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thinkitover Wrote:
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> I get your point about people being able to do
> great science even while having religious beliefs,
> but that may be cladking getting a bit too close
> to sort of an orthodox conceit that being
> scientific is supposed to spare us from being
> superstitious as if the two are supposed to be
> somehow mutually exclusive.

You missed my point.

As most people practice science it is a superstition. They hold experiment as models and then extrapolate the results inappropriately because they understand neither metaphysics nor experiment. They believe that the reality is knowable and it is already known. For most people 'Science" is just a new belief system that has replaced religion or Other belief systems taught on their parents' knees. Even among "real" scientists (like physicists) many do not understand metaphysics or the meaning of results. 3% of physicists believe a plane can't take off from a conveyor belt but that's far better than aviation engineers.

Science is merely a tool and has meaning only within its definitions and axioms but many people believe it is some kind of magic that is wielded by smart people to disclose the magical laws that operate nature.

Virtually all modern people are highly superstitious. Even scientists who understand metaphysics are still riddled with beliefs in most instances. We all see only what we believe. I call us Homo Omnisciencis for the reason that we all think we're so smart and to highlight every characteristic that separates us from other species and the Homo Sapiens who built the great pyramids. We are the stinky footed bumpkins we see everywhere.

There are people here who claim to be expert with infrared imaging and took me to task and insulted me relentlessly when I said that such testing would solve how the pyramids were built. I understand simple things like the radiation of heat so I knew that underlying structures would appear but they insisted rudely and endlessly that I was stupid and wrong because they were experts and knew that only the outside of the pyramid could be seen.

This is how it is. Everybody knows everything and don't even know when they are proven wrong. Few people understand any science at all but almost everyone thinks they do. We don't have to say things that are related to reality but Ancient Language had a grammar that tied words to reality itself. We live our beliefs but EVERY other species lives what they know.

> We seem to think they're so superstitious that
> they can't understand where illness really comes
> from so they make up magical songs and chants to
> ward away evil spirits, even while the song itself
> may be trying to tell us where they think the
> particular ailment really comes from.

The pyramid builders apparently understood the nature of disease. They knew that sneezes should be directed downward to the floor to prevent spread but we are told to sneeze into a tissue to diffuse the spray far and wide.

Man fears the pyramid, time fears man.

