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Steve Clayton Wrote:
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> Not sure what very good ramp systems out there,
> that you are referring to? As in?

Ramp theories aren't really stupid by nature but the "stupidest" theorists tend to invent ramp theories. Many of these theories even neglect having a means for the workers to get down. Most of the ramp "theories" really aren't theories at all but just a matrix for doing calculations. As a rule when ramps theories are challenged they just morph into another shape and take on esheresque qualities. Some of my favorite though involve the ramp being integral to the side and the presumption it was built cladded and then smoothed on the way down. If this were possible it's an exceedingly attractive way to build and not entirely contradictory to the evidence. There are also also a couple of switch-back ramp proposals that look effective and afford more room for men to work. One even employs counterweights to move the stones up the ramps.

I may be biased but most of my favorites employ water. But very few theories can answer the really tough questions like "why don't we know how they were built", "where are stone draggers and quarrymen", "why is there so little evidence", and "how could they build a perfect pyramid with the tools they had".

I am certain the first baby step to get answers to all the questions is to recognize that these are step pyramids because they had no other means to build than to drag stones straight up the sides one step at a time. Eventually your funicular theory will probably gain traction.

> All other proposals suffer from one problem or
> another. As I have shown, in the Spiral proposal
> the last corner is reached after
> traveling 15.27'. All the groups of men on the
> first run, need to travel 689.03' before reaching
> their first 90 degree corner turn. The men at the
> top will stop all the other groups of men, down on
> the first run, 45 times... as they wait for that
> upper turn procedure.  It is more difficult to
> get an object at rest, moving again, than it is to
> keep it moving, ie. Newton.

I'm sure you're right that other proposals all have fatal weaknesses. We can either propose aliens liked step pyramids underneath a smooth shell or that people built these and left the evidence they left BECAUSE of the means to build them.

> Can you image them grinding to a halt, only to be
> required to get their stone moving once again, 45
> times. 45 times!  689.03' (1st run div. by 15.27'
> (last run) = 45.123

No, I can't.

> It's absurd on the face of it. That would never
> even approach delivering a stone every 3
> minutes.  A straight ramp, would require nearly
> as much material,  as in the Pyramid itself, and
> would need to extend out into the Valley to
> acquire a workable grade.

Because of the terrain around G1 a straight ramp of sufficient width to deliver a capstone would have required nearly ten times the volume of the pyramid. The efficiency would have been no higher than ~3%.

> So until some other
> proposal can meet these conditions, by default, we
> are left with a straight up the face method. All
> the others fail.
>
> Ramps are Debunked! Can anyone, deny this any
> longer? 

I don't understand why there is no guidance from Egyptology. Modern thinking is leading them to obsolescence yet they remain in the background waiting for evidence that will never be released. Egyptology is going to become irrelevant to the study of the pyramids and their builders unless they get with the times. The data and theoretical foundation all existed months before I started in 2006 so it's been around 14 years now. Some might say they are stuck in 2005 but if you look closer you'll see they have their roots in the 1880's.

History may just leave Egyptology behind. They might think they can morph into linguistics but what kind of linguist didn't notice their favorite language breaks Zipf's Law?

Man fears the pyramid, time fears man.

