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You know, your comment about finding the "common ancestor", as well as Susan's reference to Richard Dawkins puts me in mind of something I learned from a couple of botanists.

I have already mentioned that I am not a scientist, unless you consider someone with an MBA who sort of understands the "dismal science" of economics to be a scientist LOL! But I have always enjoyed science, and my wife and I are always taking a science course or two at the local junior college; I guess we know just enough to be dangerous.

We also work as volunteers at a local arboretum in Arizona, and went to a couple of colloquia on plant taxonomy with some botanists specializing in desert plants.

It seems that, although they still teach Linnaeus' binomial classification, as well as the Kingdom-Phylum-Class-Order-Family-Genus-Species thingy, it's no longer considered a big deal.

Instead, they use molelecular systematics (mitochondrial DNA comparisons) to determine at what point in time two species have diverged, which has led to a de facto investigation of plants as being either the same species (i.e., they can interbreed and produce viable ofspring) or not; and if not, how far back did they diverge.

This is exactly the approach Dawkins makes in his "Ancestor's Tale". Although I still feel an emotional atachment to Linnaeus' classification, I suppose the present way makes more sense, although I'm also guessing that Biblical literalists would have a hard time with it, since it makes several assumptions which are at the same time quite basic and quite anti-Bible.

"Given any kind of real choice as children, we'd all be Christians because they have hot dogs with mustard and pickle-relish."

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The missing link is still missing 185 Citizen Attorney 29-Nov-06 13:29
I don't believe thre's a missing link per se. 381 Duncan Kunz 29-Nov-06 16:49
Re: I don't believe thre's a missing link per se. 232 Susan Doris 29-Nov-06 20:00
Reed Richards as the Missing Link? 130 Me 30-Nov-06 00:59
Brother Dawkins 147 Duncan Kunz 30-Nov-06 16:52
Re: Brother Dawkins 133 Susan Doris 30-Nov-06 19:20
Well-said, Duncan. 130 AndyBlackard 30-Nov-06 22:12
Re: Well-said, Duncan. 150 Duncan Kunz 01-Dec-06 16:04
Re: Well-said, Duncan. 112 AndyBlackard 01-Dec-06 16:13
Re: Well-said, Duncan. 150 Citizen Attorney 02-Dec-06 03:39
Re: Well-said, Duncan. 127 Me 02-Dec-06 23:34
Re: Well-said, Duncan. 148 AndyBlackard 03-Dec-06 02:52
Re: Well-said, Duncan. 181 Susan Doris 03-Dec-06 08:19
Re: Well-said, Duncan. 139 Citizen Attorney 03-Dec-06 03:44
Re: Well-said, Duncan. 113 AndyBlackard 03-Dec-06 04:49
Brain Size and diet? 112 W_C_Sally 03-Dec-06 08:33
Re: Brain Size and diet? 104 AndyBlackard 03-Dec-06 12:37
Re: Brain Size and diet? 127 Me 03-Dec-06 23:52
Best ratio is 50 - 50, usually not the norm, but in olden days, ?? 149 W_C_Sally 13-Dec-06 06:34
Re: The missing link is still missing 91 Raja 29-Nov-06 17:55
Re: The missing link is still missing 128 Raja 29-Nov-06 18:45
Re: The missing link is still missing 108 Duncan Kunz 30-Nov-06 17:08
Re: The missing link is still missing 107 Raja 30-Nov-06 21:11
Re: The missing link is still missing, oh no, there he is! 137 Me 01-Dec-06 00:09
Re: The missing link is still missing, oh no, there he is! 128 Raja 02-Dec-06 09:26

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