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Hi Kim,

You quote:

Genesis 8:22 "While the earth remaineth, seedtime and harvest, and cold and heat, and summer and winter, and day and night shall not cease."

. . . and write:

"Obviously there was a change when the 4 seasons had now come into being".




From 'Pyramid is Giant Farming Clock'.

John Harlow, Los Angeles.

[www.timesonline.co.uk]

Extract:

"On a barren hillside just north of Lima, he had found an observatory more than 4,000 years old that had been built by a lost civilisation with astonishing sophistication.
"The oldest astronomical observatory in the Americas, it told farmers exactly when to sow their crops. Its discovery has provided startling clues to the way in which early man learnt to cultivate his fields".

G.O.
Some researchers have put forward evidence that the Deluge was related to the tilt of the earth’s axis - or that it was believed it was. If so, then afterwards man had to learn agricultural skills in sync with the newly acquired seasons, and this scenario is suggested in Joscelyn Godwin’s book Arktos.
Godwin quotes Jean Jacques Rousseau (1712–1778) who believed that the earth’s axis tilted from the vertical in one fell swoop – bringing an end to the “Golden Age” and initiating the cycle of the seasons, therefore forcing man to measure time by the stars, the natural celestial markers of time, and learn the necessary agricultural skills needed for his own survival.

‘In the Golden Age, “Time” in all its plenitude was closer to Eternity than to duration. On coming out of paradise, we fell into time, and our ongoing flight is merely our Fall, gradually accelerating. Our measuring instruments are the signs of our anguish. A being that lives in harmony with the environment in which it flourishes has no need for a wrist watch: the courses of the stars are enough. It experiences growing old only as a happy ripening; it participates in the music of the spheres’.

So, could it be that the pyramids and these stone circles and other similar temples were also set up to measure time? and for both agricultural and religious/ritual/magic reasons? Its an interesting hypothesis.

The book Uriel's Machine by Christopher Knight and Robert Lomas now comes to mind. In the 'Book of Enoch', we are told that Enoch was taken to different location around the earth by the Angels (Shining Ones) and shown these devices (circles and standing stones - hence the title "Uriel's Machine") that measured the Solstices and Equinoxes? Surely this would have been implemented to mark time after the earth tilted and man fell into the cycles of time.