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A Study in Ramps 1294 Steve Clayton 01-Mar-20 17:30
Re: A Study in Ramps 169 Manu 01-Mar-20 18:25
Re: A Study in Ramps 157 Steve Clayton 01-Mar-20 20:08
Re: A Study in Ramps 144 Manu 02-Mar-20 02:31
Re: A Study in Ramps 127 Steve Clayton 02-Mar-20 04:54
Re: A Study in Ramps 148 Warwick 01-Mar-20 19:13
Re: A Study in Ramps 129 Steve Clayton 01-Mar-20 20:11
Addendum 129 Steve Clayton 01-Mar-20 22:51
Re: Addendum 133 Manu 02-Mar-20 02:22
Re: Addendum 125 Steve Clayton 02-Mar-20 04:56
Re: Addendum 125 Manu 02-Mar-20 11:15
an observation 133 Warwick 02-Mar-20 18:26
Re: an observation 126 cladking 02-Mar-20 18:38
Re: an observation 113 Warwick 02-Mar-20 18:45
Re: an observation 117 cladking 02-Mar-20 18:52
Point of Order 117 Warwick 02-Mar-20 18:56
Re: Point of Order 103 cladking 02-Mar-20 20:17
Re: Point of Order 115 Warwick 02-Mar-20 23:37
You Meant "Superstitious Idiots" As A Complement? 112 thinkitover 03-Mar-20 05:20
Re: You Meant "Superstitious Idiots" As A Complement? 105 Warwick 03-Mar-20 05:40
Re: You Meant "Superstitious Idiots" As A Complement? 101 cladking 03-Mar-20 14:08
Re: You Meant "Superstitious Idiots" As A Complement? 97 Warwick 03-Mar-20 18:45
Re: You Meant "Superstitious Idiots" As A Complement? 105 cladking 03-Mar-20 20:54
Re: You Meant "Superstitious Idiots" As A Complement? 72 cladking 11-May-20 14:33
Re: an observation 106 Steve Clayton 03-Mar-20 17:05
Re: an observation 99 Warwick 03-Mar-20 18:56
Re: an observation 91 cladking 03-Mar-20 20:57
Re: an observation 94 Warwick 04-Mar-20 17:49
Re: an observation 92 cladking 04-Mar-20 17:58
One Last Try 100 Warwick 04-Mar-20 18:04
20 % of 1.5 Million 100 Warwick 04-Mar-20 18:06
I forgot 97 Warwick 04-Mar-20 18:07
Re: One Last Try 100 cladking 04-Mar-20 18:18
Re: One Last Try 94 Warwick 04-Mar-20 18:33
Re: One Last Try 94 Steve Clayton 04-Mar-20 19:33
Re: One Last Try 95 Warwick 04-Mar-20 19:48
Re: One Last Try 93 cladking 04-Mar-20 20:04
Re: One Last Try 97 Warwick 04-Mar-20 20:21
Re: One Last Try 93 cladking 04-Mar-20 20:57
Re: One Last Try 98 Warwick 04-Mar-20 21:38
Re: It's Spring 91 Steve Clayton 05-Mar-20 13:13
Re: One Last Try 95 Steve Clayton 04-Mar-20 22:45
Re: One Last Try 100 Thanos5150 05-Mar-20 16:36
Re: One Last Try 93 cladking 05-Mar-20 16:56
Re: One Last Try 85 cladking 04-Mar-20 19:57
Re: One Last Try 87 Steve Clayton 05-Mar-20 13:54
Re: One Last Try 94 cladking 05-Mar-20 15:00
Re: an observation 105 Steve Clayton 03-Mar-20 00:36
Re: Addendum 103 SandyJesse 05-Mar-20 23:11
Re: Addendum 86 Steve Clayton 06-Mar-20 16:01
Re: Addendum 87 SandyJesse 07-Mar-20 23:16
Re: A Study in Ramps 126 cladking 01-Mar-20 22:58
Re: A Study in Ramps 115 Steve Clayton 02-Mar-20 03:31
Re: A Study in Ramps 93 cladking 02-Mar-20 18:47
Point of Order 101 Warwick 02-Mar-20 19:00
Re: Point of Order 94 cladking 02-Mar-20 20:05
Re: Point of Order 95 Warwick 02-Mar-20 23:43
Re: Point of Order 92 cladking 03-Mar-20 02:20
Re: Point of Order 92 Warwick 03-Mar-20 04:32
Re: Point of Order 91 cladking 03-Mar-20 14:40
Re: Point of Order 87 Open mind 03-Mar-20 15:14
Re: Point of Order 92 Warwick 03-Mar-20 18:37
