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Steve Clayton Wrote:
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> The math I am performing, has to do with single
> and double incline plains, and the amount of
> square footage required of water (1 cubic foot of
> water = 62.43 lbs.) required to lift an average
> stone of 2,500lbs., on both the Pyramid face, as
> well as, the Causeway. The barges required in such
> an endeavor, need to be able to float, and
> displace enough water, to carry a specific load.
> Their widths are in line with a 13-15 feet
> Causeway Platforms. It's the Math that shapes
> everything.
>
> My illustrations are based on specifics. Ropes
> sizes to handle breakage, a time frame placing one
> stone every 1 minute, within 20 years, ect., ect.,
> ect. I do not leave anything up to chance. When
> completed, you should be able to use Sketchup and
> remove any item, measure it, and calculate it for
> realism. That's my idea, as to illustrating and
> explaining...How the Pyramids were built. An in
> depth study.
>
> Now that may bore the hell out of some
> individuals. Though I feel it is necessary, and
> therefore fixated, on getting it right. I am
> happy, when individuals point out the faults in
> my designs. They are in effect, helping to build a
> plausible presentation.
>
> Here, would you like to help me figure out the
> weight required to overcome the friction, of two
> equal loads, on two separate incline plains, ie.
> the Causeway. And, the space required in cubic
> feet of water, to overcome specific stone loads,
> and the size and minimum load breakage of the
> ropes required? Sound like fun? :)
>

I certainly won't be bored by the math and look forward to seeing it. But the size of the boat (in ft ^ 3) is merely the cubed root of the load divided by 64. I believe it was shaped like a grasshopper. The calculations are a little harder to model if the angles are different such as if they used G1a-c to lift stones on the causeway since the angle no longer cancels out and you have to use the sines or (sekeds) to compare the forces. This same applies to the cliff face that was apparently used. As a rule a great deal of the tweaking of any such system is done in practice rather than on paper or papyrus. No matter how careful your calculations or how fine your knowledge there are going to be peculiarities in the real world. Even slight differences in the angles or small temperature and humidity fluctuations can make large differences in terminal velocity or requisite loading. Even if you could get these "perfect" (with modern materials you almost could) operators will not operate them exactly according to spec. Some will prefer stable operation and some more robust. So it becomes necessary to have systems in place to control each aspect of the movements and most especially a pretty good braking system. Undershooting would cause large delays and overshooting can cause massive equipment damage and injury.

I believe you need to adjust your delivery rate somewhat. This is why I figure they mustta moved stones four or five at a time up the pyramid and in several trains to the base and causeway. Specifically they did not work 24/ 7 all year round. No construction ever occurred at night and pyramid building season was not over 8 months. Stones couldn't even be floated across the river beyond mid-February or so. I doubt they had much if any water off-season anyway. I also doubt they worked longer than 9 or 10 hour days. It was hard work tending all this equipment not to mention quarrying and it's far easier to just knock off after the men get tired. Getting time to rest makes them readier the next morning. The workers village was just simply tiny. They didn't have accommodations to house large numbers of spell men, injured, and sick workers. Very few men, women, and children built these so each had to function at near peak efficiency. This picture of leek eating stone draggers just never happened. It's obvious people wanted to work on the pyramid and if they were starving, beaten, or forced to working grueling hours in the desert heat most would be awol. It was an honor to work on these projects not a death sentence. But this means stones were needed much faster. They probably needed to move about 22 stones/ per hour up the pyramid but this was done in steps apparently so one stone might have needed to be lifted as many as 6 times. Then they also needed to first move these from the quarry to the base and there were always boats at the port that needed to be unloaded of casing stones and supplies. Calculating this "rate" gets tricky because it's really many different rates on different cycles. There were always stones in movement and it would astound onlookers that many just seemed to fly about like swallows under the riverbank and some a "bowshot (300') at a time". You could see much of the work from the east side near the "boat pit". This region was a beehive of activity.

