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Hi Kim,

You quote:

Genesis 8:22 "While the earth remaineth, seedtime and harvest, and cold and heat, and summer and winter, and day and night shall not cease."

. . . and write:

"Obviously there was a change when the 4 seasons had now come into being".




From 'Pyramid is Giant Farming Clock'.

John Harlow, Los Angeles.

[www.timesonline.co.uk]

Extract:

"On a barren hillside just north of Lima, he had found an observatory more than 4,000 years old that had been built by a lost civilisation with astonishing sophistication.
"The oldest astronomical observatory in the Americas, it told farmers exactly when to sow their crops. Its discovery has provided startling clues to the way in which early man learnt to cultivate his fields".

G.O.
Some researchers have put forward evidence that the Deluge was related to the tilt of the earth’s axis - or that it was believed it was. If so, then afterwards man had to learn agricultural skills in sync with the newly acquired seasons, and this scenario is suggested in Joscelyn Godwin’s book Arktos.
Godwin quotes Jean Jacques Rousseau (1712–1778) who believed that the earth’s axis tilted from the vertical in one fell swoop – bringing an end to the “Golden Age” and initiating the cycle of the seasons, therefore forcing man to measure time by the stars, the natural celestial markers of time, and learn the necessary agricultural skills needed for his own survival.

‘In the Golden Age, “Time” in all its plenitude was closer to Eternity than to duration. On coming out of paradise, we fell into time, and our ongoing flight is merely our Fall, gradually accelerating. Our measuring instruments are the signs of our anguish. A being that lives in harmony with the environment in which it flourishes has no need for a wrist watch: the courses of the stars are enough. It experiences growing old only as a happy ripening; it participates in the music of the spheres’.

So, could it be that the pyramids and these stone circles and other similar temples were also set up to measure time? and for both agricultural and religious/ritual/magic reasons? Its an interesting hypothesis.

The book Uriel's Machine by Christopher Knight and Robert Lomas now comes to mind. In the 'Book of Enoch', we are told that Enoch was taken to different location around the earth by the Angels (Shining Ones) and shown these devices (circles and standing stones - hence the title "Uriel's Machine") that measured the Solstices and Equinoxes? Surely this would have been implemented to mark time after the earth tilted and man fell into the cycles of time.

