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Jim

OK let me explain

I took the quote out of context so my comment in not relevant but the misleading part is this.

20.62 and 0.729 do not go together because 20.62 only factorises as 2 x 1031 and this is very clumsy and inelegant.

0.729 as I say is 3x3x3x3x3x3/1000 and this is beautifully balanced so just multiply by 2x2x2x2 to get the Roman foot.

Multiply by 2x2x5 to get the Remen of 14.58 imperial inches. the imperial inch is the unit that holds everything together.

Now the cubit is then 14.58 x 140/99 and this version of root 2 is the 5 and 1/2 sekhed x 10/9 again very elegant.

The key rule we should all be aware of is that the square 9 becomes the circle 10 when pi is 22/7. This rule has to be followed. So 360 becomes 400 and the square 360 and circle 400 are the wrong way round if you get my meaning here.

Berriman (long after Griffith) suggests that they used 99/70 and 140/99 as root 2 both versions being root 7 and 11 as is the 5 and 1/2 sekhed and it is important to stay within this Egyptian framework.


When you say no point in expanding the decimals you are missing another rule in that all the numbers are fractions they did not do decimal points.

So the cubit is 14/11 x 10/9 x (3x3x3x3x3x3)/1000 x 20 = 2041200/99000 ( 20.625 is 9900/480) They are designed to work together.

This is a very different cubit to 20.62, one that complies with all the rules and is incredibly elegant and highlights the base 99 construction of this cubit discovered by John Neal and Michell.

It is 20.618181818r and this notation is very poor once the design is drilled into.

There is no room for error in these designs and talking about a number almost being another one is just plain wrong because 9801/9800 is hidden between the two versions of root 2 and is MC's Mr Dial's signature. Have you seen his Phos calc?

Once you know it is there deliberately, everything you thought you knew about the AE changes.

The correct cubit to use with 0.729 is

0.729 x 28.282828282828r = 20.618181818r

28.282828282828 is 20 root 2 being 1.414141414r

So Griffith was absolutely wrong numerically but theoretically correct.

20.62 / 0.729 = nearly 20 root 2 = 28.28532236 but this has to be converted to a fraction using base 7 and 11

To get 20.625 use the methodology above but use 0.729 x 4375/4374 as the digit.Yet more Dial magic.

4374 is 2 x 3 to the power 7

4375 is 5 to the power 4 x 7.

We have to chisel our way through the numbers to understand what was going on.

I hope you don't think I am being rude or critical because i am not. I misunderstood your article because I skim read it. the fact is there are not many who would understand these subtle numerical distinctions but you MC Thinkitover and Jim W certainly do.

I think we all have a duty of care with our findings and should work together because alone we will never get to the bottom of these fabulous systems.

I am promoting Berriman as a point of reference for Metrologists but only looking at units of length. Obviously he has his sources such as Greaves and I would imagine Petrie. So using his work is a very powerful reference tool.

Petrie suggested 20.611 for his cubit and since 10/9 is 1.11111r logically 20.611111r is the relevant cubit length.

20.6111r x 160/159 = 20.740740r the cubit that holds for his second determination.

These values are elegant and in compliance with Berriman's rules. That is all I need to say about them, other than 20.740740740r / 1.4141414141 = 14.666r my eclipse cubit( Discovered at Stonehenge by using the work of Thom).


cheers

Dave



Edited 4 time(s). Last edit at 22-Dec-19 10:56 by DavidK.

