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Hi David, Jim W, and Jim A and any others fascinated by this discussion so far,

I decided to get a bit of much needed rest before continuing any more input to this topic as well as my own devoted specifically to this issue you see so well now David. How's the view from atop that 500 unit Pi GP? :) I think old Jacob would be impressed to see how you have commenced to fractionalizing like an Egyptian in your analysis methods. LOL! Strangest dream I had before waking up refreshed somewhat when I found myself gazing at some sort of memorial monument to the great civil battle of Metrology, all moss covered over like one would expect to see at any historic National location point of some epic event. The only names upon it I could make out were John Greaves, and oddly enough John Neal's, but there were many more I never got a better view of before my slumber was interrupted by daylight once again. The monument was situated right in the middle of a big crossroads point, which was also very interesting to me to observe. And in trying to interpret this dream knew it had something to do with this most crucial of all matters pertaining to what historical perspective road one came down to meet at this epic point. It was beginning to take on all the elements one might expect of the old Delta blues singers of the past like Robert Johnson's Deal with the Devil at a similar crossroads, trying desperately to achieve fame and stardom, only to be later glorified by such contemporary musicians as Eric Clapton riding on his coattails long after old Johnson was dead and gone still broke and penniless.

I am somewhat glad I opened up my topic specifically to address these issues so as not to distract too much from Jim Alison's article presented here for comments and analysis. Only there hasn't been too much comment and analysis regarding it except our own it seems. We are all seasoned veterans of this Metrology subject after all, and few and far between have accumulated as much background knowledge pertaining to the subject which takes so much time and effort to achieve. So that is no big wonder either. It is just an issue of who this article Jim Alison wrote expects his audience to likely interest. Would it be a general movie going public, or an academic one, or a somewhat radical bunch like ourselves. :) That is what I was getting at in my last post to him concerning the pains and effort it took to write such a detailed presentation. It is always somewhat prudent to err on the side of caution in these controversial matters I think, is what his intentions were by abbreviating figures and values of these old units the way he did. Because to go any further has such dramatic consequences, which I'm sure he is aware of and us also. Namely how one defines human progress itself, whether in terms of Ideals, or terms of Technological achievements. Because the technological achievements of humanity have accelerated so much since the time of the adoption of the current Metric standards, instead of any recollected remains of a former one which we now see so clearly stated in these old tomes of forgotten Metrological lore as Greaves and others. John Michell's Canonical model of Earth geodetic proportions and measures was born from the ashes of those former Ideals and not current Technological metric achievements. And it would appear those two elements will always be at odds with one another unfortunately. There will always be nostalgic parties such as ourselves who would agree that those still regarded primitive "Antients" got it right the first time as opposed to modern academic principals of human progress measured in dazzling technological achievements. The modern academic based world mentality already knows I'm sure, that it can't take another step forward without either falling off a proverbial Flat Earth abyss, or stepping back into the Past once again as we have done in recent years. So where does the Future lie ahead because of this situation? Only Time will tell I guess.

