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Hi David, Jim W, and Jim A and any others fascinated by this discussion so far,

I decided to get a bit of much needed rest before continuing any more input to this topic as well as my own devoted specifically to this issue you see so well now David. How's the view from atop that 500 unit Pi GP? :) I think old Jacob would be impressed to see how you have commenced to fractionalizing like an Egyptian in your analysis methods. LOL! Strangest dream I had before waking up refreshed somewhat when I found myself gazing at some sort of memorial monument to the great civil battle of Metrology, all moss covered over like one would expect to see at any historic National location point of some epic event. The only names upon it I could make out were John Greaves, and oddly enough John Neal's, but there were many more I never got a better view of before my slumber was interrupted by daylight once again. The monument was situated right in the middle of a big crossroads point, which was also very interesting to me to observe. And in trying to interpret this dream knew it had something to do with this most crucial of all matters pertaining to what historical perspective road one came down to meet at this epic point. It was beginning to take on all the elements one might expect of the old Delta blues singers of the past like Robert Johnson's Deal with the Devil at a similar crossroads, trying desperately to achieve fame and stardom, only to be later glorified by such contemporary musicians as Eric Clapton riding on his coattails long after old Johnson was dead and gone still broke and penniless.

I am somewhat glad I opened up my topic specifically to address these issues so as not to distract too much from Jim Alison's article presented here for comments and analysis. Only there hasn't been too much comment and analysis regarding it except our own it seems. We are all seasoned veterans of this Metrology subject after all, and few and far between have accumulated as much background knowledge pertaining to the subject which takes so much time and effort to achieve. So that is no big wonder either. It is just an issue of who this article Jim Alison wrote expects his audience to likely interest. Would it be a general movie going public, or an academic one, or a somewhat radical bunch like ourselves. :) That is what I was getting at in my last post to him concerning the pains and effort it took to write such a detailed presentation. It is always somewhat prudent to err on the side of caution in these controversial matters I think, is what his intentions were by abbreviating figures and values of these old units the way he did. Because to go any further has such dramatic consequences, which I'm sure he is aware of and us also. Namely how one defines human progress itself, whether in terms of Ideals, or terms of Technological achievements. Because the technological achievements of humanity have accelerated so much since the time of the adoption of the current Metric standards, instead of any recollected remains of a former one which we now see so clearly stated in these old tomes of forgotten Metrological lore as Greaves and others. John Michell's Canonical model of Earth geodetic proportions and measures was born from the ashes of those former Ideals and not current Technological metric achievements. And it would appear those two elements will always be at odds with one another unfortunately. There will always be nostalgic parties such as ourselves who would agree that those still regarded primitive "Antients" got it right the first time as opposed to modern academic principals of human progress measured in dazzling technological achievements. The modern academic based world mentality already knows I'm sure, that it can't take another step forward without either falling off a proverbial Flat Earth abyss, or stepping back into the Past once again as we have done in recent years. So where does the Future lie ahead because of this situation? Only Time will tell I guess.