Re: Point of Order 89 Open mind 03-Mar-20 19:14
Re: Point of Order - O/T, sort of 92 Warwick 03-Mar-20 19:52
Re: Point of Order 109 Steve Clayton 03-Mar-20 00:09
Re: Point of Order 98 thinkitover 03-Mar-20 05:27
Re: Point of Order 95 cladking 03-Mar-20 14:24
Re: Point of Order 98 Steve Clayton 03-Mar-20 19:44
Re: Point of Order 90 cladking 03-Mar-20 20:59
Re: Point of Order 93 Steve Clayton 03-Mar-20 23:34
Re: Point of Order 103 cladking 04-Mar-20 01:10
Re: Point of Order 126 Thanos5150 04-Mar-20 02:03
Re: Point of Order 92 engbren 04-Mar-20 12:46
Saw Palace Context Sign is pr wr. 116 Manu 04-Mar-20 13:12
Re: Point of Order 100 cladking 04-Mar-20 14:45
Re: Point of Order 107 Manu 04-Mar-20 14:49
Re: Point of Order 100 cladking 04-Mar-20 17:18
Re: Point of Order 95 Manu 04-Mar-20 17:36
Re: Point of Order 96 cladking 04-Mar-20 18:10
Re: Point of Order 94 cladking 07-Mar-20 21:05
Re: Point of Order 86 Steve Clayton 06-Mar-20 19:57
Re: Point of Order 85 cladking 04-Mar-20 17:15
Re: Point of Order 85 Steve Clayton 04-Mar-20 18:29
Re: Point of Order 82 cladking 04-Mar-20 18:44
Re: Point of Order 117 cladking 04-Mar-20 15:44
Re: Point of Order 105 Thanos5150 04-Mar-20 16:23
Re: Point of Order 101 cladking 04-Mar-20 16:43
Re: Point of Order 91 Thanos5150 04-Mar-20 17:38
Re: Point of Order 91 Warwick 04-Mar-20 17:46
Re: Point of Order 96 cladking 04-Mar-20 20:47
Burn all the books!!! 84 Warwick 05-Mar-20 17:46
Re: Rewrite all the books!!! 99 cladking 05-Mar-20 18:02
Re: Rewrite all the books!!! 85 Warwick 05-Mar-20 18:14
...Then We might as well just Chuck the Books. 87 cladking 05-Mar-20 18:53
Re: ...Then We might as well just Chuck the Books. 82 Warwick 05-Mar-20 20:11
Re: ...Then We might as well just Chuck the Books. 93 cladking 05-Mar-20 21:02
Re: ...Then We might as well just Chuck the Books. 89 Warwick 05-Mar-20 21:42
Re: Point of Order 90 Steve Clayton 04-Mar-20 17:58
Re: Point of Order 85 cladking 04-Mar-20 18:48
Re: Point of Order 87 Steve Clayton 06-Mar-20 16:34
Re: Point of Order 86 cladking 06-Mar-20 19:31
Re: Point of Order 86 Steve Clayton 07-Mar-20 00:47
Re: Point of Order 78 cladking 07-Mar-20 01:24
Re: Point of Order 85 Steve Clayton 07-Mar-20 17:40
Re: Point of Order 79 cladking 07-Mar-20 20:52
Re: Point of Order 91 Manu 06-Mar-20 20:31
Re: Point of Order 83 cladking 06-Mar-20 20:47
ST3W 91 Manu 06-Mar-20 21:16
Re: Point of Order 85 cladking 06-Mar-20 21:18
Ra-st3w 102 Manu 06-Mar-20 21:33
Re: Ra-st3w 95 cladking 06-Mar-20 23:08
Re: Ra-st3w 98 cladking 06-Mar-20 23:23
Re: Ra-st3w 89 cladking 09-Mar-20 03:18
Re: Point of Order 85 Steve Clayton 07-Mar-20 01:21
Re: Point of Order 89 Manu 08-Mar-20 17:24
Re: Point of Order 78 Steve Clayton 08-Mar-20 19:07
Re: Point of Order 82 Warwick 08-Mar-20 19:21
Re: Point of Order 86 cladking 08-Mar-20 21:13
Re: Point of Order 80 Steve Clayton 08-Mar-20 22:01
Re: Point of Order 90 cladking 08-Mar-20 23:12
Re: Point of Order 80 Steve Clayton 09-Mar-20 15:38
Re: Point of Order 74 cladking 09-Mar-20 17:49
Re: Point of Order 76 Steve Clayton 09-Mar-20 20:25
Re: Point of Order 89 Warwick 09-Mar-20 20:48
Re: Point of Order 88 Steve Clayton 09-Mar-20 23:12
