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Author: Manu ()
Date: March 08, 2020 05:24PM
Steve Clayton Wrote:

>  
> These are not the kind of ramps I was bitching
> about. For all I know, they could have been
> disability ramps, leading into those structures. A
> promenade entrance? OK, they also served to help
> build the structures. There is evidence of ramps.
> Just not for G1 and G2. There was a downhill
> ramp/path reaching the backside of Kufu's Pyramid.
> They took block from what is known as the
> chocolate quarry, next to Kafreys Pyramid.
>
> Other than that, I have seen no evidence ramps
> were used in a spiral or switchback fashion.

>Steve, there is no evidence for a spiral ramp either exterior or interior, I completely agree. However, there is evidence for a ramp which led out of the Khufu quarry towards the west side of the growing pyramid. That ramp could have supported construction of the first few stone courses. The evidence for this ramp is indisputable, Steve. I think your model is very promising for what happened after this initial ramp's ability was exhausted. In fact, I think that the builders themselves came up against this very same decision. They had to decide whether to continue run a full-size ramp around to haul stones, or to run a ledge around wide enough to support another infra-structure and method along the lines of what you propose. They understood, as you have, that the human and material cost of the latter option meant the difference between success and failure to finish this monument in time for....(fill in your favorite reason).

>There is a good template for this from the First Dynasty published by Rinus Ormeling. Ormeling looked at the niched mastabas at Saqqara before the one from the reign of Horus-Den, when a stair-case to the burial chamber was first conceived. Why? Because the architect realized that your could save time by working simultaneously on the tumulus above and the apartments of the occupant below. What drove this innovation? Time pressure and the royal occupants' ever increasing desire to build ever more lavish mansions for the afterlife. This is the same general driver of what you have also picked up on here at Giza. This is a riddle of efficiency. My hunch is that course #35 is a major plot point in this story.

Manu

Hi Manu,

I agree with much here, as you have outlined. These current illustration(s) were born out of  those who do not believe "water" was employed in the construction of the Giza Pyramids. I wanted to show, even without water, it could be done. Which in turn completely negates the need for Ramps.

A few years ago, I came to the realization, that there was more to the Khafre's Causeway, than what  Egyptology proposed. They postulated it was built for a religious purpose. It may have served in that purpose, though only once the Pyramids were completed. Re purposed if you will. Why would you need two causeways, each of which is nearly 30 feet wide, for a religious ceremony. It struck me as a stretch in logic. Do we not go up and return on the same paths?

And, why is there a middle lower indentation, 5-6 feet wide? What purpose would that serve? I am mentioning all of this, because I believe the Causeway(s) are all at a 4.6 degree slope. Find me one which isn't. We spent months looking around at other Pyramids in Egypt, and they all have the same slope, 4.6 degrees. I applied that to Kufu's Causeway, and where it should end, argued it was not bent, and published that location here on GH.  Low and behold, months later an Egyptian was arrested after finding the "straight" causeway beneath his? house.  That's a fact. It was not hard to do. I simply used Google Earth, and plotted a line from his Temple, and where it would end, based on the 4.6 angle.

There are 29-30 foot walls surrounding G1 and G2. Why would they go to all that trouble? Well, Egyptologist say for a religious purpose. This is what they say, every time they have no logical answer... It had to do with their religion...

Those heavier blocks were placed using short ramps. Once they were in place,  they switched over to smaller blocks. Smaller blocks which could be lifted quicker and in larger numbers. Why drag any block, when you have in place, the ability to use water and gravity.  The same barges which carried the stone down the Nile, were constructed in such a fashion, to be waterproofed inside and out. 
 
In comes the Water Funicular. [www.youtube.com]
If you have water, polished surfaces on the the Causeway, short pieces of rope between the barges, you do not need to drag stones up any hill. Now I am a little of topic, but those walls contained water, and there is evidence of that.

