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Thanos5150 Wrote:
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> Corpuscles Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Hi Lee
> >
> > Yet another 'sacred' huacas complete with a
> cave.
> > Limestone.
> >
> > No shitting Godzilla required.
> >
> > Mine tailing dumps:
>
> You say no shitting required then show me a big
> 'ol dump. Make up your mind bro.

Sorry mate but Godzilla is a FICTION. Likewise so is it's shit.

>
> > You see if all the stonework was carved with
> > copper /bronze chisels???
> > Then there would have to be enormous number of
> > mines with huge associated tailing dumps all
> over
> > the place. Not to mention the gold and silver
> > mines.
>
> Where are these mine tailing dumps for the
> Babylonians, Phoneticians, Greeks, Romans, etc,
> etc?

Used up. But I am sure if I could be bothered I could find some pics for your outstanding collection.
Sorry , I am not going to bother.
>
> > As noted before the Inca legends indicate they
> > "were told" by the Huacas where to find gold
> and
> > silver.
>
> The overwhelming majority (all?) of the gold was
> panned. I do not think they Inca (or whoever) did
> little more than basic mining with nearly all of
> it being done after the Spanish arrived.

Most likely most gold was panned. But why did they say the huacas told them were the gold was?

NO! Even the Mayans had heaps of gold. The Spanish took/stole it, not mined it!
>
> > The limestone extracted likely damp originally
> > (needs oxygen/air to harden with a crust)
> >
> > Not necessarily "mortar" but the raw material
> to
> > cut out blocks before it all hardens.
> >
> > Yes some of the in situ carvings you have
> > presented might have been carved out of natural
> > andesite or granite outcrops.
>
> Where is the "might"?

Agreed . Definitely some are Andesite.
>
> > What with bronze
> > chisels?
>
> How did the Greeks and Romans do it? Or how about
> the Hittites:

They were at least in the iron age. Some wriggle room there?
I think ancient tech was a closely guarded secret.

>
>
> Geoplymer?

Geopolymer is a difficult term. Strictly not applicable in such case.

BUT EXACTLY.... how did they do it?
Some can be explained by pounders. Other things cannot.


>
> > Or acid or such that could disassociate
> > the hard rock?
>
> The evidence is curious suggesting that some sort
> of stone softening may have been used, I am
> certainly open minded to rational alternative
> possibilities, but it makes little sense to use
> this process was used to create a geopolymer
> instead of just using it to help cut the
> block-also what is clearly seen by the evidence.

The original OP dealing with geopolymer (artificial fabricated stone) was specific to two sites which has undergone detailed extensive scientific analysis.

I ought make it clear I am not suggesting everything is non natural stone. Most is natural stone (or combination). However rock softening and reconstitution tech, existed and known widely (across the world) in antiquity.

Anyway. You have not researched the technology. You and others are forgiven.

I simply used the vid title as thread title, not meant everything ancient is encapsulated in that term. There is serious debate in that area of science atm that the alkaline branch (one of many types) ought be called something different due to different chemical structure.

The Pantheon. There is NO WAY that would be standing if modern Portland cement was used. It was a brew of volcanic ash mixed with pumice which has lasted 2000 yrs (under immense strain). Some modern high tech concrete has failed in modern Australia (concrete cancer) in circa 50 years.

They observed nature . They had the recipes.





How did "they" do it "pounders and bronze chisels?
You have to be joking! LOL!


Cheers



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07-Jan-20 07:13 by Corpuscles.