"Ropes" are interesting. Ultimately they did nothing but transmit forces but, of course, building and operating them required a great deal of expertise and learning. I believe the largest diameter ancient rope known was about 4 1/2 inches but this would be insufficient for most of my designs. Building heavier ropes would have been easy enough. This would be sufficient for your proposals but you need more capacity to to move all the stones to get the job done in 30 years.

Man fears the pyramid, time fears man.

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Water for the Giza Complex 1602 Steve Clayton 10-Mar-20 16:15
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 291 Open mind 10-Mar-20 18:07
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 171 Steve Clayton 10-Mar-20 21:19
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 150 Open mind 10-Mar-20 22:40
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 170 cladking 10-Mar-20 20:23
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 163 Steve Clayton 10-Mar-20 21:31
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 157 Corpuscles 10-Mar-20 21:17
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 155 Steve Clayton 10-Mar-20 21:44
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 141 Corpuscles 10-Mar-20 22:16
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 152 Steve Clayton 10-Mar-20 22:51
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 140 Corpuscles 10-Mar-20 23:32
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 134 Steve Clayton 10-Mar-20 23:58
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 139 Warwick 11-Mar-20 17:28
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 167 cladking 11-Mar-20 00:27
Re:Give us the "works" AGAIN! 143 Corpuscles 11-Mar-20 01:16
Re: Re:Give us the "works" AGAIN! 159 Steve Clayton 11-Mar-20 01:29
Re: Re:Give us the "works" AGAIN! 134 Warwick 11-Mar-20 17:38
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 147 Steve Clayton 11-Mar-20 01:24
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 174 cladking 11-Mar-20 14:20
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 131 seasmith 11-Mar-20 16:41
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 126 Steve Clayton 11-Mar-20 20:19
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 130 cladking 11-Mar-20 21:12
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 130 Steve Clayton 11-Mar-20 21:31
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 121 cladking 12-Mar-20 00:14
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 125 thinkitover 15-Mar-20 16:35
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 133 cladking 15-Mar-20 22:39
Petrie's prejudice? 136 Warwick 11-Mar-20 17:46
Re: Petrie's prejudice? 141 cladking 11-Mar-20 18:02
Sam 128 Warwick 11-Mar-20 18:23
Re: Sam 133 cladking 11-Mar-20 18:42
Re: Sam 135 Warwick 11-Mar-20 19:00
Re: Sam 137 Steve Clayton 11-Mar-20 21:36
Re: Sam 137 cladking 12-Mar-20 00:21
Re: Sam 128 cladking 12-Mar-20 15:41
Sam 130 Warwick 12-Mar-20 17:32
Re: Sam 138 cladking 12-Mar-20 20:24
Re: Sam 115 cladking 18-Mar-20 16:51
Re: Sam 117 Steve Clayton 18-Mar-20 17:08
Re: Sam 127 cladking 18-Mar-20 17:50
Re: Sam 119 Steve Clayton 18-Mar-20 18:11
Re: Petrie's prejudice? 128 Steve Clayton 11-Mar-20 21:21
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 137 SandyJesse 12-Mar-20 21:13
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 139 cladking 12-Mar-20 21:57
Faiyum Depression 137 Dr. Troglodyte 11-Mar-20 20:05
Re: Faiyum Depression 135 Steve Clayton 11-Mar-20 20:52
Re: Faiyum Depression 140 Dr. Troglodyte 12-Mar-20 01:08
Re: Faiyum Depression 136 Steve Clayton 12-Mar-20 03:03
Re: Faiyum Depression 138 Warwick 12-Mar-20 17:25
Re: Faiyum Depression 123 cladking 12-Mar-20 19:52
Re: Faiyum Depression 132 Warwick 12-Mar-20 19:58
Re: Faiyum Depression 118 Steve Clayton 12-Mar-20 23:20
Re: Faiyum Depression 124 Warwick 16-Mar-20 17:24
Re: Faiyum Depression 117 Steve Clayton 16-Mar-20 19:45
