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Steve Clayton Wrote:
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> This can be said of any scale. Counterbalance and
> counterweight are both contained within the
> Funicular system. On the Pyramid, you have no such
> luxury, unless you are able to raise water to a
> higher elevation, and then apply it to your
> workload?

It requires far more work to be done to get water to the top of the plateau (horizon/ pavement/ ssm.t) than it does to get water to 81' 3" (heaven/ upper eye of horus/ step top). We know beyond doubt there was water at the top of the plateau but we don't know how it got there. We don't know if humans did the work or natural processes (gods). But SOMEONE OR SOMETHING had to have expended a lot of "effort" to lift this water. It required 1800 ft lbs for every gallon that got to the top. There are a very limited number of ways nature is known to create the condition of water being at such altitude. There are events (like rain) that can provide water but in order to spend 30 years in construction it could only have been a condition, a natural process. If it were such a process it stands to reason the builders not only utilized it (them) but strove to understand it.

Yes, your system of rain gathering could work in theory if they had massive amounts of storage and extensive earthworks. These are not in evidence and rain is too sporadic even in the great pyramid building age to depend on it. Perhaps you could find a nearby lake that could have been channeled and this would leave far less evidence. But none of this matters; they did have water. I merely propose that the water came in at 81' 3" from a carbonated aquifer (that still exists under Giza in all probability) that was harnessed.

Keep in mind that no matter how absurd it sounds that they STILL HAD WATER and this water required much more work to get on the plateau than was required to get it another 80'. Keep in mind that the cliff face provides far more lift than ANY WATER AT 80'. We can see the ramps and other evidence that the cliff faces were used to drag stones.

> So, raising the water is not a good option
> either. It too, would consume to much wood and
> labor.

They would not have raised water manually unless they used shadufs in the grand gallery. Generally it's harder to raise water than it is to raise stones. Of course this depends on the nature of their power source and the specific processes used to build the pyramid.

> I am redoing the Funicular, as it evolved, and
> became simpler. The concept of many barges, in
> tandem on the Causeway, greatly simplified
> matters. Shorter lengths of ropes. Barges get to
> come to rest. Allows men to return to work in the
> morning, where they left off. Water would be able
> to refill the reservoir overnight. Much less
> weight & stones per barge. 

Simple is good.

It is absolutely necessary that men have room to work and a sufficiently comfortable job to not die of heat stroke. If ten men can do a job you must employ about 30 to spell them and give them time off. Just like a modern plant uses four men for each job they'd need an absolute minimum of three. If they had any hard jobs (there was only one I can find) I'd wager they employed five men for each task since working in desert heat is very taxing.

If a task required 100 men you'd need 500 to cover it and 125 men at a time. Struggling, stumbling, and straining are NOT conducive to production as we imagine. Superstition does not provide capability. Our conception of pyramid building couldn't be more wrong.

> Even my math has to be in balance, of a realistic
> statement. I am working on it...

Math is great but is often misapplied to reality. Math says that if there only way to build pyramid is ramps then they used ramps. Math won't provide water or produce more work than the equations of physics calculate.

Man fears the pyramid, time fears man.

