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Hi Ogypos,

You write: How can you be sure that 26.5 is the difference in tilt and not the original obliquety?

SC: First of all, I do not say 26.5* is the "difference in tilt" - I say it is the overall tilt from -3* to +23.5*.

Now let me offer up an answer to your question. I find it difficult enough accepting the orthodox view as to the causes of Ice Ages - particularly the last one where we find that the Cordilleran ice sheet that covered most of North America and Canada disappeared very rapidly. What you are asking me to accept is that the Cordilleran Ice Sheet was up to 3* further south with an axial tilt of 26.5* than it would have been with only our present axial tilt of 23.5*. You are are also asking me to accept that the Cordilleran Ice Sheet melted rapidly by being tilted up to 3* further towards the polar region! This is completely illogical and why Giza would also have been placed further north before the tilt - not further south as you would have it.

Quite simply, this great ice sheet vanished because it was pushed southwards OUT of what was previously the polar region - not northwards INTO it as your scenario would have it.

Ogypos: Could this all mean that the GP does not encode a global catastrophy but rather astronomic data?

SC: You are making the mistake so many others make by considering my work in complete isolation of all the other evidence that has been available for long enough and other scientific evidence which is only now emerging in support of it. Go through this very thread and you will find posts which cite references from the ancient Egyptians themselves who tell us the Earth tilted, the sky fell, the heavens moved. Consider all the myths from around the world that talk of this; the references in the Bible that talk of this. Is it so impossible for you to believe that these people did actually bear witness to just such a cataclysmic event as an axial tilt? So why not memorialise such a traumatic moment in the history of the world into a structure we now call the Great Pyramid of Khufu?

