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Hi Kim,

You quote:

Genesis 8:22 "While the earth remaineth, seedtime and harvest, and cold and heat, and summer and winter, and day and night shall not cease."

. . . and write:

"Obviously there was a change when the 4 seasons had now come into being".




From 'Pyramid is Giant Farming Clock'.

John Harlow, Los Angeles.

[www.timesonline.co.uk]

Extract:

"On a barren hillside just north of Lima, he had found an observatory more than 4,000 years old that had been built by a lost civilisation with astonishing sophistication.
"The oldest astronomical observatory in the Americas, it told farmers exactly when to sow their crops. Its discovery has provided startling clues to the way in which early man learnt to cultivate his fields".

G.O.
Some researchers have put forward evidence that the Deluge was related to the tilt of the earth’s axis - or that it was believed it was. If so, then afterwards man had to learn agricultural skills in sync with the newly acquired seasons, and this scenario is suggested in Joscelyn Godwin’s book Arktos.
Godwin quotes Jean Jacques Rousseau (1712–1778) who believed that the earth’s axis tilted from the vertical in one fell swoop – bringing an end to the “Golden Age” and initiating the cycle of the seasons, therefore forcing man to measure time by the stars, the natural celestial markers of time, and learn the necessary agricultural skills needed for his own survival.

‘In the Golden Age, “Time” in all its plenitude was closer to Eternity than to duration. On coming out of paradise, we fell into time, and our ongoing flight is merely our Fall, gradually accelerating. Our measuring instruments are the signs of our anguish. A being that lives in harmony with the environment in which it flourishes has no need for a wrist watch: the courses of the stars are enough. It experiences growing old only as a happy ripening; it participates in the music of the spheres’.

So, could it be that the pyramids and these stone circles and other similar temples were also set up to measure time? and for both agricultural and religious/ritual/magic reasons? Its an interesting hypothesis.

The book Uriel's Machine by Christopher Knight and Robert Lomas now comes to mind. In the 'Book of Enoch', we are told that Enoch was taken to different location around the earth by the Angels (Shining Ones) and shown these devices (circles and standing stones - hence the title "Uriel's Machine") that measured the Solstices and Equinoxes? Surely this would have been implemented to mark time after the earth tilted and man fell into the cycles of time.