Re: Faiyum Depression 123 Warwick 16-Mar-20 19:51
Re: Faiyum Depression 125 Steve Clayton 16-Mar-20 20:03
Old Fart 121 Warwick 16-Mar-20 20:46
Re: Old Fart 121 Steve Clayton 16-Mar-20 21:16
Re: Old Fart 121 Warwick 18-Mar-20 16:59
Central Wadi 123 Dr. Troglodyte 13-Mar-20 17:29
Re: Central Wadi 123 Steve Clayton 13-Mar-20 17:44
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 129 Steve Clayton 11-Mar-20 21:58
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 139 Corpuscles 11-Mar-20 22:49
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 124 cladking 12-Mar-20 00:10
In summation 134 Warwick 12-Mar-20 17:39
Re: In summation 136 cladking 12-Mar-20 19:36
Re: In summation 131 Warwick 12-Mar-20 19:52
Re: In summation 129 cladking 12-Mar-20 19:59
Re: In summation 139 Warwick 12-Mar-20 20:06
Re: In summation 121 cladking 12-Mar-20 20:11
Does everyone see what I see??? 129 Warwick 12-Mar-20 20:17
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 139 Thanos5150 12-Mar-20 01:58
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 145 Steve Clayton 12-Mar-20 03:27
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 125 Thanos5150 12-Mar-20 15:59
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 132 Steve Clayton 12-Mar-20 17:35
red Granite and a question 128 Warwick 12-Mar-20 17:44
Re: red Granite and a question 133 Steve Clayton 12-Mar-20 20:40
Re: red Granite and a question 126 Warwick 16-Mar-20 16:43
Re: red Granite and a question 122 Steve Clayton 16-Mar-20 18:46
Re: red Granite and a question 118 Warwick 16-Mar-20 19:46
Re: red Granite and a question 122 Steve Clayton 16-Mar-20 20:00
Re: red Granite and a question 125 Warwick 16-Mar-20 20:57
Re: red Granite and a question 127 Steve Clayton 16-Mar-20 21:25
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 131 Warwick 12-Mar-20 17:04
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 139 Corpuscles 12-Mar-20 16:11
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 142 Thanos5150 12-Mar-20 16:32
aquatic prestidigitation 122 Warwick 12-Mar-20 17:14
Re: aquatic prestidigitation 124 cladking 12-Mar-20 19:27
Re: aquatic prestidigitation 127 Warwick 12-Mar-20 19:33
Re: aquatic prestidigitation 115 cladking 12-Mar-20 20:03
Re: aquatic prestidigitation 127 Warwick 12-Mar-20 20:11
Re: aquatic prestidigitation 132 cladking 12-Mar-20 20:39
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 121 cladking 12-Mar-20 19:24
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 120 Warwick 12-Mar-20 19:31
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 127 cladking 12-Mar-20 20:06
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 122 Warwick 12-Mar-20 20:21
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 132 cladking 12-Mar-20 20:52
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 126 Warwick 12-Mar-20 17:34
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 121 Steve Clayton 12-Mar-20 23:03
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 130 Glass Jigsaw 12-Mar-20 17:51
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 139 SandyJesse 12-Mar-20 22:36
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 150 Steve Clayton 13-Mar-20 00:16
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 135 cladking 13-Mar-20 13:25
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 124 Steve Clayton 13-Mar-20 17:33
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 141 Thanos5150 13-Mar-20 16:11
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 124 Steve Clayton 13-Mar-20 17:21
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 129 Thanos5150 13-Mar-20 23:45
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 151 Steve Clayton 14-Mar-20 00:28
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 145 Thanos5150 14-Mar-20 04:37
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 144 Steve Clayton 14-Mar-20 05:53
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 139 Thanos5150 15-Mar-20 15:14
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 122 Steve Clayton 15-Mar-20 23:53