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A Study in Ramps 1542 Steve Clayton 01-Mar-20 17:30
Re: A Study in Ramps 241 Manu 01-Mar-20 18:25
Re: A Study in Ramps 227 Steve Clayton 01-Mar-20 20:08
Re: A Study in Ramps 217 Manu 02-Mar-20 02:31
Re: A Study in Ramps 201 Steve Clayton 02-Mar-20 04:54
Re: A Study in Ramps 215 Warwick 01-Mar-20 19:13
Re: A Study in Ramps 203 Steve Clayton 01-Mar-20 20:11
Addendum 201 Steve Clayton 01-Mar-20 22:51
Re: Addendum 215 Manu 02-Mar-20 02:22
Re: Addendum 191 Steve Clayton 02-Mar-20 04:56
Re: Addendum 196 Manu 02-Mar-20 11:15
an observation 199 Warwick 02-Mar-20 18:26
Re: an observation 206 cladking 02-Mar-20 18:38
Re: an observation 187 Warwick 02-Mar-20 18:45
Re: an observation 186 cladking 02-Mar-20 18:52
Point of Order 186 Warwick 02-Mar-20 18:56
Re: Point of Order 179 cladking 02-Mar-20 20:17
Re: Point of Order 190 Warwick 02-Mar-20 23:37
You Meant "Superstitious Idiots" As A Complement? 182 thinkitover 03-Mar-20 05:20
Re: You Meant "Superstitious Idiots" As A Complement? 178 Warwick 03-Mar-20 05:40
Re: You Meant "Superstitious Idiots" As A Complement? 173 cladking 03-Mar-20 14:08
Re: You Meant "Superstitious Idiots" As A Complement? 169 Warwick 03-Mar-20 18:45
Re: You Meant "Superstitious Idiots" As A Complement? 173 cladking 03-Mar-20 20:54
Re: You Meant "Superstitious Idiots" As A Complement? 144 cladking 11-May-20 14:33
Re: an observation 174 Steve Clayton 03-Mar-20 17:05
Re: an observation 172 Warwick 03-Mar-20 18:56
Re: an observation 164 cladking 03-Mar-20 20:57
Re: an observation 158 Warwick 04-Mar-20 17:49
Re: an observation 168 cladking 04-Mar-20 17:58
One Last Try 172 Warwick 04-Mar-20 18:04
20 % of 1.5 Million 166 Warwick 04-Mar-20 18:06
I forgot 169 Warwick 04-Mar-20 18:07
Re: One Last Try 168 cladking 04-Mar-20 18:18
Re: One Last Try 159 Warwick 04-Mar-20 18:33
Re: One Last Try 167 Steve Clayton 04-Mar-20 19:33
Re: One Last Try 168 Warwick 04-Mar-20 19:48
Re: One Last Try 161 cladking 04-Mar-20 20:04
Re: One Last Try 164 Warwick 04-Mar-20 20:21
Re: One Last Try 166 cladking 04-Mar-20 20:57
Re: One Last Try 168 Warwick 04-Mar-20 21:38
Re: It's Spring 168 Steve Clayton 05-Mar-20 13:13
Re: One Last Try 163 Steve Clayton 04-Mar-20 22:45
Re: One Last Try 167 Thanos5150 05-Mar-20 16:36
Re: One Last Try 165 cladking 05-Mar-20 16:56
Re: One Last Try 161 cladking 04-Mar-20 19:57
Re: One Last Try 158 Steve Clayton 05-Mar-20 13:54
Re: One Last Try 167 cladking 05-Mar-20 15:00
Re: an observation 174 Steve Clayton 03-Mar-20 00:36
Re: Addendum 174 SandyJesse 05-Mar-20 23:11
Re: Addendum 153 Steve Clayton 06-Mar-20 16:01
Re: Addendum 161 SandyJesse 07-Mar-20 23:16
Re: A Study in Ramps 197 cladking 01-Mar-20 22:58
Re: A Study in Ramps 187 Steve Clayton 02-Mar-20 03:31
Re: A Study in Ramps 162 cladking 02-Mar-20 18:47
Point of Order 166 Warwick 02-Mar-20 19:00
Re: Point of Order 161 cladking 02-Mar-20 20:05
Re: Point of Order 166 Warwick 02-Mar-20 23:43
Re: Point of Order 162 cladking 03-Mar-20 02:20
Re: Point of Order 165 Warwick 03-Mar-20 04:32
Re: Point of Order 159 cladking 03-Mar-20 14:40
Re: Point of Order 152 Open mind 03-Mar-20 15:14
Re: Point of Order 161 Warwick 03-Mar-20 18:37