Best,
Gary

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Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 508 Scott Creighton 23-Aug-07 01:41
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 279 Ahatmose 23-Aug-07 03:10
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 312 Broker 23-Aug-07 04:15
Special Thanks to Gary Osborn 325 Scott Creighton 23-Aug-07 11:20
Re: Special Thanks to Gary Osborn 303 P Mac 23-Aug-07 12:17
Re: Special Thanks to Gary Osborn 344 Scott Creighton 23-Aug-07 19:34
Re: Special Thanks to Gary Osborn 388 Gary Osborn 23-Aug-07 14:10
Re: Special Thanks to Gary Osborn 334 Joyeuse 23-Aug-07 15:28
Re: Special Thanks to Gary Osborn 334 Scott Creighton 23-Aug-07 19:30
Re: Special Thanks to Gary Osborn 299 Joyeuse 23-Aug-07 21:15
Re: Special Thanks to Gary Osborn 352 Joyeuse 23-Aug-07 15:25
Re: Special Thanks to Gary Osborn 309 Gary Osborn 23-Aug-07 15:36
Re: Special Thanks to Gary Osborn 322 Joyeuse 23-Aug-07 16:16
Re: Special Thanks to Gary Osborn 326 Gary Osborn 23-Aug-07 16:22
Re: Special Thanks to Gary Osborn 336 Joyeuse 23-Aug-07 16:45
Re: Special Thanks to Gary Osborn 285 Gary Osborn 23-Aug-07 16:58
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 291 Scott Creighton 23-Aug-07 19:33
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 309 Broker 24-Aug-07 02:25
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 319 Kboldt 23-Aug-07 15:50
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 274 Gary Osborn 23-Aug-07 16:01
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 335 Kboldt 23-Aug-07 16:33
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 313 Gary Osborn 23-Aug-07 20:22
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 275 Kboldt 23-Aug-07 20:33
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 237 Dale Robert Lerch 24-Aug-07 08:36
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 289 P Mac 23-Aug-07 16:49
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 332 Scott Creighton 23-Aug-07 19:37
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 327 Gary Osborn 23-Aug-07 20:31
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 336 Kboldt 23-Aug-07 20:49
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 345 NetWorkAngel 24-Aug-07 20:54
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 315 Scott Creighton 24-Aug-07 21:04
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 206 NetWorkAngel 23-Aug-07 17:10
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 310 Kboldt 23-Aug-07 17:26
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 350 P Mac 23-Aug-07 17:35
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 238 Scott Creighton 23-Aug-07 19:40
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 293 Gary Osborn 23-Aug-07 20:08
A bit of clarification 292 Jon B 23-Aug-07 17:45
Re: A bit of clarification 251 Scott Creighton 23-Aug-07 20:00
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 353 Scott Creighton 23-Aug-07 20:50
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 373 mephisto 23-Aug-07 07:44
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 282 Scott Creighton 23-Aug-07 20:03
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 308 Gary Osborn 23-Aug-07 08:20
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 326 Scott Creighton 23-Aug-07 20:04
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 303 Gary Osborn 24-Aug-07 10:25
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 311 Gary Osborn 24-Aug-07 11:13
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 225 P Mac 24-Aug-07 11:55
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 319 Gary Osborn 24-Aug-07 13:26
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 352 Sirfiroth 24-Aug-07 14:52
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 311 Gary Osborn 24-Aug-07 15:02
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 335 Sirfiroth 25-Aug-07 03:42
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 272 Gary Osborn 26-Aug-07 12:21
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 266 P Mac 24-Aug-07 11:45
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 297 Gary Osborn 24-Aug-07 12:00
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 288 magisterchessmutt 24-Aug-07 12:23
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 328 Gary Osborn 24-Aug-07 14:10
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 317 Scott Creighton 24-Aug-07 18:21
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 277 Gary Osborn 24-Aug-07 19:18
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 346 Ghia 23-Aug-07 08:40
Wow! 416 Ghia 23-Aug-07 09:06
Re: Wow! 344 Scott Creighton 23-Aug-07 20:06
Re: Wow! 329 Jackfrost 24-Aug-07 16:09
Re: Wow! 292 Scott Creighton 24-Aug-07 16:49
Re: Wow! 339 Saravuth 26-Aug-07 02:35
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 187 Morph 23-Aug-07 09:07
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 307 Ghia 23-Aug-07 09:12
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 303 Morph 23-Aug-07 10:25
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 276 Joyeuse 23-Aug-07 16:58
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 328 mephisto 23-Aug-07 12:06
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 385 Ahatmose 23-Aug-07 12:57
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 325 Spiros 23-Aug-07 09:24
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 295 Morph 23-Aug-07 13:30
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 233 Gary Osborn 23-Aug-07 13:54
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 321 Gary Osborn 23-Aug-07 14:19
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 337 Morph 23-Aug-07 14:20