Regards,

SC


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Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 506 Scott Creighton 23-Aug-07 01:41
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 278 Ahatmose 23-Aug-07 03:10
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 311 Broker 23-Aug-07 04:15
Special Thanks to Gary Osborn 324 Scott Creighton 23-Aug-07 11:20
Re: Special Thanks to Gary Osborn 301 P Mac 23-Aug-07 12:17
Re: Special Thanks to Gary Osborn 343 Scott Creighton 23-Aug-07 19:34
Re: Special Thanks to Gary Osborn 387 Gary Osborn 23-Aug-07 14:10
Re: Special Thanks to Gary Osborn 331 Joyeuse 23-Aug-07 15:28
Re: Special Thanks to Gary Osborn 333 Scott Creighton 23-Aug-07 19:30
Re: Special Thanks to Gary Osborn 297 Joyeuse 23-Aug-07 21:15
Re: Special Thanks to Gary Osborn 351 Joyeuse 23-Aug-07 15:25
Re: Special Thanks to Gary Osborn 308 Gary Osborn 23-Aug-07 15:36
Re: Special Thanks to Gary Osborn 320 Joyeuse 23-Aug-07 16:16
Re: Special Thanks to Gary Osborn 325 Gary Osborn 23-Aug-07 16:22
Re: Special Thanks to Gary Osborn 334 Joyeuse 23-Aug-07 16:45
Re: Special Thanks to Gary Osborn 284 Gary Osborn 23-Aug-07 16:58
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 290 Scott Creighton 23-Aug-07 19:33
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 308 Broker 24-Aug-07 02:25
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 318 Kboldt 23-Aug-07 15:50
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 273 Gary Osborn 23-Aug-07 16:01
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 334 Kboldt 23-Aug-07 16:33
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 312 Gary Osborn 23-Aug-07 20:22
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 274 Kboldt 23-Aug-07 20:33
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 235 Dale Robert Lerch 24-Aug-07 08:36
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 289 P Mac 23-Aug-07 16:49
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 332 Scott Creighton 23-Aug-07 19:37
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 326 Gary Osborn 23-Aug-07 20:31
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 333 Kboldt 23-Aug-07 20:49
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 342 NetWorkAngel 24-Aug-07 20:54
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 314 Scott Creighton 24-Aug-07 21:04
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 205 NetWorkAngel 23-Aug-07 17:10
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 308 Kboldt 23-Aug-07 17:26
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 349 P Mac 23-Aug-07 17:35
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 236 Scott Creighton 23-Aug-07 19:40
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 290 Gary Osborn 23-Aug-07 20:08
A bit of clarification 292 Jon B 23-Aug-07 17:45
Re: A bit of clarification 250 Scott Creighton 23-Aug-07 20:00
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 352 Scott Creighton 23-Aug-07 20:50
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 370 mephisto 23-Aug-07 07:44
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 281 Scott Creighton 23-Aug-07 20:03
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 307 Gary Osborn 23-Aug-07 08:20
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 324 Scott Creighton 23-Aug-07 20:04
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 302 Gary Osborn 24-Aug-07 10:25
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 309 Gary Osborn 24-Aug-07 11:13
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 222 P Mac 24-Aug-07 11:55
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 318 Gary Osborn 24-Aug-07 13:26
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 351 Sirfiroth 24-Aug-07 14:52
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 310 Gary Osborn 24-Aug-07 15:02
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 333 Sirfiroth 25-Aug-07 03:42
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 271 Gary Osborn 26-Aug-07 12:21
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 266 P Mac 24-Aug-07 11:45
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 297 Gary Osborn 24-Aug-07 12:00
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 287 magisterchessmutt 24-Aug-07 12:23
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 326 Gary Osborn 24-Aug-07 14:10
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 316 Scott Creighton 24-Aug-07 18:21
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 276 Gary Osborn 24-Aug-07 19:18
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 344 Ghia 23-Aug-07 08:40
Wow! 415 Ghia 23-Aug-07 09:06
Re: Wow! 344 Scott Creighton 23-Aug-07 20:06
Re: Wow! 328 Jackfrost 24-Aug-07 16:09
Re: Wow! 291 Scott Creighton 24-Aug-07 16:49
Re: Wow! 336 Saravuth 26-Aug-07 02:35
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 185 Morph 23-Aug-07 09:07
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 306 Ghia 23-Aug-07 09:12
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 300 Morph 23-Aug-07 10:25
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 275 Joyeuse 23-Aug-07 16:58
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 327 mephisto 23-Aug-07 12:06
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 384 Ahatmose 23-Aug-07 12:57
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 324 Spiros 23-Aug-07 09:24
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 294 Morph 23-Aug-07 13:30
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 232 Gary Osborn 23-Aug-07 13:54
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 319 Gary Osborn 23-Aug-07 14:19
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 337 Morph 23-Aug-07 14:20