I have an  abundance of drawings showing this, backed up by math, incline plains and the necessary size of each engineered barge to be used on a Funicular Causeway. It all fits like a glove. I did have a problem, attempting to use the causeway to lift the stones up the face of the Pyramids, thou that would not be required, as I have illustrated within this Topic. A Study of Ramps. I worked with Professors & Engineers to refine these ideas. Spent money, resolving these issues.

It is all feasible.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 08-Mar-20 19:55 by Steve Clayton.

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A Study in Ramps 1297 Steve Clayton 01-Mar-20 17:30
Re: A Study in Ramps 171 Manu 01-Mar-20 18:25
Re: A Study in Ramps 159 Steve Clayton 01-Mar-20 20:08
Re: A Study in Ramps 147 Manu 02-Mar-20 02:31
Re: A Study in Ramps 130 Steve Clayton 02-Mar-20 04:54
Re: A Study in Ramps 150 Warwick 01-Mar-20 19:13
Re: A Study in Ramps 132 Steve Clayton 01-Mar-20 20:11
Addendum 131 Steve Clayton 01-Mar-20 22:51
Re: Addendum 136 Manu 02-Mar-20 02:22
Re: Addendum 127 Steve Clayton 02-Mar-20 04:56
Re: Addendum 127 Manu 02-Mar-20 11:15
an observation 135 Warwick 02-Mar-20 18:26
Re: an observation 128 cladking 02-Mar-20 18:38
Re: an observation 115 Warwick 02-Mar-20 18:45
Re: an observation 119 cladking 02-Mar-20 18:52
Point of Order 119 Warwick 02-Mar-20 18:56
Re: Point of Order 104 cladking 02-Mar-20 20:17
Re: Point of Order 118 Warwick 02-Mar-20 23:37
You Meant "Superstitious Idiots" As A Complement? 113 thinkitover 03-Mar-20 05:20
Re: You Meant "Superstitious Idiots" As A Complement? 108 Warwick 03-Mar-20 05:40
Re: You Meant "Superstitious Idiots" As A Complement? 102 cladking 03-Mar-20 14:08
Re: You Meant "Superstitious Idiots" As A Complement? 100 Warwick 03-Mar-20 18:45
Re: You Meant "Superstitious Idiots" As A Complement? 106 cladking 03-Mar-20 20:54
Re: You Meant "Superstitious Idiots" As A Complement? 74 cladking 11-May-20 14:33
Re: an observation 109 Steve Clayton 03-Mar-20 17:05
Re: an observation 101 Warwick 03-Mar-20 18:56
Re: an observation 93 cladking 03-Mar-20 20:57
Re: an observation 96 Warwick 04-Mar-20 17:49
Re: an observation 93 cladking 04-Mar-20 17:58
One Last Try 102 Warwick 04-Mar-20 18:04
20 % of 1.5 Million 102 Warwick 04-Mar-20 18:06
I forgot 99 Warwick 04-Mar-20 18:07
Re: One Last Try 101 cladking 04-Mar-20 18:18
Re: One Last Try 97 Warwick 04-Mar-20 18:33
Re: One Last Try 96 Steve Clayton 04-Mar-20 19:33
Re: One Last Try 97 Warwick 04-Mar-20 19:48
Re: One Last Try 94 cladking 04-Mar-20 20:04
Re: One Last Try 99 Warwick 04-Mar-20 20:21
Re: One Last Try 94 cladking 04-Mar-20 20:57
Re: One Last Try 100 Warwick 04-Mar-20 21:38
Re: It's Spring 93 Steve Clayton 05-Mar-20 13:13
Re: One Last Try 97 Steve Clayton 04-Mar-20 22:45
