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Warwick Wrote:
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> "Could you have a simple philosophical discussion
> without words for "belief" and "thought"?"
>
> within a Culture with an Elemental belief system,
> there is no question of believing in the Divine in
> everything, it is an obvious fact. There is no
> need to think about what something is, if it just
> is.
>
> Hamlet said it best..
>
> "There are more things in heaven and earth,
> Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy."

You have no evidence of any sort that "an Elemental belief system" existed. What you have is a book that you believe is magic and religion but nobody agrees on the translation or meaning of any of it. Your belief in "an Elemental belief system" is akin to believing you can understand the past by parsing an alchemical text or understand the 1960's by studying a joke book about elephants leaving footprints in your butter. Unless you can show something in the Pyramid Texts or Coffin Texts is actually understood and know how that is related to the culture at large you are just parsing gobbledygook but you can do neither. You can't even translate these "incantations" with the "book of the dead" from 1000 years later. Egyptology created a bill of goods based on assumptions and bad guesses. You bought into it because you want to understand the culture.

It is you with the narrow view of what is possible and what is not. You believe language must work the way you think and that superstition is powerful. You ignore the way computers "think" and the countless millions dead because of baseless beliefs. You ignore the countless lives wasted building a pile of stones for a man you believe was a god on earth. It wouldn't occur to you that no lives were wasted and great pyramids were built on a lark by a people who couldn't understand you and you might never understand them.

Man fears the pyramid, time fears man.