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Tiwanaku / Pumapunku Megaliths are Artificial Geopolymers 1749 Corpuscles 21-Dec-19 17:24
Re: Tiwanaku / Pumapunku Megaliths are Artificial Geopolymers 298 Open mind 22-Dec-19 02:28
Re: Tiwanaku / Pumapunku Megaliths are Artificial Geopolymers 265 Hanslune 22-Dec-19 05:58
Re: Tiwanaku / Pumapunku Megaliths are Artificial Geopolymers 236 Corpuscles 22-Dec-19 21:06
Re: Tiwanaku / Pumapunku Megaliths are Artificial Geopolymers 183 thinkitover 23-Dec-19 10:05
Re: Tiwanaku / Pumapunku Megaliths are Artificial Geopolymers 300 ocka 22-Dec-19 09:32
Re: Tiwanaku / Pumapunku Megaliths are Artificial Geopolymers 227 Hanslune 22-Dec-19 18:01
Re: Tiwanaku / Pumapunku Megaliths are Artificial Geopolymers 223 Thanos5150 23-Dec-19 16:53
Re: Tiahuanaco architect named 186 molder 23-Dec-19 22:16
Re: Tiwanaku / Pumapunku Megaliths are Artificial Geopolymers 189 Hanslune 23-Dec-19 23:44
Re: Tiwanaku / Pumapunku Megaliths are Artificial Geopolymers 182 Thanos5150 24-Dec-19 16:47
Re: Tiwanaku / Pumapunku Megaliths are Artificial Geopolymers 175 Hanslune 25-Dec-19 01:32
Re: Tiwanaku / Pumapunku Megaliths are Artificial Geopolymers 224 Thanos5150 25-Dec-19 02:43
Re: Tiwanaku / Pumapunku Megaliths are Artificial Geopolymers 181 Hanslune 27-Dec-19 23:09
Re: Tiwanaku / Pumapunku Megaliths are Artificial Geopolymers 186 Thanos5150 28-Dec-19 17:22
Re: Tiwanaku / Pumapunku Megaliths are Artificial Geopolymers 185 Corpuscles 29-Dec-19 06:33
Re: Tiwanaku / Pumapunku Megaliths are Artificial Geopolymers 167 Merrell 29-Dec-19 14:38
Re: Tiwanaku / Pumapunku Megaliths are Artificial Geopolymers 168 Corpuscles 29-Dec-19 20:31
Re: Tiwanaku / Pumapunku Megaliths are Artificial Geopolymers 181 Merrell 29-Dec-19 23:54
Re: Tiwanaku / Pumapunku Megaliths are Artificial Geopolymers 156 Corpuscles 01-Jan-20 00:03
Re: Tiwanaku / Pumapunku Megaliths are Artificial Geopolymers 157 Merrell 01-Jan-20 10:45
Re: Tiwanaku / Pumapunku Megaliths are Artificial Geopolymers 154 Corpuscles 01-Jan-20 18:32
Re: Tiwanaku / Pumapunku Megaliths are Artificial Geopolymers 165 Open mind 31-Dec-19 19:33
Re: Tiwanaku / Pumapunku Megaliths are Artificial Geopolymers 144 Merrell 31-Dec-19 23:06
Re: Tiwanaku / Pumapunku Megaliths are Artificial Geopolymers 181 Corpuscles 01-Jan-20 00:29
Re: Tiwanaku / Pumapunku Megaliths are Artificial Geopolymers 148 Open mind 01-Jan-20 03:02
Re: Tiwanaku / Pumapunku Megaliths are Artificial Geopolymers 243 Thanos5150 01-Jan-20 04:08
Re: Tiwanaku / Pumapunku Megaliths are Artificial Geopolymers 162 Corpuscles 01-Jan-20 05:51
Re: Tiwanaku / Pumapunku Megaliths are Artificial Geopolymers 182 Thanos5150 01-Jan-20 06:59
Re: Tiwanaku / Pumapunku Megaliths are Artificial Geopolymers 183 Corpuscles 01-Jan-20 19:40
Basalt Pavers 161 Barbelo 01-Jan-20 21:33
Re: Basalt Pavers 167 Corpuscles 01-Jan-20 23:01
Re: Basalt Pavers 157 Barbelo 02-Jan-20 03:36
Re: Basalt Pavers 170 Corpuscles 02-Jan-20 05:42
Re: Basalt Pavers 157 Barbelo 02-Jan-20 06:41
Re: Tiwanaku / Pumapunku Megaliths are Artificial Geopolymers 171 Thanos5150 02-Jan-20 02:17
Re: Tiwanaku / Pumapunku Megaliths are Artificial Geopolymers 189 Corpuscles 02-Jan-20 05:03
Basalt Pillar 176 Barbelo 02-Jan-20 07:15
Re: Basalt Pillar 160 Open mind 02-Jan-20 15:43
Re: Basalt Pillar 258 Corpuscles 02-Jan-20 19:06
Re: Basalt Pillar 167 Barbelo 02-Jan-20 21:13