May all of our Futures be Merry and Bright on this Holiday season,


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Remen : Meridian 1972 Jim Alison 15-Nov-19 22:52
DUNE!: Remen : Meridian 154 Poster Boy 16-Nov-19 17:55
Re: DUNE!: Remen : Meridian 140 DUNE 17-Nov-19 09:56
Re: DUNE!: Remen : Meridian 114 Jim Alison 17-Nov-19 23:45
Re: DUNE!: Remen : Meridian 111 Poster Boy 17-Nov-19 23:59
Found it! 147 Poster Boy 18-Nov-19 02:55
Re: Found it! 113 Mercurial 20-Nov-19 11:44
Re: Found it! 100 Jim Alison 20-Nov-19 14:42
Squaring The Circle 115 Dr. Troglodyte 20-Nov-19 18:59
Re: Squaring The Circle 113 Jim Alison 20-Nov-19 20:02
Re: Squaring The Circle 112 Jim Alison 20-Nov-19 20:22
Remen references 124 Lee McGiffen 21-Nov-19 01:59
Re: Remen references 125 Jim Alison 21-Nov-19 04:29
Re: Remen references 97 magisterchessmutt 24-Nov-19 13:56
Re: Remen references 74 Jim Alison 24-Nov-19 20:05
Re: Remen references 92 magisterchessmutt 24-Nov-19 21:17
Re: Remen references 77 magisterchessmutt 25-Nov-19 01:24
Re: Remen references 78 magisterchessmutt 25-Nov-19 12:10
Re: Remen references 105 DUNE 25-Nov-19 13:17
Re: Remen references 50 Jim Alison 16-Jan-20 20:22
Drastic Geodetic Measures and Nippur Cubit 93 thinkitover 25-Nov-19 06:46
Re: Remen references 96 Jim Alison 26-Nov-19 08:04
Re: Remen references 106 Lee McGiffen 27-Nov-19 12:54
Re: Remen references 82 Mercurial 28-Nov-19 22:32
Re: Remen references 109 Jim Alison 01-Dec-19 06:15
Re: Squaring The Circle 128 magisterchessmutt 21-Nov-19 00:47
Re: Squaring The Circle 88 magisterchessmutt 21-Nov-19 02:32
Re: Squaring The Circle 91 Jim Alison 21-Nov-19 05:20
Re: Squaring The Circle 139 magisterchessmutt 21-Nov-19 06:26
Egyptian knowledge of √2 92 Lee McGiffen 22-Nov-19 06:39
Re: Egyptian knowledge of √2 76 magisterchessmutt 23-Nov-19 01:19
Re: Egyptian knowledge of √2 101 thinkitover 23-Nov-19 09:45
Re: Egyptian knowledge of √2 81 magisterchessmutt 23-Nov-19 14:42
Re: Egyptian knowledge of √2 76 Poster Boy 23-Nov-19 16:10
Everything Mick wrote here - 86 pages 88 geoffss 21-Nov-19 10:49
Re: Everything Mick wrote here - 86 pages 83 magisterchessmutt 21-Nov-19 11:54
Re: Squaring The Circle 48 molder 20-Dec-19 12:45
Re: Found it! 95 Mercurial 22-Nov-19 06:48
Re: Found it! 91 magisterchessmutt 22-Nov-19 12:01
Re: Found it! 87 Poster Boy 22-Nov-19 15:24
Re: Found it! 95 magisterchessmutt 22-Nov-19 23:55
Re: Found it! 79 Poster Boy 23-Nov-19 02:06
Re: Found it! 79 magisterchessmutt 23-Nov-19 02:36
Re: Found it! 79 Poster Boy 23-Nov-19 03:37
Re: Found it! 86 DUNE 23-Nov-19 18:42
Re: Found it! 74 Poster Boy 23-Nov-19 19:37
Re: Found it! 83 DUNE 23-Nov-19 20:14
Re: Found it! 75 Poster Boy 23-Nov-19 20:27
Re: Found it! 75 Poster Boy 23-Nov-19 20:46
Re: Found it! 80 DUNE 23-Nov-19 21:37
Re: Found it! 79 Poster Boy 23-Nov-19 21:55
Re: Found it! 82 DUNE 23-Nov-19 22:24
Re: Found it! 75 Poster Boy 23-Nov-19 22:44
Re: Found it! 109 Poster Boy 24-Nov-19 17:44
Re: Found it! 79 DUNE 24-Nov-19 18:29
