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thinkitover Wrote:
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> I get your point about people being able to do
> great science even while having religious beliefs,
> but that may be cladking getting a bit too close
> to sort of an orthodox conceit that being
> scientific is supposed to spare us from being
> superstitious as if the two are supposed to be
> somehow mutually exclusive.

You missed my point.

As most people practice science it is a superstition. They hold experiment as models and then extrapolate the results inappropriately because they understand neither metaphysics nor experiment. They believe that the reality is knowable and it is already known. For most people 'Science" is just a new belief system that has replaced religion or Other belief systems taught on their parents' knees. Even among "real" scientists (like physicists) many do not understand metaphysics or the meaning of results. 3% of physicists believe a plane can't take off from a conveyor belt but that's far better than aviation engineers.

Science is merely a tool and has meaning only within its definitions and axioms but many people believe it is some kind of magic that is wielded by smart people to disclose the magical laws that operate nature.

Virtually all modern people are highly superstitious. Even scientists who understand metaphysics are still riddled with beliefs in most instances. We all see only what we believe. I call us Homo Omnisciencis for the reason that we all think we're so smart and to highlight every characteristic that separates us from other species and the Homo Sapiens who built the great pyramids. We are the stinky footed bumpkins we see everywhere.

There are people here who claim to be expert with infrared imaging and took me to task and insulted me relentlessly when I said that such testing would solve how the pyramids were built. I understand simple things like the radiation of heat so I knew that underlying structures would appear but they insisted rudely and endlessly that I was stupid and wrong because they were experts and knew that only the outside of the pyramid could be seen.

This is how it is. Everybody knows everything and don't even know when they are proven wrong. Few people understand any science at all but almost everyone thinks they do. We don't have to say things that are related to reality but Ancient Language had a grammar that tied words to reality itself. We live our beliefs but EVERY other species lives what they know.

> We seem to think they're so superstitious that
> they can't understand where illness really comes
> from so they make up magical songs and chants to
> ward away evil spirits, even while the song itself
> may be trying to tell us where they think the
> particular ailment really comes from.

The pyramid builders apparently understood the nature of disease. They knew that sneezes should be directed downward to the floor to prevent spread but we are told to sneeze into a tissue to diffuse the spray far and wide.

Man fears the pyramid, time fears man.

