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This coincidence of results from three probable hypotheses, two of which are absolutely
independent of each other, shows that the assumptions are correct: -
(1) That the standard digit is to be fixed at .729 inch when the cubit is at 20.62 inches.
(2) That the remen of the cubit rods is to be fixed at 20 of the real digits, or at 14.58 inches.
(3) That the half arura is named remen owing to its being a square of 100 remen of the cubit
rods (while the arura itself is a square of 100 cubits).


(1) is not correct based on our discussions and the error is very signifiacnt and it is mixing up Petrie's findings with Berriman's so it is very misleading.

That the standard digit is to be fixed at 0.729 ( this is 3x3x3x3x3x3/1000) I think you should mention this.

Berriman did not do this calculation, i did it using his findings and it is mega significant.

0.729 x 20 = 14.58 x 140 / 99 = 20.61818181818r imperial inches being Neal's Royal cubit x 1760 =36288.

The reason this is so important is because this is what Neal says in Opus 2. Basically he says the ancients did not use root 2 and dumps Berriman.

20.62 - 20.61818r = 0.00181818r meaning the two units are in the ratio 11341 to 11340 so this explains the difference between Petrie's cubit and Neal's and also refute's Neal's claims about root 2.

I have looked at what the problems are with modern metrology and this one is huge. Petrie is 11341 and Neal is 11340 and his unit is reconciled to Berriman's methodology.All 3 are correct but some are more correct than others.No clues for guessing!!

So you should change the cubit value to 20.618181r to avoid any confusion and retain consistency with Neal and Berriman. You will have to explain where 140/99 comes from.

So the two Royal cubit values are

0.729 x 20 x 140/99 = 20.6181818r

0.7291666r x 20 x 99/70 = 20.625 (0.7291666r is 315/432 or 630/864 or 945 / 1296)


The two meter values are cubits x 1.90909090r so 39.66 and 39.375.

Also 1 degree is 40000000/360 metres and this should be altered because you know this is the better option

The arura proposal will only work if you add 14.58333r and 14.58 together and divide by 2 the x 100 and square

The cubit used in the calc will also have to be [(20.625 + 20.618181r) / 2 x 100] and square

I have checked the calc and it works.

The reason is that squaring the two cubits in isolation means that root 2 actual is not realised so they need to be added and then averaged to get real root 2.

In terms of circumferences you will be working with 40000000 x 39.375 and also 40000000 x 39.366 and this will impact on your current analysis

It means you will be working with a mean metre of 39.3705 so close to the French one it is virtually identical.

Obviously you don't have to do anything it is your call but MC uses 39.375 and Jim Wakefield uses 20.625 and consistency is the best way forward.

