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Hi David, Jim W, and Jim A and any others fascinated by this discussion so far,

I decided to get a bit of much needed rest before continuing any more input to this topic as well as my own devoted specifically to this issue you see so well now David. How's the view from atop that 500 unit Pi GP? :) I think old Jacob would be impressed to see how you have commenced to fractionalizing like an Egyptian in your analysis methods. LOL! Strangest dream I had before waking up refreshed somewhat when I found myself gazing at some sort of memorial monument to the great civil battle of Metrology, all moss covered over like one would expect to see at any historic National location point of some epic event. The only names upon it I could make out were John Greaves, and oddly enough John Neal's, but there were many more I never got a better view of before my slumber was interrupted by daylight once again. The monument was situated right in the middle of a big crossroads point, which was also very interesting to me to observe. And in trying to interpret this dream knew it had something to do with this most crucial of all matters pertaining to what historical perspective road one came down to meet at this epic point. It was beginning to take on all the elements one might expect of the old Delta blues singers of the past like Robert Johnson's Deal with the Devil at a similar crossroads, trying desperately to achieve fame and stardom, only to be later glorified by such contemporary musicians as Eric Clapton riding on his coattails long after old Johnson was dead and gone still broke and penniless.

I am somewhat glad I opened up my topic specifically to address these issues so as not to distract too much from Jim Alison's article presented here for comments and analysis. Only there hasn't been too much comment and analysis regarding it except our own it seems. We are all seasoned veterans of this Metrology subject after all, and few and far between have accumulated as much background knowledge pertaining to the subject which takes so much time and effort to achieve. So that is no big wonder either. It is just an issue of who this article Jim Alison wrote expects his audience to likely interest. Would it be a general movie going public, or an academic one, or a somewhat radical bunch like ourselves. :) That is what I was getting at in my last post to him concerning the pains and effort it took to write such a detailed presentation. It is always somewhat prudent to err on the side of caution in these controversial matters I think, is what his intentions were by abbreviating figures and values of these old units the way he did. Because to go any further has such dramatic consequences, which I'm sure he is aware of and us also. Namely how one defines human progress itself, whether in terms of Ideals, or terms of Technological achievements. Because the technological achievements of humanity have accelerated so much since the time of the adoption of the current Metric standards, instead of any recollected remains of a former one which we now see so clearly stated in these old tomes of forgotten Metrological lore as Greaves and others. John Michell's Canonical model of Earth geodetic proportions and measures was born from the ashes of those former Ideals and not current Technological metric achievements. And it would appear those two elements will always be at odds with one another unfortunately. There will always be nostalgic parties such as ourselves who would agree that those still regarded primitive "Antients" got it right the first time as opposed to modern academic principals of human progress measured in dazzling technological achievements. The modern academic based world mentality already knows I'm sure, that it can't take another step forward without either falling off a proverbial Flat Earth abyss, or stepping back into the Past once again as we have done in recent years. So where does the Future lie ahead because of this situation? Only Time will tell I guess.