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The Book of Two Ways-Coffin Texts Older Than Believed 760 Thanos5150 04-Jan-20 17:22
Re: The Book of Two Ways-Coffin Texts Older Than Believed 178 cladking 04-Jan-20 19:37
Re: The Book of Two Ways-Coffin Texts Older Than Believed 139 thinkitover 04-Jan-20 23:49
Re: The Book of Two Ways-Coffin Texts Older Than Believed 126 Thanos5150 05-Jan-20 00:46
Re: The Book of Two Ways-Coffin Texts Older Than Believed 140 cladking 05-Jan-20 02:39
Re: The Book of Two Ways-Coffin Texts Older Than Believed 112 Warwick 06-Jan-20 20:55
Re: The Book of Two Ways-Coffin Texts Older Than Believed 109 Warwick 06-Jan-20 21:16
Re: The Book of Two Ways-Coffin Texts Older Than Believed 92 cladking 06-Jan-20 22:45
Re: The Book of Two Ways-Coffin Texts Older Than Believed 97 Warwick 07-Jan-20 18:30
Re: The Book of Two Ways-Coffin Texts Older Than Believed 82 cladking 07-Jan-20 20:10
Re: The Book of Two Ways-Coffin Texts Older Than Believed 102 cladking 06-Jan-20 22:49
Re: The Book of Two Ways-Coffin Texts Older Than Believed 83 Warwick 07-Jan-20 18:24
Re: The Book of Two Ways-Coffin Texts Older Than Believed 96 cladking 07-Jan-20 20:33
Re: The Book of Two Ways-Coffin Texts Older Than Believed 83 Hanslune 08-Jan-20 18:37
Snap! :) 83 Warwick 08-Jan-20 18:47
Re: Snap! :) 81 Hanslune 08-Jan-20 19:02
Re: Snap! :) 83 Warwick 08-Jan-20 19:14
Re: Snap! :) 95 cladking 08-Jan-20 19:56
Re: Snap! :) 74 Hanslune 08-Jan-20 20:23
Re: Snap! :) 74 cladking 08-Jan-20 21:38
Re: Snap! :) 76 Hanslune 08-Jan-20 23:06
Re: The Book of Two Ways-Coffin Texts Older Than Believed 80 cladking 08-Jan-20 19:50
Stop avoiding the questions Cladking 88 Hanslune 08-Jan-20 20:37
Oops made a mistake on the number of words for English 66 Hanslune 08-Jan-20 23:24
Would You Like to Borrow A Comfy Chair and a Soft Cushion? 84 thinkitover 15-Jan-20 06:12
Re: Would You Like to Borrow A Comfy Chair and a Soft Cushion? 72 Hanslune 15-Jan-20 07:00
Re: Would You Like to Borrow A Comfy Chair and a Soft Cushion? 64 cladking 15-Jan-20 14:38
Re: Would You Like to Borrow A Comfy Chair and a Soft Cushion? 70 Hanslune 15-Jan-20 16:25
Re: Would You Like to Borrow A Comfy Chair and a Soft Cushion? 69 cladking 15-Jan-20 17:38
...and Cladking runs off 61 Hanslune 15-Jan-20 17:52
Re: Would You Like to Borrow A Comfy Chair and a Soft Cushion? 74 Corpuscles 16-Jan-20 08:03
Re: Would You Like to Borrow A Comfy Chair and a Soft Cushion? 106 cladking 16-Jan-20 14:27
Get Comfortable. 85 cladking 16-Jan-20 14:50
It's simple all right 72 Warwick 16-Jan-20 20:32
Hieroglyphs have never been translated but I make my own translations from those same fake translations?????? 66 Hanslune 16-Jan-20 21:56
Re: Would You Like to Borrow A Comfy Chair and a Soft Cushion? 59 Hanslune 16-Jan-20 21:54
Re: Would You Like to Borrow A Comfy Chair and a Soft Cushion? 70 Warwick 16-Jan-20 20:27
Re: Would You Like to Borrow A Comfy Chair and a Soft Cushion? 60 Hanslune 16-Jan-20 22:01
Re: Would You Like to Borrow A Comfy Chair and a Soft Cushion? 72 cladking 15-Jan-20 17:56
making up dates 69 Hanslune 15-Jan-20 18:15
Re: making up dates 67 cladking 15-Jan-20 18:52
Re: making up dates 78 Warwick 15-Jan-20 19:05
Re: making up dates 64 cladking 15-Jan-20 19:22
Re: making up dates 64 Hanslune 15-Jan-20 19:25
Re: making up dates 61 Hanslune 15-Jan-20 19:22
How to demonstrate that your ideas are based on stuff you made up - by Cladking 60 Hanslune 15-Jan-20 19:20
So ancient goofy language is all the same? 59 Hanslune 16-Jan-20 22:05
What Purpose Does Myth Serve? 80 thinkitover 09-Jan-20 01:33
Re: What Purpose Does Myth Serve? 78 cladking 09-Jan-20 02:07
Re: What Purpose Does Myth Serve? 84 cladking 09-Jan-20 02:16