Re: One Last Try 101 Thanos5150 05-Mar-20 16:36
Re: One Last Try 94 cladking 05-Mar-20 16:56
Re: One Last Try 87 cladking 04-Mar-20 19:57
Re: One Last Try 90 Steve Clayton 05-Mar-20 13:54
Re: One Last Try 95 cladking 05-Mar-20 15:00
Re: an observation 107 Steve Clayton 03-Mar-20 00:36
Re: Addendum 105 SandyJesse 05-Mar-20 23:11
Re: Addendum 87 Steve Clayton 06-Mar-20 16:01
Re: Addendum 89 SandyJesse 07-Mar-20 23:16
Re: A Study in Ramps 127 cladking 01-Mar-20 22:58
Re: A Study in Ramps 117 Steve Clayton 02-Mar-20 03:31
Re: A Study in Ramps 95 cladking 02-Mar-20 18:47
Point of Order 103 Warwick 02-Mar-20 19:00
Re: Point of Order 95 cladking 02-Mar-20 20:05
Re: Point of Order 97 Warwick 02-Mar-20 23:43
Re: Point of Order 93 cladking 03-Mar-20 02:20
Re: Point of Order 94 Warwick 03-Mar-20 04:32
Re: Point of Order 92 cladking 03-Mar-20 14:40
Re: Point of Order 89 Open mind 03-Mar-20 15:14
Re: Point of Order 95 Warwick 03-Mar-20 18:37
Re: Point of Order 91 Open mind 03-Mar-20 19:14
Re: Point of Order - O/T, sort of 94 Warwick 03-Mar-20 19:52
Re: Point of Order 111 Steve Clayton 03-Mar-20 00:09
Re: Point of Order 99 thinkitover 03-Mar-20 05:27
Re: Point of Order 96 cladking 03-Mar-20 14:24
Re: Point of Order 100 Steve Clayton 03-Mar-20 19:44
Re: Point of Order 91 cladking 03-Mar-20 20:59
Re: Point of Order 95 Steve Clayton 03-Mar-20 23:34
Re: Point of Order 104 cladking 04-Mar-20 01:10
Re: Point of Order 127 Thanos5150 04-Mar-20 02:03
Re: Point of Order 93 engbren 04-Mar-20 12:46
Saw Palace Context Sign is pr wr. 117 Manu 04-Mar-20 13:12
Re: Point of Order 102 cladking 04-Mar-20 14:45
Re: Point of Order 110 Manu 04-Mar-20 14:49
Re: Point of Order 101 cladking 04-Mar-20 17:18
Re: Point of Order 96 Manu 04-Mar-20 17:36
Re: Point of Order 98 cladking 04-Mar-20 18:10
Re: Point of Order 96 cladking 07-Mar-20 21:05
Re: Point of Order 87 Steve Clayton 06-Mar-20 19:57
Re: Point of Order 86 cladking 04-Mar-20 17:15
Re: Point of Order 87 Steve Clayton 04-Mar-20 18:29
Re: Point of Order 83 cladking 04-Mar-20 18:44
Re: Point of Order 119 cladking 04-Mar-20 15:44
Re: Point of Order 107 Thanos5150 04-Mar-20 16:23
Re: Point of Order 104 cladking 04-Mar-20 16:43
Re: Point of Order 94 Thanos5150 04-Mar-20 17:38
Re: Point of Order 93 Warwick 04-Mar-20 17:46
Re: Point of Order 97 cladking 04-Mar-20 20:47
Burn all the books!!! 85 Warwick 05-Mar-20 17:46
Re: Rewrite all the books!!! 100 cladking 05-Mar-20 18:02
Re: Rewrite all the books!!! 86 Warwick 05-Mar-20 18:14
...Then We might as well just Chuck the Books. 88 cladking 05-Mar-20 18:53
Re: ...Then We might as well just Chuck the Books. 83 Warwick 05-Mar-20 20:11
Re: ...Then We might as well just Chuck the Books. 94 cladking 05-Mar-20 21:02
Re: ...Then We might as well just Chuck the Books. 90 Warwick 05-Mar-20 21:42