Re: Point of Order 158 Open mind 03-Mar-20 19:14
Re: Point of Order - O/T, sort of 163 Warwick 03-Mar-20 19:52
Re: Point of Order 183 Steve Clayton 03-Mar-20 00:09
Re: Point of Order 167 thinkitover 03-Mar-20 05:27
Re: Point of Order 160 cladking 03-Mar-20 14:24
Re: Point of Order 166 Steve Clayton 03-Mar-20 19:44
Re: Point of Order 158 cladking 03-Mar-20 20:59
Re: Point of Order 160 Steve Clayton 03-Mar-20 23:34
Re: Point of Order 176 cladking 04-Mar-20 01:10
Re: Point of Order 200 Thanos5150 04-Mar-20 02:03
Re: Point of Order 166 engbren 04-Mar-20 12:46
Saw Palace Context Sign is pr wr. 185 Manu 04-Mar-20 13:12
Re: Point of Order 178 cladking 04-Mar-20 14:45
Re: Point of Order 181 Manu 04-Mar-20 14:49
Re: Point of Order 172 cladking 04-Mar-20 17:18
Re: Point of Order 165 Manu 04-Mar-20 17:36
Re: Point of Order 165 cladking 04-Mar-20 18:10
Re: Point of Order 172 cladking 07-Mar-20 21:05
Re: Point of Order 160 Steve Clayton 06-Mar-20 19:57
Re: Point of Order 155 cladking 04-Mar-20 17:15
Re: Point of Order 154 Steve Clayton 04-Mar-20 18:29
Re: Point of Order 147 cladking 04-Mar-20 18:44
Re: Point of Order 183 cladking 04-Mar-20 15:44
Re: Point of Order 183 Thanos5150 04-Mar-20 16:23
Re: Point of Order 172 cladking 04-Mar-20 16:43
Re: Point of Order 161 Thanos5150 04-Mar-20 17:38
Re: Point of Order 157 Warwick 04-Mar-20 17:46
Re: Point of Order 162 cladking 04-Mar-20 20:47
Burn all the books!!! 146 Warwick 05-Mar-20 17:46
Re: Rewrite all the books!!! 174 cladking 05-Mar-20 18:02
Re: Rewrite all the books!!! 146 Warwick 05-Mar-20 18:14
...Then We might as well just Chuck the Books. 161 cladking 05-Mar-20 18:53
Re: ...Then We might as well just Chuck the Books. 153 Warwick 05-Mar-20 20:11
Re: ...Then We might as well just Chuck the Books. 165 cladking 05-Mar-20 21:02
Re: ...Then We might as well just Chuck the Books. 162 Warwick 05-Mar-20 21:42
Re: Point of Order 162 Steve Clayton 04-Mar-20 17:58
Re: Point of Order 156 cladking 04-Mar-20 18:48
Re: Point of Order 153 Steve Clayton 06-Mar-20 16:34
Re: Point of Order 162 cladking 06-Mar-20 19:31
Re: Point of Order 153 Steve Clayton 07-Mar-20 00:47
Re: Point of Order 154 cladking 07-Mar-20 01:24
Re: Point of Order 160 Steve Clayton 07-Mar-20 17:40
Re: Point of Order 144 cladking 07-Mar-20 20:52
Re: Point of Order 164 Manu 06-Mar-20 20:31
Re: Point of Order 159 cladking 06-Mar-20 20:47
ST3W 169 Manu 06-Mar-20 21:16
Re: Point of Order 156 cladking 06-Mar-20 21:18
Ra-st3w 175 Manu 06-Mar-20 21:33
Re: Ra-st3w 167 cladking 06-Mar-20 23:08
Re: Ra-st3w 168 cladking 06-Mar-20 23:23
Re: Ra-st3w 154 cladking 09-Mar-20 03:18
Re: Point of Order 153 Steve Clayton 07-Mar-20 01:21
Re: Point of Order 159 Manu 08-Mar-20 17:24
Re: Point of Order 150 Steve Clayton 08-Mar-20 19:07
Re: Point of Order 141 Warwick 08-Mar-20 19:21
Re: Point of Order 152 cladking 08-Mar-20 21:13
Re: Point of Order 138 Steve Clayton 08-Mar-20 22:01
Re: Point of Order 157 cladking 08-Mar-20 23:12
Re: Point of Order 140 Steve Clayton 09-Mar-20 15:38
Re: Point of Order 136 cladking 09-Mar-20 17:49
Re: Point of Order 134 Steve Clayton 09-Mar-20 20:25
Re: Point of Order 153 Warwick 09-Mar-20 20:48
Re: Point of Order 152 Steve Clayton 09-Mar-20 23:12
Re: Point of Order 147 Warwick 10-Mar-20 17:01