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The Book of Two Ways-Coffin Texts Older Than Believed 671 Thanos5150 04-Jan-20 17:22
Re: The Book of Two Ways-Coffin Texts Older Than Believed 143 cladking 04-Jan-20 19:37
Re: The Book of Two Ways-Coffin Texts Older Than Believed 105 thinkitover 04-Jan-20 23:49
Re: The Book of Two Ways-Coffin Texts Older Than Believed 97 Thanos5150 05-Jan-20 00:46
Re: The Book of Two Ways-Coffin Texts Older Than Believed 113 cladking 05-Jan-20 02:39
Re: The Book of Two Ways-Coffin Texts Older Than Believed 79 Warwick 06-Jan-20 20:55
Re: The Book of Two Ways-Coffin Texts Older Than Believed 76 Warwick 06-Jan-20 21:16
Re: The Book of Two Ways-Coffin Texts Older Than Believed 65 cladking 06-Jan-20 22:45
Re: The Book of Two Ways-Coffin Texts Older Than Believed 62 Warwick 07-Jan-20 18:30
Re: The Book of Two Ways-Coffin Texts Older Than Believed 57 cladking 07-Jan-20 20:10
Re: The Book of Two Ways-Coffin Texts Older Than Believed 78 cladking 06-Jan-20 22:49
Re: The Book of Two Ways-Coffin Texts Older Than Believed 56 Warwick 07-Jan-20 18:24
Re: The Book of Two Ways-Coffin Texts Older Than Believed 67 cladking 07-Jan-20 20:33
Re: The Book of Two Ways-Coffin Texts Older Than Believed 60 Hanslune 08-Jan-20 18:37
Snap! :) 60 Warwick 08-Jan-20 18:47
Re: Snap! :) 57 Hanslune 08-Jan-20 19:02
Re: Snap! :) 52 Warwick 08-Jan-20 19:14
Re: Snap! :) 63 cladking 08-Jan-20 19:56
Re: Snap! :) 49 Hanslune 08-Jan-20 20:23
Re: Snap! :) 50 cladking 08-Jan-20 21:38
Re: Snap! :) 52 Hanslune 08-Jan-20 23:06
Re: The Book of Two Ways-Coffin Texts Older Than Believed 50 cladking 08-Jan-20 19:50
Stop avoiding the questions Cladking 63 Hanslune 08-Jan-20 20:37
Oops made a mistake on the number of words for English 42 Hanslune 08-Jan-20 23:24
Would You Like to Borrow A Comfy Chair and a Soft Cushion? 51 thinkitover 15-Jan-20 06:12
Re: Would You Like to Borrow A Comfy Chair and a Soft Cushion? 47 Hanslune 15-Jan-20 07:00
Re: Would You Like to Borrow A Comfy Chair and a Soft Cushion? 40 cladking 15-Jan-20 14:38
Re: Would You Like to Borrow A Comfy Chair and a Soft Cushion? 45 Hanslune 15-Jan-20 16:25
Re: Would You Like to Borrow A Comfy Chair and a Soft Cushion? 46 cladking 15-Jan-20 17:38
...and Cladking runs off 37 Hanslune 15-Jan-20 17:52
Re: Would You Like to Borrow A Comfy Chair and a Soft Cushion? 51 Corpuscles 16-Jan-20 08:03
Re: Would You Like to Borrow A Comfy Chair and a Soft Cushion? 76 cladking 16-Jan-20 14:27
Get Comfortable. 58 cladking 16-Jan-20 14:50
It's simple all right 46 Warwick 16-Jan-20 20:32
Hieroglyphs have never been translated but I make my own translations from those same fake translations?????? 41 Hanslune 16-Jan-20 21:56
Re: Would You Like to Borrow A Comfy Chair and a Soft Cushion? 35 Hanslune 16-Jan-20 21:54
Re: Would You Like to Borrow A Comfy Chair and a Soft Cushion? 39 Warwick 16-Jan-20 20:27
Re: Would You Like to Borrow A Comfy Chair and a Soft Cushion? 36 Hanslune 16-Jan-20 22:01
Re: Would You Like to Borrow A Comfy Chair and a Soft Cushion? 46 cladking 15-Jan-20 17:56
making up dates 44 Hanslune 15-Jan-20 18:15
Re: making up dates 41 cladking 15-Jan-20 18:52
Re: making up dates 45 Warwick 15-Jan-20 19:05
Re: making up dates 40 cladking 15-Jan-20 19:22
Re: making up dates 41 Hanslune 15-Jan-20 19:25
Re: making up dates 38 Hanslune 15-Jan-20 19:22
How to demonstrate that your ideas are based on stuff you made up - by Cladking 36 Hanslune 15-Jan-20 19:20
So ancient goofy language is all the same? 34 Hanslune 16-Jan-20 22:05
What Purpose Does Myth Serve? 48 thinkitover 09-Jan-20 01:33
Re: What Purpose Does Myth Serve? 48 cladking 09-Jan-20 02:07
Re: What Purpose Does Myth Serve? 50 cladking 09-Jan-20 02:16