May all of our Futures be Merry and Bright on this Holiday season,

Stephen

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Remen : Meridian 2634 Jim Alison 15-Nov-19 22:52
DUNE!: Remen : Meridian 328 PB Bytes 16-Nov-19 17:55
Re: DUNE!: Remen : Meridian 317 DUNE 17-Nov-19 09:56
Re: DUNE!: Remen : Meridian 295 Jim Alison 17-Nov-19 23:45
Re: DUNE!: Remen : Meridian 297 PB Bytes 17-Nov-19 23:59
Found it! 336 PB Bytes 18-Nov-19 02:55
Re: Found it! 295 Mercurial 20-Nov-19 11:44
Re: Found it! 278 Jim Alison 20-Nov-19 14:42
Squaring The Circle 305 Dr. Troglodyte 20-Nov-19 18:59
Re: Squaring The Circle 299 Jim Alison 20-Nov-19 20:02
Re: Squaring The Circle 290 Jim Alison 20-Nov-19 20:22
Remen references 314 Lee McGiffen 21-Nov-19 01:59
Re: Remen references 316 Jim Alison 21-Nov-19 04:29
Re: Remen references 284 magisterchessmutt 24-Nov-19 13:56
Re: Remen references 252 Jim Alison 24-Nov-19 20:05
Re: Remen references 278 magisterchessmutt 24-Nov-19 21:17
Re: Remen references 260 magisterchessmutt 25-Nov-19 01:24
Re: Remen references 249 magisterchessmutt 25-Nov-19 12:10
Re: Remen references 305 DUNE 25-Nov-19 13:17
Re: Remen references 216 Jim Alison 16-Jan-20 20:22
Drastic Geodetic Measures and Nippur Cubit 298 thinkitover 25-Nov-19 06:46
Re: Remen references 284 Jim Alison 26-Nov-19 08:04
Re: Remen references 315 Lee McGiffen 27-Nov-19 12:54
Re: Remen references 261 Mercurial 28-Nov-19 22:32
Re: Remen references 331 Jim Alison 01-Dec-19 06:15
Re: Squaring The Circle 325 magisterchessmutt 21-Nov-19 00:47
Re: Squaring The Circle 271 magisterchessmutt 21-Nov-19 02:32
Re: Squaring The Circle 262 Jim Alison 21-Nov-19 05:20
Re: Squaring The Circle 341 magisterchessmutt 21-Nov-19 06:26
Egyptian knowledge of √2 264 Lee McGiffen 22-Nov-19 06:39
Re: Egyptian knowledge of √2 238 magisterchessmutt 23-Nov-19 01:19
Re: Egyptian knowledge of √2 288 thinkitover 23-Nov-19 09:45
Re: Egyptian knowledge of √2 254 magisterchessmutt 23-Nov-19 14:42
Re: Egyptian knowledge of √2 248 PB Bytes 23-Nov-19 16:10
Everything Mick wrote here - 86 pages 269 geoffss 21-Nov-19 10:49
Re: Everything Mick wrote here - 86 pages 263 magisterchessmutt 21-Nov-19 11:54
Re: Squaring The Circle 227 molder 20-Dec-19 12:45
Re: Found it! 300 Mercurial 22-Nov-19 06:48
Re: Found it! 264 magisterchessmutt 22-Nov-19 12:01
Re: Found it! 259 PB Bytes 22-Nov-19 15:24
Re: Found it! 298 magisterchessmutt 22-Nov-19 23:55
Re: Found it! 255 PB Bytes 23-Nov-19 02:06
Re: Found it! 252 magisterchessmutt 23-Nov-19 02:36
Re: Found it! 247 PB Bytes 23-Nov-19 03:37
Re: Found it! 257 DUNE 23-Nov-19 18:42
Re: Found it! 240 PB Bytes 23-Nov-19 19:37
Re: Found it! 258 DUNE 23-Nov-19 20:14
Re: Found it! 247 PB Bytes 23-Nov-19 20:27
Re: Found it! 244 PB Bytes 23-Nov-19 20:46
Re: Found it! 248 DUNE 23-Nov-19 21:37
Re: Found it! 250 PB Bytes 23-Nov-19 21:55
Re: Found it! 252 DUNE 23-Nov-19 22:24
Re: Found it! 244 PB Bytes 23-Nov-19 22:44
Re: Found it! 304 PB Bytes 24-Nov-19 17:44
Re: Found it! 260 DUNE 24-Nov-19 18:29
Re: Found it! 264 PB Bytes 24-Nov-19 18:34
Re: Found it! 251 PB Bytes 23-Nov-19 20:59