Re: Point of Order 145 Steve Clayton 10-Mar-20 20:41
Obvious to all?? 138 Warwick 11-Mar-20 17:10
after all 141 Warwick 11-Mar-20 17:14
Re: Obvious to all?? 127 cladking 11-Mar-20 18:12
Re: Obvious to all?? 158 Warwick 11-Mar-20 18:19
Khafre Causeway-Logistics before Religion? 149 Manu 08-Mar-20 19:28
think conduit 137 Warwick 08-Mar-20 19:57
further reading 136 Warwick 08-Mar-20 20:00
Re: Khafre Causeway-Logistics before Religion? 142 Steve Clayton 08-Mar-20 20:12
Re: Point of Order 153 cladking 08-Mar-20 14:32
Re: Point of Order 158 Manu 08-Mar-20 15:01
Re: Point of Order 148 cladking 08-Mar-20 15:44
Re: Point of Order 150 Manu 08-Mar-20 16:03
Re: Point of Order 139 cladking 08-Mar-20 23:21
Re: Point of Order 155 Thanos5150 08-Mar-20 16:05
Re: Point of Order 141 Warwick 08-Mar-20 19:28
Re: Point of Order 145 cladking 08-Mar-20 21:25
Re: Point of Order 148 Steve Clayton 08-Mar-20 20:49
Re: Point of Order 139 Warwick 08-Mar-20 20:59
Re: Point of Order 151 Steve Clayton 08-Mar-20 22:08
Re: Point of Order 146 cladking 08-Mar-20 23:16
Re: Point of Order 143 Warwick 09-Mar-20 17:39
Re: Point of Order 146 cladking 08-Mar-20 21:05
Re: Point of Order 158 Steve Clayton 03-Mar-20 16:44
Re: Point of Order 141 cladking 03-Mar-20 21:03
Re: Point of Order 141 Steve Clayton 04-Mar-20 17:40
Re: Point of Order 142 cladking 04-Mar-20 19:09
Re: Point of Order 139 Steve Clayton 05-Mar-20 17:03
Re: Point of Order 138 cladking 05-Mar-20 17:52
A stupid question 152 Warwick 05-Mar-20 17:55
Re: A stupid question 142 cladking 05-Mar-20 18:47
Re: A stupid question 154 Steve Clayton 06-Mar-20 17:49
Re: A stupid question 147 Warwick 07-Mar-20 19:14
Re: A stupid question 147 Steve Clayton 07-Mar-20 23:09
Re: A stupid question 135 Warwick 08-Mar-20 18:41
Re: Point of Order 158 Open mind 03-Mar-20 15:26
Re: Point of Order 149 cladking 03-Mar-20 21:07
Re: A Study in Ramps 150 Steve Clayton 03-Mar-20 17:29
Re: A Study in Ramps 158 cladking 03-Mar-20 21:11
Re: A Study in Ramps 144 Steve Clayton 07-Mar-20 18:12
Re: A Study in Ramps 169 Thanos5150 03-Mar-20 16:10
Re: A Study in Ramps 169 Steve Clayton 03-Mar-20 16:57
Re: A Study in Ramps 160 Warwick 03-Mar-20 19:57
Re: A Study in Ramps 160 cladking 03-Mar-20 21:21
Sam Briefly changes Feet 154 Warwick 04-Mar-20 17:27
Re: Sam Briefly changes Feet 145 cladking 04-Mar-20 17:49
Re: Sam Briefly changes Feet 149 Warwick 04-Mar-20 18:12
Rollers and Rope 162 Steve Clayton 04-Mar-20 16:41
Re: Rollers and Rope 139 Open mind 04-Mar-20 16:53
Re: Rollers and Rope 152 Steve Clayton 04-Mar-20 22:22
Re: Rollers and Rope 153 Open mind 05-Mar-20 01:25
Re: Rollers and Rope 139 Steve Clayton 05-Mar-20 15:34
Re: Rollers and Rope 154 Open mind 05-Mar-20 16:08
Re: Rollers and Rope 145 cladking 05-Mar-20 16:32
Re: Rollers and Rope 143 Open mind 05-Mar-20 18:26
Re: Rollers and Rope 145 Open mind 05-Mar-20 18:40
Re: Rollers and Rope 145 cladking 05-Mar-20 21:13
Re: Rollers and Rope 137 Steve Clayton 06-Mar-20 16:14
Re: Rollers and Rope 158 Steve Clayton 06-Mar-20 02:11
Re: Rollers and Rope 167 cladking 06-Mar-20 15:09
Re: Rollers and Rope 146 Open mind 07-Mar-20 01:35
Re: Rollers and Rope 152 cladking 04-Mar-20 17:37
Re: Rollers and Rope 142 Open mind 04-Mar-20 19:18