Best,
Gary

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Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 464 Scott Creighton 23-Aug-07 01:41
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 255 Ahatmose 23-Aug-07 03:10
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 290 Broker 23-Aug-07 04:15
Special Thanks to Gary Osborn 314 Scott Creighton 23-Aug-07 11:20
Re: Special Thanks to Gary Osborn 270 P Mac 23-Aug-07 12:17
Re: Special Thanks to Gary Osborn 323 Scott Creighton 23-Aug-07 19:34
Re: Special Thanks to Gary Osborn 365 Gary Osborn 23-Aug-07 14:10
Re: Special Thanks to Gary Osborn 307 Joyeuse 23-Aug-07 15:28
Re: Special Thanks to Gary Osborn 311 Scott Creighton 23-Aug-07 19:30
Re: Special Thanks to Gary Osborn 279 Joyeuse 23-Aug-07 21:15
Re: Special Thanks to Gary Osborn 334 Joyeuse 23-Aug-07 15:25
Re: Special Thanks to Gary Osborn 287 Gary Osborn 23-Aug-07 15:36
Re: Special Thanks to Gary Osborn 299 Joyeuse 23-Aug-07 16:16
Re: Special Thanks to Gary Osborn 295 Gary Osborn 23-Aug-07 16:22
Re: Special Thanks to Gary Osborn 313 Joyeuse 23-Aug-07 16:45
Re: Special Thanks to Gary Osborn 264 Gary Osborn 23-Aug-07 16:58
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 270 Scott Creighton 23-Aug-07 19:33
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 285 Broker 24-Aug-07 02:25
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 283 Kboldt 23-Aug-07 15:50
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 250 Gary Osborn 23-Aug-07 16:01
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 303 Kboldt 23-Aug-07 16:33
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 289 Gary Osborn 23-Aug-07 20:22
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 256 Kboldt 23-Aug-07 20:33
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 214 Dale Robert Lerch 24-Aug-07 08:36
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 277 P Mac 23-Aug-07 16:49
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 312 Scott Creighton 23-Aug-07 19:37
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 307 Gary Osborn 23-Aug-07 20:31
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 300 Kboldt 23-Aug-07 20:49
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 321 NetWorkAngel 24-Aug-07 20:54
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 282 Scott Creighton 24-Aug-07 21:04
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 176 NetWorkAngel 23-Aug-07 17:10
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 281 Kboldt 23-Aug-07 17:26
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 328 P Mac 23-Aug-07 17:35
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 214 Scott Creighton 23-Aug-07 19:40
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 257 Gary Osborn 23-Aug-07 20:08
A bit of clarification 269 Jon B 23-Aug-07 17:45
Re: A bit of clarification 227 Scott Creighton 23-Aug-07 20:00
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 332 Scott Creighton 23-Aug-07 20:50
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 342 mephisto 23-Aug-07 07:44
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 259 Scott Creighton 23-Aug-07 20:03
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 283 Gary Osborn 23-Aug-07 08:20
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 297 Scott Creighton 23-Aug-07 20:04
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 282 Gary Osborn 24-Aug-07 10:25
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 288 Gary Osborn 24-Aug-07 11:13
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 195 P Mac 24-Aug-07 11:55
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 299 Gary Osborn 24-Aug-07 13:26
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 321 Sirfiroth 24-Aug-07 14:52
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 291 Gary Osborn 24-Aug-07 15:02
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 301 Sirfiroth 25-Aug-07 03:42
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 251 Gary Osborn 26-Aug-07 12:21
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 246 P Mac 24-Aug-07 11:45
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 271 Gary Osborn 24-Aug-07 12:00
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 262 magisterchessmutt 24-Aug-07 12:23
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 308 Gary Osborn 24-Aug-07 14:10
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 287 Scott Creighton 24-Aug-07 18:21
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 246 Gary Osborn 24-Aug-07 19:18
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 317 Ghia 23-Aug-07 08:40
Wow! 397 Ghia 23-Aug-07 09:06
Re: Wow! 322 Scott Creighton 23-Aug-07 20:06
Re: Wow! 305 Jackfrost 24-Aug-07 16:09
Re: Wow! 269 Scott Creighton 24-Aug-07 16:49
Re: Wow! 318 Saravuth 26-Aug-07 02:35
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 152 Morph 23-Aug-07 09:07
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 284 Ghia 23-Aug-07 09:12
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 279 Morph 23-Aug-07 10:25
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 256 Joyeuse 23-Aug-07 16:58
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 306 mephisto 23-Aug-07 12:06
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 356 Ahatmose 23-Aug-07 12:57
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 304 Spiros 23-Aug-07 09:24
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 273 Morph 23-Aug-07 13:30
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 212 Gary Osborn 23-Aug-07 13:54
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 293 Gary Osborn 23-Aug-07 14:19
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 315 Morph 23-Aug-07 14:20
