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Genesis Veracity wrote:

> The dirty little secret of the Big Bang Theory is that it

> presupposes two contradictory notions:

>

> #1. That the universe has a beginning-center, and thus an edge

> (bounded universe).

>

> #2. That the universe is boundless.

>

> The contradictory boundless universe of presupposition #2 is

> the dirty little secret because with the bounded universe of

> presupposition #1, gravitational time dilation allows the

> universe to be only thousands of years old.

>

You are misunderstanding the meaning of 'finite but boundless'. The 'infinite' or 'steady state' universe has been rejected by most scientists for various reasons and the favored model is now the big bang and 'finite but boundless'. That something is 'finite' does not mean that it must have a literal edge. A 'boundary' is simply an edge and an

> The dirty little secret of the Big Bang Theory is that it

> presupposes two contradictory notions:

>

> #1. That the universe has a beginning-center, and thus an edge

> (bounded universe).

>

> #2. That the universe is boundless.

>

> The contradictory boundless universe of presupposition #2 is

> the dirty little secret because with the bounded universe of

> presupposition #1, gravitational time dilation allows the

> universe to be only thousands of years old.

>

You are misunderstanding the meaning of 'finite but boundless'. The 'infinite' or 'steady state' universe has been rejected by most scientists for various reasons and the favored model is now the big bang and 'finite but boundless'. That something is 'finite' does not mean that it must have a literal edge. A 'boundary' is simply an edge and an

*edge*is not the same thing as a*limit.*If space is*curved*in dimensions other than the 3 we are familiar with then it can curve back on itself and form a closed shape. This can be understood by 3 dimensional analogy. The interior of a sphere is both finite and boundless. There is a fixed amount of space, but you won't ever come to the 'edge' of it. There is also a*center*though you may have a hard time figuring out where that is from inside. That the universe has a beginning in time does not preclude any of these qualities.--

Like ancient Rome, we today are once more importing every form of exotic superstition in the hope of finding the right remedy for our sickness.

-- C. G. Jung

Richard Wilhelm: In Memoriam (1930), CW 15: pg. 60

Like ancient Rome, we today are once more importing every form of exotic superstition in the hope of finding the right remedy for our sickness.

-- C. G. Jung

Richard Wilhelm: In Memoriam (1930), CW 15: pg. 60

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