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Hanslune Wrote:
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> The key word is 'reported' he left his homeland of
> Peru at the age of 21 but his mother way Inca
> Royalty.

I did not say "reported" and from what I have read it seems pretty certain he left after his father died in 1559.

> This is the English translation:
> [archive.org]
>
>
> A searchable version not in old English but a bit
> scrambled
>
> [archive.org]

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According to my best remembrance [this large stone] it has a hole or two upon the upper part of it, or such as pafles from one side to the other 5 the Indians call the holes the Eyes of the Stone, out of which it : wept blood -, from the Duft which is lodged in the Holes , and the continual droppings of water upon them, it has died the Stone in the parts with a reddish color, because the soil thereabouts is of the same color, and which the Indians say proceeded from the blood which flowed with the tears of that Stone. This Fable is commonly reported among the Indians, and I have heard it often from them. But the true Moral of this Fable, recounted by the Inca's Amautas, who were their Philosophers, and people of learning, was this : That this Stone, or Rock, was moved and drawn by twenty thousand Indians, who dragged and drew it with great Cables-, the undertaking was great, for it was to pass through cragged, and uneven ways, and over Ascents and Descents-, one half of the people drew before, the other half were on each side to pull the weight, and keep the Stone direct, lest it should fall into any precipice, or gravel it fell in any place, from whence it could never be recovered. It is said, that for want of due care in the who had the pulling of this weight, it happened to lean too much towards the descent of a hill, and being over-born by its great burden, it tumbled down a bank, and killed three or four thousand of the Indians who were the guides to tired and support it ; not withstanding which misfortune they again took courage, and raised the Stone, carrying it to the Plain where it now rests. The Blood which it shed, and squeezed from the Veins of the poor Wretches, were the true tears which flowed from the hollow orbs of its Eyes -, and because the weight was too vast to be carried up to the place, unto which it was designed, they said, that it tired tired and fainted in its Journey, attributing all the feelings and paflions of the Men to the inanimate and fenfelefs Stone. This, and many such Fables, the Indians converse among them, believing that such passages as there are best recommended to Posterity, and conserved under such wonderful and improbable fictions.

[emphasis mine]

> Book VII. Royal 'Commentaries. 200 & 201]

I've cleaned up the relevant section a little bit to make it readable. But this is why we ask question as in fact as suspected it is not la Vega's eye witness account, but part of a fable, a "wonderful and improbable fiction", told to him by the "Indians". It is also reffering to the effort required to move just this one stone which to believe the tale required 20,000 men to move. And as it says in the part I cut off, they were not able to actually get it to the site and had to abandon it leaving the stone to "weep blood" from the effort.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 24-Dec-19 16:48 by Thanos5150.

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