Re: Point of Order 93 Steve Clayton 04-Mar-20 17:58
Re: Point of Order 87 cladking 04-Mar-20 18:48
Re: Point of Order 88 Steve Clayton 06-Mar-20 16:34
Re: Point of Order 88 cladking 06-Mar-20 19:31
Re: Point of Order 88 Steve Clayton 07-Mar-20 00:47
Re: Point of Order 79 cladking 07-Mar-20 01:24
Re: Point of Order 86 Steve Clayton 07-Mar-20 17:40
Re: Point of Order 80 cladking 07-Mar-20 20:52
Re: Point of Order 92 Manu 06-Mar-20 20:31
Re: Point of Order 85 cladking 06-Mar-20 20:47
ST3W 92 Manu 06-Mar-20 21:16
Re: Point of Order 87 cladking 06-Mar-20 21:18
Ra-st3w 103 Manu 06-Mar-20 21:33
Re: Ra-st3w 97 cladking 06-Mar-20 23:08
Re: Ra-st3w 99 cladking 06-Mar-20 23:23
Re: Ra-st3w 91 cladking 09-Mar-20 03:18
Re: Point of Order 86 Steve Clayton 07-Mar-20 01:21
Re: Point of Order 90 Manu 08-Mar-20 17:24
Re: Point of Order 79 Steve Clayton 08-Mar-20 19:07
Re: Point of Order 83 Warwick 08-Mar-20 19:21
Re: Point of Order 87 cladking 08-Mar-20 21:13
Re: Point of Order 82 Steve Clayton 08-Mar-20 22:01
Re: Point of Order 92 cladking 08-Mar-20 23:12
Re: Point of Order 82 Steve Clayton 09-Mar-20 15:38
Re: Point of Order 76 cladking 09-Mar-20 17:49
Re: Point of Order 78 Steve Clayton 09-Mar-20 20:25
Re: Point of Order 90 Warwick 09-Mar-20 20:48
Re: Point of Order 89 Steve Clayton 09-Mar-20 23:12
Re: Point of Order 85 Warwick 10-Mar-20 17:01
Re: Point of Order 86 Steve Clayton 10-Mar-20 20:41
Obvious to all?? 84 Warwick 11-Mar-20 17:10
after all 82 Warwick 11-Mar-20 17:14
Re: Obvious to all?? 73 cladking 11-Mar-20 18:12
Re: Obvious to all?? 98 Warwick 11-Mar-20 18:19
Khafre Causeway-Logistics before Religion? 87 Manu 08-Mar-20 19:28
think conduit 81 Warwick 08-Mar-20 19:57
further reading 80 Warwick 08-Mar-20 20:00
Re: Khafre Causeway-Logistics before Religion? 80 Steve Clayton 08-Mar-20 20:12
Re: Point of Order 84 cladking 08-Mar-20 14:32
Re: Point of Order 93 Manu 08-Mar-20 15:01
Re: Point of Order 85 cladking 08-Mar-20 15:44
Re: Point of Order 89 Manu 08-Mar-20 16:03
Re: Point of Order 82 cladking 08-Mar-20 23:21
Re: Point of Order 93 Thanos5150 08-Mar-20 16:05
Re: Point of Order 80 Warwick 08-Mar-20 19:28
Re: Point of Order 82 cladking 08-Mar-20 21:25
Re: Point of Order 84 Steve Clayton 08-Mar-20 20:49
Re: Point of Order 79 Warwick 08-Mar-20 20:59
Re: Point of Order 88 Steve Clayton 08-Mar-20 22:08
Re: Point of Order 81 cladking 08-Mar-20 23:16
Re: Point of Order 83 Warwick 09-Mar-20 17:39
Re: Point of Order 84 cladking 08-Mar-20 21:05
Re: Point of Order 93 Steve Clayton 03-Mar-20 16:44
Re: Point of Order 81 cladking 03-Mar-20 21:03
Re: Point of Order 80 Steve Clayton 04-Mar-20 17:40
Re: Point of Order 83 cladking 04-Mar-20 19:09
Re: Point of Order 84 Steve Clayton 05-Mar-20 17:03
Re: Point of Order 81 cladking 05-Mar-20 17:52
A stupid question 92 Warwick 05-Mar-20 17:55