Re: Point of Order 83 Warwick 10-Mar-20 17:01
Re: Point of Order 84 Steve Clayton 10-Mar-20 20:41
Obvious to all?? 82 Warwick 11-Mar-20 17:10
after all 80 Warwick 11-Mar-20 17:14
Re: Obvious to all?? 72 cladking 11-Mar-20 18:12
Re: Obvious to all?? 97 Warwick 11-Mar-20 18:19
Khafre Causeway-Logistics before Religion? 86 Manu 08-Mar-20 19:28
think conduit 80 Warwick 08-Mar-20 19:57
further reading 77 Warwick 08-Mar-20 20:00
Re: Khafre Causeway-Logistics before Religion? 79 Steve Clayton 08-Mar-20 20:12
Re: Point of Order 83 cladking 08-Mar-20 14:32
Re: Point of Order 91 Manu 08-Mar-20 15:01
Re: Point of Order 83 cladking 08-Mar-20 15:44
Re: Point of Order 88 Manu 08-Mar-20 16:03
Re: Point of Order 79 cladking 08-Mar-20 23:21
Re: Point of Order 92 Thanos5150 08-Mar-20 16:05
Re: Point of Order 79 Warwick 08-Mar-20 19:28
Re: Point of Order 79 cladking 08-Mar-20 21:25
Re: Point of Order 83 Steve Clayton 08-Mar-20 20:49
Re: Point of Order 77 Warwick 08-Mar-20 20:59
Re: Point of Order 87 Steve Clayton 08-Mar-20 22:08
Re: Point of Order 80 cladking 08-Mar-20 23:16
Re: Point of Order 82 Warwick 09-Mar-20 17:39
Re: Point of Order 83 cladking 08-Mar-20 21:05
Re: Point of Order 91 Steve Clayton 03-Mar-20 16:44
Re: Point of Order 80 cladking 03-Mar-20 21:03
Re: Point of Order 77 Steve Clayton 04-Mar-20 17:40
Re: Point of Order 82 cladking 04-Mar-20 19:09
Re: Point of Order 83 Steve Clayton 05-Mar-20 17:03
Re: Point of Order 79 cladking 05-Mar-20 17:52
A stupid question 91 Warwick 05-Mar-20 17:55
Re: A stupid question 82 cladking 05-Mar-20 18:47
Re: A stupid question 92 Steve Clayton 06-Mar-20 17:49
Re: A stupid question 84 Warwick 07-Mar-20 19:14
Re: A stupid question 84 Steve Clayton 07-Mar-20 23:09
Re: A stupid question 78 Warwick 08-Mar-20 18:41
Re: Point of Order 94 Open mind 03-Mar-20 15:26
Re: Point of Order 82 cladking 03-Mar-20 21:07
Re: A Study in Ramps 92 Steve Clayton 03-Mar-20 17:29
Re: A Study in Ramps 88 cladking 03-Mar-20 21:11
Re: A Study in Ramps 80 Steve Clayton 07-Mar-20 18:12
Re: A Study in Ramps 104 Thanos5150 03-Mar-20 16:10
Re: A Study in Ramps 102 Steve Clayton 03-Mar-20 16:57
Re: A Study in Ramps 96 Warwick 03-Mar-20 19:57
Re: A Study in Ramps 101 cladking 03-Mar-20 21:21
Sam Briefly changes Feet 89 Warwick 04-Mar-20 17:27
Re: Sam Briefly changes Feet 84 cladking 04-Mar-20 17:49
Re: Sam Briefly changes Feet 87 Warwick 04-Mar-20 18:12
Rollers and Rope 96 Steve Clayton 04-Mar-20 16:41
Re: Rollers and Rope 81 Open mind 04-Mar-20 16:53
Re: Rollers and Rope 86 Steve Clayton 04-Mar-20 22:22
Re: Rollers and Rope 88 Open mind 05-Mar-20 01:25
Re: Rollers and Rope 81 Steve Clayton 05-Mar-20 15:34
Re: Rollers and Rope 86 Open mind 05-Mar-20 16:08
Re: Rollers and Rope 84 cladking 05-Mar-20 16:32
Re: Rollers and Rope 83 Open mind 05-Mar-20 18:26
Re: Rollers and Rope 84 Open mind 05-Mar-20 18:40
Re: Rollers and Rope 88 cladking 05-Mar-20 21:13
Re: Rollers and Rope 76 Steve Clayton 06-Mar-20 16:14
Re: Rollers and Rope 94 Steve Clayton 06-Mar-20 02:11
Re: Rollers and Rope 104 cladking 06-Mar-20 15:09
Re: Rollers and Rope 89 Open mind 07-Mar-20 01:35
Re: Rollers and Rope 87 cladking 04-Mar-20 17:37
Re: Rollers and Rope 83 Open mind 04-Mar-20 19:18