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Remen : Meridian 1953 Jim Alison 15-Nov-19 22:52
DUNE!: Remen : Meridian 151 Poster Boy 16-Nov-19 17:55
Re: DUNE!: Remen : Meridian 137 DUNE 17-Nov-19 09:56
Re: DUNE!: Remen : Meridian 111 Jim Alison 17-Nov-19 23:45
Re: DUNE!: Remen : Meridian 108 Poster Boy 17-Nov-19 23:59
Found it! 142 Poster Boy 18-Nov-19 02:55
Re: Found it! 110 Mercurial 20-Nov-19 11:44
Re: Found it! 95 Jim Alison 20-Nov-19 14:42
Squaring The Circle 110 Dr. Troglodyte 20-Nov-19 18:59
Re: Squaring The Circle 109 Jim Alison 20-Nov-19 20:02
Re: Squaring The Circle 108 Jim Alison 20-Nov-19 20:22
Remen references 119 Lee McGiffen 21-Nov-19 01:59
Re: Remen references 122 Jim Alison 21-Nov-19 04:29
Re: Remen references 91 magisterchessmutt 24-Nov-19 13:56
Re: Remen references 71 Jim Alison 24-Nov-19 20:05
Re: Remen references 88 magisterchessmutt 24-Nov-19 21:17
Re: Remen references 75 magisterchessmutt 25-Nov-19 01:24
Re: Remen references 76 magisterchessmutt 25-Nov-19 12:10
Re: Remen references 102 DUNE 25-Nov-19 13:17
Re: Remen references 46 Jim Alison 16-Jan-20 20:22
Drastic Geodetic Measures and Nippur Cubit 88 thinkitover 25-Nov-19 06:46
Re: Remen references 92 Jim Alison 26-Nov-19 08:04
Re: Remen references 99 Lee McGiffen 27-Nov-19 12:54
Re: Remen references 79 Mercurial 28-Nov-19 22:32
Re: Remen references 104 Jim Alison 01-Dec-19 06:15
Re: Squaring The Circle 122 magisterchessmutt 21-Nov-19 00:47
Re: Squaring The Circle 84 magisterchessmutt 21-Nov-19 02:32
Re: Squaring The Circle 88 Jim Alison 21-Nov-19 05:20
Re: Squaring The Circle 131 magisterchessmutt 21-Nov-19 06:26
Egyptian knowledge of √2 89 Lee McGiffen 22-Nov-19 06:39
Re: Egyptian knowledge of √2 73 magisterchessmutt 23-Nov-19 01:19
Re: Egyptian knowledge of √2 97 thinkitover 23-Nov-19 09:45
Re: Egyptian knowledge of √2 78 magisterchessmutt 23-Nov-19 14:42
Re: Egyptian knowledge of √2 73 Poster Boy 23-Nov-19 16:10
Everything Mick wrote here - 86 pages 84 geoffss 21-Nov-19 10:49
Re: Everything Mick wrote here - 86 pages 79 magisterchessmutt 21-Nov-19 11:54
Re: Squaring The Circle 45 molder 20-Dec-19 12:45
Re: Found it! 93 Mercurial 22-Nov-19 06:48
Re: Found it! 88 magisterchessmutt 22-Nov-19 12:01
Re: Found it! 84 Poster Boy 22-Nov-19 15:24
Re: Found it! 88 magisterchessmutt 22-Nov-19 23:55
Re: Found it! 77 Poster Boy 23-Nov-19 02:06
Re: Found it! 77 magisterchessmutt 23-Nov-19 02:36
Re: Found it! 76 Poster Boy 23-Nov-19 03:37
Re: Found it! 84 DUNE 23-Nov-19 18:42
Re: Found it! 71 Poster Boy 23-Nov-19 19:37
Re: Found it! 81 DUNE 23-Nov-19 20:14
Re: Found it! 72 Poster Boy 23-Nov-19 20:27
Re: Found it! 72 Poster Boy 23-Nov-19 20:46
Re: Found it! 78 DUNE 23-Nov-19 21:37
Re: Found it! 76 Poster Boy 23-Nov-19 21:55
Re: Found it! 80 DUNE 23-Nov-19 22:24
Re: Found it! 72 Poster Boy 23-Nov-19 22:44
Re: Found it! 105 Poster Boy 24-Nov-19 17:44
Re: Found it! 77 DUNE 24-Nov-19 18:29
Re: Found it! 79 Poster Boy 24-Nov-19 18:34