May all of our Futures be Merry and Bright on this Holiday season,


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Remen : Meridian 2309 Jim Alison 15-Nov-19 22:52
DUNE!: Remen : Meridian 221 PB Bytes 16-Nov-19 17:55
Re: DUNE!: Remen : Meridian 207 DUNE 17-Nov-19 09:56
Re: DUNE!: Remen : Meridian 178 Jim Alison 17-Nov-19 23:45
Re: DUNE!: Remen : Meridian 182 PB Bytes 17-Nov-19 23:59
Found it! 226 PB Bytes 18-Nov-19 02:55
Re: Found it! 183 Mercurial 20-Nov-19 11:44
Re: Found it! 164 Jim Alison 20-Nov-19 14:42
Squaring The Circle 193 Dr. Troglodyte 20-Nov-19 18:59
Re: Squaring The Circle 187 Jim Alison 20-Nov-19 20:02
Re: Squaring The Circle 178 Jim Alison 20-Nov-19 20:22
Remen references 195 Lee McGiffen 21-Nov-19 01:59
Re: Remen references 200 Jim Alison 21-Nov-19 04:29
Re: Remen references 168 magisterchessmutt 24-Nov-19 13:56
Re: Remen references 139 Jim Alison 24-Nov-19 20:05
Re: Remen references 156 magisterchessmutt 24-Nov-19 21:17
Re: Remen references 140 magisterchessmutt 25-Nov-19 01:24
Re: Remen references 140 magisterchessmutt 25-Nov-19 12:10
Re: Remen references 179 DUNE 25-Nov-19 13:17
Re: Remen references 114 Jim Alison 16-Jan-20 20:22
Drastic Geodetic Measures and Nippur Cubit 182 thinkitover 25-Nov-19 06:46
Re: Remen references 167 Jim Alison 26-Nov-19 08:04
Re: Remen references 190 Lee McGiffen 27-Nov-19 12:54
Re: Remen references 147 Mercurial 28-Nov-19 22:32
Re: Remen references 197 Jim Alison 01-Dec-19 06:15
Re: Squaring The Circle 200 magisterchessmutt 21-Nov-19 00:47
Re: Squaring The Circle 156 magisterchessmutt 21-Nov-19 02:32
Re: Squaring The Circle 153 Jim Alison 21-Nov-19 05:20
Re: Squaring The Circle 216 magisterchessmutt 21-Nov-19 06:26
Egyptian knowledge of √2 157 Lee McGiffen 22-Nov-19 06:39
Re: Egyptian knowledge of √2 136 magisterchessmutt 23-Nov-19 01:19
Re: Egyptian knowledge of √2 169 thinkitover 23-Nov-19 09:45
Re: Egyptian knowledge of √2 144 magisterchessmutt 23-Nov-19 14:42
Re: Egyptian knowledge of √2 140 PB Bytes 23-Nov-19 16:10
Everything Mick wrote here - 86 pages 151 geoffss 21-Nov-19 10:49
Re: Everything Mick wrote here - 86 pages 148 magisterchessmutt 21-Nov-19 11:54
Re: Squaring The Circle 115 molder 20-Dec-19 12:45
Re: Found it! 169 Mercurial 22-Nov-19 06:48
Re: Found it! 158 magisterchessmutt 22-Nov-19 12:01
Re: Found it! 153 PB Bytes 22-Nov-19 15:24
Re: Found it! 183 magisterchessmutt 22-Nov-19 23:55
Re: Found it! 146 PB Bytes 23-Nov-19 02:06
Re: Found it! 145 magisterchessmutt 23-Nov-19 02:36
Re: Found it! 145 PB Bytes 23-Nov-19 03:37
Re: Found it! 148 DUNE 23-Nov-19 18:42
Re: Found it! 135 PB Bytes 23-Nov-19 19:37
Re: Found it! 147 DUNE 23-Nov-19 20:14
Re: Found it! 136 PB Bytes 23-Nov-19 20:27
Re: Found it! 137 PB Bytes 23-Nov-19 20:46
Re: Found it! 143 DUNE 23-Nov-19 21:37
Re: Found it! 143 PB Bytes 23-Nov-19 21:55
Re: Found it! 148 DUNE 23-Nov-19 22:24
Re: Found it! 140 PB Bytes 23-Nov-19 22:44
Re: Found it! 194 PB Bytes 24-Nov-19 17:44
Re: Found it! 152 DUNE 24-Nov-19 18:29
Re: Found it! 153 PB Bytes 24-Nov-19 18:34
Re: Found it! 146 PB Bytes 23-Nov-19 20:59