Re: What Purpose Does Myth Serve? 70 Warwick 09-Jan-20 19:46
Re: The Book of Two Ways-Coffin Texts Older Than Believed 81 Warwick 08-Jan-20 18:45
Re: The Book of Two Ways-Coffin Texts Older Than Believed 75 Hanslune 08-Jan-20 19:09
Re: The Book of Two Ways-Coffin Texts Older Than Believed 87 cladking 08-Jan-20 20:14
Cladking avoiding the questions that destroys his assumptions 76 Hanslune 08-Jan-20 20:27
so, not just Egyptologists but, 82 Warwick 14-Jan-20 19:23
Re: so, not just Egyptologists but, 74 cladking 14-Jan-20 20:26
Re: so, not just Egyptologists but, 76 Warwick 14-Jan-20 20:32
Re: so, not just Egyptologists but, 84 cladking 14-Jan-20 21:02
Projection 71 Warwick 15-Jan-20 18:17
Re: Projection 60 Hanslune 16-Jan-20 21:51
Re: so, not just Egyptologists but, 67 Hanslune 15-Jan-20 05:52
Re: so, not just Egyptologists but, 76 cladking 15-Jan-20 14:49
Re: so, not just Egyptologists but, 62 Hanslune 15-Jan-20 16:33
Re: so, not just Egyptologists but, 59 cladking 15-Jan-20 17:17
No Gods means belief 61 Hanslune 15-Jan-20 17:59
Re: so, not just Egyptologists but, 73 Warwick 15-Jan-20 18:34
Re: so, not just Egyptologists but, 76 cladking 15-Jan-20 19:36
Re: so, not just Egyptologists but, 70 Warwick 15-Jan-20 19:57
Re: so, not just Egyptologists but, 86 Hanslune 16-Jan-20 22:07
It's a common fault 75 Warwick 18-Jan-20 21:01
Re: It's a common fault 78 Hanslune 19-Jan-20 00:12
Re: It's a common fault 71 cladking 20-Jan-20 03:14
Re: It's a common fault 61 Hanslune 20-Jan-20 03:42
Re: It's a common fault 84 Corpuscles 20-Jan-20 03:59
Re: It's a common fault 64 Sirfiroth 20-Jan-20 17:01
Re: It's a common fault 62 Hanslune 20-Jan-20 17:37
Re: It's a common fault 63 Warwick 20-Jan-20 17:21
Re: It's a common fault 63 Hanslune 20-Jan-20 17:30
Re: so, not just Egyptologists but, 66 Hanslune 15-Jan-20 05:55
Re: The Book of Two Ways-Coffin Texts Older Than Believed 76 cladking 08-Jan-20 22:04
Re: The Book of Two Ways-Coffin Texts Older Than Believed 73 cladking 08-Jan-20 20:10
Re: The Book of Two Ways-Coffin Texts Older Than Believed 67 Hanslune 08-Jan-20 20:25
Re: The Book of Two Ways-Coffin Texts Older Than Believed 76 cladking 08-Jan-20 21:44
Re: The Book of Two Ways-Coffin Texts Older Than Believed 72 Hanslune 08-Jan-20 23:01
Re: The Book of Two Ways-Coffin Texts Older Than Believed 93 cladking 08-Jan-20 23:22
Re: The Book of Two Ways-Coffin Texts Older Than Believed 82 Hanslune 08-Jan-20 23:26
Re: The Book of Two Ways-Coffin Texts Older Than Believed 80 Warwick 09-Jan-20 19:48
Are you kidding us or what? 90 Warwick 09-Jan-20 19:50
Re: Are you kidding us or what? 82 cladking 09-Jan-20 20:26
We know who we are talking too 91 Hanslune 09-Jan-20 20:42
Re: Are you kidding us or what? 75 Hanslune 09-Jan-20 20:36
sorry for the delay 83 Warwick 14-Jan-20 19:16
Re: sorry for the delay 84 cladking 14-Jan-20 21:11
Sorry you are off topic 74 Hanslune 15-Jan-20 06:02
Re: sorry for the delay 70 Warwick 15-Jan-20 18:28
Re: sorry for the delay 63 Hanslune 15-Jan-20 19:24
Re: sorry for the delay 70 Hanslune 15-Jan-20 05:59
Re: The Book of Two Ways-Coffin Texts Older Than Believed 85 Hanslune 08-Jan-20 19:06
Re: The Book of Two Ways-Coffin Texts Older Than Believed 99 cladking 08-Jan-20 20:16
Re: The Book of Two Ways-Coffin Texts Older Than Believed 87 Hanslune 08-Jan-20 20:24
Re: The Book of Two Ways-Coffin Texts Older Than Believed 98 Corpuscles 09-Jan-20 03:29
Re: The Book of Two Ways-Coffin Texts Older Than Believed 116 Thanos5150 09-Jan-20 04:26
Re: The Book of Two Ways-Coffin Texts Older Than Believed 110 seasmith 09-Jan-20 05:43
Re: The Book of Two Ways-Coffin Texts Older Than Believed 113 Warwick 20-Jan-20 19:22


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