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 286 Ahatmose 23-Aug-07 13:56
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 285 Sirfiroth 23-Aug-07 13:31
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 240 Scott Creighton 23-Aug-07 20:09
More fully... 321 Morph 23-Aug-07 13:53
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 222 Ahatmose 23-Aug-07 14:08
Addendum: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 235 Ahatmose 23-Aug-07 14:19
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 291 Gary Osborn 23-Aug-07 23:48
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 278 Morph 23-Aug-07 14:13
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 337 drrayeye 23-Aug-07 14:47
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 275 Scott Creighton 23-Aug-07 20:18
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 384 drrayeye 24-Aug-07 14:28
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 269 Joyeuse 23-Aug-07 15:22
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 290 Ahatmose 23-Aug-07 15:29
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 249 Joyeuse 23-Aug-07 16:05
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 324 NetWorkAngel 23-Aug-07 17:16
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 331 Joyeuse 23-Aug-07 17:39
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 295 NetWorkAngel 23-Aug-07 17:45
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 262 Joyeuse 23-Aug-07 17:42
oops pls read "can't" instead of can N/T 313 Joyeuse 23-Aug-07 17:44
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 267 Scott Creighton 23-Aug-07 21:22
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 286 Dale Robert Lerch 24-Aug-07 09:06
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 243 Scott Creighton 24-Aug-07 13:46
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 231 Joe Atlantis 23-Aug-07 19:25
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 299 Scott Creighton 23-Aug-07 20:26
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 319 Warwick 24-Aug-07 17:34
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 347 Scott Creighton 24-Aug-07 17:42
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 279 Warwick 24-Aug-07 18:11
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 307 Kboldt 24-Aug-07 18:23
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 331 Warwick 24-Aug-07 18:38
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 319 Scott Creighton 24-Aug-07 18:39
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 284 Warwick 25-Aug-07 17:21
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 309 Scott Creighton 25-Aug-07 17:33
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 276 Warwick 25-Aug-07 17:44
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 324 Scott Creighton 25-Aug-07 17:57
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 278 Warwick 26-Aug-07 17:26
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 299 Broker 26-Aug-07 19:42
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 260 Scott Creighton 26-Aug-07 20:52
Moderator Note 315 Ghia 26-Aug-07 23:31
Re: Moderator Note 282 Warwick 29-Aug-07 16:49
Re: Moderator Note 329 Ahatmose 29-Aug-07 17:21
Re: Moderator Note 285 Warwick 01-Sep-07 18:28
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 216 Ahatmose 24-Aug-07 18:42
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 195 caugusto 24-Aug-07 21:34
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 262 Warwick 25-Aug-07 17:29
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 284 Kboldt 24-Aug-07 18:04
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 281 Gary Osborn 24-Aug-07 18:42
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 315 Scott Creighton 24-Aug-07 18:49
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 280 Kboldt 24-Aug-07 19:05
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 244 Ahatmose 24-Aug-07 19:19
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 280 Scott Creighton 24-Aug-07 19:29
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 279 Ahatmose 24-Aug-07 20:16
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 256 Gary Osborn 24-Aug-07 20:45
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 313 Scott Creighton 24-Aug-07 20:53
More Chills... 185 Ghia 25-Aug-07 00:21
Re: More Chills... 285 P Mac 25-Aug-07 11:12
Re: More Chills... 262 Scott Creighton 25-Aug-07 12:31
Re: More Chills... 128 P Mac 25-Aug-07 13:30
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 290 Kboldt 24-Aug-07 19:01
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 290 Gary Osborn 24-Aug-07 19:29
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 340 jnisbet 25-Aug-07 01:48
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 288 Scott Creighton 25-Aug-07 11:00
A shadow beyond the doubt 296 drew 25-Aug-07 03:06
Re: A shadow beyond the doubt 280 jnisbet 25-Aug-07 03:41
Re: A shadow beyond the doubt 325 drew 25-Aug-07 12:43
Re: A shadow beyond the doubt 287 P Mac 25-Aug-07 11:46
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 284 Saravuth 25-Aug-07 14:34
please explain 261 Spiros 25-Aug-07 14:40
Re: please explain 309 Mr. Hunter 25-Aug-07 15:48
Re: please explain 304 magisterchessmutt 26-Aug-07 00:17
Re: please explain 287 Scott Creighton 25-Aug-07 17:11
the solution? 291 Spiros 25-Aug-07 18:53
Re: the solution? 307 Scott Creighton 25-Aug-07 20:49
Re: the solution? 240 Spiros 25-Aug-07 21:50
Re: the solution? 284 Scott Creighton 25-Aug-07 22:11
Re: the solution? 252 Gary Osborn 26-Aug-07 00:23
Re: the solution? 265 Scott Creighton 26-Aug-07 01:21
Re: the solution? 263 Dale Robert Lerch 26-Aug-07 07:47
Re: the solution? 281 Gary Osborn 30-Aug-07 20:28