Re: A stupid question 83 cladking 05-Mar-20 18:47
Re: A stupid question 94 Steve Clayton 06-Mar-20 17:49
Re: A stupid question 85 Warwick 07-Mar-20 19:14
Re: A stupid question 85 Steve Clayton 07-Mar-20 23:09
Re: A stupid question 79 Warwick 08-Mar-20 18:41
Re: Point of Order 95 Open mind 03-Mar-20 15:26
Re: Point of Order 83 cladking 03-Mar-20 21:07
Re: A Study in Ramps 94 Steve Clayton 03-Mar-20 17:29
Re: A Study in Ramps 89 cladking 03-Mar-20 21:11
Re: A Study in Ramps 81 Steve Clayton 07-Mar-20 18:12
Re: A Study in Ramps 107 Thanos5150 03-Mar-20 16:10
Re: A Study in Ramps 104 Steve Clayton 03-Mar-20 16:57
Re: A Study in Ramps 98 Warwick 03-Mar-20 19:57
Re: A Study in Ramps 102 cladking 03-Mar-20 21:21
Sam Briefly changes Feet 91 Warwick 04-Mar-20 17:27
Re: Sam Briefly changes Feet 85 cladking 04-Mar-20 17:49
Re: Sam Briefly changes Feet 89 Warwick 04-Mar-20 18:12
Rollers and Rope 98 Steve Clayton 04-Mar-20 16:41
Re: Rollers and Rope 83 Open mind 04-Mar-20 16:53
Re: Rollers and Rope 89 Steve Clayton 04-Mar-20 22:22
Re: Rollers and Rope 89 Open mind 05-Mar-20 01:25
Re: Rollers and Rope 84 Steve Clayton 05-Mar-20 15:34
Re: Rollers and Rope 87 Open mind 05-Mar-20 16:08
Re: Rollers and Rope 85 cladking 05-Mar-20 16:32
Re: Rollers and Rope 84 Open mind 05-Mar-20 18:26
Re: Rollers and Rope 85 Open mind 05-Mar-20 18:40
Re: Rollers and Rope 90 cladking 05-Mar-20 21:13
Re: Rollers and Rope 77 Steve Clayton 06-Mar-20 16:14
Re: Rollers and Rope 97 Steve Clayton 06-Mar-20 02:11
Re: Rollers and Rope 106 cladking 06-Mar-20 15:09
Re: Rollers and Rope 90 Open mind 07-Mar-20 01:35
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Re: Rollers and Rope 84 Open mind 04-Mar-20 19:18
Re: Rollers and Rope 89 cladking 04-Mar-20 19:30
Re: Rollers and Rope 88 Open mind 04-Mar-20 21:29
Re: Rollers and Rope 94 Warwick 04-Mar-20 21:35
Re: Rollers and Rope 83 Open mind 04-Mar-20 22:24
Re: Rollers and Rope 85 cladking 04-Mar-20 22:31
Re: Rollers and Rope 92 cladking 04-Mar-20 22:35
Re: Rollers and Rope 98 Steve Clayton 08-Mar-20 01:03
Re: Rollers and Rope 86 Warwick 08-Mar-20 18:46
Re: Rollers and Rope 88 Steve Clayton 08-Mar-20 21:34
Re: Rollers and Rope 97 Thanos5150 09-Mar-20 00:59
Re: Rollers and Rope 95 Steve Clayton 09-Mar-20 14:15
Re: Rollers and Rope 85 Warwick 09-Mar-20 17:53
Re: Rollers and Rope 83 Open mind 09-Mar-20 18:10
Re: Rollers and Rope 89 Warwick 09-Mar-20 18:27
Re: Rollers and Rope 92 Steve Clayton 08-Mar-20 01:55
Re: Rollers and Rope 91 cladking 04-Mar-20 22:23
Re: Rollers and Rope 87 Open mind 04-Mar-20 22:30
Re: Rollers and Rope 85 cladking 04-Mar-20 22:50
Re: Rollers and Rope 93 Steve Clayton 04-Mar-20 23:06
Re: Rollers and Rope 86 cladking 05-Mar-20 01:01
Re: Rollers and Rope 86 Open mind 05-Mar-20 01:10