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The Book of Two Ways-Coffin Texts Older Than Believed 757 Thanos5150 04-Jan-20 17:22
Re: The Book of Two Ways-Coffin Texts Older Than Believed 175 cladking 04-Jan-20 19:37
Re: The Book of Two Ways-Coffin Texts Older Than Believed 135 thinkitover 04-Jan-20 23:49
Re: The Book of Two Ways-Coffin Texts Older Than Believed 122 Thanos5150 05-Jan-20 00:46
Re: The Book of Two Ways-Coffin Texts Older Than Believed 138 cladking 05-Jan-20 02:39
Re: The Book of Two Ways-Coffin Texts Older Than Believed 110 Warwick 06-Jan-20 20:55
Re: The Book of Two Ways-Coffin Texts Older Than Believed 107 Warwick 06-Jan-20 21:16
Re: The Book of Two Ways-Coffin Texts Older Than Believed 90 cladking 06-Jan-20 22:45
Re: The Book of Two Ways-Coffin Texts Older Than Believed 95 Warwick 07-Jan-20 18:30
Re: The Book of Two Ways-Coffin Texts Older Than Believed 80 cladking 07-Jan-20 20:10
Re: The Book of Two Ways-Coffin Texts Older Than Believed 100 cladking 06-Jan-20 22:49
Re: The Book of Two Ways-Coffin Texts Older Than Believed 81 Warwick 07-Jan-20 18:24
Re: The Book of Two Ways-Coffin Texts Older Than Believed 94 cladking 07-Jan-20 20:33
Re: The Book of Two Ways-Coffin Texts Older Than Believed 81 Hanslune 08-Jan-20 18:37
Snap! :) 81 Warwick 08-Jan-20 18:47
Re: Snap! :) 79 Hanslune 08-Jan-20 19:02
Re: Snap! :) 81 Warwick 08-Jan-20 19:14
Re: Snap! :) 93 cladking 08-Jan-20 19:56
Re: Snap! :) 71 Hanslune 08-Jan-20 20:23
Re: Snap! :) 72 cladking 08-Jan-20 21:38
Re: Snap! :) 74 Hanslune 08-Jan-20 23:06
Re: The Book of Two Ways-Coffin Texts Older Than Believed 78 cladking 08-Jan-20 19:50
Stop avoiding the questions Cladking 86 Hanslune 08-Jan-20 20:37
Oops made a mistake on the number of words for English 64 Hanslune 08-Jan-20 23:24
Would You Like to Borrow A Comfy Chair and a Soft Cushion? 83 thinkitover 15-Jan-20 06:12
Re: Would You Like to Borrow A Comfy Chair and a Soft Cushion? 70 Hanslune 15-Jan-20 07:00
Re: Would You Like to Borrow A Comfy Chair and a Soft Cushion? 62 cladking 15-Jan-20 14:38
Re: Would You Like to Borrow A Comfy Chair and a Soft Cushion? 68 Hanslune 15-Jan-20 16:25
Re: Would You Like to Borrow A Comfy Chair and a Soft Cushion? 66 cladking 15-Jan-20 17:38
...and Cladking runs off 59 Hanslune 15-Jan-20 17:52
Re: Would You Like to Borrow A Comfy Chair and a Soft Cushion? 72 Corpuscles 16-Jan-20 08:03
Re: Would You Like to Borrow A Comfy Chair and a Soft Cushion? 104 cladking 16-Jan-20 14:27
Get Comfortable. 82 cladking 16-Jan-20 14:50
It's simple all right 70 Warwick 16-Jan-20 20:32
Hieroglyphs have never been translated but I make my own translations from those same fake translations?????? 64 Hanslune 16-Jan-20 21:56
Re: Would You Like to Borrow A Comfy Chair and a Soft Cushion? 57 Hanslune 16-Jan-20 21:54
Re: Would You Like to Borrow A Comfy Chair and a Soft Cushion? 67 Warwick 16-Jan-20 20:27
Re: Would You Like to Borrow A Comfy Chair and a Soft Cushion? 58 Hanslune 16-Jan-20 22:01
Re: Would You Like to Borrow A Comfy Chair and a Soft Cushion? 69 cladking 15-Jan-20 17:56
making up dates 67 Hanslune 15-Jan-20 18:15
Re: making up dates 65 cladking 15-Jan-20 18:52
Re: making up dates 76 Warwick 15-Jan-20 19:05
Re: making up dates 62 cladking 15-Jan-20 19:22
Re: making up dates 62 Hanslune 15-Jan-20 19:25
Re: making up dates 59 Hanslune 15-Jan-20 19:22
How to demonstrate that your ideas are based on stuff you made up - by Cladking 58 Hanslune 15-Jan-20 19:20
So ancient goofy language is all the same? 57 Hanslune 16-Jan-20 22:05
What Purpose Does Myth Serve? 77 thinkitover 09-Jan-20 01:33
Re: What Purpose Does Myth Serve? 76 cladking 09-Jan-20 02:07
Re: What Purpose Does Myth Serve? 82 cladking 09-Jan-20 02:16
