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Warwick Wrote:
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> "Could you have a simple philosophical discussion
> without words for "belief" and "thought"?"
>
> within a Culture with an Elemental belief system,
> there is no question of believing in the Divine in
> everything, it is an obvious fact. There is no
> need to think about what something is, if it just
> is.
>
> Hamlet said it best..
>
> "There are more things in heaven and earth,
> Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy."

You have no evidence of any sort that "an Elemental belief system" existed. What you have is a book that you believe is magic and religion but nobody agrees on the translation or meaning of any of it. Your belief in "an Elemental belief system" is akin to believing you can understand the past by parsing an alchemical text or understand the 1960's by studying a joke book about elephants leaving footprints in your butter. Unless you can show something in the Pyramid Texts or Coffin Texts is actually understood and know how that is related to the culture at large you are just parsing gobbledygook but you can do neither. You can't even translate these "incantations" with the "book of the dead" from 1000 years later. Egyptology created a bill of goods based on assumptions and bad guesses. You bought into it because you want to understand the culture.

It is you with the narrow view of what is possible and what is not. You believe language must work the way you think and that superstition is powerful. You ignore the way computers "think" and the countless millions dead because of baseless beliefs. You ignore the countless lives wasted building a pile of stones for a man you believe was a god on earth. It wouldn't occur to you that no lives were wasted and great pyramids were built on a lark by a people who couldn't understand you and you might never understand them.

Man fears the pyramid, time fears man.

