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Thanos5150 Wrote:
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> You made a comment about Saqarra and mastabas
> leading to pyramids. Mastabas are rectangular and
> the core of Djoser (M1) is a square and is debated
> whether it was ever intended to be a mastaba.
> Stadelmann suggest this was the nucleus of a
> planned pyramid, I disagree, but regardless there
> is no doubt it was built first. These are the
> facts which as usual you dismiss them at your own
> peril. The tower core of Meidum sits on a square
> base which its similarity to Djoser M1 is not lost
> on Egyptologists either.

>
> The Meidum tower core, and the other stepped tower
> cores we see, are in principle nothing more than
> mastabas extended in height. Medium does have a
> simple core which was expanded in width and height
> by using accretion layers to make the tower form
> we see today.

The question is what is the purpose of this tower core. What is the purpose of the steps?

There isn't only a single means to build a pyramid and there isn't a single reason to build a monument, mnemonic, or monolith in the shape of a pyramid. Every single facet and characteristic of the pyramid including those linguists refuse to measure, has a reason or purpose for its existence. These things very rarely, if ever, owe their existence to religion or magic. You don't build flying buttresses for religious purposes or to please God, you build them to hold up a cathedral. You don't string wire across a river for magic, you do it to build a suspension bridge. The presupposition that mastabas had to reach the sky for proper ascension is sheer nonsense; they had a function and no amount of studying the incantation and book of the dead will answer the first or any other question about the nature of the function, reasons, or purposes of ANY feature of the pyramid. Such endeavors are PURE speculation based on appearances and similarities. They are Look and See Science.

I've provided perfectly good hypotheses about these. If I'm right then soon enough these hypotheses will simply be called "obvious deduction".

> You are literally just making up the idea a tower
> core is more difficult to build for no other
> reason than you want to crate a reason not to make
> it despite the clear evidence to the contrary. You
> ass talks and your fingers type. A tower core is
> not more difficult to build and in reality
> probably much easier.

Of course a tower core is harder to build for obvious reasons. ANY method of lifting stone is more difficult the higher you go and the steeper you make the sides. Tower cores are apparently more solid and heavier meaning there are more stones (more weight) per unit volume. Even if I'm right and no human ever lifted a stone the fact remains that pulleys and ropes wear out faster on a 70 degree corner than a 50 degree.

Is it really necessary to list every possible means to lift stones and then show that vertical walls make it harder?

> Sweet Christmas. And yet there it is:
>

...With the steps they used for ramps/ mounds/ battlements/ etc/ etc lying collapsed right where they had once helped lift the stones to build the tower core.

We're looking in all the wrong places for "ramps". They are right there in the gravimetric scan but people see their beliefs instead of what's right before their eyes. We now have science by consensus rather than experiment and those who form that same consensus aren't allowed the data from century old technology.

Man fears the pyramid, time fears man.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11-Apr-20 13:29 by cladking.