Re: Tiwanaku / Pumapunku Megaliths are Artificial Geopolymers 193 Thanos5150 02-Jan-20 18:08
Re: Tiwanaku / Pumapunku Megaliths are Artificial Geopolymers 191 Merrell 02-Jan-20 18:58
Re: Tiwanaku / Pumapunku Megaliths are Artificial Geopolymers 216 Martin Stower 03-Jan-20 11:15
Re: Tiwanaku / Pumapunku Megaliths are Artificial Geopolymers 171 Corpuscles 03-Jan-20 20:29
Re: Tiwanaku / Pumapunku Megaliths are Artificial Geopolymers 166 Merrell 03-Jan-20 21:45
Re: Tiwanaku / Pumapunku Megaliths are Artificial Geopolymers 160 Corpuscles 03-Jan-20 23:23
Sacsayhuaman 171 Barbelo 04-Jan-20 02:22
Re: Sacsayhuaman 170 Corpuscles 04-Jan-20 03:23
Re: Sacsayhuaman 166 Thanos5150 04-Jan-20 03:28
Re: Sacsayhuaman 167 Corpuscles 04-Jan-20 05:58
Re: Sacsayhuaman 211 Barbelo 04-Jan-20 11:16
Re: Sacsayhuaman 158 Thanos5150 05-Jan-20 15:58
Re: Sacsayhuaman 161 Barbelo 05-Jan-20 20:22
Re: Sacsayhuaman 149 Thanos5150 05-Jan-20 23:55
Re: Sacsayhuaman 152 Corpuscles 05-Jan-20 21:41
Re: Sacsayhuaman 155 Barbelo 05-Jan-20 23:40
Re: Sacsayhuaman 157 Thanos5150 05-Jan-20 23:59
Re: Sacsayhuaman 153 Open mind 06-Jan-20 01:08
Re: Sacsayhuaman 147 Corpuscles 06-Jan-20 02:29
Re: Sacsayhuaman 156 Barbelo 06-Jan-20 03:50
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Re: Sacsayhuaman 158 Thanos5150 06-Jan-20 05:10
Re: Sacsayhuaman 165 Corpuscles 06-Jan-20 05:47
Re: Sacsayhuaman 189 Thanos5150 06-Jan-20 16:53
Re: Sacsayhuaman 158 Corpuscles 06-Jan-20 19:06
The Limestone Puddle 147 Barbelo 06-Jan-20 21:27
Re: Sacsayhuaman 146 Thanos5150 06-Jan-20 21:44
Re: Sacsayhuaman 147 Corpuscles 06-Jan-20 22:28
Re: Sacsayhuaman 169 Thanos5150 07-Jan-20 17:01
Re: Sacsayhuaman 147 Corpuscles 07-Jan-20 21:48
Re: Sacsayhuaman 151 Open mind 06-Jan-20 21:07
Re: Sacsayhuaman 147 Corpuscles 06-Jan-20 21:30
Re: Sacsayhuaman 144 Open mind 07-Jan-20 20:43
Re: Sacsayhuaman 143 Open mind 06-Jan-20 13:44
Re: Sacsayhuaman 157 Barbelo 06-Jan-20 11:07
Re: Sacsayhuaman 145 Corpuscles 06-Jan-20 05:16
Re: Sacsayhuaman 148 Barbelo 06-Jan-20 10:36
Re: Sacsayhuaman 147 seasmith 06-Jan-20 14:28
Re: Sacsayhuaman 144 Barbelo 06-Jan-20 20:46
Re: Sacsayhuaman 139 Open mind 06-Jan-20 16:41
Re: Sacsayhuaman 141 Barbelo 06-Jan-20 21:12
Re: Sacsayhuaman 151 Open mind 07-Jan-20 15:05
Re: Sacsayhuaman 165 Corpuscles 07-Jan-20 21:25
Nonsensical or Unnecessary? 149 Barbelo 07-Jan-20 23:51
Re: Nonsensical or Unnecessary? 163 Corpuscles 08-Jan-20 01:23
Re: Sacsayhuaman 145 Open mind 08-Jan-20 00:36
Re: Sacsayhuaman 148 Corpuscles 08-Jan-20 00:58
Re: Sacsayhuaman 153 Barbelo 08-Jan-20 01:12
Re: Sacsayhuaman 138 Open mind 08-Jan-20 02:06
Re: Sacsayhuaman 147 Barbelo 08-Jan-20 03:20
Re: Sacsayhuaman 165 Corpuscles 08-Jan-20 07:05
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Re: Sacsayhuaman 145 Open mind 08-Jan-20 16:42
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LImestone vs Limestone 136 Barbelo 08-Jan-20 22:40
Re: LImestone vs Limestone 158 Corpuscles 08-Jan-20 23:47
Re: LImestone vs Limestone 146 Barbelo 09-Jan-20 01:57
Re: LImestone vs Limestone 156 Corpuscles 09-Jan-20 03:09
Re: Limestone vs Limestone 143 Barbelo 09-Jan-20 04:07
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Re: Limestone vs Limestone 127 Barbelo 09-Jan-20 20:49
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Re: Limestone vs Limestone 149 Barbelo 09-Jan-20 21:20
Re: Limestone vs Limestone 128 Open mind 10-Jan-20 15:12