Re: the solution? 313 Gary Osborn 26-Aug-07 12:37
Re: the solution? 233 Spiros 27-Aug-07 19:18
Re: the solution? 286 Gary Osborn 27-Aug-07 19:23
Question remains unanswered ... at least to me. 307 Ahatmose 26-Aug-07 02:04
Re: Question remains unanswered ... at least to me. 302 Scott Creighton 26-Aug-07 20:05
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 309 Scott Creighton 25-Aug-07 17:17
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 242 magisterchessmutt 26-Aug-07 01:52
Testing and validating the Giza axial tilt theory 358 drrayeye 26-Aug-07 20:29
Re: Testing and validating the Giza axial tilt theory 226 Scott Creighton 27-Aug-07 17:43
Re: Testing and validating the Giza axial tilt theory 311 Ahatmose 27-Aug-07 17:54
Firestone 357 drrayeye 27-Aug-07 20:10
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 271 Richard Essame 27-Aug-07 02:59
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 300 Ghia 27-Aug-07 03:12
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 288 Richard Essame 27-Aug-07 06:38
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 236 magisterchessmutt 27-Aug-07 05:00
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 284 Richard Essame 27-Aug-07 06:04
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 301 magisterchessmutt 27-Aug-07 06:24
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 294 Richard Essame 27-Aug-07 07:12
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 307 Ahatmose 27-Aug-07 14:19
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 295 Scott Creighton 27-Aug-07 14:51
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 315 Ahatmose 27-Aug-07 16:02
Addendum ... 325 Ahatmose 27-Aug-07 16:31
Re: Addendum ... 302 Scott Creighton 27-Aug-07 16:49
Re: Addendum ... 268 Ahatmose 27-Aug-07 17:00
Re: Addendum ... 306 Scott Creighton 27-Aug-07 17:30
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 286 Richard Essame 27-Aug-07 19:28
This may help, Don 279 Cesar 27-Aug-07 22:18
Re: This may help, Don 286 Ghia 27-Aug-07 23:40
Re: This may help, Don 278 Scott Creighton 27-Aug-07 23:59
Re: This may help, Don 298 Cesar 28-Aug-07 02:40
Re: This may help, Don 268 Sirfiroth 28-Aug-07 02:51
Re: This may help, Don 276 Cesar 28-Aug-07 04:12
Re: This may help, Don 325 Sirfiroth 28-Aug-07 05:29
Re: This may help, Don 295 Ahatmose 28-Aug-07 02:15
Re: This may help, Don 328 Cesar 28-Aug-07 04:12
Re: This may help, Don 370 Scott Creighton 28-Aug-07 10:56
Re: This may help, Don 274 Cesar 28-Aug-07 21:44
The Impactor 243 Scott Creighton 28-Aug-07 22:17
Re: This may help, Don 221 Scott Creighton 29-Aug-07 11:38
Intriguing 331 Cesar 01-Sep-07 12:03
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 342 LonelyAngel 27-Aug-07 18:37
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 323 Scott Creighton 27-Aug-07 18:44
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 331 LonelyAngel 28-Aug-07 17:57
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 282 Deep1 28-Aug-07 18:52
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 254 LonelyAngel 29-Aug-07 20:38
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 266 Deep1 29-Aug-07 20:59
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 296 Ahatmose 29-Aug-07 21:23
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 263 LonelyAngel 30-Aug-07 16:24
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 310 Scott Creighton 30-Aug-07 17:02
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 286 LonelyAngel 30-Aug-07 17:43
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 248 Gary Osborn 30-Aug-07 20:01
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 292 Scott Creighton 30-Aug-07 21:17
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 289 Gary Osborn 30-Aug-07 21:44
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 269 LonelyAngel 30-Aug-07 21:57
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 294 Gary Osborn 30-Aug-07 23:40
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 298 Morph 31-Aug-07 11:39
Re: Great Pyramid Axial Tilt Theory 289 Scott Creighton 28-Aug-07 18:55
One major problem as I see it ... 261 Ahatmose 28-Aug-07 23:07
Re: One major problem as I see it ... 310 P Mac 29-Aug-07 00:02
Re: One major problem as I see it ... 238 magisterchessmutt 29-Aug-07 00:25
Re: One major problem as I see it ... 314 Richard Essame 29-Aug-07 00:33
Re: One major problem as I see it ... 303 Ahatmose 29-Aug-07 02:39
Re: One major problem as I see it ... 306 Richard Essame 29-Aug-07 03:04
Re: One major problem as I see it ... 343 Ahatmose 29-Aug-07 03:15
Re: One major problem as I see it ... 283 Richard Essame 29-Aug-07 05:24
Re: One major problem as I see it ... 233 Cesar 29-Aug-07 02:21
Re: One major problem as I see it ... 292 caugusto 29-Aug-07 04:40
Re: One major Solution? 290 Scott Creighton 29-Aug-07 09:56
Re: One major Solution? 348 Ahatmose 29-Aug-07 17:47
Re: One major Solution? 261 Richard Essame 30-Aug-07 00:16
Re: One major Solution? 294 Richard Essame 30-Aug-07 19:24
Re: One major Solution? 322 P Mac 31-Aug-07 12:44
Re: One major Solution? 276 Richard Essame 31-Aug-07 23:39
Re: One major Solution? 280 Scott Creighton 01-Sep-07 10:25
Re: One major Solution? 247 P Mac 01-Sep-07 16:13
Re: One major Solution? 296 P Mac 02-Sep-07 00:23
Re: One major Solution? 285 Ahatmose 02-Sep-07 01:50
Or another solution... 313 drew 29-Aug-07 21:35
Re: Or another solution... 250 Jackfrost 30-Aug-07 15:46
Re: Or another solution... 245 P Mac 30-Aug-07 16:39
Re: Or another solution... 283 Jackfrost 31-Aug-07 10:55
Re: Or another solution... 310 P Mac 31-Aug-07 16:01
Re: Or another solution... 316 Richard Essame 01-Sep-07 01:57


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