Re: Rollers and Rope 88 cladking 04-Mar-20 19:30
Re: Rollers and Rope 87 Open mind 04-Mar-20 21:29
Re: Rollers and Rope 92 Warwick 04-Mar-20 21:35
Re: Rollers and Rope 82 Open mind 04-Mar-20 22:24
Re: Rollers and Rope 83 cladking 04-Mar-20 22:31
Re: Rollers and Rope 90 cladking 04-Mar-20 22:35
Re: Rollers and Rope 97 Steve Clayton 08-Mar-20 01:03
Re: Rollers and Rope 84 Warwick 08-Mar-20 18:46
Re: Rollers and Rope 87 Steve Clayton 08-Mar-20 21:34
Re: Rollers and Rope 96 Thanos5150 09-Mar-20 00:59
Re: Rollers and Rope 94 Steve Clayton 09-Mar-20 14:15
Re: Rollers and Rope 84 Warwick 09-Mar-20 17:53
Re: Rollers and Rope 82 Open mind 09-Mar-20 18:10
Re: Rollers and Rope 88 Warwick 09-Mar-20 18:27
Re: Rollers and Rope 90 Steve Clayton 08-Mar-20 01:55
Re: Rollers and Rope 90 cladking 04-Mar-20 22:23
Re: Rollers and Rope 86 Open mind 04-Mar-20 22:30
Re: Rollers and Rope 84 cladking 04-Mar-20 22:50
Re: Rollers and Rope 90 Steve Clayton 04-Mar-20 23:06
Re: Rollers and Rope 85 cladking 05-Mar-20 01:01
Re: Rollers and Rope 85 Open mind 05-Mar-20 01:10
Re: Rollers and Rope 89 Steve Clayton 05-Mar-20 00:10
Re: Rollers and Rope 86 Open mind 05-Mar-20 00:52
Re: Rollers and Rope 86 Steve Clayton 05-Mar-20 16:04
Re: Rollers and Rope 88 Open mind 05-Mar-20 18:13
Re: Rollers and Rope 89 Steve Clayton 05-Mar-20 19:10
Khufu Quarry Ramp, G1-X and T.P.'s 112 Manu 08-Mar-20 22:32
Re: Khufu Quarry Ramp, G1-X and T.P.'s 91 Steve Clayton 08-Mar-20 23:22
Re: A Study in Ramps 105 Steve Clayton 04-Apr-20 22:14
Re: A Study in Ramps 96 cladking 11-May-20 14:42
Re: A Study in Ramps 80 Steve Clayton 13-May-20 03:06
Re: A Study in Ramps 63 Hanslune 13-May-20 19:58
Re: A Study in Ramps 56 cladking 14-May-20 13:48
The reason you always refused to provide drawings of your ideas 56 Hanslune 14-May-20 21:22
Re: The reason you always refused to provide drawings of your ideas 53 cladking 15-May-20 14:34
Re: The reason you always refused to provide drawings of your ideas 58 Hanslune 15-May-20 15:25
Re: The reason you always refused to provide drawings of your ideas 61 cladking 15-May-20 17:46
...and he's off and running 79 Hanslune 16-May-20 17:12
Re: ...and he's off and running 56 Steve Clayton 18-May-20 18:56
Re: ...and he's off and running 55 Warwick 18-May-20 19:47
Re: ...and he's off and running 51 Steve Clayton 18-May-20 20:31
Re: ...and he's off and running 54 Hanslune 18-May-20 22:01
Re: ...and he's off and running 44 Steve Clayton 20-May-20 22:37
Re: ...and he's off and running 44 Warwick 21-May-20 17:28
Re: ...and he's off and running 57 cladking 18-May-20 20:58
Re: ...and he's off and running 50 Hanslune 18-May-20 22:16
Re: ...and he's off and running 44 Steve Clayton 21-May-20 00:06
Re: ...and he's off and running 52 Sirfiroth 21-May-20 16:56
Re: ...and he's off and running 49 Warwick 21-May-20 17:40
Re: ...and he's off and running 81 Sirfiroth 21-May-20 20:44
Re: ...and he's off and running 57 Warwick 22-May-20 02:53
Re: ...and he's off and running 54 Steve Clayton 27-May-20 23:04
Elementary 40 Warwick 28-May-20 16:56
Re: Elementary 40 cladking 28-May-20 20:36
Re: Elementary 44 Warwick 28-May-20 20:51