Re: Rollers and Rope 91 Steve Clayton 05-Mar-20 00:10
Re: Rollers and Rope 88 Open mind 05-Mar-20 00:52
Re: Rollers and Rope 88 Steve Clayton 05-Mar-20 16:04
Re: Rollers and Rope 89 Open mind 05-Mar-20 18:13
Re: Rollers and Rope 91 Steve Clayton 05-Mar-20 19:10
Khufu Quarry Ramp, G1-X and T.P.'s 115 Manu 08-Mar-20 22:32
Re: Khufu Quarry Ramp, G1-X and T.P.'s 92 Steve Clayton 08-Mar-20 23:22
Re: A Study in Ramps 107 Steve Clayton 04-Apr-20 22:14
Re: A Study in Ramps 98 cladking 11-May-20 14:42
Re: A Study in Ramps 82 Steve Clayton 13-May-20 03:06
Re: A Study in Ramps 64 Hanslune 13-May-20 19:58
Re: A Study in Ramps 59 cladking 14-May-20 13:48
The reason you always refused to provide drawings of your ideas 58 Hanslune 14-May-20 21:22
Re: The reason you always refused to provide drawings of your ideas 55 cladking 15-May-20 14:34
Re: The reason you always refused to provide drawings of your ideas 60 Hanslune 15-May-20 15:25
Re: The reason you always refused to provide drawings of your ideas 63 cladking 15-May-20 17:46
...and he's off and running 80 Hanslune 16-May-20 17:12
Re: ...and he's off and running 59 Steve Clayton 18-May-20 18:56
Re: ...and he's off and running 57 Warwick 18-May-20 19:47
Re: ...and he's off and running 53 Steve Clayton 18-May-20 20:31
Re: ...and he's off and running 55 Hanslune 18-May-20 22:01
Re: ...and he's off and running 45 Steve Clayton 20-May-20 22:37
Re: ...and he's off and running 45 Warwick 21-May-20 17:28
Re: ...and he's off and running 58 cladking 18-May-20 20:58
Re: ...and he's off and running 51 Hanslune 18-May-20 22:16
Re: ...and he's off and running 45 Steve Clayton 21-May-20 00:06
Re: ...and he's off and running 53 Sirfiroth 21-May-20 16:56
Re: ...and he's off and running 50 Warwick 21-May-20 17:40
Re: ...and he's off and running 82 Sirfiroth 21-May-20 20:44
Re: ...and he's off and running 58 Warwick 22-May-20 02:53
Re: ...and he's off and running 56 Steve Clayton 27-May-20 23:04
Elementary 41 Warwick 28-May-20 16:56
Re: Elementary 41 cladking 28-May-20 20:36
Re: Elementary 46 Warwick 28-May-20 20:51
Walk Like an Egypt(ologist). 58 cladking 29-May-20 13:48
just saw this 36 Warwick 04-Jun-20 20:02
Re: just saw this 31 cladking 04-Jun-20 20:15
Re: Elementary 47 Steve Clayton 28-May-20 21:59
Re: Elementary 46 cladking 29-May-20 13:41
Re: Elementary 44 Steve Clayton 30-May-20 14:14
Re: Elementary 39 cladking 31-May-20 13:37
Re: Elementary 42 Steve Clayton 31-May-20 20:03
Re: Elementary 47 cladking 31-May-20 21:55
Our History is Writ in the Rainbow. 42 cladking 01-Jun-20 14:32
still avoiding the POINT 46 Warwick 01-Jun-20 18:46
Re: still avoiding the POINT 51 cladking 01-Jun-20 21:19
It was the BORG 38 Warwick 02-Jun-20 19:02
Reality Itself was Anthropomorphized 53 cladking 03-Jun-20 01:10
Re: Reality Itself was Anthropomorphized 35 Warwick 03-Jun-20 17:35