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 308 Ahatmose 23-Aug-07 13:56
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 307 Sirfiroth 23-Aug-07 13:31
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 261 Scott Creighton 23-Aug-07 20:09
More fully... 343 Morph 23-Aug-07 13:53
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 241 Ahatmose 23-Aug-07 14:08
Addendum: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 256 Ahatmose 23-Aug-07 14:19
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 314 Gary Osborn 23-Aug-07 23:48
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 299 Morph 23-Aug-07 14:13
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 364 drrayeye 23-Aug-07 14:47
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 298 Scott Creighton 23-Aug-07 20:18
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 420 drrayeye 24-Aug-07 14:28
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 290 Joyeuse 23-Aug-07 15:22
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 310 Ahatmose 23-Aug-07 15:29
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 270 Joyeuse 23-Aug-07 16:05
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 344 NetWorkAngel 23-Aug-07 17:16
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 349 Joyeuse 23-Aug-07 17:39
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 313 NetWorkAngel 23-Aug-07 17:45
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 284 Joyeuse 23-Aug-07 17:42
oops pls read "can't" instead of can N/T 348 Joyeuse 23-Aug-07 17:44
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 278 Scott Creighton 23-Aug-07 21:22
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 307 Dale Robert Lerch 24-Aug-07 09:06
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 264 Scott Creighton 24-Aug-07 13:46
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 253 Joe Atlantis 23-Aug-07 19:25
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 318 Scott Creighton 23-Aug-07 20:26
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 344 Warwick 24-Aug-07 17:34
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 367 Scott Creighton 24-Aug-07 17:42
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 300 Warwick 24-Aug-07 18:11
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 326 Kboldt 24-Aug-07 18:23
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 351 Warwick 24-Aug-07 18:38
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 347 Scott Creighton 24-Aug-07 18:39
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 315 Warwick 25-Aug-07 17:21
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 328 Scott Creighton 25-Aug-07 17:33
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 298 Warwick 25-Aug-07 17:44
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 348 Scott Creighton 25-Aug-07 17:57
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 299 Warwick 26-Aug-07 17:26
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 318 Broker 26-Aug-07 19:42
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 287 Scott Creighton 26-Aug-07 20:52
Moderator Note 342 Ghia 26-Aug-07 23:31
Re: Moderator Note 302 Warwick 29-Aug-07 16:49
Re: Moderator Note 351 Ahatmose 29-Aug-07 17:21
Re: Moderator Note 312 Warwick 01-Sep-07 18:28
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 235 Ahatmose 24-Aug-07 18:42
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 216 caugusto 24-Aug-07 21:34
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 290 Warwick 25-Aug-07 17:29
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 311 Kboldt 24-Aug-07 18:04
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 303 Gary Osborn 24-Aug-07 18:42
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 352 Scott Creighton 24-Aug-07 18:49
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 307 Kboldt 24-Aug-07 19:05
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 267 Ahatmose 24-Aug-07 19:19
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 301 Scott Creighton 24-Aug-07 19:29
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 298 Ahatmose 24-Aug-07 20:16
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 276 Gary Osborn 24-Aug-07 20:45
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 338 Scott Creighton 24-Aug-07 20:53
More Chills... 215 Ghia 25-Aug-07 00:21
Re: More Chills... 301 P Mac 25-Aug-07 11:12
Re: More Chills... 282 Scott Creighton 25-Aug-07 12:31
Re: More Chills... 150 P Mac 25-Aug-07 13:30
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 310 Kboldt 24-Aug-07 19:01
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 317 Gary Osborn 24-Aug-07 19:29
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 385 jnisbet 25-Aug-07 01:48
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 316 Scott Creighton 25-Aug-07 11:00
A shadow beyond the doubt 319 drew 25-Aug-07 03:06
Re: A shadow beyond the doubt 302 jnisbet 25-Aug-07 03:41
Re: A shadow beyond the doubt 373 drew 25-Aug-07 12:43
Re: A shadow beyond the doubt 305 P Mac 25-Aug-07 11:46
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 315 Saravuth 25-Aug-07 14:34
please explain 285 Spiros 25-Aug-07 14:40
Re: please explain 317 Mr. Hunter 25-Aug-07 15:48
Re: please explain 322 magisterchessmutt 26-Aug-07 00:17
Re: please explain 308 Scott Creighton 25-Aug-07 17:11
the solution? 313 Spiros 25-Aug-07 18:53
Re: the solution? 326 Scott Creighton 25-Aug-07 20:49
Re: the solution? 267 Spiros 25-Aug-07 21:50
Re: the solution? 306 Scott Creighton 25-Aug-07 22:11
Re: the solution? 272 Gary Osborn 26-Aug-07 00:23
Re: the solution? 285 Scott Creighton 26-Aug-07 01:21
Re: the solution? 284 Dale Robert Lerch 26-Aug-07 07:47
Re: the solution? 304 Gary Osborn 30-Aug-07 20:28