Re: Limestone vs Limestone 135 Corpuscles 09-Jan-20 17:15
Re: LImestone vs Limestone 139 Open mind 09-Jan-20 15:25
Re:Sacsayhuaman 141 Corpuscles 10-Jan-20 07:00
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Re: Re:Sacsayhuaman 126 Open mind 10-Jan-20 15:47
Re: Re:Sacsayhuaman 135 Open mind 10-Jan-20 15:58
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Re: Re:Sacsayhuaman 120 Corpuscles 10-Jan-20 21:00
Re: LImestone vs Limestone 154 Thanos5150 09-Jan-20 01:44
Tombomachay 150 Corpuscles 10-Jan-20 06:25
Re: Limestone vs Limestone 136 Barbelo 10-Jan-20 07:30
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Re: Limestone vs Limestone 160 Barbelo 11-Jan-20 05:25
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Now All You Have To Do Is Prove It 149 Barbelo 12-Jan-20 12:11
Re: Now All You Have To Do Is Prove It 153 Corpuscles 12-Jan-20 20:56
Re: Now All You Have To Do Is Prove It 167 Open mind 13-Jan-20 16:19
Re: Sacsayhuaman 135 Open mind 08-Jan-20 23:22
Re: Sacsayhuaman 145 Open mind 08-Jan-20 14:23
Re: Sacsayhuaman 139 Merrell 08-Jan-20 17:57
On the fence... 140 Racho 08-Jan-20 04:51
Re: On the fence... 142 Open mind 08-Jan-20 15:24
Re: Tiwanaku / Pumapunku Megaliths are Artificial Geopolymers 167 Merrell 04-Jan-20 09:04
Re: Tiwanaku / Pumapunku Megaliths are Artificial Geopolymers 154 Corpuscles 05-Jan-20 09:22
Re: Tiwanaku / Pumapunku Megaliths are Artificial Geopolymers 160 Martin Stower 03-Jan-20 23:28
Re: Tiwanaku / Pumapunku Megaliths are Artificial Geopolymers 151 Corpuscles 04-Jan-20 00:34
Re: Tiwanaku / Pumapunku Megaliths are Artificial Geopolymers 135 Open mind 05-Jan-20 16:19
Re: Tiwanaku / Pumapunku Megaliths are Artificial Geopolymers 153 Open mind 02-Jan-20 03:37
Re: Tiwanaku / Pumapunku Megaliths are Artificial Geopolymers 156 Merrell 01-Jan-20 14:10
Re: Tiwanaku / Pumapunku Megaliths are Artificial Geopolymers 142 Corpuscles 01-Jan-20 18:41
Re: Tiwanaku / Pumapunku Megaliths are Artificial Geopolymers 188 Corpuscles 22-Dec-19 21:13
Re: Tiwanaku / Pumapunku Megaliths are Artificial Geopolymers 172 Corpuscles 22-Dec-19 21:30
Re: Tiwanaku / Pumapunku Megaliths are Artificial Geopolymers 166 Open mind 22-Dec-19 22:12
Re: Tiwanaku / Pumapunku Megaliths are Artificial Geopolymers 168 WVK 23-Dec-19 15:21
Re: Tiwanaku / Pumapunku Megaliths are Artificial Geopolymers 156 Corpuscles 23-Dec-19 21:22
Re: Tiwanaku / Pumapunku Megaliths are Artificial Geopolymers 156 Open mind 23-Dec-19 23:22
Re: Tiwanaku / Pumapunku Megaliths are Artificial Geopolymers 177 Hanslune 22-Dec-19 22:58
Re: Tiwanaku / Pumapunku Megaliths are Artificial Geopolymers 178 seasmith 23-Dec-19 03:04
Re: Tiwanaku / Pumapunku Megaliths are Artificial Geopolymers 173 Hanslune 23-Dec-19 07:20
Re: Tiwanaku / Pumapunku Megaliths are Artificial Geopolymers 170 Corpuscles 23-Dec-19 09:43
Re: Tiwanaku / Pumapunku Megaliths are Artificial Geopolymers 161 Hanslune 23-Dec-19 23:28
Re: Tiwanaku / Pumapunku Megaliths are Artificial Geopolymers 186 Thanos5150 24-Dec-19 16:53
Re: Tiwanaku / Pumapunku Megaliths are Artificial Geopolymers 174 Hanslune 24-Dec-19 22:35
Re: Tiwanaku / Pumapunku Megaliths are Artificial Geopolymers 242 Thanos5150 23-Dec-19 19:29
Re: Tiwanaku / Pumapunku Megaliths are Artificial Geopolymers 242 Corpuscles 23-Dec-19 21:19
Re: Tiwanaku / Pumapunku Megaliths are Artificial Geopolymers 253 Enigcom 02-Jan-20 17:29


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