Re: Found it! 83 Poster Boy 24-Nov-19 18:34
Re: Found it! 79 Poster Boy 23-Nov-19 20:59
Re: Found it! 76 magisterchessmutt 23-Nov-19 19:55
Totally debunked 80 Lee McGiffen 24-Nov-19 05:23
NOT Totally debunked 76 Poster Boy 24-Nov-19 05:41
eg: NOT Totally debunked 88 Poster Boy 24-Nov-19 06:12
Khufu <> Khafre 96 Dr. Troglodyte 23-Nov-19 00:28
Re: Khufu <> Khafre 72 Mercurial 24-Nov-19 19:12
Khufu <> Khafre - Update 36 Dr. Troglodyte 11-Jan-20 19:56
Re: Found it! 95 Jim Alison 23-Nov-19 01:35
Re: DUNE!: Remen : Meridian 95 magisterchessmutt 19-Nov-19 03:45
Re: DUNE!: Remen : Meridian 85 Jim Alison 19-Nov-19 14:05
Re: DUNE!: Remen : Meridian 90 magisterchessmutt 20-Nov-19 00:27
Re: DUNE!: Remen : Meridian 83 Jim Alison 20-Nov-19 15:34
Re: DUNE!: Remen : Meridian 81 magisterchessmutt 19-Nov-19 03:49
Re: DUNE!: Remen : Meridian 87 DUNE 19-Nov-19 10:37
Re: DUNE!: Remen : Meridian 81 Jim Alison 19-Nov-19 14:22
Re: DUNE!: Remen : Meridian 82 DUNE 19-Nov-19 15:37
Re: DUNE!: Remen : Meridian 78 Jim Alison 20-Nov-19 00:44
Re: DUNE!: Remen : Meridian 94 Poster Boy 19-Nov-19 16:43
Re: DUNE!: Remen : Meridian 81 Jim Alison 20-Nov-19 01:07
Re: DUNE!: Remen : Meridian 98 Poster Boy 20-Nov-19 01:38
Re: DUNE!: Remen : Meridian 83 Jim Alison 20-Nov-19 14:28
Where is this leading? 88 Poster Boy 21-Nov-19 17:19
Re: Where is this leading? 90 Lee McGiffen 22-Nov-19 06:49
Re: Remen : Meridian 104 Poster Boy 16-Nov-19 18:00
Re: Remen : Meridian 101 Jim Alison 16-Nov-19 22:09
Excellent! 106 thinkitover 16-Nov-19 18:29
Re: Excellent! 133 Jim Alison 16-Nov-19 22:24
Re: Excellent! 106 Lee McGiffen 18-Nov-19 07:36
Re: Excellent! 108 Jim Alison 18-Nov-19 15:55
Re: Excellent! 103 magisterchessmutt 19-Nov-19 03:57
Re: Remen : Meridian 95 Spiros 20-Nov-19 15:06
Re: Remen : Meridian 86 Spiros 20-Nov-19 19:28
Re: Remen : Meridian 86 Jim Alison 20-Nov-19 20:24
Re: Remen : Meridian 78 Spiros 20-Nov-19 22:25
Re: Remen : Meridian 101 Spiros 20-Nov-19 22:58
Re: Remen : Meridian 85 Spiros 20-Nov-19 23:49
Re: Remen : Meridian 93 Jim Alison 20-Nov-19 23:40
The Earth number 142 hendrik dirker 21-Nov-19 05:48
Re: The Earth number 121 Jim Alison 21-Nov-19 13:15
Re: The Earth number 102 molder 22-Nov-19 19:30
Re: The Earth number 83 Jim Alison 23-Nov-19 01:44
Geometry as Metrology? 102 thinkitover 23-Nov-19 22:56
Re: Geometry as Metrology? 91 magisterchessmutt 24-Nov-19 00:04
Re: Geometry as Metrology? 96 Jim Alison 24-Nov-19 01:16
Re: Geometry as Metrology? 102 magisterchessmutt 24-Nov-19 01:36
Re: Geometry as Metrology? 127 magisterchessmutt 24-Nov-19 01:49
Re: Remen : Meridian 132 magisterchessmutt 24-Nov-19 02:38
Re: Remen : Meridian 92 DavidK 11-Dec-19 23:26
Re: Remen : Meridian 78 DavidK 12-Dec-19 13:23
Re: Remen : Meridian 68 thinkitover 12-Dec-19 18:51
Re: Remen : Meridian 80 DavidK 12-Dec-19 21:27
Re: Remen : Meridian 60 Jiri Mruzek 13-Dec-19 00:55
Re: Remen : Meridian 57 DavidK 13-Dec-19 09:51
Re: Remen : Meridian 60 Jim Alison 13-Dec-19 03:48