Re: Found it! 77 Poster Boy 23-Nov-19 20:59
Re: Found it! 73 magisterchessmutt 23-Nov-19 19:55
Totally debunked 78 Lee McGiffen 24-Nov-19 05:23
NOT Totally debunked 73 Poster Boy 24-Nov-19 05:41
eg: NOT Totally debunked 86 Poster Boy 24-Nov-19 06:12
Khufu <> Khafre 93 Dr. Troglodyte 23-Nov-19 00:28
Re: Khufu <> Khafre 69 Mercurial 24-Nov-19 19:12
Khufu <> Khafre - Update 33 Dr. Troglodyte 11-Jan-20 19:56
Re: Found it! 92 Jim Alison 23-Nov-19 01:35
Re: DUNE!: Remen : Meridian 92 magisterchessmutt 19-Nov-19 03:45
Re: DUNE!: Remen : Meridian 82 Jim Alison 19-Nov-19 14:05
Re: DUNE!: Remen : Meridian 88 magisterchessmutt 20-Nov-19 00:27
Re: DUNE!: Remen : Meridian 80 Jim Alison 20-Nov-19 15:34
Re: DUNE!: Remen : Meridian 78 magisterchessmutt 19-Nov-19 03:49
Re: DUNE!: Remen : Meridian 84 DUNE 19-Nov-19 10:37
Re: DUNE!: Remen : Meridian 78 Jim Alison 19-Nov-19 14:22
Re: DUNE!: Remen : Meridian 79 DUNE 19-Nov-19 15:37
Re: DUNE!: Remen : Meridian 75 Jim Alison 20-Nov-19 00:44
Re: DUNE!: Remen : Meridian 92 Poster Boy 19-Nov-19 16:43
Re: DUNE!: Remen : Meridian 79 Jim Alison 20-Nov-19 01:07
Re: DUNE!: Remen : Meridian 95 Poster Boy 20-Nov-19 01:38
Re: DUNE!: Remen : Meridian 80 Jim Alison 20-Nov-19 14:28
Where is this leading? 86 Poster Boy 21-Nov-19 17:19
Re: Where is this leading? 86 Lee McGiffen 22-Nov-19 06:49
Re: Remen : Meridian 100 Poster Boy 16-Nov-19 18:00
Re: Remen : Meridian 98 Jim Alison 16-Nov-19 22:09
Excellent! 103 thinkitover 16-Nov-19 18:29
Re: Excellent! 131 Jim Alison 16-Nov-19 22:24
Re: Excellent! 103 Lee McGiffen 18-Nov-19 07:36
Re: Excellent! 105 Jim Alison 18-Nov-19 15:55
Re: Excellent! 101 magisterchessmutt 19-Nov-19 03:57
Re: Remen : Meridian 93 Spiros 20-Nov-19 15:06
Re: Remen : Meridian 83 Spiros 20-Nov-19 19:28
Re: Remen : Meridian 83 Jim Alison 20-Nov-19 20:24
Re: Remen : Meridian 75 Spiros 20-Nov-19 22:25
Re: Remen : Meridian 98 Spiros 20-Nov-19 22:58
Re: Remen : Meridian 82 Spiros 20-Nov-19 23:49
Re: Remen : Meridian 91 Jim Alison 20-Nov-19 23:40
The Earth number 139 hendrik dirker 21-Nov-19 05:48
Re: The Earth number 118 Jim Alison 21-Nov-19 13:15
Re: The Earth number 98 molder 22-Nov-19 19:30
Re: The Earth number 80 Jim Alison 23-Nov-19 01:44
Geometry as Metrology? 99 thinkitover 23-Nov-19 22:56
Re: Geometry as Metrology? 89 magisterchessmutt 24-Nov-19 00:04
Re: Geometry as Metrology? 94 Jim Alison 24-Nov-19 01:16
Re: Geometry as Metrology? 99 magisterchessmutt 24-Nov-19 01:36
Re: Geometry as Metrology? 123 magisterchessmutt 24-Nov-19 01:49
Re: Remen : Meridian 126 magisterchessmutt 24-Nov-19 02:38
Re: Remen : Meridian 88 DavidK 11-Dec-19 23:26
Re: Remen : Meridian 74 DavidK 12-Dec-19 13:23
Re: Remen : Meridian 65 thinkitover 12-Dec-19 18:51
Re: Remen : Meridian 75 DavidK 12-Dec-19 21:27
Re: Remen : Meridian 56 Jiri Mruzek 13-Dec-19 00:55
Re: Remen : Meridian 54 DavidK 13-Dec-19 09:51
Re: Remen : Meridian 57 Jim Alison 13-Dec-19 03:48