Re: Rollers and Rope 156 cladking 04-Mar-20 19:30
Re: Rollers and Rope 150 Open mind 04-Mar-20 21:29
Re: Rollers and Rope 158 Warwick 04-Mar-20 21:35
Re: Rollers and Rope 146 Open mind 04-Mar-20 22:24
Re: Rollers and Rope 153 cladking 04-Mar-20 22:31
Re: Rollers and Rope 155 cladking 04-Mar-20 22:35
Re: Rollers and Rope 156 Steve Clayton 08-Mar-20 01:03
Re: Rollers and Rope 139 Warwick 08-Mar-20 18:46
Re: Rollers and Rope 152 Steve Clayton 08-Mar-20 21:34
Re: Rollers and Rope 158 Thanos5150 09-Mar-20 00:59
Re: Rollers and Rope 152 Steve Clayton 09-Mar-20 14:15
Re: Rollers and Rope 142 Warwick 09-Mar-20 17:53
Re: Rollers and Rope 142 Open mind 09-Mar-20 18:10
Re: Rollers and Rope 142 Warwick 09-Mar-20 18:27
Re: Rollers and Rope 149 Steve Clayton 08-Mar-20 01:55
Re: Rollers and Rope 151 cladking 04-Mar-20 22:23
Re: Rollers and Rope 149 Open mind 04-Mar-20 22:30
Re: Rollers and Rope 143 cladking 04-Mar-20 22:50
Re: Rollers and Rope 152 Steve Clayton 04-Mar-20 23:06
Re: Rollers and Rope 148 cladking 05-Mar-20 01:01
Re: Rollers and Rope 150 Open mind 05-Mar-20 01:10
Re: Rollers and Rope 147 Steve Clayton 05-Mar-20 00:10
Re: Rollers and Rope 149 Open mind 05-Mar-20 00:52
Re: Rollers and Rope 153 Steve Clayton 05-Mar-20 16:04
Re: Rollers and Rope 143 Open mind 05-Mar-20 18:13
Re: Rollers and Rope 150 Steve Clayton 05-Mar-20 19:10
Khufu Quarry Ramp, G1-X and T.P.'s 176 Manu 08-Mar-20 22:32
Re: Khufu Quarry Ramp, G1-X and T.P.'s 160 Steve Clayton 08-Mar-20 23:22
Re: A Study in Ramps 174 Steve Clayton 04-Apr-20 22:14
Re: A Study in Ramps 181 cladking 11-May-20 14:42
Re: A Study in Ramps 143 Steve Clayton 13-May-20 03:06
Re: A Study in Ramps 132 Hanslune 13-May-20 19:58
Re: A Study in Ramps 121 cladking 14-May-20 13:48
The reason you always refused to provide drawings of your ideas 120 Hanslune 14-May-20 21:22
Re: The reason you always refused to provide drawings of your ideas 112 cladking 15-May-20 14:34
Re: The reason you always refused to provide drawings of your ideas 118 Hanslune 15-May-20 15:25
Re: The reason you always refused to provide drawings of your ideas 130 cladking 15-May-20 17:46
...and he's off and running 150 Hanslune 16-May-20 17:12
Re: ...and he's off and running 118 Steve Clayton 18-May-20 18:56
Re: ...and he's off and running 113 Warwick 18-May-20 19:47
Re: ...and he's off and running 115 Steve Clayton 18-May-20 20:31
Re: ...and he's off and running 117 Hanslune 18-May-20 22:01
Re: ...and he's off and running 120 Steve Clayton 20-May-20 22:37
Re: ...and he's off and running 100 Warwick 21-May-20 17:28
Re: ...and he's off and running 123 cladking 18-May-20 20:58
Re: ...and he's off and running 115 Hanslune 18-May-20 22:16
Re: ...and he's off and running 111 Steve Clayton 21-May-20 00:06
Re: ...and he's off and running 113 Sirfiroth 21-May-20 16:56
Re: ...and he's off and running 105 Warwick 21-May-20 17:40
Re: ...and he's off and running 150 Sirfiroth 21-May-20 20:44
Re: ...and he's off and running 119 Warwick 22-May-20 02:53
Re: ...and he's off and running 133 Steve Clayton 27-May-20 23:04
Elementary 102 Warwick 28-May-20 16:56
Re: Elementary 106 cladking 28-May-20 20:36
Re: Elementary 103 Warwick 28-May-20 20:51