Re: Found it! 143 magisterchessmutt 23-Nov-19 19:55
Totally debunked 147 Lee McGiffen 24-Nov-19 05:23
NOT Totally debunked 139 PB Bytes 24-Nov-19 05:41
eg: NOT Totally debunked 150 PB Bytes 24-Nov-19 06:12
Khufu <> Khafre 163 Dr. Troglodyte 23-Nov-19 00:28
Re: Khufu <> Khafre 140 Mercurial 24-Nov-19 19:12
Khufu <> Khafre - Update 99 Dr. Troglodyte 11-Jan-20 19:56
Re: Found it! 161 Jim Alison 23-Nov-19 01:35
Re: DUNE!: Remen : Meridian 156 magisterchessmutt 19-Nov-19 03:45
Re: DUNE!: Remen : Meridian 148 Jim Alison 19-Nov-19 14:05
Re: DUNE!: Remen : Meridian 152 magisterchessmutt 20-Nov-19 00:27
Re: DUNE!: Remen : Meridian 146 Jim Alison 20-Nov-19 15:34
Re: DUNE!: Remen : Meridian 142 magisterchessmutt 19-Nov-19 03:49
Re: DUNE!: Remen : Meridian 151 DUNE 19-Nov-19 10:37
Re: DUNE!: Remen : Meridian 147 Jim Alison 19-Nov-19 14:22
Re: DUNE!: Remen : Meridian 146 DUNE 19-Nov-19 15:37
Re: DUNE!: Remen : Meridian 141 Jim Alison 20-Nov-19 00:44
Re: DUNE!: Remen : Meridian 159 PB Bytes 19-Nov-19 16:43
Re: DUNE!: Remen : Meridian 145 Jim Alison 20-Nov-19 01:07
Re: DUNE!: Remen : Meridian 166 PB Bytes 20-Nov-19 01:38
Re: DUNE!: Remen : Meridian 145 Jim Alison 20-Nov-19 14:28
Where is this leading? 153 PB Bytes 21-Nov-19 17:19
Re: Where is this leading? 159 Lee McGiffen 22-Nov-19 06:49
Re: Remen : Meridian 166 PB Bytes 16-Nov-19 18:00
Re: Remen : Meridian 164 Jim Alison 16-Nov-19 22:09
Excellent! 172 thinkitover 16-Nov-19 18:29
Re: Excellent! 201 Jim Alison 16-Nov-19 22:24
Re: Excellent! 173 Lee McGiffen 18-Nov-19 07:36
Re: Excellent! 179 Jim Alison 18-Nov-19 15:55
Re: Excellent! 169 magisterchessmutt 19-Nov-19 03:57
Re: Remen : Meridian 162 Spiros 20-Nov-19 15:06
Re: Remen : Meridian 155 Spiros 20-Nov-19 19:28
Re: Remen : Meridian 150 Jim Alison 20-Nov-19 20:24
Re: Remen : Meridian 145 Spiros 20-Nov-19 22:25
Re: Remen : Meridian 181 Spiros 20-Nov-19 22:58
Re: Remen : Meridian 155 Spiros 20-Nov-19 23:49
Re: Remen : Meridian 156 Jim Alison 20-Nov-19 23:40
The Earth number 209 hendrik dirker 21-Nov-19 05:48
Re: The Earth number 182 Jim Alison 21-Nov-19 13:15
Re: The Earth number 165 molder 22-Nov-19 19:30
Re: The Earth number 148 Jim Alison 23-Nov-19 01:44
Geometry as Metrology? 173 thinkitover 23-Nov-19 22:56
Re: Geometry as Metrology? 161 magisterchessmutt 24-Nov-19 00:04
Re: Geometry as Metrology? 165 Jim Alison 24-Nov-19 01:16
Re: Geometry as Metrology? 187 magisterchessmutt 24-Nov-19 01:36
Re: Geometry as Metrology? 195 magisterchessmutt 24-Nov-19 01:49
Re: Remen : Meridian 232 magisterchessmutt 24-Nov-19 02:38
Re: Remen : Meridian 165 DavidK 11-Dec-19 23:26
Re: Remen : Meridian 148 DavidK 12-Dec-19 13:23
Re: Remen : Meridian 156 thinkitover 12-Dec-19 18:51
Re: Remen : Meridian 172 DavidK 12-Dec-19 21:27
Re: Remen : Meridian 126 Jiri Mruzek 13-Dec-19 00:55
Re: Remen : Meridian 119 DavidK 13-Dec-19 09:51
Re: Remen : Meridian 127 Jim Alison 13-Dec-19 03:48
Re: Remen : Meridian 119 magisterchessmutt 13-Dec-19 04:58
Re: Remen : Meridian 119 magisterchessmutt 13-Dec-19 05:44
Re: Remen : Meridian 122 DavidK 13-Dec-19 09:58
Re: Remen : Meridian 123 DavidK 13-Dec-19 09:15