Re: Remen : Meridian 56 magisterchessmutt 13-Dec-19 04:58
Re: Remen : Meridian 56 magisterchessmutt 13-Dec-19 05:44
Re: Remen : Meridian 58 DavidK 13-Dec-19 09:58
Re: Remen : Meridian 57 DavidK 13-Dec-19 09:15
Re: Remen : Meridian 50 magisterchessmutt 13-Dec-19 11:02
Re: Remen : Meridian 69 DavidK 13-Dec-19 11:07
Re: Earth circumference 76 drew 17-Dec-19 23:57
Re: Earth circumference 77 DavidK 18-Dec-19 11:29
Re: Earth circumference 82 drew 20-Dec-19 00:22
Re: Earth circumference 67 hendrik dirker 20-Dec-19 06:07
Re: Earth circumference 66 DavidK 20-Dec-19 13:27
Re: Earth circumference 48 hendrik dirker 21-Dec-19 12:48
Re: Earth circumference 59 Jim Alison 20-Dec-19 20:48
Re: Earth circumference 55 hendrik dirker 21-Dec-19 11:44
Re: Earth circumference 51 drew 20-Dec-19 23:48
Re: Remen : Meridian 56 Jim Alison 20-Dec-19 19:26
Re: Remen : Meridian 58 magisterchessmutt 21-Dec-19 01:54
Re: Remen : Meridian 55 Jim Alison 21-Dec-19 04:30
Re: Remen : Meridian 46 magisterchessmutt 21-Dec-19 07:43
Re: Remen : Meridian 50 DavidK 21-Dec-19 10:56
Re: Remen : Meridian 55 magisterchessmutt 21-Dec-19 11:24
Re: Remen : Meridian 49 magisterchessmutt 21-Dec-19 11:48
Re: Remen : Meridian 43 DavidK 21-Dec-19 16:08
Re: Remen : Meridian 65 DavidK 21-Dec-19 12:49
Re: Remen : Meridian 50 Jim Alison 21-Dec-19 15:19
Re: Remen : Meridian 47 molder 21-Dec-19 20:33
Re: Remen : Meridian 44 DavidK 21-Dec-19 23:49
Re: Remen : Meridian 49 Jim Alison 22-Dec-19 03:02
Re: Remen : Meridian 51 DavidK 22-Dec-19 10:30
Re: Roman measures Hang on let us get this right. 51 molder 22-Dec-19 13:03
Re: Roman measures Hang on let us get this right. 47 DavidK 22-Dec-19 15:01
Re: Roman measures Hang on let us get this right. 60 magisterchessmutt 22-Dec-19 17:13
Re: Roman measures Hang on let us get this right. 62 DavidK 22-Dec-19 17:32
Re: Roman measures Hang on let us get this right. 56 Jim Alison 24-Dec-19 05:23
Stecchini's Metrics 54 thinkitover 21-Dec-19 16:01
Re: Stecchini's Metrics 61 magisterchessmutt 21-Dec-19 17:17
Re: Stecchini's Metrics 54 thinkitover 24-Dec-19 15:06
Re: Remen : Meridian 55 drew 23-Dec-19 00:44
Re: Remen : Meridian 54 Jim Alison 23-Dec-19 02:55
Re: Remen : Meridian 64 DavidK 23-Dec-19 12:34
Re: Remen : Meridian 70 Jim Alison 24-Dec-19 01:09
Re: Remen : Meridian 45 drew 27-Dec-19 23:06
Re: Remen : Meridian 54 DavidK 27-Dec-19 23:59
Re: Remen : Meridian 50 drew 28-Dec-19 22:24
Re: Remen : Meridian 87 DavidK 29-Dec-19 00:50
Re: Remen : Meridian 51 Jim Alison 11-Jan-20 03:53
Re: Remen : Meridian 46 DavidK 11-Jan-20 13:54
The Egyptian Remen 14.58333r inches 55 DavidK 11-Jan-20 16:48
Re: Remen : Meridian 38 Jim Alison 22-Jan-20 00:10
Re: Remen : Meridian 26 Mercurial 22-Jan-20 20:59
say hello to rodz? 54 DavidK 11-Jan-20 18:01
Re: say hello to rodz? 40 thinkitover 12-Jan-20 06:03
Re: say hello to rodz? 46 DavidK 12-Jan-20 12:45
Re: say hello to rodz? 45 thinkitover 13-Jan-20 06:41


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