Re: Reality Itself was Anthropomorphized 51 cladking 03-Jun-20 19:11
Can We Get Back to Chasing Rainbows? :-) 45 thinkitover 04-Jun-20 08:41
Re: Can We Get Back to Chasing Rainbows? :-) 40 cladking 04-Jun-20 13:38
Re: Can We Get Back to Chasing Rainbows? :-) 35 Warwick 04-Jun-20 17:28
Re: Can We Get Back to Chasing Rainbows? :-) 43 cladking 04-Jun-20 20:37
Re: Can We Get Back to Chasing Rainbows? :-) 35 Warwick 04-Jun-20 21:24
Re: Can We Get Back to Chasing Rainbows? :-) 44 cladking 04-Jun-20 21:48
Re: still avoiding the POINT 38 Steve Clayton 02-Jun-20 16:37
Re: still avoiding the POINT 34 cladking 02-Jun-20 18:45
Re: still avoiding the POINT 34 Warwick 02-Jun-20 18:55
Re: still avoiding the POINT 38 Steve Clayton 02-Jun-20 20:42
Re: still avoiding the POINT 37 Warwick 02-Jun-20 21:11
Re: still avoiding the POINT 39 Steve Clayton 02-Jun-20 23:05
Doing your work for you 39 Warwick 03-Jun-20 17:56
Re: Doing your work for you 37 Steve Clayton 04-Jun-20 02:12
Re: Doing your work for you 34 Warwick 04-Jun-20 18:03
Re: Doing your work for you 36 Steve Clayton 07-Jun-20 22:14
Re: Doing your work for you 45 Warwick 08-Jun-20 19:47
Re: still avoiding the POINT 50 SandyJesse 13-Jun-20 23:15
Re: still avoiding the POINT 53 Steve Clayton 14-Jun-20 23:19
Re: still avoiding the POINT 56 SandyJesse 18-Jun-20 22:49
Help!!!! 51 Warwick 21-May-20 17:33
Good luck Steve 54 Hanslune 18-May-20 21:55
Re: A Study in Ramps 65 cladking 14-May-20 13:57
Key words run through a database isn't research Cladking 52 Hanslune 14-May-20 21:51
Re: A Study in Ramps 75 LonelyAngel 14-May-20 16:31
Re: A Study in Ramps 62 Hanslune 14-May-20 21:56
Re: A Study in Ramps 52 Steve Clayton 18-May-20 21:53
Re: A Study in Ramps 57 Hanslune 18-May-20 22:20
Re: A Study in Ramps 59 Steve Clayton 19-May-20 01:16
Re: A Study in Ramps 59 Hanslune 19-May-20 14:45
Re: A Study in Ramps 60 Steve Clayton 19-May-20 16:07
Please, leave the windmills to Sam 59 Warwick 19-May-20 18:34
Re: Please, leave the windmills to Sam 52 Steve Clayton 19-May-20 20:05
Re: Please, leave the windmills to Sam 52 Warwick 19-May-20 20:55
Re: Please, leave the windmills to Sam 60 Steve Clayton 19-May-20 21:33
Re: Please, leave the windmills to Sam 57 cladking 20-May-20 02:47
Your lack of evidence isn't a problem you can put on others - its yours 57 Hanslune 20-May-20 04:58
Egyptology's Cultural Context 56 cladking 20-May-20 13:53
Ramp theory vs Geyser powered Funicular idea 53 Hanslune 20-May-20 15:43
Re: Ramp theory vs Geyser powered Funicular idea 53 cladking 20-May-20 17:17
Re: Ramp theory vs Geyser powered Funicular idea 53 Hanslune 22-May-20 17:02
Re: Ramp theory vs Geyser powered Funicular idea 55 Warwick 24-May-20 18:13
Re: Ramp theory vs Geyser powered Funicular idea 58 cladking 24-May-20 19:18
