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Thanos5150 Wrote:
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> The Book of Two Ways, considered as part of the
> larger cannon of Coffin Texts, is dated to the
> Middle Kingdom and is a precursor to the later
> Book of the Dead. It is an illustrated road map
> and plan for the deceased to navigate the
> underworld so that they might successfully reach
> Rostau-the realm of Osiris. The oldest example of
> the Book yet found was discovered in 2012 with the
> results recently published, likely dating to the
> reign of Mentuhotep II c.2061-2010 BC-the first
> pharaoh of the Middle Kingdom and responsible for
> the reunification of Egypt.
>
> [url=https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177
> /0307513319856848?journalCode=egaa]A Fragment of
> an Early Book of Two Ways on the Coffin of Ankh
> from Dayr al-Barshā (B4B)[/url]
>
> Another MK example of the Book of Two Ways:
> [img]https://static01.nyt.com/images/2019/12/31/sc
> ience/00SCI-AFTERLIFE1/00SCI-AFTERLIFE1-articleLar
> ge.jpg?quality=90&auto=webp[/img]
> [url=https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-0KVzkHQgHhY/XguNLm
> tUC9I/AAAAAAACwMc/g9leX5PUHIYnJ1PHLLt1v9VrP3PHQsIa
> gCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/afterlife-3.jpg]LARGE[/url]
>
> Dating to c.1900BC, it is from the physician's
> coffin of the nomarch Djehutihotep-owner of the
> famed tomb relief:
> [img]https://i.pinimg.com/736x/a1/25/27/a12527091d
> 017d6a9bae1a972f769489--wall-paintings-ancient-egy
> pt.jpg[/img]
>
> As an aside, Mentuhotep II was an interesting
> character which of note is his mortuary temple-a
> clear and unusual departure in many ways to what
> came before. Abandoning the burial sites of his
> predecessors, he built his mortuary temple on the
> west bank of Thebes (Deir el Bahri) which became
> the inspiration and location of NK royal burial
> sites centuries later. The mortuary temple is
> right next to the famed Temple of Hatshepsut:

> (Note the large [b]ramp[/b] leading to the temple)

The Coffin Texts have long been known to date to as early as 2200 BC. Indeed a few of the so called spells in the CT are identical to some of the "incantation" in the Pyramid Texts so nothing here is in any way new though the fragments are interesting. The PT are believed to date back even before the invention of writing in 3200 BC so would have been well known to the great pyramid builders especially if you are correct in your assumptions that the Great Pyramid is a tomb and was built by highly superstitious people.

You are obviously correct that the "book of the dead" is strictly religion and magic written by a moribund culture because there is amp0le writing to support such a notion. But there is nothing except "incantation" and "magic" to support the idea that the pyramid builders were identical or shared similar beliefs. Until such time as any of this writing is understood it follows that we don't really know what any of it means and can only say the writing resembles the writing of later people. There is no agreement among Egyptologists about the meaning or origin of a single "incantation" or any other writing of any sort of the era of great pyramid building. Even the Sumerian writing is very much open to interpretation.

You are simply presenting a perspective as reality despite the lack of any scientific underpinning.

Man fears the pyramid, time fears man.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04-Jan-20 19:39 by cladking.