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 144 Thanos5150 16-Mar-20 17:04
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 125 Steve Clayton 16-Mar-20 18:21
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 147 cladking 16-Mar-20 22:35
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 129 Steve Clayton 17-Mar-20 02:30
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 165 cladking 17-Mar-20 03:08
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 132 Warwick 17-Mar-20 17:24
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 136 cladking 17-Mar-20 21:14
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 149 Hanslune 20-Mar-20 15:07
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 131 Warwick 22-Mar-20 18:12
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 122 Hanslune 22-Mar-20 18:32
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 136 Thanos5150 18-Mar-20 04:38
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 127 Steve Clayton 18-Mar-20 17:37
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 125 Steve Clayton 18-Mar-20 21:33
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 135 Thanos5150 18-Mar-20 22:39
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 142 Steve Clayton 19-Mar-20 00:48
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 141 Thanos5150 19-Mar-20 03:28
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 129 Steve Clayton 19-Mar-20 14:42
Food for thought 121 Warwick 19-Mar-20 16:52
Re: Food for thought 121 cladking 19-Mar-20 17:33
Re: Food for thought 129 Steve Clayton 19-Mar-20 17:54
Re: Food for thought 116 cladking 20-Mar-20 14:20
Re: Food for thought 118 cladking 20-Mar-20 14:38
Re: Water for thought 118 Steve Clayton 20-Mar-20 18:28
Re: Water for thought 126 Steve Clayton 20-Mar-20 19:20
Re: Water for thought 120 cladking 20-Mar-20 22:14
Re: Water for thought 116 Steve Clayton 20-Mar-20 23:13
Re: Water for thought 107 cladking 25-Mar-20 14:31
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 121 thinkitover 20-Mar-20 20:04
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 118 Steve Clayton 20-Mar-20 20:45
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 113 cladking 20-Mar-20 22:02
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 116 Steve Clayton 21-Mar-20 00:10
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 117 cladking 21-Mar-20 00:32
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 127 Steve Clayton 21-Mar-20 03:47
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 116 cladking 21-Mar-20 18:30
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 116 Steve Clayton 21-Mar-20 19:14
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 115 cladking 21-Mar-20 20:08
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 118 Steve Clayton 21-Mar-20 21:56
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 122 cladking 21-Mar-20 23:02
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 120 Steve Clayton 21-Mar-20 23:48
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 125 cladking 22-Mar-20 13:45
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 128 Steve Clayton 22-Mar-20 16:38
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 129 thinkitover 22-Mar-20 18:36
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 122 Steve Clayton 22-Mar-20 22:21
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 123 cladking 22-Mar-20 21:00
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 119 Steve Clayton 22-Mar-20 23:00
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 133 cladking 23-Mar-20 02:11
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 140 Steve Clayton 23-Mar-20 19:28
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 118 cladking 23-Mar-20 14:33
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 133 Steve Clayton 23-Mar-20 23:09
Re: Water for Moving Stones up the Causeway 124 Steve Clayton 24-Mar-20 21:19
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 114 cladking 25-Mar-20 14:50
