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Thanos5150 Wrote:
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> Hanslune Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > In his account, Garcilaso de la Vega reported
> that
> > "they moved them, dragging them with muscle
> power
> > using thick ropes; nor were the roads along
> which
> > they hauled them level, but very rough
> mountains
> > with steep slopes over which they were moved up
> > and down with sheer human strength."
>
> I have seen this quote before which starts and
> ends where you have it here. I would be interested
> in the rest of the quote because this sounds
> anecdotal and not something he actually saw the
> Inca doing. He was born in 1539 from a Spanish
> conqueror and Peruvian mother. By 1572 the Spanish
> had conquered the Inca, which la Vega had already
> moved to Spain by 1561, so I am not sure what
> large blocks la Vega would have seen moved during
> this 20+yr period while the Inca were being
> slaughtered, enslaved, and/or wiped out by
> disease.

The key word is 'reported' he left his homeland of Peru at the age of 21 but his mother way Inca Royalty.

This is the English translation: [archive.org]


A searchable version not in old English but a bit scrambled

[archive.org]

[quote="There were four chief Undertakers in the Building of this Fortrefs 5 the principal Perfon , who drew the Draught , and defigned the whole Plot , was Huallpa Rimachi, he was an Jnca, and ftiled Apu, which fignifies Chiefs the fecond to him was hca Maricanchi, and the third Acahuana Jma, to whom they afcribe the chief contrivance of the Buildings at Tlahuanacu, which we have formerly mentioned. The fourth and laft was Calla Cmch>g, in whofe time the great Stone which refted in the way was brought! thither , and his Name engraved on it , as a monument to conferve his memory -, the which Stone (or Rock rather) was of that vaft pro- portion, and fo exceeding all the others, that I would gladly infert here the true mealure of its height and thicknefs , but in regard I have not procured an exact and certain account of it, I (hall refer my felf to the relation of thofe who have leen it : It remains in the Plain before the Fortrefs, to which, as the Indians fay, it could never arrive, in regard it tired by the way, and wept bloud, proceeding from the toil and fatigue it had endured in its motion. The ftone is rough ana unpolilhed, in the fame manner as it was hewn from its Quarry , a great part of it is buried under ground, and they fay, it is now funk lower than when I faw it;

1 for they fanfied that there was great treafure hid under it, and for that reafon they digged about it as deep as they were able, that fo they might arrive at this imaginary Riches-, but in regard that as they digged the Stone funk lower, therefore the greateft part of it is now hidden under the Earth. According to my beft remembrance it hath a hole or two upon the upper part of it, or fuch as pafles from one fide to the other 5 the Indians callthefe holes the Eyes of the Stone, out of which it : wept bloud -, from the Duft which is lodged in thofe Holes , and the continual droppings of water upon them, it hath died the Stone in thofe parts with a reddifh colour, becaufe the foil thereabouts is of the fame colour, and which the Indians fay proceeded from the bloud which iflued with the tears of that Stone. This Fable is commonly reported amongft the India*?, and I have heard it often from them. But the true Moral of this Fable, recounted by the Inca's Amautas, who were their Philofophers, and people of learning, was this : That this Stone, or Rock, was moved and drawn by twenty thoufand Indians, who dragged and drew it with great Cables-, the undertaking was great, for it was to pais through cragged, and uneven ways, and over Afcents and Defcents-, one half of the people drew be- fore, the other half were on each fide to poife the weight, and keep the Stone di- rect, left it fhould fall into any precipice, or gravel it felf in any place, from whence it could never be recovered. It is faid, that for want of due care in thofe who had the poifing of this weight, it happened to lean too much towards the de- fcent of a hill, and being over-born by its great burthen, it tumbled down a bank, and killed three or four thoufand of thofe Indians who were the guides to dired and fupport it ; notwithftanding which misfortune they again took courage, and raifed the Stone, carrying it to the Plain where it now refts. The Bloud which it lhed, and fqueezed from the Veins of thefe poor Wretches, were the true tears which iflued from the hollow orbs of its Eyes -, and becaufe the weight was too vaft to be carried up to the place, unto which it was defigned, they faid, that it tired tired and fainted in its Journey, attributing all the feelings and paflions of the Men to the inanimate and fenfelefs Stone. This, and many fuch Fables, the Indians
conferve amongft them, believing that fuch pafiages as thefe are belt recommended to Pofterity, and conferved under fuch wonderfull and improbable fictions.

Book VII. Royal 'Commentaries. 200 & 201]

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