Re: Found it! 247 magisterchessmutt 23-Nov-19 19:55
Totally debunked 256 Lee McGiffen 24-Nov-19 05:23
NOT Totally debunked 245 PB Bytes 24-Nov-19 05:41
eg: NOT Totally debunked 263 PB Bytes 24-Nov-19 06:12
Khufu <> Khafre 284 Dr. Troglodyte 23-Nov-19 00:28
Re: Khufu <> Khafre 247 Mercurial 24-Nov-19 19:12
Khufu <> Khafre - Update 210 Dr. Troglodyte 11-Jan-20 19:56
Re: Found it! 271 Jim Alison 23-Nov-19 01:35
Re: DUNE!: Remen : Meridian 261 magisterchessmutt 19-Nov-19 03:45
Re: DUNE!: Remen : Meridian 256 Jim Alison 19-Nov-19 14:05
Re: DUNE!: Remen : Meridian 274 magisterchessmutt 20-Nov-19 00:27
Re: DUNE!: Remen : Meridian 257 Jim Alison 20-Nov-19 15:34
Re: DUNE!: Remen : Meridian 258 magisterchessmutt 19-Nov-19 03:49
Re: DUNE!: Remen : Meridian 262 DUNE 19-Nov-19 10:37
Re: DUNE!: Remen : Meridian 257 Jim Alison 19-Nov-19 14:22
Re: DUNE!: Remen : Meridian 248 DUNE 19-Nov-19 15:37
Re: DUNE!: Remen : Meridian 250 Jim Alison 20-Nov-19 00:44
Re: DUNE!: Remen : Meridian 270 PB Bytes 19-Nov-19 16:43
Re: DUNE!: Remen : Meridian 256 Jim Alison 20-Nov-19 01:07
Re: DUNE!: Remen : Meridian 283 PB Bytes 20-Nov-19 01:38
Re: DUNE!: Remen : Meridian 254 Jim Alison 20-Nov-19 14:28
Where is this leading? 263 PB Bytes 21-Nov-19 17:19
Re: Where is this leading? 275 Lee McGiffen 22-Nov-19 06:49
Re: Remen : Meridian 272 PB Bytes 16-Nov-19 18:00
Re: Remen : Meridian 275 Jim Alison 16-Nov-19 22:09
Excellent! 282 thinkitover 16-Nov-19 18:29
Re: Excellent! 320 Jim Alison 16-Nov-19 22:24
Re: Excellent! 304 Lee McGiffen 18-Nov-19 07:36
Re: Excellent! 298 Jim Alison 18-Nov-19 15:55
Re: Excellent! 278 magisterchessmutt 19-Nov-19 03:57
Re: Remen : Meridian 273 Spiros 20-Nov-19 15:06
Re: Remen : Meridian 266 Spiros 20-Nov-19 19:28
Re: Remen : Meridian 262 Jim Alison 20-Nov-19 20:24
Re: Remen : Meridian 259 Spiros 20-Nov-19 22:25
Re: Remen : Meridian 292 Spiros 20-Nov-19 22:58
Re: Remen : Meridian 272 Spiros 20-Nov-19 23:49
Re: Remen : Meridian 265 Jim Alison 20-Nov-19 23:40
The Earth number 336 hendrik dirker 21-Nov-19 05:48
Re: The Earth number 286 Jim Alison 21-Nov-19 13:15
Re: The Earth number 281 molder 22-Nov-19 19:30
Re: The Earth number 256 Jim Alison 23-Nov-19 01:44
Geometry as Metrology? 309 thinkitover 23-Nov-19 22:56
Re: Geometry as Metrology? 272 magisterchessmutt 24-Nov-19 00:04
Re: Geometry as Metrology? 280 Jim Alison 24-Nov-19 01:16
Re: Geometry as Metrology? 308 magisterchessmutt 24-Nov-19 01:36
Re: Geometry as Metrology? 311 magisterchessmutt 24-Nov-19 01:49
Re: Remen : Meridian 416 magisterchessmutt 24-Nov-19 02:38
Re: Remen : Meridian 282 DavidK 11-Dec-19 23:26
Re: Remen : Meridian 266 DavidK 12-Dec-19 13:23
Re: Remen : Meridian 312 thinkitover 12-Dec-19 18:51
Re: Remen : Meridian 287 DavidK 12-Dec-19 21:27
Re: Remen : Meridian 240 Jiri Mruzek 13-Dec-19 00:55
Re: Remen : Meridian 226 DavidK 13-Dec-19 09:51
Re: Remen : Meridian 240 Jim Alison 13-Dec-19 03:48
Re: Remen : Meridian 232 magisterchessmutt 13-Dec-19 04:58
Re: Remen : Meridian 229 magisterchessmutt 13-Dec-19 05:44
Re: Remen : Meridian 229 DavidK 13-Dec-19 09:58
Re: Remen : Meridian 233 DavidK 13-Dec-19 09:15