Best,
Gary

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Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 567 Scott Creighton 23-Aug-07 01:41
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 308 Ahatmose 23-Aug-07 03:10
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 333 Broker 23-Aug-07 04:15
Special Thanks to Gary Osborn 344 Scott Creighton 23-Aug-07 11:20
Re: Special Thanks to Gary Osborn 330 P Mac 23-Aug-07 12:17
Re: Special Thanks to Gary Osborn 371 Scott Creighton 23-Aug-07 19:34
Re: Special Thanks to Gary Osborn 412 Gary Osborn 23-Aug-07 14:10
Re: Special Thanks to Gary Osborn 357 Joyeuse 23-Aug-07 15:28
Re: Special Thanks to Gary Osborn 358 Scott Creighton 23-Aug-07 19:30
Re: Special Thanks to Gary Osborn 327 Joyeuse 23-Aug-07 21:15
Re: Special Thanks to Gary Osborn 375 Joyeuse 23-Aug-07 15:25
Re: Special Thanks to Gary Osborn 336 Gary Osborn 23-Aug-07 15:36
Re: Special Thanks to Gary Osborn 347 Joyeuse 23-Aug-07 16:16
Re: Special Thanks to Gary Osborn 351 Gary Osborn 23-Aug-07 16:22
Re: Special Thanks to Gary Osborn 360 Joyeuse 23-Aug-07 16:45
Re: Special Thanks to Gary Osborn 305 Gary Osborn 23-Aug-07 16:58
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 314 Scott Creighton 23-Aug-07 19:33
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 338 Broker 24-Aug-07 02:25
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 348 Kboldt 23-Aug-07 15:50
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 302 Gary Osborn 23-Aug-07 16:01
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 370 Kboldt 23-Aug-07 16:33
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 356 Gary Osborn 23-Aug-07 20:22
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 310 Kboldt 23-Aug-07 20:33
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 261 Dale Robert Lerch 24-Aug-07 08:36
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 311 P Mac 23-Aug-07 16:49
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 357 Scott Creighton 23-Aug-07 19:37
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 352 Gary Osborn 23-Aug-07 20:31
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 361 Kboldt 23-Aug-07 20:49
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 374 NetWorkAngel 24-Aug-07 20:54
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 343 Scott Creighton 24-Aug-07 21:04
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 230 NetWorkAngel 23-Aug-07 17:10
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 339 Kboldt 23-Aug-07 17:26
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 376 P Mac 23-Aug-07 17:35
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 273 Scott Creighton 23-Aug-07 19:40
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 338 Gary Osborn 23-Aug-07 20:08
A bit of clarification 315 Jon B 23-Aug-07 17:45
Re: A bit of clarification 277 Scott Creighton 23-Aug-07 20:00
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 374 Scott Creighton 23-Aug-07 20:50
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 397 mephisto 23-Aug-07 07:44
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 306 Scott Creighton 23-Aug-07 20:03
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 334 Gary Osborn 23-Aug-07 08:20
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 348 Scott Creighton 23-Aug-07 20:04
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 333 Gary Osborn 24-Aug-07 10:25
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 355 Gary Osborn 24-Aug-07 11:13
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 245 P Mac 24-Aug-07 11:55
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 344 Gary Osborn 24-Aug-07 13:26
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 386 Sirfiroth 24-Aug-07 14:52
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 332 Gary Osborn 24-Aug-07 15:02
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 367 Sirfiroth 25-Aug-07 03:42
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 306 Gary Osborn 26-Aug-07 12:21
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 286 P Mac 24-Aug-07 11:45
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 316 Gary Osborn 24-Aug-07 12:00
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 330 magisterchessmutt 24-Aug-07 12:23
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 358 Gary Osborn 24-Aug-07 14:10
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 343 Scott Creighton 24-Aug-07 18:21
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 303 Gary Osborn 24-Aug-07 19:18
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 372 Ghia 23-Aug-07 08:40
Wow! 451 Ghia 23-Aug-07 09:06
Re: Wow! 368 Scott Creighton 23-Aug-07 20:06
Re: Wow! 351 Jackfrost 24-Aug-07 16:09
Re: Wow! 329 Scott Creighton 24-Aug-07 16:49
Re: Wow! 365 Saravuth 26-Aug-07 02:35
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 208 Morph 23-Aug-07 09:07
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 332 Ghia 23-Aug-07 09:12
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 323 Morph 23-Aug-07 10:25
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 299 Joyeuse 23-Aug-07 16:58
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 360 mephisto 23-Aug-07 12:06
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 416 Ahatmose 23-Aug-07 12:57
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 348 Spiros 23-Aug-07 09:24
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 331 Morph 23-Aug-07 13:30
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 256 Gary Osborn 23-Aug-07 13:54
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 346 Gary Osborn 23-Aug-07 14:19
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 361 Morph 23-Aug-07 14:20
