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Dr. Troglodyte Wrote:
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> Hello Steve Clayton; you wrote: Mark
> Lehner proved Pyramid construction ramps don't
> work
. Nova Movie:  This Old Pyramid (Nova -
> 1992)…
>
> …His lead into ramp took them 2/3rds of the way
> up into the build. Additionally, that lead in ramp
> is 15 feet wide, so they could bring in a front
> loader. Anyone with an impartial observance, can
> see this does not work. Until someone can do
> better than Mark & Rodger, this notion of ramps
> is debunked
.”

>
> From the
> [url=https://www.facebook.com/watch/?t=2355&v=2584
> 878188409873]referenced video[/url] and the
> associated
> [url=https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/transcripts/191
> 5mpyramid.html]video transcript[/url]:
>
> [quote][i]”ROGER HOPKINS: We're all set. Well,
> it worked like I figured it would. I mean, I knew
> I was going to have a little problem on the corner
> there, but if that had been a five-ton block, we
> could have done it this same way. This is twice
> the grade we had before, easily.
>
> MARK LEHNER: And I like the way you distributed
> the men going back down the ramp, and the pull as
> well, so that you're using the ramp in both
> directions.
>
> ROGER HOPKINS: Well, there's no place else for
> them to go.
>
> MARK LEHNER: It was a little bit complicated
> changing the ropes and so on.
>
> ROGER HOPKINS: This is the first time we did it.
>
> MARK LEHNER: It's the first time you did it.
>
> NARRATOR: [u]Roger only had enough time to build
> the ramp around three sides of his
> pyramid[b][size=large]*[/size][/b][/u], but he was
> confident that he could have continued wrapping it
> around to the top. [b][size=large]The success with
> the ramp convinced him that a similar ramp was
> used by the builders of the great
> pyramid[/size][/b]. Mark and Roger's project has
> focused on figuring out how to build the main
> structure of the pyramid. But the ancient builders
> had to deal with engineering problems in the
> complex inner chambers as well. Deep in the heart
> of Khufu's Pyramid is his tomb. It was supposed to
> protect the pharaoh's mummified body for an
> eternity. But all that now remains is his empty
> granite sarcophagus.”[/i][/quote]
>
> [quote][b][size=large]*[/size][/b][i]”MARK
> LEHNER: [u]So basically, [b]you have three
> weeks[/b] to move 189 stones into a pyramid?[/u]
>
> ROGER HOPKINS: Right. Doesn't look like they'll
> fit all in this small square we're in, but. . .
>
> MARK LEHNER: A pyramid of how big? How tall is it
> supposed to be?
>
> ROGER HOPKINS: Well, it's a little less than six
> meters high, and probably about nine meters at the
> base.
>
> MARK LEHNER: And you think this is do-able in
> three weeks? You're going to do this by ancient
> Egyptian methods? Are you going to be faithful to
> the way the ancient Egyptians do it, or are you
> going to come in here with a backhoe and a loader
> and a forklift?
>
> ROGER HOPKINS: Well, let's put it this way.
> [u]I'll be as—probably—as faithful as I can
> be, [b]given that I only have three weeks
> here.[/u][/b]”[/i][/quote]
>
> Your posted assessment does not agree with the
> presented and published material.  The
> Lehner/Rogers/NOVA Team validated ‘means and
> methods’ within the project’s parameters,
> including production time constraints and
> available untrained labor.




Hi Dr. Troglodyte,

These quotes will not change the fact it took them 3 weeks to assemble 189 stones into a Pyramid shape.

At neighboring pyramid complexes (-41.37) the remains of clay roads beds have been found which the ancient Egyptians embedded wood, like railway ties.

No such evidence of this has been found on the Giza Plateau.

(-40.15) The only drawback is we are getting into a situation where a,  I want to do it all this way.  Were going to do plenty of it that way, but ...

I am not impugning Marks work. I think Mark is the best Egyptologist there is on the Giza Plateau. I revere him! 
I feel most people watching that movie can recognize, with that speed and problems encountered, no amount of men standing on ramps are going to be able to place a stone every 3 minutes. Rodger has over 20 men attempting this. How many men do you think could fit on those proposed ramps. 

> Your posted assessment does not agree with the
> presented and published material.  The
> Lehner/Rogers/NOVA Team validated ‘means and
> methods’ within the project’s parameters,
> including production time constraints and
> available untrained labor.

I thought the purpose of the build, was to validate their proposed building method. It's not that my posted assessment does not agree with their presented and published material. It's that their assessments and published material do not agree with their own proposal. I commend them for their effort, but using machines, crowbars, and metal hammers, should not be within the project's parameters.

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