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Anastasi I Papyrus: Ramp Building 634 Thanos5150 05-Apr-20 02:41
Re: Anastasi I Papyrus: Ramp Building 119 seasmith 05-Apr-20 04:18
Re: Anastasi I Papyrus: Ramp Building 100 thinkitover 05-Apr-20 11:08
Re: Anastasi I Papyrus: Ramp Building 92 Dr. Troglodyte 05-Apr-20 14:26
Re: Anastasi I Papyrus: Ramp Building 84 Thanos5150 05-Apr-20 15:13
Re: Anastasi I Papyrus: Ramp Building 98 cladking 05-Apr-20 13:54
Re: Anastasi I Papyrus: Ramp Building 88 Thanos5150 06-Apr-20 01:41
Re: Anastasi I Papyrus: Ramp Building 76 cladking 06-Apr-20 03:22
Re: Anastasi I Papyrus: Ramp Building 87 Thanos5150 06-Apr-20 04:21
Re: Anastasi I Papyrus: Ramp Building 70 cladking 06-Apr-20 14:25
Re: Anastasi I Papyrus: Ramp Building 62 cladking 06-Apr-20 14:55
Re: Anastasi I Papyrus: Ramp Building 72 Thanos5150 06-Apr-20 15:58
Re: Anastasi I Papyrus: Ramp Building 68 Steve Clayton 06-Apr-20 17:44
Re: Anastasi I Papyrus: Ramp Building 86 Thanos5150 06-Apr-20 23:24
Re: Anastasi I Papyrus: Ramp Building 75 seasmith 07-Apr-20 03:01
Re: Anastasi I Papyrus: Ramp Building 77 Thanos5150 07-Apr-20 04:15
Re: Anastasi I Papyrus: Ramp Building 78 cladking 08-Apr-20 14:59
Re: Anastasi I Papyrus: Ramp Building 87 Thanos5150 08-Apr-20 16:13
Re: Anastasi I Papyrus: Ramp Building 82 Eddie Larry 08-Apr-20 17:15
Mebbe mastabas were build around a tower core. n/t 77 cladking 09-Apr-20 13:50
Re: Mebbe mastabas were build around a tower core. n/t 77 Thanos5150 09-Apr-20 15:59
Re: Mebbe mastabas were build around a tower core. n/t 94 cladking 09-Apr-20 16:10
Re: Mebbe mastabas were build around a tower core 66 thinkitover 10-Apr-20 04:53
Re: Mebbe mastabas were build around a tower core 78 cladking 10-Apr-20 14:10
Re: Mebbe mastabas were build around a tower core. n/t 101 Thanos5150 10-Apr-20 22:42
Re: Mebbe mastabas were build around a tower core. n/t 72 cladking 11-Apr-20 13:23
Re: Mebbe mastabas were build around a tower core. n/t 78 cladking 11-Apr-20 13:48
Re: Mebbe mastabas were build around a tower core. n/t 74 Thanos5150 11-Apr-20 16:31
Re: Mebbe mastabas were build around a tower core. n/t 84 cladking 11-Apr-20 16:55
Re: Anastasi I Papyrus: Ramp Building 83 Thanos5150 20-Apr-20 04:02
Re: Anastasi I Papyrus: Ramp Building 112 Steve Clayton 20-Apr-20 21:06
Re: Anastasi I Papyrus: Ramp Building 83 Dr. Troglodyte 05-Apr-20 14:25
Re: Anastasi I Papyrus: Ramp Building 88 Thanos5150 05-Apr-20 15:15
Re: Anastasi I Papyrus: Ramp Building 93 Steve Clayton 05-Apr-20 15:44
. 74 Manu 05-Apr-20 17:50
Re: Anastasi I Papyrus: Ramp Building 81 Dr. Troglodyte 05-Apr-20 21:22
Re: Anastasi I Papyrus: Ramp Building 73 Steve Clayton 06-Apr-20 05:19
Re: Anastasi I Papyrus: Ramp Building 69 Dr. Troglodyte 06-Apr-20 18:15
Re: Anastasi I Papyrus: Ramp Building 72 Steve Clayton 06-Apr-20 20:07
Zawayet El-Aryan, Ramp 105 Manu 05-Apr-20 17:53
Re: Zawayet El-Aryan, Ramp 74 cladking 06-Apr-20 00:45
Re: Zawayet El-Aryan, Ramp 82 Manu 06-Apr-20 01:27
Re: Zawayet El-Aryan, Ramp 69 cladking 06-Apr-20 02:21
Re: Zawayet El-Aryan, Ramp 88 eyeofhorus33 06-Apr-20 14:57
Re: Zawayet El-Aryan, Ramp 76 Steve Clayton 06-Apr-20 15:36
Re: Zawayet El-Aryan, Ramp 79 cladking 06-Apr-20 16:20
Stone Block Math 95 Manu 07-Apr-20 05:32
Re: Stone Block Math 80 Thanos5150 07-Apr-20 18:12
Re: Stone Block Math 84 Manu 07-Apr-20 20:57
Re: Stone Block Math 70 cladking 08-Apr-20 14:35
Re: Zawayet El-Aryan, Ramp 88 cladking 06-Apr-20 16:00
Re: Zawayet El-Aryan, Ramp 80 eyeofhorus33 08-Apr-20 18:14
Re: Zawayet El-Aryan, Ramp 79 Thanos5150 06-Apr-20 01:10
Anastasi I vs the ADA 76 Dr. Troglodyte 06-Apr-20 23:08
Re: Anastasi I vs the ADA 80 Thanos5150 07-Apr-20 04:32
Re: Anastasi I Papyrus: Ramp Building 74 Steve Clayton 14-Apr-20 17:40


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