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The Book of Two Ways-Coffin Texts Older Than Believed 741 Thanos5150 04-Jan-20 17:22
Re: The Book of Two Ways-Coffin Texts Older Than Believed 168 cladking 04-Jan-20 19:37
Re: The Book of Two Ways-Coffin Texts Older Than Believed 128 thinkitover 04-Jan-20 23:49
Re: The Book of Two Ways-Coffin Texts Older Than Believed 113 Thanos5150 05-Jan-20 00:46
Re: The Book of Two Ways-Coffin Texts Older Than Believed 129 cladking 05-Jan-20 02:39
Re: The Book of Two Ways-Coffin Texts Older Than Believed 103 Warwick 06-Jan-20 20:55
Re: The Book of Two Ways-Coffin Texts Older Than Believed 100 Warwick 06-Jan-20 21:16
Re: The Book of Two Ways-Coffin Texts Older Than Believed 81 cladking 06-Jan-20 22:45
Re: The Book of Two Ways-Coffin Texts Older Than Believed 88 Warwick 07-Jan-20 18:30
Re: The Book of Two Ways-Coffin Texts Older Than Believed 74 cladking 07-Jan-20 20:10
Re: The Book of Two Ways-Coffin Texts Older Than Believed 94 cladking 06-Jan-20 22:49
Re: The Book of Two Ways-Coffin Texts Older Than Believed 75 Warwick 07-Jan-20 18:24
Re: The Book of Two Ways-Coffin Texts Older Than Believed 82 cladking 07-Jan-20 20:33
Re: The Book of Two Ways-Coffin Texts Older Than Believed 73 Hanslune 08-Jan-20 18:37
Snap! :) 74 Warwick 08-Jan-20 18:47
Re: Snap! :) 73 Hanslune 08-Jan-20 19:02
Re: Snap! :) 72 Warwick 08-Jan-20 19:14
Re: Snap! :) 83 cladking 08-Jan-20 19:56
Re: Snap! :) 65 Hanslune 08-Jan-20 20:23
Re: Snap! :) 65 cladking 08-Jan-20 21:38
Re: Snap! :) 66 Hanslune 08-Jan-20 23:06
Re: The Book of Two Ways-Coffin Texts Older Than Believed 70 cladking 08-Jan-20 19:50
Stop avoiding the questions Cladking 77 Hanslune 08-Jan-20 20:37
Oops made a mistake on the number of words for English 55 Hanslune 08-Jan-20 23:24
Would You Like to Borrow A Comfy Chair and a Soft Cushion? 75 thinkitover 15-Jan-20 06:12
Re: Would You Like to Borrow A Comfy Chair and a Soft Cushion? 63 Hanslune 15-Jan-20 07:00
Re: Would You Like to Borrow A Comfy Chair and a Soft Cushion? 54 cladking 15-Jan-20 14:38
Re: Would You Like to Borrow A Comfy Chair and a Soft Cushion? 61 Hanslune 15-Jan-20 16:25
Re: Would You Like to Borrow A Comfy Chair and a Soft Cushion? 60 cladking 15-Jan-20 17:38
...and Cladking runs off 51 Hanslune 15-Jan-20 17:52
Re: Would You Like to Borrow A Comfy Chair and a Soft Cushion? 65 Corpuscles 16-Jan-20 08:03
Re: Would You Like to Borrow A Comfy Chair and a Soft Cushion? 96 cladking 16-Jan-20 14:27
Get Comfortable. 74 cladking 16-Jan-20 14:50
It's simple all right 63 Warwick 16-Jan-20 20:32
Hieroglyphs have never been translated but I make my own translations from those same fake translations?????? 56 Hanslune 16-Jan-20 21:56
Re: Would You Like to Borrow A Comfy Chair and a Soft Cushion? 50 Hanslune 16-Jan-20 21:54
Re: Would You Like to Borrow A Comfy Chair and a Soft Cushion? 60 Warwick 16-Jan-20 20:27
Re: Would You Like to Borrow A Comfy Chair and a Soft Cushion? 52 Hanslune 16-Jan-20 22:01
Re: Would You Like to Borrow A Comfy Chair and a Soft Cushion? 61 cladking 15-Jan-20 17:56
making up dates 60 Hanslune 15-Jan-20 18:15
Re: making up dates 57 cladking 15-Jan-20 18:52
Re: making up dates 68 Warwick 15-Jan-20 19:05
Re: making up dates 54 cladking 15-Jan-20 19:22
Re: making up dates 56 Hanslune 15-Jan-20 19:25
Re: making up dates 52 Hanslune 15-Jan-20 19:22
How to demonstrate that your ideas are based on stuff you made up - by Cladking 49 Hanslune 15-Jan-20 19:20
So ancient goofy language is all the same? 48 Hanslune 16-Jan-20 22:05
What Purpose Does Myth Serve? 70 thinkitover 09-Jan-20 01:33
Re: What Purpose Does Myth Serve? 69 cladking 09-Jan-20 02:07
Re: What Purpose Does Myth Serve? 74 cladking 09-Jan-20 02:16