Walk Like an Egypt(ologist). 57 cladking 29-May-20 13:48
just saw this 35 Warwick 04-Jun-20 20:02
Re: just saw this 30 cladking 04-Jun-20 20:15
Re: Elementary 46 Steve Clayton 28-May-20 21:59
Re: Elementary 45 cladking 29-May-20 13:41
Re: Elementary 43 Steve Clayton 30-May-20 14:14
Re: Elementary 38 cladking 31-May-20 13:37
Re: Elementary 41 Steve Clayton 31-May-20 20:03
Re: Elementary 46 cladking 31-May-20 21:55
Our History is Writ in the Rainbow. 41 cladking 01-Jun-20 14:32
still avoiding the POINT 45 Warwick 01-Jun-20 18:46
Re: still avoiding the POINT 50 cladking 01-Jun-20 21:19
It was the BORG 37 Warwick 02-Jun-20 19:02
Reality Itself was Anthropomorphized 52 cladking 03-Jun-20 01:10
Re: Reality Itself was Anthropomorphized 34 Warwick 03-Jun-20 17:35
Re: Reality Itself was Anthropomorphized 50 cladking 03-Jun-20 19:11
Can We Get Back to Chasing Rainbows? :-) 44 thinkitover 04-Jun-20 08:41
Re: Can We Get Back to Chasing Rainbows? :-) 38 cladking 04-Jun-20 13:38
Re: Can We Get Back to Chasing Rainbows? :-) 34 Warwick 04-Jun-20 17:28
Re: Can We Get Back to Chasing Rainbows? :-) 41 cladking 04-Jun-20 20:37
Re: Can We Get Back to Chasing Rainbows? :-) 34 Warwick 04-Jun-20 21:24
Re: Can We Get Back to Chasing Rainbows? :-) 42 cladking 04-Jun-20 21:48
Re: still avoiding the POINT 37 Steve Clayton 02-Jun-20 16:37
Re: still avoiding the POINT 33 cladking 02-Jun-20 18:45
Re: still avoiding the POINT 32 Warwick 02-Jun-20 18:55
Re: still avoiding the POINT 37 Steve Clayton 02-Jun-20 20:42
Re: still avoiding the POINT 36 Warwick 02-Jun-20 21:11
Re: still avoiding the POINT 37 Steve Clayton 02-Jun-20 23:05
Doing your work for you 38 Warwick 03-Jun-20 17:56
Re: Doing your work for you 35 Steve Clayton 04-Jun-20 02:12
Re: Doing your work for you 33 Warwick 04-Jun-20 18:03
Re: Doing your work for you 34 Steve Clayton 07-Jun-20 22:14
Re: Doing your work for you 44 Warwick 08-Jun-20 19:47
Re: still avoiding the POINT 48 SandyJesse 13-Jun-20 23:15
Re: still avoiding the POINT 52 Steve Clayton 14-Jun-20 23:19
Re: still avoiding the POINT 55 SandyJesse 18-Jun-20 22:49
Help!!!! 50 Warwick 21-May-20 17:33
Good luck Steve 52 Hanslune 18-May-20 21:55
Re: A Study in Ramps 63 cladking 14-May-20 13:57
Key words run through a database isn't research Cladking 51 Hanslune 14-May-20 21:51
Re: A Study in Ramps 73 LonelyAngel 14-May-20 16:31
Re: A Study in Ramps 61 Hanslune 14-May-20 21:56
Re: A Study in Ramps 51 Steve Clayton 18-May-20 21:53
Re: A Study in Ramps 55 Hanslune 18-May-20 22:20
Re: A Study in Ramps 58 Steve Clayton 19-May-20 01:16
Re: A Study in Ramps 57 Hanslune 19-May-20 14:45
Re: A Study in Ramps 58 Steve Clayton 19-May-20 16:07
Please, leave the windmills to Sam 58 Warwick 19-May-20 18:34
Re: Please, leave the windmills to Sam 50 Steve Clayton 19-May-20 20:05
Re: Please, leave the windmills to Sam 51 Warwick 19-May-20 20:55
Re: Please, leave the windmills to Sam 59 Steve Clayton 19-May-20 21:33
Re: Please, leave the windmills to Sam 56 cladking 20-May-20 02:47
Your lack of evidence isn't a problem you can put on others - its yours 56 Hanslune 20-May-20 04:58
Egyptology's Cultural Context 55 cladking 20-May-20 13:53
