessmutt 27-Aug-07 06:24
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 302 Richard Essame 27-Aug-07 07:12
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 315 Ahatmose 27-Aug-07 14:19
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 302 Scott Creighton 27-Aug-07 14:51
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 321 Ahatmose 27-Aug-07 16:02
Addendum ... 344 Ahatmose 27-Aug-07 16:31
Re: Addendum ... 317 Scott Creighton 27-Aug-07 16:49
Re: Addendum ... 272 Ahatmose 27-Aug-07 17:00
Re: Addendum ... 311 Scott Creighton 27-Aug-07 17:30
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 297 Richard Essame 27-Aug-07 19:28
This may help, Don 284 Cesar 27-Aug-07 22:18
Re: This may help, Don 297 Ghia 27-Aug-07 23:40
Re: This may help, Don 290 Scott Creighton 27-Aug-07 23:59
Re: This may help, Don 303 Cesar 28-Aug-07 02:40
Re: This may help, Don 274 Sirfiroth 28-Aug-07 02:51
Re: This may help, Don 282 Cesar 28-Aug-07 04:12
Re: This may help, Don 332 Sirfiroth 28-Aug-07 05:29
Re: This may help, Don 308 Ahatmose 28-Aug-07 02:15
Re: This may help, Don 333 Cesar 28-Aug-07 04:12
Re: This may help, Don 380 Scott Creighton 28-Aug-07 10:56
Re: This may help, Don 286 Cesar 28-Aug-07 21:44
The Impactor 251 Scott Creighton 28-Aug-07 22:17
Re: This may help, Don 226 Scott Creighton 29-Aug-07 11:38
Intriguing 339 Cesar 01-Sep-07 12:03
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 356 LonelyAngel 27-Aug-07 18:37
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 329 Scott Creighton 27-Aug-07 18:44
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 342 LonelyAngel 28-Aug-07 17:57
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 290 Deep1 28-Aug-07 18:52
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 272 LonelyAngel 29-Aug-07 20:38
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 273 Deep1 29-Aug-07 20:59
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 303 Ahatmose 29-Aug-07 21:23
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 277 LonelyAngel 30-Aug-07 16:24
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 316 Scott Creighton 30-Aug-07 17:02
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 295 LonelyAngel 30-Aug-07 17:43
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 260 Gary Osborn 30-Aug-07 20:01
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 300 Scott Creighton 30-Aug-07 21:17
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 296 Gary Osborn 30-Aug-07 21:44
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 281 LonelyAngel 30-Aug-07 21:57
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 307 Gary Osborn 30-Aug-07 23:40
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 319 Morph 31-Aug-07 11:39
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 296 Scott Creighton 28-Aug-07 18:55
One major problem as I see it ... 267 Ahatmose 28-Aug-07 23:07
Re: One major problem as I see it ... 316 P Mac 29-Aug-07 00:02
Re: One major problem as I see it ... 246 magisterchessmutt 29-Aug-07 00:25
Re: One major problem as I see it ... 319 Richard Essame 29-Aug-07 00:33
Re: One major problem as I see it ... 309 Ahatmose 29-Aug-07 02:39
Re: One major problem as I see it ... 313 Richard Essame 29-Aug-07 03:04
Re: One major problem as I see it ... 354 Ahatmose 29-Aug-07 03:15
Re: One major problem as I see it ... 291 Richard Essame 29-Aug-07 05:24
Re: One major problem as I see it ... 239 Cesar 29-Aug-07 02:21
Re: One major problem as I see it ... 306 caugusto 29-Aug-07 04:40
Re: One major Solution? 296 Scott Creighton 29-Aug-07 09:56
Re: One major Solution? 353 Ahatmose 29-Aug-07 17:47
Re: One major Solution? 266 Richard Essame 30-Aug-07 00:16
Re: One major Solution? 306 Richard Essame 30-Aug-07 19:24
Re: One major Solution? 329 P Mac 31-Aug-07 12:44
Re: One major Solution? 284 Richard Essame 31-Aug-07 23:39
Re: One major Solution? 285 Scott Creighton 01-Sep-07 10:25
Re: One major Solution? 256 P Mac 01-Sep-07 16:13
Re: One major Solution? 300 P Mac 02-Sep-07 00:23
Re: One major Solution? 291 Ahatmose 02-Sep-07 01:50
Or another solution... 322 drew 29-Aug-07 21:35
Re: Or another solution... 257 Jackfrost 30-Aug-07 15:46
Re: Or another solution... 252 P Mac 30-Aug-07 16:39
Re: Or another solution... 297 Jackfrost 31-Aug-07 10:55
Re: Or another solution... 315 P Mac 31-Aug-07 16:01
Re: Or another solution... 322 Richard Essame 01-Sep-07 01:57


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