Re: What Purpose Does Myth Serve? 59 Warwick 09-Jan-20 19:46
Re: The Book of Two Ways-Coffin Texts Older Than Believed 73 Warwick 08-Jan-20 18:45
Re: The Book of Two Ways-Coffin Texts Older Than Believed 65 Hanslune 08-Jan-20 19:09
Re: The Book of Two Ways-Coffin Texts Older Than Believed 77 cladking 08-Jan-20 20:14
Cladking avoiding the questions that destroys his assumptions 67 Hanslune 08-Jan-20 20:27
so, not just Egyptologists but, 70 Warwick 14-Jan-20 19:23
Re: so, not just Egyptologists but, 65 cladking 14-Jan-20 20:26
Re: so, not just Egyptologists but, 67 Warwick 14-Jan-20 20:32
Re: so, not just Egyptologists but, 74 cladking 14-Jan-20 21:02
Projection 60 Warwick 15-Jan-20 18:17
Re: Projection 49 Hanslune 16-Jan-20 21:51
Re: so, not just Egyptologists but, 59 Hanslune 15-Jan-20 05:52
Re: so, not just Egyptologists but, 65 cladking 15-Jan-20 14:49
Re: so, not just Egyptologists but, 52 Hanslune 15-Jan-20 16:33
Re: so, not just Egyptologists but, 49 cladking 15-Jan-20 17:17
No Gods means belief 50 Hanslune 15-Jan-20 17:59
Re: so, not just Egyptologists but, 62 Warwick 15-Jan-20 18:34
Re: so, not just Egyptologists but, 66 cladking 15-Jan-20 19:36
Re: so, not just Egyptologists but, 62 Warwick 15-Jan-20 19:57
Re: so, not just Egyptologists but, 76 Hanslune 16-Jan-20 22:07
It's a common fault 65 Warwick 18-Jan-20 21:01
Re: It's a common fault 68 Hanslune 19-Jan-20 00:12
Re: It's a common fault 62 cladking 20-Jan-20 03:14
Re: It's a common fault 52 Hanslune 20-Jan-20 03:42
Re: It's a common fault 74 Corpuscles 20-Jan-20 03:59
Re: It's a common fault 54 Sirfiroth 20-Jan-20 17:01
Re: It's a common fault 52 Hanslune 20-Jan-20 17:37
Re: It's a common fault 52 Warwick 20-Jan-20 17:21
Re: It's a common fault 53 Hanslune 20-Jan-20 17:30
Re: so, not just Egyptologists but, 57 Hanslune 15-Jan-20 05:55
Re: The Book of Two Ways-Coffin Texts Older Than Believed 67 cladking 08-Jan-20 22:04
Re: The Book of Two Ways-Coffin Texts Older Than Believed 62 cladking 08-Jan-20 20:10
Re: The Book of Two Ways-Coffin Texts Older Than Believed 56 Hanslune 08-Jan-20 20:25
Re: The Book of Two Ways-Coffin Texts Older Than Believed 68 cladking 08-Jan-20 21:44
Re: The Book of Two Ways-Coffin Texts Older Than Believed 62 Hanslune 08-Jan-20 23:01
Re: The Book of Two Ways-Coffin Texts Older Than Believed 86 cladking 08-Jan-20 23:22
Re: The Book of Two Ways-Coffin Texts Older Than Believed 69 Hanslune 08-Jan-20 23:26
Re: The Book of Two Ways-Coffin Texts Older Than Believed 70 Warwick 09-Jan-20 19:48
Are you kidding us or what? 80 Warwick 09-Jan-20 19:50
Re: Are you kidding us or what? 73 cladking 09-Jan-20 20:26
We know who we are talking too 82 Hanslune 09-Jan-20 20:42
Re: Are you kidding us or what? 66 Hanslune 09-Jan-20 20:36
sorry for the delay 75 Warwick 14-Jan-20 19:16
Re: sorry for the delay 75 cladking 14-Jan-20 21:11
Sorry you are off topic 63 Hanslune 15-Jan-20 06:02
Re: sorry for the delay 60 Warwick 15-Jan-20 18:28
Re: sorry for the delay 51 Hanslune 15-Jan-20 19:24
Re: sorry for the delay 58 Hanslune 15-Jan-20 05:59
Re: The Book of Two Ways-Coffin Texts Older Than Believed 75 Hanslune 08-Jan-20 19:06
Re: The Book of Two Ways-Coffin Texts Older Than Believed 87 cladking 08-Jan-20 20:16
Re: The Book of Two Ways-Coffin Texts Older Than Believed 77 Hanslune 08-Jan-20 20:24
Re: The Book of Two Ways-Coffin Texts Older Than Believed 88 Corpuscles 09-Jan-20 03:29
Re: The Book of Two Ways-Coffin Texts Older Than Believed 104 Thanos5150 09-Jan-20 04:26
Re: The Book of Two Ways-Coffin Texts Older Than Believed 99 seasmith 09-Jan-20 05:43
Re: The Book of Two Ways-Coffin Texts Older Than Believed 102 Warwick 20-Jan-20 19:22


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