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 331 Ahatmose 23-Aug-07 13:56
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 329 Sirfiroth 23-Aug-07 13:31
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 286 Scott Creighton 23-Aug-07 20:09
More fully... 372 Morph 23-Aug-07 13:53
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 267 Ahatmose 23-Aug-07 14:08
Addendum: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 278 Ahatmose 23-Aug-07 14:19
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 341 Gary Osborn 23-Aug-07 23:48
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 329 Morph 23-Aug-07 14:13
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 389 drrayeye 23-Aug-07 14:47
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 328 Scott Creighton 23-Aug-07 20:18
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 451 drrayeye 24-Aug-07 14:28
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 328 Joyeuse 23-Aug-07 15:22
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 340 Ahatmose 23-Aug-07 15:29
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 305 Joyeuse 23-Aug-07 16:05
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 369 NetWorkAngel 23-Aug-07 17:16
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 373 Joyeuse 23-Aug-07 17:39
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 348 NetWorkAngel 23-Aug-07 17:45
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 308 Joyeuse 23-Aug-07 17:42
oops pls read "can't" instead of can N/T 372 Joyeuse 23-Aug-07 17:44
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 302 Scott Creighton 23-Aug-07 21:22
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 332 Dale Robert Lerch 24-Aug-07 09:06
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 297 Scott Creighton 24-Aug-07 13:46
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 282 Joe Atlantis 23-Aug-07 19:25
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 346 Scott Creighton 23-Aug-07 20:26
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 373 Warwick 24-Aug-07 17:34
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 416 Scott Creighton 24-Aug-07 17:42
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 324 Warwick 24-Aug-07 18:11
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 351 Kboldt 24-Aug-07 18:23
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 376 Warwick 24-Aug-07 18:38
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 380 Scott Creighton 24-Aug-07 18:39
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 342 Warwick 25-Aug-07 17:21
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 352 Scott Creighton 25-Aug-07 17:33
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 322 Warwick 25-Aug-07 17:44
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 371 Scott Creighton 25-Aug-07 17:57
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 326 Warwick 26-Aug-07 17:26
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 340 Broker 26-Aug-07 19:42
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 332 Scott Creighton 26-Aug-07 20:52
Moderator Note 369 Ghia 26-Aug-07 23:31
Re: Moderator Note 338 Warwick 29-Aug-07 16:49
Re: Moderator Note 391 Ahatmose 29-Aug-07 17:21
Re: Moderator Note 333 Warwick 01-Sep-07 18:28
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 261 Ahatmose 24-Aug-07 18:42
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 234 caugusto 24-Aug-07 21:34
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 311 Warwick 25-Aug-07 17:29
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 349 Kboldt 24-Aug-07 18:04
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 332 Gary Osborn 24-Aug-07 18:42
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 390 Scott Creighton 24-Aug-07 18:49
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 338 Kboldt 24-Aug-07 19:05
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 287 Ahatmose 24-Aug-07 19:19
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 356 Scott Creighton 24-Aug-07 19:29
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 322 Ahatmose 24-Aug-07 20:16
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 302 Gary Osborn 24-Aug-07 20:45
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 361 Scott Creighton 24-Aug-07 20:53
More Chills... 263 Ghia 25-Aug-07 00:21
Re: More Chills... 326 P Mac 25-Aug-07 11:12
Re: More Chills... 308 Scott Creighton 25-Aug-07 12:31
Re: More Chills... 176 P Mac 25-Aug-07 13:30
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 338 Kboldt 24-Aug-07 19:01
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 354 Gary Osborn 24-Aug-07 19:29
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 412 jnisbet 25-Aug-07 01:48
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 344 Scott Creighton 25-Aug-07 11:00
A shadow beyond the doubt 362 drew 25-Aug-07 03:06
Re: A shadow beyond the doubt 331 jnisbet 25-Aug-07 03:41
Re: A shadow beyond the doubt 403 drew 25-Aug-07 12:43
Re: A shadow beyond the doubt 327 P Mac 25-Aug-07 11:46
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 356 Saravuth 25-Aug-07 14:34
please explain 312 Spiros 25-Aug-07 14:40
Re: please explain 338 Mr. Hunter 25-Aug-07 15:48
Re: please explain 347 magisterchessmutt 26-Aug-07 00:17
Re: please explain 338 Scott Creighton 25-Aug-07 17:11
the solution? 340 Spiros 25-Aug-07 18:53
Re: the solution? 362 Scott Creighton 25-Aug-07 20:49
Re: the solution? 299 Spiros 25-Aug-07 21:50
Re: the solution? 330 Scott Creighton 25-Aug-07 22:11
Re: the solution? 296 Gary Osborn 26-Aug-07 00:23
Re: the solution? 310 Scott Creighton 26-Aug-07 01:21
Re: the solution? 316 Dale Robert Lerch 26-Aug-07 07:47
Re: the solution? 340 Gary Osborn 30-Aug-07 20:28