20.625/39.375 is the Royal cubit in metres

cheers

D

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Subject Views Written By Posted
Remen : Meridian 1956 Jim Alison 15-Nov-19 22:52
DUNE!: Remen : Meridian 152 Poster Boy 16-Nov-19 17:55
Re: DUNE!: Remen : Meridian 138 DUNE 17-Nov-19 09:56
Re: DUNE!: Remen : Meridian 113 Jim Alison 17-Nov-19 23:45
Re: DUNE!: Remen : Meridian 109 Poster Boy 17-Nov-19 23:59
Found it! 144 Poster Boy 18-Nov-19 02:55
Re: Found it! 112 Mercurial 20-Nov-19 11:44
Re: Found it! 98 Jim Alison 20-Nov-19 14:42
Squaring The Circle 113 Dr. Troglodyte 20-Nov-19 18:59
Re: Squaring The Circle 111 Jim Alison 20-Nov-19 20:02
Re: Squaring The Circle 110 Jim Alison 20-Nov-19 20:22
Remen references 120 Lee McGiffen 21-Nov-19 01:59
Re: Remen references 123 Jim Alison 21-Nov-19 04:29
Re: Remen references 94 magisterchessmutt 24-Nov-19 13:56
Re: Remen references 73 Jim Alison 24-Nov-19 20:05
Re: Remen references 89 magisterchessmutt 24-Nov-19 21:17
Re: Remen references 76 magisterchessmutt 25-Nov-19 01:24
Re: Remen references 77 magisterchessmutt 25-Nov-19 12:10
Re: Remen references 103 DUNE 25-Nov-19 13:17
Re: Remen references 48 Jim Alison 16-Jan-20 20:22
Drastic Geodetic Measures and Nippur Cubit 91 thinkitover 25-Nov-19 06:46
Re: Remen references 94 Jim Alison 26-Nov-19 08:04
Re: Remen references 102 Lee McGiffen 27-Nov-19 12:54
Re: Remen references 81 Mercurial 28-Nov-19 22:32
Re: Remen references 107 Jim Alison 01-Dec-19 06:15
Re: Squaring The Circle 125 magisterchessmutt 21-Nov-19 00:47
Re: Squaring The Circle 86 magisterchessmutt 21-Nov-19 02:32
Re: Squaring The Circle 89 Jim Alison 21-Nov-19 05:20
Re: Squaring The Circle 133 magisterchessmutt 21-Nov-19 06:26
Egyptian knowledge of √2 90 Lee McGiffen 22-Nov-19 06:39
Re: Egyptian knowledge of √2 75 magisterchessmutt 23-Nov-19 01:19
Re: Egyptian knowledge of √2 99 thinkitover 23-Nov-19 09:45
Re: Egyptian knowledge of √2 80 magisterchessmutt 23-Nov-19 14:42
Re: Egyptian knowledge of √2 75 Poster Boy 23-Nov-19 16:10
Everything Mick wrote here - 86 pages 87 geoffss 21-Nov-19 10:49
Re: Everything Mick wrote here - 86 pages 81 magisterchessmutt 21-Nov-19 11:54
Re: Squaring The Circle 47 molder 20-Dec-19 12:45
Re: Found it! 94 Mercurial 22-Nov-19 06:48
Re: Found it! 90 magisterchessmutt 22-Nov-19 12:01
Re: Found it! 85 Poster Boy 22-Nov-19 15:24
Re: Found it! 92 magisterchessmutt 22-Nov-19 23:55
Re: Found it! 78 Poster Boy 23-Nov-19 02:06
Re: Found it! 78 magisterchessmutt 23-Nov-19 02:36
Re: Found it! 77 Poster Boy 23-Nov-19 03:37
Re: Found it! 85 DUNE 23-Nov-19 18:42
Re: Found it! 72 Poster Boy 23-Nov-19 19:37
Re: Found it! 82 DUNE 23-Nov-19 20:14
Re: Found it! 73 Poster Boy 23-Nov-19 20:27
Re: Found it! 74 Poster Boy 23-Nov-19 20:46
Re: Found it! 79 DUNE 23-Nov-19 21:37
Re: Found it! 77 Poster Boy 23-Nov-19 21:55
Re: Found it! 81 DUNE 23-Nov-19 22:24
Re: Found it! 74 Poster Boy 23-Nov-19 22:44
Re: Found it! 107 Poster Boy 24-Nov-19 17:44