Re: What Purpose Does Myth Serve? 41 Warwick 09-Jan-20 19:46
Re: The Book of Two Ways-Coffin Texts Older Than Believed 55 Warwick 08-Jan-20 18:45
Re: The Book of Two Ways-Coffin Texts Older Than Believed 52 Hanslune 08-Jan-20 19:09
Re: The Book of Two Ways-Coffin Texts Older Than Believed 52 cladking 08-Jan-20 20:14
Cladking avoiding the questions that destroys his assumptions 52 Hanslune 08-Jan-20 20:27
so, not just Egyptologists but, 54 Warwick 14-Jan-20 19:23
Re: so, not just Egyptologists but, 43 cladking 14-Jan-20 20:26
Re: so, not just Egyptologists but, 43 Warwick 14-Jan-20 20:32
Re: so, not just Egyptologists but, 53 cladking 14-Jan-20 21:02
Projection 41 Warwick 15-Jan-20 18:17
Re: Projection 35 Hanslune 16-Jan-20 21:51
Re: so, not just Egyptologists but, 43 Hanslune 15-Jan-20 05:52
Re: so, not just Egyptologists but, 42 cladking 15-Jan-20 14:49
Re: so, not just Egyptologists but, 39 Hanslune 15-Jan-20 16:33
Re: so, not just Egyptologists but, 35 cladking 15-Jan-20 17:17
No Gods means belief 36 Hanslune 15-Jan-20 17:59
Re: so, not just Egyptologists but, 39 Warwick 15-Jan-20 18:34
Re: so, not just Egyptologists but, 50 cladking 15-Jan-20 19:36
Re: so, not just Egyptologists but, 45 Warwick 15-Jan-20 19:57
Re: so, not just Egyptologists but, 58 Hanslune 16-Jan-20 22:07
It's a common fault 46 Warwick 18-Jan-20 21:01
Re: It's a common fault 53 Hanslune 19-Jan-20 00:12
Re: It's a common fault 49 cladking 20-Jan-20 03:14
Re: It's a common fault 39 Hanslune 20-Jan-20 03:42
Re: It's a common fault 58 Corpuscles 20-Jan-20 03:59
Re: It's a common fault 40 Sirfiroth 20-Jan-20 17:01
Re: It's a common fault 39 Hanslune 20-Jan-20 17:37
Re: It's a common fault 32 Warwick 20-Jan-20 17:21
Re: It's a common fault 38 Hanslune 20-Jan-20 17:30
Re: so, not just Egyptologists but, 42 Hanslune 15-Jan-20 05:55
Re: The Book of Two Ways-Coffin Texts Older Than Believed 47 cladking 08-Jan-20 22:04
Re: The Book of Two Ways-Coffin Texts Older Than Believed 44 cladking 08-Jan-20 20:10
Re: The Book of Two Ways-Coffin Texts Older Than Believed 43 Hanslune 08-Jan-20 20:25
Re: The Book of Two Ways-Coffin Texts Older Than Believed 51 cladking 08-Jan-20 21:44
Re: The Book of Two Ways-Coffin Texts Older Than Believed 49 Hanslune 08-Jan-20 23:01
Re: The Book of Two Ways-Coffin Texts Older Than Believed 66 cladking 08-Jan-20 23:22
Re: The Book of Two Ways-Coffin Texts Older Than Believed 54 Hanslune 08-Jan-20 23:26
Re: The Book of Two Ways-Coffin Texts Older Than Believed 50 Warwick 09-Jan-20 19:48
Are you kidding us or what? 59 Warwick 09-Jan-20 19:50
Re: Are you kidding us or what? 55 cladking 09-Jan-20 20:26
We know who we are talking too 64 Hanslune 09-Jan-20 20:42
Re: Are you kidding us or what? 50 Hanslune 09-Jan-20 20:36
sorry for the delay 52 Warwick 14-Jan-20 19:16
Re: sorry for the delay 59 cladking 14-Jan-20 21:11
Sorry you are off topic 48 Hanslune 15-Jan-20 06:02
Re: sorry for the delay 40 Warwick 15-Jan-20 18:28
Re: sorry for the delay 38 Hanslune 15-Jan-20 19:24
Re: sorry for the delay 43 Hanslune 15-Jan-20 05:59
Re: The Book of Two Ways-Coffin Texts Older Than Believed 60 Hanslune 08-Jan-20 19:06
Re: The Book of Two Ways-Coffin Texts Older Than Believed 73 cladking 08-Jan-20 20:16
Re: The Book of Two Ways-Coffin Texts Older Than Believed 64 Hanslune 08-Jan-20 20:24
Re: The Book of Two Ways-Coffin Texts Older Than Believed 75 Corpuscles 09-Jan-20 03:29
Re: The Book of Two Ways-Coffin Texts Older Than Believed 90 Thanos5150 09-Jan-20 04:26
Re: The Book of Two Ways-Coffin Texts Older Than Believed 86 seasmith 09-Jan-20 05:43
Re: The Book of Two Ways-Coffin Texts Older Than Believed 69 Warwick 20-Jan-20 19:22


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