Walk Like an Egypt(ologist). 123 cladking 29-May-20 13:48
just saw this 100 Warwick 04-Jun-20 20:02
Re: just saw this 97 cladking 04-Jun-20 20:15
Re: Elementary 115 Steve Clayton 28-May-20 21:59
Re: Elementary 104 cladking 29-May-20 13:41
Re: Elementary 113 Steve Clayton 30-May-20 14:14
Re: Elementary 101 cladking 31-May-20 13:37
Re: Elementary 117 Steve Clayton 31-May-20 20:03
Re: Elementary 106 cladking 31-May-20 21:55
Our History is Writ in the Rainbow. 96 cladking 01-Jun-20 14:32
still avoiding the POINT 95 Warwick 01-Jun-20 18:46
Re: still avoiding the POINT 109 cladking 01-Jun-20 21:19
It was the BORG 90 Warwick 02-Jun-20 19:02
Reality Itself was Anthropomorphized 119 cladking 03-Jun-20 01:10
Re: Reality Itself was Anthropomorphized 96 Warwick 03-Jun-20 17:35
Re: Reality Itself was Anthropomorphized 108 cladking 03-Jun-20 19:11
Can We Get Back to Chasing Rainbows? :-) 97 thinkitover 04-Jun-20 08:41
Re: Can We Get Back to Chasing Rainbows? :-) 93 cladking 04-Jun-20 13:38
Re: Can We Get Back to Chasing Rainbows? :-) 83 Warwick 04-Jun-20 17:28
Re: Can We Get Back to Chasing Rainbows? :-) 94 cladking 04-Jun-20 20:37
Re: Can We Get Back to Chasing Rainbows? :-) 95 Warwick 04-Jun-20 21:24
Re: Can We Get Back to Chasing Rainbows? :-) 106 cladking 04-Jun-20 21:48
Re: still avoiding the POINT 109 Steve Clayton 02-Jun-20 16:37
Re: still avoiding the POINT 99 cladking 02-Jun-20 18:45
Re: still avoiding the POINT 85 Warwick 02-Jun-20 18:55
Re: still avoiding the POINT 103 Steve Clayton 02-Jun-20 20:42
Re: still avoiding the POINT 87 Warwick 02-Jun-20 21:11
Re: still avoiding the POINT 107 Steve Clayton 02-Jun-20 23:05
Doing your work for you 100 Warwick 03-Jun-20 17:56
Re: Doing your work for you 107 Steve Clayton 04-Jun-20 02:12
Re: Doing your work for you 86 Warwick 04-Jun-20 18:03
Re: Doing your work for you 104 Steve Clayton 07-Jun-20 22:14
Re: Doing your work for you 106 Warwick 08-Jun-20 19:47
Re: still avoiding the POINT 123 SandyJesse 13-Jun-20 23:15
Re: still avoiding the POINT 131 Steve Clayton 14-Jun-20 23:19
Re: still avoiding the POINT 152 SandyJesse 18-Jun-20 22:49
Help!!!! 111 Warwick 21-May-20 17:33
Good luck Steve 113 Hanslune 18-May-20 21:55
Re: A Study in Ramps 132 cladking 14-May-20 13:57
Key words run through a database isn't research Cladking 114 Hanslune 14-May-20 21:51
Re: A Study in Ramps 168 LonelyAngel 14-May-20 16:31
Re: A Study in Ramps 123 Hanslune 14-May-20 21:56
Re: A Study in Ramps 115 Steve Clayton 18-May-20 21:53
Re: A Study in Ramps 119 Hanslune 18-May-20 22:20
Re: A Study in Ramps 136 Steve Clayton 19-May-20 01:16
Re: A Study in Ramps 125 Hanslune 19-May-20 14:45
Re: A Study in Ramps 134 Steve Clayton 19-May-20 16:07
Please, leave the windmills to Sam 119 Warwick 19-May-20 18:34
Re: Please, leave the windmills to Sam 123 Steve Clayton 19-May-20 20:05
Re: Please, leave the windmills to Sam 112 Warwick 19-May-20 20:55
Re: Please, leave the windmills to Sam 134 Steve Clayton 19-May-20 21:33
Re: Please, leave the windmills to Sam 118 cladking 20-May-20 02:47
Your lack of evidence isn't a problem you can put on others - its yours 121 Hanslune 20-May-20 04:58
Egyptology's Cultural Context 121 cladking 20-May-20 13:53