Re: Remen : Meridian 234 magisterchessmutt 13-Dec-19 11:02
Re: Remen : Meridian 248 DavidK 13-Dec-19 11:07
Re: Earth circumference 308 drew 17-Dec-19 23:57
Re: Earth circumference 288 DavidK 18-Dec-19 11:29
Re: Earth circumference 256 drew 20-Dec-19 00:22
Re: Earth circumference 261 hendrik dirker 20-Dec-19 06:07
Re: Earth circumference 239 DavidK 20-Dec-19 13:27
Re: Earth circumference 226 hendrik dirker 21-Dec-19 12:48
Re: Earth circumference 242 Jim Alison 20-Dec-19 20:48
Re: Earth circumference 241 hendrik dirker 21-Dec-19 11:44
Re: Earth circumference 221 drew 20-Dec-19 23:48
Re: Remen : Meridian 230 Jim Alison 20-Dec-19 19:26
Re: Remen : Meridian 226 magisterchessmutt 21-Dec-19 01:54
Re: Remen : Meridian 234 Jim Alison 21-Dec-19 04:30
Re: Remen : Meridian 230 magisterchessmutt 21-Dec-19 07:43
Re: Remen : Meridian 228 DavidK 21-Dec-19 10:56
Re: Remen : Meridian 228 magisterchessmutt 21-Dec-19 11:24
Re: Remen : Meridian 220 magisterchessmutt 21-Dec-19 11:48
Re: Remen : Meridian 214 DavidK 21-Dec-19 16:08
Re: Remen : Meridian 243 DavidK 21-Dec-19 12:49
Re: Remen : Meridian 228 Jim Alison 21-Dec-19 15:19
Re: Remen : Meridian 222 molder 21-Dec-19 20:33
Re: Remen : Meridian 216 DavidK 21-Dec-19 23:49
Re: Remen : Meridian 217 Jim Alison 22-Dec-19 03:02
Re: Remen : Meridian 213 DavidK 22-Dec-19 10:30
Re: Roman measures Hang on let us get this right. 226 molder 22-Dec-19 13:03
Re: Roman measures Hang on let us get this right. 219 DavidK 22-Dec-19 15:01
Re: Roman measures Hang on let us get this right. 224 magisterchessmutt 22-Dec-19 17:13
Re: Roman measures Hang on let us get this right. 230 DavidK 22-Dec-19 17:32
Re: Roman measures Hang on let us get this right. 224 Jim Alison 24-Dec-19 05:23
Stecchini's Metrics 224 thinkitover 21-Dec-19 16:01
Re: Stecchini's Metrics 225 magisterchessmutt 21-Dec-19 17:17
Re: Stecchini's Metrics 227 thinkitover 24-Dec-19 15:06
Re: Remen : Meridian 226 drew 23-Dec-19 00:44
Re: Remen : Meridian 219 Jim Alison 23-Dec-19 02:55
Re: Remen : Meridian 238 DavidK 23-Dec-19 12:34
Re: Remen : Meridian 239 Jim Alison 24-Dec-19 01:09
Re: Remen : Meridian 217 drew 27-Dec-19 23:06
Re: Remen : Meridian 235 DavidK 27-Dec-19 23:59
Re: Remen : Meridian 235 drew 28-Dec-19 22:24
Re: Remen : Meridian 290 DavidK 29-Dec-19 00:50
Re: Remen : Meridian 194 Jim Alison 19-Apr-20 18:46
Re: Remen : Meridian 174 drew 22-Apr-20 23:44
Re: Remen : Meridian 187 magisterchessmutt 23-Apr-20 13:03
Re: Remen : Meridian 195 magisterchessmutt 24-Apr-20 08:14
Re: Remen : Meridian 221 Jim Alison 11-Jan-20 03:53
Re: Remen : Meridian 214 DavidK 11-Jan-20 13:54
The Egyptian Remen 14.58333r inches 361 DavidK 11-Jan-20 16:48
Re: Remen : Meridian 215 Jim Alison 22-Jan-20 00:10
Re: Remen : Meridian 205 Mercurial 22-Jan-20 20:59
say hello to rodz? 234 DavidK 11-Jan-20 18:01
Re: say hello to rodz? 216 thinkitover 12-Jan-20 06:03
Re: say hello to rodz? 222 DavidK 12-Jan-20 12:45
Re: say hello to rodz? 298 thinkitover 13-Jan-20 06:41
Re: Remen : Meridian 247 akitu 24-Apr-20 19:26


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