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 308 Ahatmose 23-Aug-07 13:56
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 308 Sirfiroth 23-Aug-07 13:31
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 262 Scott Creighton 23-Aug-07 20:09
More fully... 346 Morph 23-Aug-07 13:53
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 243 Ahatmose 23-Aug-07 14:08
Addendum: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 257 Ahatmose 23-Aug-07 14:19
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 315 Gary Osborn 23-Aug-07 23:48
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 300 Morph 23-Aug-07 14:13
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 365 drrayeye 23-Aug-07 14:47
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 299 Scott Creighton 23-Aug-07 20:18
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 420 drrayeye 24-Aug-07 14:28
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 293 Joyeuse 23-Aug-07 15:22
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 314 Ahatmose 23-Aug-07 15:29
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 271 Joyeuse 23-Aug-07 16:05
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 345 NetWorkAngel 23-Aug-07 17:16
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 351 Joyeuse 23-Aug-07 17:39
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 316 NetWorkAngel 23-Aug-07 17:45
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 287 Joyeuse 23-Aug-07 17:42
oops pls read "can't" instead of can N/T 350 Joyeuse 23-Aug-07 17:44
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 278 Scott Creighton 23-Aug-07 21:22
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 308 Dale Robert Lerch 24-Aug-07 09:06
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 267 Scott Creighton 24-Aug-07 13:46
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 253 Joe Atlantis 23-Aug-07 19:25
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 320 Scott Creighton 23-Aug-07 20:26
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 344 Warwick 24-Aug-07 17:34
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 368 Scott Creighton 24-Aug-07 17:42
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 302 Warwick 24-Aug-07 18:11
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 328 Kboldt 24-Aug-07 18:23
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 352 Warwick 24-Aug-07 18:38
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 348 Scott Creighton 24-Aug-07 18:39
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 316 Warwick 25-Aug-07 17:21
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 329 Scott Creighton 25-Aug-07 17:33
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 299 Warwick 25-Aug-07 17:44
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 349 Scott Creighton 25-Aug-07 17:57
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 300 Warwick 26-Aug-07 17:26
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 318 Broker 26-Aug-07 19:42
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 289 Scott Creighton 26-Aug-07 20:52
Moderator Note 342 Ghia 26-Aug-07 23:31
Re: Moderator Note 304 Warwick 29-Aug-07 16:49
Re: Moderator Note 352 Ahatmose 29-Aug-07 17:21
Re: Moderator Note 312 Warwick 01-Sep-07 18:28
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 237 Ahatmose 24-Aug-07 18:42
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 216 caugusto 24-Aug-07 21:34
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 291 Warwick 25-Aug-07 17:29
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 311 Kboldt 24-Aug-07 18:04
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 307 Gary Osborn 24-Aug-07 18:42
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 353 Scott Creighton 24-Aug-07 18:49
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 308 Kboldt 24-Aug-07 19:05
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 267 Ahatmose 24-Aug-07 19:19
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 302 Scott Creighton 24-Aug-07 19:29
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 299 Ahatmose 24-Aug-07 20:16
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 277 Gary Osborn 24-Aug-07 20:45
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 339 Scott Creighton 24-Aug-07 20:53
More Chills... 216 Ghia 25-Aug-07 00:21
Re: More Chills... 303 P Mac 25-Aug-07 11:12
Re: More Chills... 283 Scott Creighton 25-Aug-07 12:31
Re: More Chills... 151 P Mac 25-Aug-07 13:30
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 311 Kboldt 24-Aug-07 19:01
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 320 Gary Osborn 24-Aug-07 19:29
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 387 jnisbet 25-Aug-07 01:48
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 318 Scott Creighton 25-Aug-07 11:00
A shadow beyond the doubt 320 drew 25-Aug-07 03:06
Re: A shadow beyond the doubt 304 jnisbet 25-Aug-07 03:41
Re: A shadow beyond the doubt 375 drew 25-Aug-07 12:43
Re: A shadow beyond the doubt 306 P Mac 25-Aug-07 11:46
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 318 Saravuth 25-Aug-07 14:34
please explain 286 Spiros 25-Aug-07 14:40
Re: please explain 317 Mr. Hunter 25-Aug-07 15:48
Re: please explain 327 magisterchessmutt 26-Aug-07 00:17
Re: please explain 309 Scott Creighton 25-Aug-07 17:11
the solution? 314 Spiros 25-Aug-07 18:53
Re: the solution? 328 Scott Creighton 25-Aug-07 20:49
Re: the solution? 269 Spiros 25-Aug-07 21:50
Re: the solution? 307 Scott Creighton 25-Aug-07 22:11
Re: the solution? 273 Gary Osborn 26-Aug-07 00:23
Re: the solution? 285 Scott Creighton 26-Aug-07 01:21
Re: the solution? 285 Dale Robert Lerch 26-Aug-07 07:47
Re: the solution? 305 Gary Osborn 30-Aug-07 20:28