Ramp theory vs Geyser powered Funicular idea 116 Hanslune 20-May-20 15:43
Re: Ramp theory vs Geyser powered Funicular idea 113 cladking 20-May-20 17:17
Re: Ramp theory vs Geyser powered Funicular idea 117 Hanslune 22-May-20 17:02
Re: Ramp theory vs Geyser powered Funicular idea 120 Warwick 24-May-20 18:13
Re: Ramp theory vs Geyser powered Funicular idea 116 cladking 24-May-20 19:18
In normal conversation... 116 Warwick 24-May-20 19:52
Re: In normal conversation... 145 cladking 25-May-20 01:06
Another final word (waste of time) 138 Warwick 25-May-20 17:52
Re: Another final word (waste of time) 101 Hanslune 26-May-20 14:59
Re: Another final word (waste of time) 124 cladking 26-May-20 15:11
Re: Ramp theory vs Geyser powered Funicular idea 128 Steve Clayton 30-May-20 15:27
Long Live Ramps! 97 cladking 31-May-20 14:05
Re: Egyptology's Cultural Context 103 Warwick 20-May-20 18:05
Re: Egyptology's Cultural Context 121 cladking 20-May-20 20:37
Re: Egyptology's Cultural Context 103 Warwick 20-May-20 21:55
Re: Egyptology's Cultural Context 119 cladking 21-May-20 01:01
Re: Egyptology's Cultural Context 107 Warwick 21-May-20 17:17
Re: Please, leave the windmills to Sam 110 Warwick 20-May-20 18:03
REALITY CHECK 127 Warwick 20-May-20 18:02
Re: REALITY CHECK 117 Steve Clayton 20-May-20 20:28
Re: REALITY CHECK 114 Warwick 20-May-20 22:04
Re: REALITY CHECK 116 Steve Clayton 20-May-20 23:53
Re: REALITY CHECK 105 Warwick 21-May-20 17:12
My boy Luke can eat 50 eggs. n/t 116 cladking 21-May-20 01:08
Re: A Study in Ramps 123 Hanslune 20-May-20 04:53
The trouble is.. 110 Warwick 20-May-20 18:09
Re: The trouble is.. 124 Steve Clayton 20-May-20 20:15
Re: The trouble is.. 109 Warwick 20-May-20 22:16
Re: A Study in Ramps 125 Steve Clayton 20-May-20 19:13
Re: A Study in Ramps 108 Warwick 20-May-20 22:20
Re: A Study in Ramps 118 Steve Clayton 20-May-20 22:46
Re: A Study in Ramps 127 SandyJesse 21-May-20 00:08
Re: A Study in Ramps 125 Steve Clayton 21-May-20 03:19
Re: A Study in Ramps 129 SandyJesse 21-May-20 04:17
Re: A Study in Ramps 126 Steve Clayton 21-May-20 14:19
Re: A Study in Ramps 117 cladking 21-May-20 14:37
Re: A Study in Ramps 118 cladking 21-May-20 14:53
Re: A Study in Ramps 139 Steve Clayton 21-May-20 15:38
there's the windmill 117 Warwick 21-May-20 17:05
Re: there's the windmill 121 cladking 22-May-20 13:24
Re: there's the windmill 110 Warwick 25-May-20 17:39
Re: there's the windmill 105 cladking 30-May-20 14:11
Re: A Study in Ramps 124 Hanslune 22-May-20 17:39
Re: A Study in Ramps 121 SandyJesse 21-May-20 15:47
Re: A Study in Ramps 134 Steve Clayton 21-May-20 16:09
Re: A Study in Ramps 120 Warwick 21-May-20 16:46
Re: A Study in Ramps 125 Warwick 21-May-20 17:44
Re: A Study in Ramps 110 Warwick 21-May-20 16:57
Re: A Study in Ramps 110 Warwick 21-May-20 16:40
Re: A Study in Ramps 118 Warwick 21-May-20 16:39
Re: A Study in Ramps 122 Hanslune 22-May-20 17:32
Re: A Study in Ramps 203 Thanos5150 23-May-20 00:00
Re: A Study in Ramps 121 Warwick 24-May-20 18:02
Re: A Study in Ramps 124 cladking 24-May-20 19:22
I've got an idea 112 Warwick 24-May-20 19:47
Re: I've got an idea 119 cladking 24-May-20 19:59
Re: I've got an idea 112 Warwick 25-May-20 17:30


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