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 139 Steve Clayton 25-Mar-20 18:20
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 108 cladking 26-Mar-20 15:25
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 111 Steve Clayton 26-Mar-20 18:22
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 112 cladking 26-Mar-20 19:01
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 111 cladking 26-Mar-20 19:11
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 108 Steve Clayton 26-Mar-20 19:53
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 98 cladking 26-Mar-20 19:57
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 112 Steve Clayton 26-Mar-20 21:02
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 103 cladking 26-Mar-20 21:36
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 110 cladking 26-Mar-20 21:51
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 116 Steve Clayton 26-Mar-20 22:43
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 112 cladking 27-Mar-20 00:17
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 111 Steve Clayton 27-Mar-20 21:51
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 110 cladking 28-Mar-20 00:43
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 106 Steve Clayton 28-Mar-20 01:51
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 117 cladking 28-Mar-20 02:30
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 127 cladking 28-Mar-20 14:47
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 130 Steve Clayton 28-Mar-20 21:52
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 124 cladking 29-Mar-20 00:50
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 114 Steve Clayton 30-Mar-20 15:00
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 113 cladking 30-Mar-20 16:13
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 107 Steve Clayton 30-Mar-20 21:22
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 124 cladking 31-Mar-20 02:19
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 117 Steve Clayton 31-Mar-20 05:22
Stone Pullers vs Canal Men 120 Steve Clayton 31-Mar-20 18:41
Re: Stone Pullers vs Canal Men 116 cladking 01-Apr-20 17:02
Re: Stone Pullers vs Canal Men 110 Steve Clayton 01-Apr-20 19:36
Re: Stone Pullers vs Canal Men 113 cladking 01-Apr-20 22:30
Re: Stone Pullers vs Canal Men 109 Steve Clayton 02-Apr-20 21:48
Re: Stone Pullers vs Canal Men 115 cladking 03-Apr-20 12:51
Re: Stone Pullers vs Canal Men 91 Steve Clayton 03-Apr-20 18:58
Re: Stone Pullers vs Canal Men 108 cladking 03-Apr-20 20:03
Re: Stone Pullers vs Canal Men 107 Steve Clayton 04-Apr-20 01:55
Re: Stone Pullers vs Canal Men 108 Thanos5150 04-Apr-20 14:51
Re: Stone Pullers vs Canal Men 103 Steve Clayton 04-Apr-20 18:17
Re: Stone Pullers vs Canal Men 108 Thanos5150 04-Apr-20 23:21
Re: Stone Pullers vs Canal Men 101 Steve Clayton 05-Apr-20 02:51
Re: Stone Pullers vs Canal Men 113 Thanos5150 05-Apr-20 03:49
Re: Stone Pullers vs Canal Men 107 Steve Clayton 05-Apr-20 14:20
Re: Stone Pullers vs Canal Men 109 Thanos5150 06-Apr-20 01:05
Re: Stone Pullers vs Canal Men 108 cladking 04-Apr-20 14:56
Re: Stone Pullers vs Canal Men 103 Steve Clayton 04-Apr-20 22:53
Re: Stone Pullers vs Canal Men 97 cladking 05-Apr-20 13:10
Re: Stone Pullers vs Canal Men 111 Steve Clayton 05-Apr-20 15:01
Re: Stone Pullers vs Canal Men 97 cladking 05-Apr-20 21:13
Re: Stone Pullers vs Canal Men 99 Steve Clayton 05-Apr-20 23:26
Re: Stone Pullers vs Canal Men 98 cladking 06-Apr-20 00:08
Re: Stone Pullers vs Canal Men 122 SandyJesse 01-Apr-20 22:38
Re: Stone Pullers vs Canal Men 119 SandyJesse 02-Apr-20 00:22
Re: Stone Pullers vs Canal Men 111 cladking 02-Apr-20 00:39
Re: Stone Pullers vs Canal Men 120 SandyJesse 02-Apr-20 00:52
Re: Stone Pullers vs Canal Men 142 SandyJesse 02-Apr-20 01:10
Re: Stone Pullers vs Canal Men 114 Warwick 02-Apr-20 18:39
Re: Stone Pullers vs Canal Men 107 cladking 02-Apr-20 19:42
STOP BEING DISHONEST!!!!! 104 Warwick 03-Apr-20 22:18
Re: STOP BEING DISHONEST!!!!! 97 cladking 04-Apr-20 15:59