Re: the solution? 333 Gary Osborn 26-Aug-07 12:37
Re: the solution? 263 Spiros 27-Aug-07 19:18
Re: the solution? 306 Gary Osborn 27-Aug-07 19:23
Question remains unanswered ... at least to me. 328 Ahatmose 26-Aug-07 02:04
Re: Question remains unanswered ... at least to me. 322 Scott Creighton 26-Aug-07 20:05
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 342 Scott Creighton 25-Aug-07 17:17
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 263 magisterchessmutt 26-Aug-07 01:52
Testing and validating the Giza axial tilt theory 388 drrayeye 26-Aug-07 20:29
Re: Testing and validating the Giza axial tilt theory 247 Scott Creighton 27-Aug-07 17:43
Re: Testing and validating the Giza axial tilt theory 336 Ahatmose 27-Aug-07 17:54
Firestone 382 drrayeye 27-Aug-07 20:10
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 295 Richard Essame 27-Aug-07 02:59
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 329 Ghia 27-Aug-07 03:12
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 311 Richard Essame 27-Aug-07 06:38
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 266 magisterchessmutt 27-Aug-07 05:00
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 304 Richard Essame 27-Aug-07 06:04
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 321 magisterchessmutt 27-Aug-07 06:24
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 319 Richard Essame 27-Aug-07 07:12
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 339 Ahatmose 27-Aug-07 14:19
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 323 Scott Creighton 27-Aug-07 14:51
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 336 Ahatmose 27-Aug-07 16:02
Addendum ... 361 Ahatmose 27-Aug-07 16:31
Re: Addendum ... 332 Scott Creighton 27-Aug-07 16:49
Re: Addendum ... 288 Ahatmose 27-Aug-07 17:00
Re: Addendum ... 326 Scott Creighton 27-Aug-07 17:30
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 317 Richard Essame 27-Aug-07 19:28
This may help, Don 299 Cesar 27-Aug-07 22:18
Re: This may help, Don 311 Ghia 27-Aug-07 23:40
Re: This may help, Don 314 Scott Creighton 27-Aug-07 23:59
Re: This may help, Don 318 Cesar 28-Aug-07 02:40
Re: This may help, Don 290 Sirfiroth 28-Aug-07 02:51
Re: This may help, Don 297 Cesar 28-Aug-07 04:12
Re: This may help, Don 346 Sirfiroth 28-Aug-07 05:29
Re: This may help, Don 326 Ahatmose 28-Aug-07 02:15
Re: This may help, Don 348 Cesar 28-Aug-07 04:12
Re: This may help, Don 402 Scott Creighton 28-Aug-07 10:56
Re: This may help, Don 300 Cesar 28-Aug-07 21:44
The Impactor 270 Scott Creighton 28-Aug-07 22:17
Re: This may help, Don 240 Scott Creighton 29-Aug-07 11:38
Intriguing 355 Cesar 01-Sep-07 12:03
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 364 LonelyAngel 27-Aug-07 18:37
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 344 Scott Creighton 27-Aug-07 18:44
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 355 LonelyAngel 28-Aug-07 17:57
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 305 Deep1 28-Aug-07 18:52
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 292 LonelyAngel 29-Aug-07 20:38
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 291 Deep1 29-Aug-07 20:59
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 319 Ahatmose 29-Aug-07 21:23
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 300 LonelyAngel 30-Aug-07 16:24
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 330 Scott Creighton 30-Aug-07 17:02
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 311 LonelyAngel 30-Aug-07 17:43
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 276 Gary Osborn 30-Aug-07 20:01
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 315 Scott Creighton 30-Aug-07 21:17
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 310 Gary Osborn 30-Aug-07 21:44
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 296 LonelyAngel 30-Aug-07 21:57
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 322 Gary Osborn 30-Aug-07 23:40
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 334 Morph 31-Aug-07 11:39
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 314 Scott Creighton 28-Aug-07 18:55
One major problem as I see it ... 282 Ahatmose 28-Aug-07 23:07
Re: One major problem as I see it ... 332 P Mac 29-Aug-07 00:02
Re: One major problem as I see it ... 260 magisterchessmutt 29-Aug-07 00:25
Re: One major problem as I see it ... 332 Richard Essame 29-Aug-07 00:33
Re: One major problem as I see it ... 324 Ahatmose 29-Aug-07 02:39
Re: One major problem as I see it ... 317 Richard Essame 29-Aug-07 03:04
Re: One major problem as I see it ... 361 Ahatmose 29-Aug-07 03:15
Re: One major problem as I see it ... 309 Richard Essame 29-Aug-07 05:24
Re: One major problem as I see it ... 253 Cesar 29-Aug-07 02:21
Re: One major problem as I see it ... 322 caugusto 29-Aug-07 04:40
Re: One major Solution? 309 Scott Creighton 29-Aug-07 09:56
Re: One major Solution? 367 Ahatmose 29-Aug-07 17:47
Re: One major Solution? 279 Richard Essame 30-Aug-07 00:16
Re: One major Solution? 323 Richard Essame 30-Aug-07 19:24
Re: One major Solution? 345 P Mac 31-Aug-07 12:44
Re: One major Solution? 305 Richard Essame 31-Aug-07 23:39
Re: One major Solution? 300 Scott Creighton 01-Sep-07 10:25
Re: One major Solution? 271 P Mac 01-Sep-07 16:13
Re: One major Solution? 315 P Mac 02-Sep-07 00:23
Re: One major Solution? 306 Ahatmose 02-Sep-07 01:50
Or another solution... 338 drew 29-Aug-07 21:35
Re: Or another solution... 272 Jackfrost 30-Aug-07 15:46
Re: Or another solution... 266 P Mac 30-Aug-07 16:39
Re: Or another solution... 303 Jackfrost 31-Aug-07 10:55
Re: Or another solution... 336 P Mac 31-Aug-07 16:01
Re: Or another solution... 336 Richard Essame 01-Sep-07 01:57


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