Re: Remen : Meridian 118 magisterchessmutt 13-Dec-19 11:02
Re: Remen : Meridian 136 DavidK 13-Dec-19 11:07
Re: Earth circumference 149 drew 17-Dec-19 23:57
Re: Earth circumference 156 DavidK 18-Dec-19 11:29
Re: Earth circumference 151 drew 20-Dec-19 00:22
Re: Earth circumference 140 hendrik dirker 20-Dec-19 06:07
Re: Earth circumference 133 DavidK 20-Dec-19 13:27
Re: Earth circumference 119 hendrik dirker 21-Dec-19 12:48
Re: Earth circumference 127 Jim Alison 20-Dec-19 20:48
Re: Earth circumference 131 hendrik dirker 21-Dec-19 11:44
Re: Earth circumference 117 drew 20-Dec-19 23:48
Re: Remen : Meridian 124 Jim Alison 20-Dec-19 19:26
Re: Remen : Meridian 125 magisterchessmutt 21-Dec-19 01:54
Re: Remen : Meridian 123 Jim Alison 21-Dec-19 04:30
Re: Remen : Meridian 115 magisterchessmutt 21-Dec-19 07:43
Re: Remen : Meridian 117 DavidK 21-Dec-19 10:56
Re: Remen : Meridian 121 magisterchessmutt 21-Dec-19 11:24
Re: Remen : Meridian 115 magisterchessmutt 21-Dec-19 11:48
Re: Remen : Meridian 111 DavidK 21-Dec-19 16:08
Re: Remen : Meridian 136 DavidK 21-Dec-19 12:49
Re: Remen : Meridian 118 Jim Alison 21-Dec-19 15:19
Re: Remen : Meridian 117 molder 21-Dec-19 20:33
Re: Remen : Meridian 108 DavidK 21-Dec-19 23:49
Re: Remen : Meridian 116 Jim Alison 22-Dec-19 03:02
Re: Remen : Meridian 114 DavidK 22-Dec-19 10:30
Re: Roman measures Hang on let us get this right. 118 molder 22-Dec-19 13:03
Re: Roman measures Hang on let us get this right. 112 DavidK 22-Dec-19 15:01
Re: Roman measures Hang on let us get this right. 122 magisterchessmutt 22-Dec-19 17:13
Re: Roman measures Hang on let us get this right. 127 DavidK 22-Dec-19 17:32
Re: Roman measures Hang on let us get this right. 120 Jim Alison 24-Dec-19 05:23
Stecchini's Metrics 118 thinkitover 21-Dec-19 16:01
Re: Stecchini's Metrics 125 magisterchessmutt 21-Dec-19 17:17
Re: Stecchini's Metrics 119 thinkitover 24-Dec-19 15:06
Re: Remen : Meridian 122 drew 23-Dec-19 00:44
Re: Remen : Meridian 118 Jim Alison 23-Dec-19 02:55
Re: Remen : Meridian 132 DavidK 23-Dec-19 12:34
Re: Remen : Meridian 135 Jim Alison 24-Dec-19 01:09
Re: Remen : Meridian 115 drew 27-Dec-19 23:06
Re: Remen : Meridian 128 DavidK 27-Dec-19 23:59
Re: Remen : Meridian 125 drew 28-Dec-19 22:24
Re: Remen : Meridian 167 DavidK 29-Dec-19 00:50
Re: Remen : Meridian 83 Jim Alison 19-Apr-20 18:46
Re: Remen : Meridian 63 drew 22-Apr-20 23:44
Re: Remen : Meridian 73 magisterchessmutt 23-Apr-20 13:03
Re: Remen : Meridian 79 magisterchessmutt 24-Apr-20 08:14
Re: Remen : Meridian 119 Jim Alison 11-Jan-20 03:53
Re: Remen : Meridian 108 DavidK 11-Jan-20 13:54
The Egyptian Remen 14.58333r inches 140 DavidK 11-Jan-20 16:48
Re: Remen : Meridian 106 Jim Alison 22-Jan-20 00:10
Re: Remen : Meridian 107 Mercurial 22-Jan-20 20:59
say hello to rodz? 127 DavidK 11-Jan-20 18:01
Re: say hello to rodz? 108 thinkitover 12-Jan-20 06:03
Re: say hello to rodz? 118 DavidK 12-Jan-20 12:45
Re: say hello to rodz? 139 thinkitover 13-Jan-20 06:41
Re: Remen : Meridian 104 akitu 24-Apr-20 19:26

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