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The Book of Two Ways-Coffin Texts Older Than Believed 675 Thanos5150 04-Jan-20 17:22
Re: The Book of Two Ways-Coffin Texts Older Than Believed 143 cladking 04-Jan-20 19:37
Re: The Book of Two Ways-Coffin Texts Older Than Believed 105 thinkitover 04-Jan-20 23:49
Re: The Book of Two Ways-Coffin Texts Older Than Believed 97 Thanos5150 05-Jan-20 00:46
Re: The Book of Two Ways-Coffin Texts Older Than Believed 113 cladking 05-Jan-20 02:39
Re: The Book of Two Ways-Coffin Texts Older Than Believed 79 Warwick 06-Jan-20 20:55
Re: The Book of Two Ways-Coffin Texts Older Than Believed 76 Warwick 06-Jan-20 21:16
Re: The Book of Two Ways-Coffin Texts Older Than Believed 65 cladking 06-Jan-20 22:45
Re: The Book of Two Ways-Coffin Texts Older Than Believed 63 Warwick 07-Jan-20 18:30
Re: The Book of Two Ways-Coffin Texts Older Than Believed 58 cladking 07-Jan-20 20:10
Re: The Book of Two Ways-Coffin Texts Older Than Believed 78 cladking 06-Jan-20 22:49
Re: The Book of Two Ways-Coffin Texts Older Than Believed 57 Warwick 07-Jan-20 18:24
Re: The Book of Two Ways-Coffin Texts Older Than Believed 68 cladking 07-Jan-20 20:33
Re: The Book of Two Ways-Coffin Texts Older Than Believed 61 Hanslune 08-Jan-20 18:37
Snap! :) 60 Warwick 08-Jan-20 18:47
Re: Snap! :) 58 Hanslune 08-Jan-20 19:02
Re: Snap! :) 53 Warwick 08-Jan-20 19:14
Re: Snap! :) 63 cladking 08-Jan-20 19:56
Re: Snap! :) 49 Hanslune 08-Jan-20 20:23
Re: Snap! :) 50 cladking 08-Jan-20 21:38
Re: Snap! :) 52 Hanslune 08-Jan-20 23:06
Re: The Book of Two Ways-Coffin Texts Older Than Believed 50 cladking 08-Jan-20 19:50
Stop avoiding the questions Cladking 63 Hanslune 08-Jan-20 20:37
Oops made a mistake on the number of words for English 42 Hanslune 08-Jan-20 23:24
Would You Like to Borrow A Comfy Chair and a Soft Cushion? 52 thinkitover 15-Jan-20 06:12
Re: Would You Like to Borrow A Comfy Chair and a Soft Cushion? 48 Hanslune 15-Jan-20 07:00
Re: Would You Like to Borrow A Comfy Chair and a Soft Cushion? 42 cladking 15-Jan-20 14:38
Re: Would You Like to Borrow A Comfy Chair and a Soft Cushion? 46 Hanslune 15-Jan-20 16:25
Re: Would You Like to Borrow A Comfy Chair and a Soft Cushion? 47 cladking 15-Jan-20 17:38
...and Cladking runs off 39 Hanslune 15-Jan-20 17:52
Re: Would You Like to Borrow A Comfy Chair and a Soft Cushion? 52 Corpuscles 16-Jan-20 08:03
Re: Would You Like to Borrow A Comfy Chair and a Soft Cushion? 77 cladking 16-Jan-20 14:27
Get Comfortable. 60 cladking 16-Jan-20 14:50
It's simple all right 47 Warwick 16-Jan-20 20:32
Hieroglyphs have never been translated but I make my own translations from those same fake translations?????? 43 Hanslune 16-Jan-20 21:56
Re: Would You Like to Borrow A Comfy Chair and a Soft Cushion? 36 Hanslune 16-Jan-20 21:54
Re: Would You Like to Borrow A Comfy Chair and a Soft Cushion? 40 Warwick 16-Jan-20 20:27
Re: Would You Like to Borrow A Comfy Chair and a Soft Cushion? 38 Hanslune 16-Jan-20 22:01
Re: Would You Like to Borrow A Comfy Chair and a Soft Cushion? 47 cladking 15-Jan-20 17:56
making up dates 45 Hanslune 15-Jan-20 18:15
Re: making up dates 42 cladking 15-Jan-20 18:52
Re: making up dates 47 Warwick 15-Jan-20 19:05
Re: making up dates 42 cladking 15-Jan-20 19:22
Re: making up dates 42 Hanslune 15-Jan-20 19:25
Re: making up dates 39 Hanslune 15-Jan-20 19:22
How to demonstrate that your ideas are based on stuff you made up - by Cladking 37 Hanslune 15-Jan-20 19:20
So ancient goofy language is all the same? 35 Hanslune 16-Jan-20 22:05
What Purpose Does Myth Serve? 48 thinkitover 09-Jan-20 01:33
Re: What Purpose Does Myth Serve? 49 cladking 09-Jan-20 02:07
Re: What Purpose Does Myth Serve? 51 cladking 09-Jan-20 02:16