Re: Stone Pullers vs Canal Men 114 Steve Clayton 02-Apr-20 22:17
Re: Stone Pullers vs Canal Men 118 Warwick 03-Apr-20 23:20
Re: Stone Pullers vs Canal Men 102 Steve Clayton 04-Apr-20 18:08
Re: Stone Pullers vs Canal Men 98 cladking 04-Apr-20 18:39
Re: Stone Pullers vs Canal Men 117 SandyJesse 02-Apr-20 23:32
Re: Stone Pullers vs Canal Men 107 Steve Clayton 03-Apr-20 01:03
Re: Stone Pullers vs Canal Men 115 SandyJesse 03-Apr-20 01:39
Re: Stone Pullers vs Canal Men 113 cladking 03-Apr-20 03:22
Re: Stone Pullers vs Canal Men 106 Steve Clayton 03-Apr-20 19:42
Re: Stone Pullers vs Canal Men 102 cladking 03-Apr-20 19:53
Re: Stone Pullers vs Canal Men 107 Steve Clayton 03-Apr-20 21:11
Re: Stone Pullers vs Canal Men 107 SandyJesse 03-Apr-20 22:20
Re: Stone Pullers vs Canal Men 105 Steve Clayton 04-Apr-20 18:32
Re: Stone Pullers vs Canal Men 109 SandyJesse 04-Apr-20 21:56
Re: Stone Pullers vs Canal Men 98 cladking 04-Apr-20 22:05
Re: Stone Pullers vs Canal Men 98 Steve Clayton 04-Apr-20 22:30
Re: Stone Pullers vs Canal Men 104 Steve Clayton 03-Apr-20 19:17
Re: Stone Pullers vs Canal Men 101 Steve Clayton 03-Apr-20 19:29
Re: Stone Pullers vs Canal Men 109 SandyJesse 03-Apr-20 21:06
Re: Stone Pullers vs Canal Men 118 Steve Clayton 04-Apr-20 01:57
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 126 Thanos5150 30-Mar-20 23:20
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 105 Steve Clayton 31-Mar-20 00:40
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 114 Thanos5150 31-Mar-20 16:38
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 119 Thanos5150 21-Mar-20 22:49
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 124 Thanos5150 23-Mar-20 15:30
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 106 Steve Clayton 01-Apr-20 19:13
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 131 Steve Clayton 13-Mar-20 18:12
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 136 drew 13-Mar-20 22:39
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 129 Steve Clayton 14-Mar-20 00:02
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 144 drew 14-Mar-20 22:57
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 132 Steve Clayton 15-Mar-20 16:51
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 111 cladking 15-Mar-20 22:13
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 108 cladking 15-Mar-20 22:37
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 113 Steve Clayton 16-Mar-20 00:11
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 107 cladking 16-Mar-20 00:37
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 122 drew 16-Mar-20 00:49
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 127 drew 16-Mar-20 00:27
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 119 cladking 16-Mar-20 00:46
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 134 drew 16-Mar-20 00:51
Hold it right there 117 Warwick 17-Mar-20 17:40
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 130 drew 17-Mar-20 22:53
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 111 cladking 18-Mar-20 01:20
he is gaslighting you 107 Warwick 18-Mar-20 17:05
Re: he is gaslighting you 110 cladking 18-Mar-20 17:44
a final shot thru the rigging 107 Warwick 18-Mar-20 18:31
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 135 drew 16-Mar-20 00:28
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 118 Steve Clayton 16-Mar-20 04:03
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 140 Corpuscles 16-Mar-20 05:34
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 122 thinkitover 16-Mar-20 13:10
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 112 Steve Clayton 16-Mar-20 15:34
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 113 Warwick 16-Mar-20 17:44
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 124 cladking 16-Mar-20 13:10
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 121 Steve Clayton 16-Mar-20 19:37
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 123 Steve Clayton 16-Mar-20 15:17
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 121 Warwick 16-Mar-20 17:37