Re: Found it! 78 DUNE 24-Nov-19 18:29
Re: Found it! 81 Poster Boy 24-Nov-19 18:34
Re: Found it! 78 Poster Boy 23-Nov-19 20:59
Re: Found it! 74 magisterchessmutt 23-Nov-19 19:55
Totally debunked 79 Lee McGiffen 24-Nov-19 05:23
NOT Totally debunked 74 Poster Boy 24-Nov-19 05:41
eg: NOT Totally debunked 87 Poster Boy 24-Nov-19 06:12
Khufu <> Khafre 94 Dr. Troglodyte 23-Nov-19 00:28
Re: Khufu <> Khafre 71 Mercurial 24-Nov-19 19:12
Khufu <> Khafre - Update 34 Dr. Troglodyte 11-Jan-20 19:56
Re: Found it! 94 Jim Alison 23-Nov-19 01:35
Re: DUNE!: Remen : Meridian 93 magisterchessmutt 19-Nov-19 03:45
Re: DUNE!: Remen : Meridian 83 Jim Alison 19-Nov-19 14:05
Re: DUNE!: Remen : Meridian 89 magisterchessmutt 20-Nov-19 00:27
Re: DUNE!: Remen : Meridian 82 Jim Alison 20-Nov-19 15:34
Re: DUNE!: Remen : Meridian 80 magisterchessmutt 19-Nov-19 03:49
Re: DUNE!: Remen : Meridian 85 DUNE 19-Nov-19 10:37
Re: DUNE!: Remen : Meridian 79 Jim Alison 19-Nov-19 14:22
Re: DUNE!: Remen : Meridian 80 DUNE 19-Nov-19 15:37
Re: DUNE!: Remen : Meridian 76 Jim Alison 20-Nov-19 00:44
Re: DUNE!: Remen : Meridian 93 Poster Boy 19-Nov-19 16:43
Re: DUNE!: Remen : Meridian 80 Jim Alison 20-Nov-19 01:07
Re: DUNE!: Remen : Meridian 96 Poster Boy 20-Nov-19 01:38
Re: DUNE!: Remen : Meridian 81 Jim Alison 20-Nov-19 14:28
Where is this leading? 87 Poster Boy 21-Nov-19 17:19
Re: Where is this leading? 87 Lee McGiffen 22-Nov-19 06:49
Re: Remen : Meridian 102 Poster Boy 16-Nov-19 18:00
Re: Remen : Meridian 99 Jim Alison 16-Nov-19 22:09
Excellent! 105 thinkitover 16-Nov-19 18:29
Re: Excellent! 132 Jim Alison 16-Nov-19 22:24
Re: Excellent! 104 Lee McGiffen 18-Nov-19 07:36
Re: Excellent! 107 Jim Alison 18-Nov-19 15:55
Re: Excellent! 102 magisterchessmutt 19-Nov-19 03:57
Re: Remen : Meridian 94 Spiros 20-Nov-19 15:06
Re: Remen : Meridian 85 Spiros 20-Nov-19 19:28
Re: Remen : Meridian 85 Jim Alison 20-Nov-19 20:24
Re: Remen : Meridian 76 Spiros 20-Nov-19 22:25
Re: Remen : Meridian 100 Spiros 20-Nov-19 22:58
Re: Remen : Meridian 84 Spiros 20-Nov-19 23:49
Re: Remen : Meridian 92 Jim Alison 20-Nov-19 23:40
The Earth number 140 hendrik dirker 21-Nov-19 05:48
Re: The Earth number 120 Jim Alison 21-Nov-19 13:15
Re: The Earth number 100 molder 22-Nov-19 19:30
Re: The Earth number 82 Jim Alison 23-Nov-19 01:44
Geometry as Metrology? 100 thinkitover 23-Nov-19 22:56
Re: Geometry as Metrology? 90 magisterchessmutt 24-Nov-19 00:04
Re: Geometry as Metrology? 95 Jim Alison 24-Nov-19 01:16
Re: Geometry as Metrology? 100 magisterchessmutt 24-Nov-19 01:36
Re: Geometry as Metrology? 125 magisterchessmutt 24-Nov-19 01:49
Re: Remen : Meridian 127 magisterchessmutt 24-Nov-19 02:38
Re: Remen : Meridian 89 DavidK 11-Dec-19 23:26
Re: Remen : Meridian 75 DavidK 12-Dec-19 13:23
Re: Remen : Meridian 66 thinkitover 12-Dec-19 18:51
Re: Remen : Meridian 77 DavidK 12-Dec-19 21:27
Re: Remen : Meridian 57 Jiri Mruzek 13-Dec-19 00:55
Re: Remen : Meridian 55 DavidK 13-Dec-19 09:51
Re: Remen : Meridian 58 Jim Alison 13-Dec-19 03:48