Re: What Purpose Does Myth Serve? 67 Warwick 09-Jan-20 19:46
Re: The Book of Two Ways-Coffin Texts Older Than Believed 79 Warwick 08-Jan-20 18:45
Re: The Book of Two Ways-Coffin Texts Older Than Believed 73 Hanslune 08-Jan-20 19:09
Re: The Book of Two Ways-Coffin Texts Older Than Believed 85 cladking 08-Jan-20 20:14
Cladking avoiding the questions that destroys his assumptions 73 Hanslune 08-Jan-20 20:27
so, not just Egyptologists but, 79 Warwick 14-Jan-20 19:23
Re: so, not just Egyptologists but, 72 cladking 14-Jan-20 20:26
Re: so, not just Egyptologists but, 74 Warwick 14-Jan-20 20:32
Re: so, not just Egyptologists but, 82 cladking 14-Jan-20 21:02
Projection 69 Warwick 15-Jan-20 18:17
Re: Projection 57 Hanslune 16-Jan-20 21:51
Re: so, not just Egyptologists but, 66 Hanslune 15-Jan-20 05:52
Re: so, not just Egyptologists but, 73 cladking 15-Jan-20 14:49
Re: so, not just Egyptologists but, 60 Hanslune 15-Jan-20 16:33
Re: so, not just Egyptologists but, 57 cladking 15-Jan-20 17:17
No Gods means belief 59 Hanslune 15-Jan-20 17:59
Re: so, not just Egyptologists but, 71 Warwick 15-Jan-20 18:34
Re: so, not just Egyptologists but, 73 cladking 15-Jan-20 19:36
Re: so, not just Egyptologists but, 68 Warwick 15-Jan-20 19:57
Re: so, not just Egyptologists but, 85 Hanslune 16-Jan-20 22:07
It's a common fault 73 Warwick 18-Jan-20 21:01
Re: It's a common fault 76 Hanslune 19-Jan-20 00:12
Re: It's a common fault 69 cladking 20-Jan-20 03:14
Re: It's a common fault 59 Hanslune 20-Jan-20 03:42
Re: It's a common fault 82 Corpuscles 20-Jan-20 03:59
Re: It's a common fault 62 Sirfiroth 20-Jan-20 17:01
Re: It's a common fault 60 Hanslune 20-Jan-20 17:37
Re: It's a common fault 61 Warwick 20-Jan-20 17:21
Re: It's a common fault 60 Hanslune 20-Jan-20 17:30
Re: so, not just Egyptologists but, 64 Hanslune 15-Jan-20 05:55
Re: The Book of Two Ways-Coffin Texts Older Than Believed 74 cladking 08-Jan-20 22:04
Re: The Book of Two Ways-Coffin Texts Older Than Believed 71 cladking 08-Jan-20 20:10
Re: The Book of Two Ways-Coffin Texts Older Than Believed 64 Hanslune 08-Jan-20 20:25
Re: The Book of Two Ways-Coffin Texts Older Than Believed 74 cladking 08-Jan-20 21:44
Re: The Book of Two Ways-Coffin Texts Older Than Believed 70 Hanslune 08-Jan-20 23:01
Re: The Book of Two Ways-Coffin Texts Older Than Believed 92 cladking 08-Jan-20 23:22
Re: The Book of Two Ways-Coffin Texts Older Than Believed 79 Hanslune 08-Jan-20 23:26
Re: The Book of Two Ways-Coffin Texts Older Than Believed 78 Warwick 09-Jan-20 19:48
Are you kidding us or what? 87 Warwick 09-Jan-20 19:50
Re: Are you kidding us or what? 80 cladking 09-Jan-20 20:26
We know who we are talking too 88 Hanslune 09-Jan-20 20:42
Re: Are you kidding us or what? 73 Hanslune 09-Jan-20 20:36
sorry for the delay 81 Warwick 14-Jan-20 19:16
Re: sorry for the delay 82 cladking 14-Jan-20 21:11
Sorry you are off topic 72 Hanslune 15-Jan-20 06:02
Re: sorry for the delay 68 Warwick 15-Jan-20 18:28
Re: sorry for the delay 60 Hanslune 15-Jan-20 19:24
Re: sorry for the delay 67 Hanslune 15-Jan-20 05:59
Re: The Book of Two Ways-Coffin Texts Older Than Believed 83 Hanslune 08-Jan-20 19:06
Re: The Book of Two Ways-Coffin Texts Older Than Believed 97 cladking 08-Jan-20 20:16
Re: The Book of Two Ways-Coffin Texts Older Than Believed 85 Hanslune 08-Jan-20 20:24
Re: The Book of Two Ways-Coffin Texts Older Than Believed 96 Corpuscles 09-Jan-20 03:29
Re: The Book of Two Ways-Coffin Texts Older Than Believed 114 Thanos5150 09-Jan-20 04:26
Re: The Book of Two Ways-Coffin Texts Older Than Believed 107 seasmith 09-Jan-20 05:43
Re: The Book of Two Ways-Coffin Texts Older Than Believed 110 Warwick 20-Jan-20 19:22


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