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A shadow beyond the doubt
Date: August 25, 2007 03:06AM
Being one with next to no experience with understanding a lot of what has been 'discovered' with your words and diagrams, there remains some questioning about your words and diagrams, and also that of others before you.
Such angles and directions of shafts and courses of masonry and height of this, that and the other surely does point to many questions which are contained within possibly one question: Why would such history be hidden with such a structure?
I have never been to Egypt, let alone the pyramids, and can imagine the sight of them as being very powerful. The pure size and shape of them would elicit such awe for a mere mortal that I truly would be amazed. But I am a mere mortal.
Walking within them also would be flabbergasting to me.
But I can imagine...if I were more than a mere mortal...
IMAGINE: Does the shape of its skin exude hidden secrets that only I - or the very few - could decipher? The angle of its rising from the ground to its apex: a key to some secret?
The courses of masonry: another secret?
The directions the four sides face: a secret?
Ah, but this is the outside...what of the inside??
Chambers and shafts and corridors and such...Would I, being able to walk them without hindrance, know exactly where things stood and directions they faced and positions they were in, in relation to other chambers and shafts and corridors. Would I, walking within, know that this secret shaft, hidden behind a facade of a wall, pointed to a certain star which was in correlation to another secret shaft behind a facade of wall?
Would I know the angle this chamber rose as being in relation to some historical event?
The size of this room as being some historical event?
The position of this mighty chamber in relation to the position of this lesser mighty chamber meant another historical event?
How would I know any of this if I was inside and could not see through walls to determine the positions of anything within the entirety, when all I could determine is the imediate surrounds...and quite possibly the number of steps I took in getting from one place to another? First this direction, then that direction, then this and that...
All theories regarding the pyramids are based upon our ability to map them precisely, using our techniques that can aid us in drawing a complete diagram of where everything lays in reference not only to the pyramid's own construction but also to its surroundings...from its location on the plateau; its location within Egypt; its location on the planet; and its location amid the stars.
If what any of these theories are alluding to is correct, then what we are faced with is truly only one of two possibilities:
1/ Once upon a time, there were humans who overcame the physical and could mentally project themselves anywhere...could overcome the barriers of the physical. Such a structure as the pyramid would show one such a history because one could access the entirety as if its construction was of glass. Such secrets would always be readily available to those with this ability, and history would never be lost.
2/ They knew that a time would come when its secrets would be unveiled because of the intelligence that would eventuate to unveil them: to survey the entirety, both within and without, down to mere fractions of inches and seconds of angles...to align shafts to stars, and rediscover earth-tilts and era lengths...to decode mathematical equations into historical events of the past, present (at the time of construction) and future.
Ah, but if there is a code within and of the pyramid, where would we be now if the lost manuscripts of * (I cannot think of him now but his writings were uncovered within a lost-then-found bible, overwritten of his works with the words of religion; an ancient Greek mathematician I think, whereby modern day thinkers imagine that we would be at least two thousand years ahead of where we are now if his writings were not hidden and lost). Where would we be if the secrets of the pyramids were rediscovered even five hundred years ago?
There are really only two explantaions for what the pyramids hide: to reveal to those who were able to know at the time; and to reveal to those who could 'see' in our own time. The trick is, should our own time have occured many hundreds of years ago, rather than now?
Does the pyramid hide this within it?
I will continue to enjoy the paths that man treads in finding the new from the old.
Drew
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Sirfiroth
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28-Aug-07 05:29 |
     
Re: This may help, Don
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Ahatmose
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28-Aug-07 02:15 |
      
Re: This may help, Don
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Cesar
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28-Aug-07 04:12 |
       
Re: This may help, Don
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Scott Creighton
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28-Aug-07 10:56 |
        
Re: This may help, Don
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Cesar
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28-Aug-07 21:44 |
         
The Impactor
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Scott Creighton
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28-Aug-07 22:17 |
     
Re: This may help, Don
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Scott Creighton
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29-Aug-07 11:38 |
      
Intriguing
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Cesar
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01-Sep-07 12:03 |

Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory
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LonelyAngel
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27-Aug-07 18:37 |
 
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory
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Scott Creighton
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27-Aug-07 18:44 |
  
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory
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LonelyAngel
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28-Aug-07 17:57 |
   
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory
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Deep1
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28-Aug-07 18:52 |
    
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory
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LonelyAngel
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29-Aug-07 20:38 |
     
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory
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Deep1
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29-Aug-07 20:59 |
      
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory
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Ahatmose
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29-Aug-07 21:23 |
       
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory
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LonelyAngel
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30-Aug-07 16:24 |
        
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory
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Scott Creighton
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30-Aug-07 17:02 |
         
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory
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LonelyAngel
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30-Aug-07 17:43 |
          
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory
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Gary Osborn
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30-Aug-07 20:01 |
          
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory
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Scott Creighton
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30-Aug-07 21:17 |
           
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory
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Gary Osborn
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30-Aug-07 21:44 |
           
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory
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LonelyAngel
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30-Aug-07 21:57 |
            
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory
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Gary Osborn
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30-Aug-07 23:40 |
           
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory
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319 |
Morph
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31-Aug-07 11:39 |
   
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory
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Scott Creighton
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28-Aug-07 18:55 |

One major problem as I see it ...
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Ahatmose
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28-Aug-07 23:07 |
 
Re: One major problem as I see it ...
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P Mac
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29-Aug-07 00:02 |
 
Re: One major problem as I see it ...
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magisterchessmutt
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29-Aug-07 00:25 |
 
Re: One major problem as I see it ...
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319 |
Richard Essame
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29-Aug-07 00:33 |
  
Re: One major problem as I see it ...
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Ahatmose
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29-Aug-07 02:39 |
   
Re: One major problem as I see it ...
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Richard Essame
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29-Aug-07 03:04 |
    
Re: One major problem as I see it ...
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Ahatmose
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29-Aug-07 03:15 |
     
Re: One major problem as I see it ...
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291 |
Richard Essame
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29-Aug-07 05:24 |
 
Re: One major problem as I see it ...
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Cesar
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29-Aug-07 02:21 |
 
Re: One major problem as I see it ...
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caugusto
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29-Aug-07 04:40 |
 
Re: One major Solution?
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Scott Creighton
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29-Aug-07 09:56 |
  
Re: One major Solution?
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Ahatmose
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29-Aug-07 17:47 |
   
Re: One major Solution?
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Richard Essame
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30-Aug-07 00:16 |
   
Re: One major Solution?
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306 |
Richard Essame
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30-Aug-07 19:24 |
    
Re: One major Solution?
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329 |
P Mac
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31-Aug-07 12:44 |
     
Re: One major Solution?
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284 |
Richard Essame
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31-Aug-07 23:39 |
      
Re: One major Solution?
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285 |
Scott Creighton
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01-Sep-07 10:25 |
       
Re: One major Solution?
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P Mac
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01-Sep-07 16:13 |
       
Re: One major Solution?
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P Mac
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02-Sep-07 00:23 |
        
Re: One major Solution?
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Ahatmose
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02-Sep-07 01:50 |

Or another solution...
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drew
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29-Aug-07 21:35 |
 
Re: Or another solution...
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Jackfrost
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30-Aug-07 15:46 |
  
Re: Or another solution...
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P Mac
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30-Aug-07 16:39 |
   
Re: Or another solution...
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297 |
Jackfrost
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31-Aug-07 10:55 |
    
Re: Or another solution...
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315 |
P Mac
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31-Aug-07 16:01 |
     
Re: Or another solution...
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322 |
Richard Essame
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01-Sep-07 01:57 |