Re: Remen : Meridian 58 magisterchessmutt 13-Dec-19 04:58
Re: Remen : Meridian 57 magisterchessmutt 13-Dec-19 05:44
Re: Remen : Meridian 59 DavidK 13-Dec-19 09:58
Re: Remen : Meridian 58 DavidK 13-Dec-19 09:15
Re: Remen : Meridian 52 magisterchessmutt 13-Dec-19 11:02
Re: Remen : Meridian 70 DavidK 13-Dec-19 11:07
Re: Earth circumference 77 drew 17-Dec-19 23:57
Re: Earth circumference 79 DavidK 18-Dec-19 11:29
Re: Earth circumference 83 drew 20-Dec-19 00:22
Re: Earth circumference 68 hendrik dirker 20-Dec-19 06:07
Re: Earth circumference 67 DavidK 20-Dec-19 13:27
Re: Earth circumference 50 hendrik dirker 21-Dec-19 12:48
Re: Earth circumference 60 Jim Alison 20-Dec-19 20:48
Re: Earth circumference 56 hendrik dirker 21-Dec-19 11:44
Re: Earth circumference 52 drew 20-Dec-19 23:48
Re: Remen : Meridian 58 Jim Alison 20-Dec-19 19:26
Re: Remen : Meridian 60 magisterchessmutt 21-Dec-19 01:54
Re: Remen : Meridian 57 Jim Alison 21-Dec-19 04:30
Re: Remen : Meridian 47 magisterchessmutt 21-Dec-19 07:43
Re: Remen : Meridian 51 DavidK 21-Dec-19 10:56
Re: Remen : Meridian 56 magisterchessmutt 21-Dec-19 11:24
Re: Remen : Meridian 51 magisterchessmutt 21-Dec-19 11:48
Re: Remen : Meridian 44 DavidK 21-Dec-19 16:08
Re: Remen : Meridian 66 DavidK 21-Dec-19 12:49
Re: Remen : Meridian 52 Jim Alison 21-Dec-19 15:19
Re: Remen : Meridian 48 molder 21-Dec-19 20:33
Re: Remen : Meridian 46 DavidK 21-Dec-19 23:49
Re: Remen : Meridian 50 Jim Alison 22-Dec-19 03:02
Re: Remen : Meridian 53 DavidK 22-Dec-19 10:30
Re: Roman measures Hang on let us get this right. 52 molder 22-Dec-19 13:03
Re: Roman measures Hang on let us get this right. 49 DavidK 22-Dec-19 15:01
Re: Roman measures Hang on let us get this right. 61 magisterchessmutt 22-Dec-19 17:13
Re: Roman measures Hang on let us get this right. 63 DavidK 22-Dec-19 17:32
Re: Roman measures Hang on let us get this right. 57 Jim Alison 24-Dec-19 05:23
Stecchini's Metrics 55 thinkitover 21-Dec-19 16:01
Re: Stecchini's Metrics 62 magisterchessmutt 21-Dec-19 17:17
Re: Stecchini's Metrics 55 thinkitover 24-Dec-19 15:06
Re: Remen : Meridian 56 drew 23-Dec-19 00:44
Re: Remen : Meridian 55 Jim Alison 23-Dec-19 02:55
Re: Remen : Meridian 65 DavidK 23-Dec-19 12:34
Re: Remen : Meridian 71 Jim Alison 24-Dec-19 01:09
Re: Remen : Meridian 47 drew 27-Dec-19 23:06
Re: Remen : Meridian 55 DavidK 27-Dec-19 23:59
Re: Remen : Meridian 51 drew 28-Dec-19 22:24
Re: Remen : Meridian 89 DavidK 29-Dec-19 00:50
Re: Remen : Meridian 52 Jim Alison 11-Jan-20 03:53
Re: Remen : Meridian 47 DavidK 11-Jan-20 13:54
The Egyptian Remen 14.58333r inches 57 DavidK 11-Jan-20 16:48
Re: Remen : Meridian 39 Jim Alison 22-Jan-20 00:10
Re: Remen : Meridian 28 Mercurial 22-Jan-20 20:59
say hello to rodz? 56 DavidK 11-Jan-20 18:01
Re: say hello to rodz? 41 thinkitover 12-Jan-20 06:03
Re: say hello to rodz? 47 DavidK 12-Jan-20 12:45
Re: say hello to rodz? 46 thinkitover 13-Jan-20 06:41


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