Re: the solution? 354 Gary Osborn 26-Aug-07 12:37
Re: the solution? 287 Spiros 27-Aug-07 19:18
Re: the solution? 333 Gary Osborn 27-Aug-07 19:23
Question remains unanswered ... at least to me. 350 Ahatmose 26-Aug-07 02:04
Re: Question remains unanswered ... at least to me. 346 Scott Creighton 26-Aug-07 20:05
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 366 Scott Creighton 25-Aug-07 17:17
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 285 magisterchessmutt 26-Aug-07 01:52
Testing and validating the Giza axial tilt theory 412 drrayeye 26-Aug-07 20:29
Re: Testing and validating the Giza axial tilt theory 269 Scott Creighton 27-Aug-07 17:43
Re: Testing and validating the Giza axial tilt theory 361 Ahatmose 27-Aug-07 17:54
Firestone 408 drrayeye 27-Aug-07 20:10
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 316 Richard Essame 27-Aug-07 02:59
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 352 Ghia 27-Aug-07 03:12
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 333 Richard Essame 27-Aug-07 06:38
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 294 magisterchessmutt 27-Aug-07 05:00
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 330 Richard Essame 27-Aug-07 06:04
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 349 magisterchessmutt 27-Aug-07 06:24
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 342 Richard Essame 27-Aug-07 07:12
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 371 Ahatmose 27-Aug-07 14:19
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 343 Scott Creighton 27-Aug-07 14:51
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 363 Ahatmose 27-Aug-07 16:02
Addendum ... 388 Ahatmose 27-Aug-07 16:31
Re: Addendum ... 354 Scott Creighton 27-Aug-07 16:49
Re: Addendum ... 311 Ahatmose 27-Aug-07 17:00
Re: Addendum ... 349 Scott Creighton 27-Aug-07 17:30
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 342 Richard Essame 27-Aug-07 19:28
This may help, Don 325 Cesar 27-Aug-07 22:18
Re: This may help, Don 334 Ghia 27-Aug-07 23:40
Re: This may help, Don 356 Scott Creighton 27-Aug-07 23:59
Re: This may help, Don 344 Cesar 28-Aug-07 02:40
Re: This may help, Don 314 Sirfiroth 28-Aug-07 02:51
Re: This may help, Don 334 Cesar 28-Aug-07 04:12
Re: This may help, Don 378 Sirfiroth 28-Aug-07 05:29
Re: This may help, Don 354 Ahatmose 28-Aug-07 02:15
Re: This may help, Don 371 Cesar 28-Aug-07 04:12
Re: This may help, Don 424 Scott Creighton 28-Aug-07 10:56
Re: This may help, Don 326 Cesar 28-Aug-07 21:44
The Impactor 308 Scott Creighton 28-Aug-07 22:17
Re: This may help, Don 261 Scott Creighton 29-Aug-07 11:38
Intriguing 383 Cesar 01-Sep-07 12:03
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 410 LonelyAngel 27-Aug-07 18:37
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 366 Scott Creighton 27-Aug-07 18:44
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 378 LonelyAngel 28-Aug-07 17:57
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 328 Deep1 28-Aug-07 18:52
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 315 LonelyAngel 29-Aug-07 20:38
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 326 Deep1 29-Aug-07 20:59
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 343 Ahatmose 29-Aug-07 21:23
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 329 LonelyAngel 30-Aug-07 16:24
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 353 Scott Creighton 30-Aug-07 17:02
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 335 LonelyAngel 30-Aug-07 17:43
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 305 Gary Osborn 30-Aug-07 20:01
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 341 Scott Creighton 30-Aug-07 21:17
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 333 Gary Osborn 30-Aug-07 21:44
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 319 LonelyAngel 30-Aug-07 21:57
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 355 Gary Osborn 30-Aug-07 23:40
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 355 Morph 31-Aug-07 11:39
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 342 Scott Creighton 28-Aug-07 18:55
One major problem as I see it ... 307 Ahatmose 28-Aug-07 23:07
Re: One major problem as I see it ... 360 P Mac 29-Aug-07 00:02
Re: One major problem as I see it ... 290 magisterchessmutt 29-Aug-07 00:25
Re: One major problem as I see it ... 369 Richard Essame 29-Aug-07 00:33
Re: One major problem as I see it ... 348 Ahatmose 29-Aug-07 02:39
Re: One major problem as I see it ... 357 Richard Essame 29-Aug-07 03:04
Re: One major problem as I see it ... 385 Ahatmose 29-Aug-07 03:15
Re: One major problem as I see it ... 333 Richard Essame 29-Aug-07 05:24
Re: One major problem as I see it ... 276 Cesar 29-Aug-07 02:21
Re: One major problem as I see it ... 348 caugusto 29-Aug-07 04:40
Re: One major Solution? 334 Scott Creighton 29-Aug-07 09:56
Re: One major Solution? 391 Ahatmose 29-Aug-07 17:47
Re: One major Solution? 303 Richard Essame 30-Aug-07 00:16
Re: One major Solution? 349 Richard Essame 30-Aug-07 19:24
Re: One major Solution? 388 P Mac 31-Aug-07 12:44
Re: One major Solution? 328 Richard Essame 31-Aug-07 23:39
Re: One major Solution? 325 Scott Creighton 01-Sep-07 10:25
Re: One major Solution? 297 P Mac 01-Sep-07 16:13
Re: One major Solution? 338 P Mac 02-Sep-07 00:23
Re: One major Solution? 334 Ahatmose 02-Sep-07 01:50
Or another solution... 365 drew 29-Aug-07 21:35
Re: Or another solution... 290 Jackfrost 30-Aug-07 15:46
Re: Or another solution... 291 P Mac 30-Aug-07 16:39
Re: Or another solution... 340 Jackfrost 31-Aug-07 10:55
Re: Or another solution... 372 P Mac 31-Aug-07 16:01
Re: Or another solution... 356 Richard Essame 01-Sep-07 01:57


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