Re: the solution? 330 Gary Osborn 26-Aug-07 12:37
Re: the solution? 262 Spiros 27-Aug-07 19:18
Re: the solution? 304 Gary Osborn 27-Aug-07 19:23
Question remains unanswered ... at least to me. 327 Ahatmose 26-Aug-07 02:04
Re: Question remains unanswered ... at least to me. 322 Scott Creighton 26-Aug-07 20:05
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 340 Scott Creighton 25-Aug-07 17:17
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 262 magisterchessmutt 26-Aug-07 01:52
Testing and validating the Giza axial tilt theory 386 drrayeye 26-Aug-07 20:29
Re: Testing and validating the Giza axial tilt theory 246 Scott Creighton 27-Aug-07 17:43
Re: Testing and validating the Giza axial tilt theory 336 Ahatmose 27-Aug-07 17:54
Firestone 379 drrayeye 27-Aug-07 20:10
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 294 Richard Essame 27-Aug-07 02:59
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 326 Ghia 27-Aug-07 03:12
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 310 Richard Essame 27-Aug-07 06:38
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 264 magisterchessmutt 27-Aug-07 05:00
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 302 Richard Essame 27-Aug-07 06:04
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 320 magisterchessmutt 27-Aug-07 06:24
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 318 Richard Essame 27-Aug-07 07:12
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 338 Ahatmose 27-Aug-07 14:19
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 322 Scott Creighton 27-Aug-07 14:51
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 335 Ahatmose 27-Aug-07 16:02
Addendum ... 360 Ahatmose 27-Aug-07 16:31
Re: Addendum ... 331 Scott Creighton 27-Aug-07 16:49
Re: Addendum ... 288 Ahatmose 27-Aug-07 17:00
Re: Addendum ... 325 Scott Creighton 27-Aug-07 17:30
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 315 Richard Essame 27-Aug-07 19:28
This may help, Don 298 Cesar 27-Aug-07 22:18
Re: This may help, Don 311 Ghia 27-Aug-07 23:40
Re: This may help, Don 313 Scott Creighton 27-Aug-07 23:59
Re: This may help, Don 316 Cesar 28-Aug-07 02:40
Re: This may help, Don 288 Sirfiroth 28-Aug-07 02:51
Re: This may help, Don 295 Cesar 28-Aug-07 04:12
Re: This may help, Don 345 Sirfiroth 28-Aug-07 05:29
Re: This may help, Don 324 Ahatmose 28-Aug-07 02:15
Re: This may help, Don 347 Cesar 28-Aug-07 04:12
Re: This may help, Don 398 Scott Creighton 28-Aug-07 10:56
Re: This may help, Don 298 Cesar 28-Aug-07 21:44
The Impactor 268 Scott Creighton 28-Aug-07 22:17
Re: This may help, Don 239 Scott Creighton 29-Aug-07 11:38
Intriguing 353 Cesar 01-Sep-07 12:03
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 364 LonelyAngel 27-Aug-07 18:37
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 343 Scott Creighton 27-Aug-07 18:44
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 354 LonelyAngel 28-Aug-07 17:57
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 304 Deep1 28-Aug-07 18:52
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 291 LonelyAngel 29-Aug-07 20:38
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 289 Deep1 29-Aug-07 20:59
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 317 Ahatmose 29-Aug-07 21:23
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 299 LonelyAngel 30-Aug-07 16:24
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 329 Scott Creighton 30-Aug-07 17:02
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 308 LonelyAngel 30-Aug-07 17:43
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 274 Gary Osborn 30-Aug-07 20:01
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 314 Scott Creighton 30-Aug-07 21:17
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 310 Gary Osborn 30-Aug-07 21:44
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 294 LonelyAngel 30-Aug-07 21:57
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 321 Gary Osborn 30-Aug-07 23:40
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 334 Morph 31-Aug-07 11:39
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 313 Scott Creighton 28-Aug-07 18:55
One major problem as I see it ... 281 Ahatmose 28-Aug-07 23:07
Re: One major problem as I see it ... 331 P Mac 29-Aug-07 00:02
Re: One major problem as I see it ... 258 magisterchessmutt 29-Aug-07 00:25
Re: One major problem as I see it ... 331 Richard Essame 29-Aug-07 00:33
Re: One major problem as I see it ... 323 Ahatmose 29-Aug-07 02:39
Re: One major problem as I see it ... 317 Richard Essame 29-Aug-07 03:04
Re: One major problem as I see it ... 361 Ahatmose 29-Aug-07 03:15
Re: One major problem as I see it ... 307 Richard Essame 29-Aug-07 05:24
Re: One major problem as I see it ... 252 Cesar 29-Aug-07 02:21
Re: One major problem as I see it ... 320 caugusto 29-Aug-07 04:40
Re: One major Solution? 309 Scott Creighton 29-Aug-07 09:56
Re: One major Solution? 366 Ahatmose 29-Aug-07 17:47
Re: One major Solution? 278 Richard Essame 30-Aug-07 00:16
Re: One major Solution? 322 Richard Essame 30-Aug-07 19:24
Re: One major Solution? 345 P Mac 31-Aug-07 12:44
Re: One major Solution? 302 Richard Essame 31-Aug-07 23:39
Re: One major Solution? 299 Scott Creighton 01-Sep-07 10:25
Re: One major Solution? 270 P Mac 01-Sep-07 16:13
Re: One major Solution? 315 P Mac 02-Sep-07 00:23
Re: One major Solution? 304 Ahatmose 02-Sep-07 01:50
Or another solution... 338 drew 29-Aug-07 21:35
Re: Or another solution... 270 Jackfrost 30-Aug-07 15:46
Re: Or another solution... 265 P Mac 30-Aug-07 16:39
Re: Or another solution... 303 Jackfrost 31-Aug-07 10:55
Re: Or another solution... 335 P Mac 31-Aug-07 16:01
Re: Or another solution... 336 Richard Essame 01-Sep-07 01:57


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