Ramp theory vs Geyser powered Funicular idea 51 Hanslune 20-May-20 15:43
Re: Ramp theory vs Geyser powered Funicular idea 52 cladking 20-May-20 17:17
Re: Ramp theory vs Geyser powered Funicular idea 52 Hanslune 22-May-20 17:02
Re: Ramp theory vs Geyser powered Funicular idea 54 Warwick 24-May-20 18:13
Re: Ramp theory vs Geyser powered Funicular idea 57 cladking 24-May-20 19:18
In normal conversation... 55 Warwick 24-May-20 19:52
Re: In normal conversation... 74 cladking 25-May-20 01:06
Another final word (waste of time) 74 Warwick 25-May-20 17:52
Re: Another final word (waste of time) 42 Hanslune 26-May-20 14:59
Re: Another final word (waste of time) 59 cladking 26-May-20 15:11
Re: Ramp theory vs Geyser powered Funicular idea 50 Steve Clayton 30-May-20 15:27
Long Live Ramps! 39 cladking 31-May-20 14:05
Re: Egyptology's Cultural Context 42 Warwick 20-May-20 18:05
Re: Egyptology's Cultural Context 56 cladking 20-May-20 20:37
Re: Egyptology's Cultural Context 46 Warwick 20-May-20 21:55
Re: Egyptology's Cultural Context 51 cladking 21-May-20 01:01
Re: Egyptology's Cultural Context 50 Warwick 21-May-20 17:17
Re: Please, leave the windmills to Sam 46 Warwick 20-May-20 18:03
REALITY CHECK 61 Warwick 20-May-20 18:02
Re: REALITY CHECK 45 Steve Clayton 20-May-20 20:28
Re: REALITY CHECK 46 Warwick 20-May-20 22:04
Re: REALITY CHECK 44 Steve Clayton 20-May-20 23:53
Re: REALITY CHECK 44 Warwick 21-May-20 17:12
My boy Luke can eat 50 eggs. n/t 49 cladking 21-May-20 01:08
Re: A Study in Ramps 58 Hanslune 20-May-20 04:53
The trouble is.. 51 Warwick 20-May-20 18:09
Re: The trouble is.. 48 Steve Clayton 20-May-20 20:15
Re: The trouble is.. 48 Warwick 20-May-20 22:16
Re: A Study in Ramps 51 Steve Clayton 20-May-20 19:13
Re: A Study in Ramps 51 Warwick 20-May-20 22:20
Re: A Study in Ramps 49 Steve Clayton 20-May-20 22:46
Re: A Study in Ramps 57 SandyJesse 21-May-20 00:08
Re: A Study in Ramps 51 Steve Clayton 21-May-20 03:19
Re: A Study in Ramps 59 SandyJesse 21-May-20 04:17
Re: A Study in Ramps 51 Steve Clayton 21-May-20 14:19
Re: A Study in Ramps 57 cladking 21-May-20 14:37
Re: A Study in Ramps 53 cladking 21-May-20 14:53
Re: A Study in Ramps 58 Steve Clayton 21-May-20 15:38
there's the windmill 57 Warwick 21-May-20 17:05
Re: there's the windmill 61 cladking 22-May-20 13:24
Re: there's the windmill 47 Warwick 25-May-20 17:39
Re: there's the windmill 38 cladking 30-May-20 14:11
Re: A Study in Ramps 57 Hanslune 22-May-20 17:39
Re: A Study in Ramps 58 SandyJesse 21-May-20 15:47
Re: A Study in Ramps 62 Steve Clayton 21-May-20 16:09
Re: A Study in Ramps 55 Warwick 21-May-20 16:46
Re: A Study in Ramps 55 Warwick 21-May-20 17:44
Re: A Study in Ramps 51 Warwick 21-May-20 16:57
Re: A Study in Ramps 48 Warwick 21-May-20 16:40
Re: A Study in Ramps 53 Warwick 21-May-20 16:39
Re: A Study in Ramps 56 Hanslune 22-May-20 17:32
Re: A Study in Ramps 99 Thanos5150 23-May-20 00:00
Re: A Study in Ramps 58 Warwick 24-May-20 18:02
Re: A Study in Ramps 57 cladking 24-May-20 19:22
I've got an idea 56 Warwick 24-May-20 19:47
Re: I've got an idea 61 cladking 24-May-20 19:59
Re: I've got an idea 51 Warwick 25-May-20 17:30


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