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 128 drew 16-Mar-20 22:31
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 117 Warwick 17-Mar-20 17:33
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 119 Steve Clayton 17-Mar-20 18:38
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 119 Warwick 17-Mar-20 18:52
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 110 Steve Clayton 17-Mar-20 20:00
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 105 Warwick 18-Mar-20 17:14
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 116 Steve Clayton 18-Mar-20 17:47
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 105 Warwick 18-Mar-20 18:14
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 103 Steve Clayton 18-Mar-20 18:25
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 129 Thanos5150 18-Mar-20 01:09
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 130 cladking 18-Mar-20 01:33
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 135 Thanos5150 18-Mar-20 04:42
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 130 cladking 18-Mar-20 13:28
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 127 cladking 18-Mar-20 14:44
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 130 Thanos5150 18-Mar-20 22:13
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 113 Steve Clayton 18-Mar-20 22:24
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 109 cladking 19-Mar-20 00:20
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 118 cladking 19-Mar-20 00:10
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 110 cladking 19-Mar-20 00:16
the name of the game is obfuscation 117 Warwick 19-Mar-20 16:58
Stop the Bus. Sam NEEDS to get off 121 Warwick 18-Mar-20 17:29
Re: Stop the Bus. Sam NEEDS to get off 122 Steve Clayton 18-Mar-20 18:19
Re: Stop the Bus. Sam NEEDS to get off 110 Warwick 18-Mar-20 18:27
Re: Stop the Bus. Sam NEEDS to get off 109 cladking 18-Mar-20 19:34
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 111 Steve Clayton 18-Mar-20 18:13
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 124 cladking 18-Mar-20 19:42
Canal Searching 111 Steve Clayton 18-Mar-20 21:18
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 128 Steve Clayton 18-Mar-20 18:05
Steve 124 Warwick 18-Mar-20 18:20
Re: Steve 117 Steve Clayton 18-Mar-20 22:19
Re: Steve 122 Warwick 19-Mar-20 16:34
Re: Steve 137 Steve Clayton 19-Mar-20 17:41
Re: Steve 125 Warwick 19-Mar-20 18:04
Re: Steve 148 Warwick 19-Mar-20 18:35
Re: Water for the Giza Complex 110 Steve Clayton 30-Mar-20 16:08
English as a First Language 110 Warwick 30-Mar-20 19:15
Re: English as a First Language 111 Steve Clayton 30-Mar-20 21:24
Re: English as a First Language 105 Warwick 31-Mar-20 16:29
Re: English as a First Language 109 Steve Clayton 01-Apr-20 19:20
Re: English as a First Language 119 Warwick 02-Apr-20 18:23
Re: English as a First Language 110 Steve Clayton 02-Apr-20 22:00
Re: English as a First Language 115 Warwick 03-Apr-20 22:22
Re: English as a First Language 128 SandyJesse 03-Apr-20 22:32
Re: English as a First Language 123 Hanslune 04-Apr-20 05:08
Re: English as a First Language 117 Thanos5150 04-Apr-20 14:41
Re: English as a First Language 111 Hanslune 06-Apr-20 01:11
Re: English as a First Language 109 Thanos5150 06-Apr-20 01:45
Re: Locks and non existent water fantasy 116 Corpuscles 06-Apr-20 02:53
Re: Locks and non existent water fantasy 102 cladking 06-Apr-20 03:04
Re: Locks and non existent water fantasy 115 Corpuscles 06-Apr-20 04:25
Re: Locks and non existent water fantasy 106 cladking 06-Apr-20 14:45
Re: Locks and non existent water fantasy 113 Steve Clayton 06-Apr-20 15:52
Re: Locks and non existent water fantasy 106 Thanos5150 06-Apr-20 03:37
Re: Locks and non existent water fantasy 103 Steve Clayton 06-Apr-20 14:59
Re: Locks and non existent water fantasy 101 cladking 06-Apr-20 17:39
Re: Locks and non existent water fantasy 104 Steve Clayton 06-Apr-20 18:27
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