In normal conversation... 57 Warwick 24-May-20 19:52
Re: In normal conversation... 75 cladking 25-May-20 01:06
Another final word (waste of time) 76 Warwick 25-May-20 17:52
Re: Another final word (waste of time) 44 Hanslune 26-May-20 14:59
Re: Another final word (waste of time) 61 cladking 26-May-20 15:11
Re: Ramp theory vs Geyser powered Funicular idea 51 Steve Clayton 30-May-20 15:27
Long Live Ramps! 40 cladking 31-May-20 14:05
Re: Egyptology's Cultural Context 44 Warwick 20-May-20 18:05
Re: Egyptology's Cultural Context 57 cladking 20-May-20 20:37
Re: Egyptology's Cultural Context 47 Warwick 20-May-20 21:55
Re: Egyptology's Cultural Context 52 cladking 21-May-20 01:01
Re: Egyptology's Cultural Context 51 Warwick 21-May-20 17:17
Re: Please, leave the windmills to Sam 47 Warwick 20-May-20 18:03
REALITY CHECK 63 Warwick 20-May-20 18:02
Re: REALITY CHECK 46 Steve Clayton 20-May-20 20:28
Re: REALITY CHECK 47 Warwick 20-May-20 22:04
Re: REALITY CHECK 46 Steve Clayton 20-May-20 23:53
Re: REALITY CHECK 45 Warwick 21-May-20 17:12
My boy Luke can eat 50 eggs. n/t 50 cladking 21-May-20 01:08
Re: A Study in Ramps 59 Hanslune 20-May-20 04:53
The trouble is.. 52 Warwick 20-May-20 18:09
Re: The trouble is.. 49 Steve Clayton 20-May-20 20:15
Re: The trouble is.. 49 Warwick 20-May-20 22:16
Re: A Study in Ramps 52 Steve Clayton 20-May-20 19:13
Re: A Study in Ramps 52 Warwick 20-May-20 22:20
Re: A Study in Ramps 50 Steve Clayton 20-May-20 22:46
Re: A Study in Ramps 58 SandyJesse 21-May-20 00:08
Re: A Study in Ramps 52 Steve Clayton 21-May-20 03:19
Re: A Study in Ramps 60 SandyJesse 21-May-20 04:17
Re: A Study in Ramps 52 Steve Clayton 21-May-20 14:19
Re: A Study in Ramps 58 cladking 21-May-20 14:37
Re: A Study in Ramps 54 cladking 21-May-20 14:53
Re: A Study in Ramps 59 Steve Clayton 21-May-20 15:38
there's the windmill 60 Warwick 21-May-20 17:05
Re: there's the windmill 62 cladking 22-May-20 13:24
Re: there's the windmill 49 Warwick 25-May-20 17:39
Re: there's the windmill 39 cladking 30-May-20 14:11
Re: A Study in Ramps 58 Hanslune 22-May-20 17:39
Re: A Study in Ramps 59 SandyJesse 21-May-20 15:47
Re: A Study in Ramps 63 Steve Clayton 21-May-20 16:09
Re: A Study in Ramps 56 Warwick 21-May-20 16:46
Re: A Study in Ramps 56 Warwick 21-May-20 17:44
Re: A Study in Ramps 52 Warwick 21-May-20 16:57
Re: A Study in Ramps 49 Warwick 21-May-20 16:40
Re: A Study in Ramps 55 Warwick 21-May-20 16:39
Re: A Study in Ramps 57 Hanslune 22-May-20 17:32
Re: A Study in Ramps 100 Thanos5150 23-May-20 00:00
Re: A Study in Ramps 60 Warwick 24-May-20 18:02
Re: A Study in Ramps 58 cladking 24-May-20 19:22
I've got an idea 58 Warwick 24-May-20 19:47
Re: I've got an idea 62 cladking 24-May-20 19:59
Re: I've got an idea 53 Warwick 25-May-20 17:30


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