Re: Remen : Meridian 60 magisterchessmutt 13-Dec-19 04:58
Re: Remen : Meridian 60 magisterchessmutt 13-Dec-19 05:44
Re: Remen : Meridian 62 DavidK 13-Dec-19 09:58
Re: Remen : Meridian 62 DavidK 13-Dec-19 09:15
Re: Remen : Meridian 54 magisterchessmutt 13-Dec-19 11:02
Re: Remen : Meridian 72 DavidK 13-Dec-19 11:07
Re: Earth circumference 80 drew 17-Dec-19 23:57
Re: Earth circumference 81 DavidK 18-Dec-19 11:29
Re: Earth circumference 85 drew 20-Dec-19 00:22
Re: Earth circumference 71 hendrik dirker 20-Dec-19 06:07
Re: Earth circumference 69 DavidK 20-Dec-19 13:27
Re: Earth circumference 52 hendrik dirker 21-Dec-19 12:48
Re: Earth circumference 62 Jim Alison 20-Dec-19 20:48
Re: Earth circumference 58 hendrik dirker 21-Dec-19 11:44
Re: Earth circumference 55 drew 20-Dec-19 23:48
Re: Remen : Meridian 59 Jim Alison 20-Dec-19 19:26
Re: Remen : Meridian 62 magisterchessmutt 21-Dec-19 01:54
Re: Remen : Meridian 59 Jim Alison 21-Dec-19 04:30
Re: Remen : Meridian 48 magisterchessmutt 21-Dec-19 07:43
Re: Remen : Meridian 52 DavidK 21-Dec-19 10:56
Re: Remen : Meridian 58 magisterchessmutt 21-Dec-19 11:24
Re: Remen : Meridian 52 magisterchessmutt 21-Dec-19 11:48
Re: Remen : Meridian 46 DavidK 21-Dec-19 16:08
Re: Remen : Meridian 68 DavidK 21-Dec-19 12:49
Re: Remen : Meridian 53 Jim Alison 21-Dec-19 15:19
Re: Remen : Meridian 51 molder 21-Dec-19 20:33
Re: Remen : Meridian 47 DavidK 21-Dec-19 23:49
Re: Remen : Meridian 52 Jim Alison 22-Dec-19 03:02
Re: Remen : Meridian 55 DavidK 22-Dec-19 10:30
Re: Roman measures Hang on let us get this right. 53 molder 22-Dec-19 13:03
Re: Roman measures Hang on let us get this right. 51 DavidK 22-Dec-19 15:01
Re: Roman measures Hang on let us get this right. 63 magisterchessmutt 22-Dec-19 17:13
Re: Roman measures Hang on let us get this right. 65 DavidK 22-Dec-19 17:32
Re: Roman measures Hang on let us get this right. 59 Jim Alison 24-Dec-19 05:23
Stecchini's Metrics 56 thinkitover 21-Dec-19 16:01
Re: Stecchini's Metrics 65 magisterchessmutt 21-Dec-19 17:17
Re: Stecchini's Metrics 57 thinkitover 24-Dec-19 15:06
Re: Remen : Meridian 58 drew 23-Dec-19 00:44
Re: Remen : Meridian 57 Jim Alison 23-Dec-19 02:55
Re: Remen : Meridian 67 DavidK 23-Dec-19 12:34
Re: Remen : Meridian 73 Jim Alison 24-Dec-19 01:09
Re: Remen : Meridian 49 drew 27-Dec-19 23:06
Re: Remen : Meridian 57 DavidK 27-Dec-19 23:59
Re: Remen : Meridian 53 drew 28-Dec-19 22:24
Re: Remen : Meridian 96 DavidK 29-Dec-19 00:50
Re: Remen : Meridian 54 Jim Alison 11-Jan-20 03:53
Re: Remen : Meridian 49 DavidK 11-Jan-20 13:54
The Egyptian Remen 14.58333r inches 58 DavidK 11-Jan-20 16:48
Re: Remen : Meridian 41 Jim Alison 22-Jan-20 00:10
Re: Remen : Meridian 35 Mercurial 22-Jan-20 20:59
say hello to rodz? 58 DavidK 11-Jan-20 18:01
Re: say hello to rodz? 42 thinkitover 12-Jan-20 06:03
Re: say hello to rodz? 49 DavidK 12-Jan-20 12:45
Re: say hello to rodz? 47 thinkitover 13-Jan-20 06:41

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