Re: What Purpose Does Myth Serve? 41 Warwick 09-Jan-20 19:46
Re: The Book of Two Ways-Coffin Texts Older Than Believed 55 Warwick 08-Jan-20 18:45
Re: The Book of Two Ways-Coffin Texts Older Than Believed 52 Hanslune 08-Jan-20 19:09
Re: The Book of Two Ways-Coffin Texts Older Than Believed 53 cladking 08-Jan-20 20:14
Cladking avoiding the questions that destroys his assumptions 53 Hanslune 08-Jan-20 20:27
so, not just Egyptologists but, 54 Warwick 14-Jan-20 19:23
Re: so, not just Egyptologists but, 44 cladking 14-Jan-20 20:26
Re: so, not just Egyptologists but, 45 Warwick 14-Jan-20 20:32
Re: so, not just Egyptologists but, 55 cladking 14-Jan-20 21:02
Projection 42 Warwick 15-Jan-20 18:17
Re: Projection 36 Hanslune 16-Jan-20 21:51
Re: so, not just Egyptologists but, 44 Hanslune 15-Jan-20 05:52
Re: so, not just Egyptologists but, 43 cladking 15-Jan-20 14:49
Re: so, not just Egyptologists but, 40 Hanslune 15-Jan-20 16:33
Re: so, not just Egyptologists but, 37 cladking 15-Jan-20 17:17
No Gods means belief 38 Hanslune 15-Jan-20 17:59
Re: so, not just Egyptologists but, 40 Warwick 15-Jan-20 18:34
Re: so, not just Egyptologists but, 51 cladking 15-Jan-20 19:36
Re: so, not just Egyptologists but, 47 Warwick 15-Jan-20 19:57
Re: so, not just Egyptologists but, 60 Hanslune 16-Jan-20 22:07
It's a common fault 46 Warwick 18-Jan-20 21:01
Re: It's a common fault 54 Hanslune 19-Jan-20 00:12
Re: It's a common fault 50 cladking 20-Jan-20 03:14
Re: It's a common fault 40 Hanslune 20-Jan-20 03:42
Re: It's a common fault 59 Corpuscles 20-Jan-20 03:59
Re: It's a common fault 41 Sirfiroth 20-Jan-20 17:01
Re: It's a common fault 40 Hanslune 20-Jan-20 17:37
Re: It's a common fault 32 Warwick 20-Jan-20 17:21
Re: It's a common fault 38 Hanslune 20-Jan-20 17:30
Re: so, not just Egyptologists but, 43 Hanslune 15-Jan-20 05:55
Re: The Book of Two Ways-Coffin Texts Older Than Believed 47 cladking 08-Jan-20 22:04
Re: The Book of Two Ways-Coffin Texts Older Than Believed 45 cladking 08-Jan-20 20:10
Re: The Book of Two Ways-Coffin Texts Older Than Believed 43 Hanslune 08-Jan-20 20:25
Re: The Book of Two Ways-Coffin Texts Older Than Believed 51 cladking 08-Jan-20 21:44
Re: The Book of Two Ways-Coffin Texts Older Than Believed 49 Hanslune 08-Jan-20 23:01
Re: The Book of Two Ways-Coffin Texts Older Than Believed 66 cladking 08-Jan-20 23:22
Re: The Book of Two Ways-Coffin Texts Older Than Believed 55 Hanslune 08-Jan-20 23:26
Re: The Book of Two Ways-Coffin Texts Older Than Believed 50 Warwick 09-Jan-20 19:48
Are you kidding us or what? 59 Warwick 09-Jan-20 19:50
Re: Are you kidding us or what? 55 cladking 09-Jan-20 20:26
We know who we are talking too 64 Hanslune 09-Jan-20 20:42
Re: Are you kidding us or what? 51 Hanslune 09-Jan-20 20:36
sorry for the delay 53 Warwick 14-Jan-20 19:16
Re: sorry for the delay 61 cladking 14-Jan-20 21:11
Sorry you are off topic 49 Hanslune 15-Jan-20 06:02
Re: sorry for the delay 42 Warwick 15-Jan-20 18:28
Re: sorry for the delay 39 Hanslune 15-Jan-20 19:24
Re: sorry for the delay 44 Hanslune 15-Jan-20 05:59
Re: The Book of Two Ways-Coffin Texts Older Than Believed 60 Hanslune 08-Jan-20 19:06
Re: The Book of Two Ways-Coffin Texts Older Than Believed 73 cladking 08-Jan-20 20:16
Re: The Book of Two Ways-Coffin Texts Older Than Believed 64 Hanslune 08-Jan-20 20:24
Re: The Book of Two Ways-Coffin Texts Older Than Believed 75 Corpuscles 09-Jan-20 03:29
Re: The Book of Two Ways-Coffin Texts Older Than Believed 90 Thanos5150 09-Jan-20 04:26
Re: The Book of Two Ways-Coffin Texts Older Than Believed 86 seasmith 09-Jan-20 05:43
Re: The Book of Two Ways-Coffin Texts Older Than Believed 72 Warwick 20-Jan-20 19:22


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