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This coincidence of results from three probable hypotheses, two of which are absolutely
independent of each other, shows that the assumptions are correct: -
(1) That the standard digit is to be fixed at .729 inch when the cubit is at 20.62 inches.
(2) That the remen of the cubit rods is to be fixed at 20 of the real digits, or at 14.58 inches.
(3) That the half arura is named remen owing to its being a square of 100 remen of the cubit
rods (while the arura itself is a square of 100 cubits).

(1) is not correct based on our discussions and the error is very signifiacnt and it is mixing up Petrie's findings with Berriman's so it is very misleading.

That the standard digit is to be fixed at 0.729 ( this is 3x3x3x3x3x3/1000) I think you should mention this.

Berriman did not do this calculation, i did it using his findings and it is mega significant.

0.729 x 20 = 14.58 x 140 / 99 = 20.61818181818r imperial inches being Neal's Royal cubit x 1760 =36288.

The reason this is so important is because this is what Neal says in Opus 2. Basically he says the ancients did not use root 2 and dumps Berriman.

20.62 - 20.61818r = 0.00181818r meaning the two units are in the ratio 11341 to 11340 so this explains the difference between Petrie's cubit and Neal's and also refute's Neal's claims about root 2.

I have looked at what the problems are with modern metrology and this one is huge. Petrie is 11341 and Neal is 11340 and his unit is reconciled to Berriman's methodology.All 3 are correct but some are more correct than others.No clues for guessing!!

So you should change the cubit value to 20.618181r to avoid any confusion and retain consistency with Neal and Berriman. You will have to explain where 140/99 comes from.

So the two Royal cubit values are

0.729 x 20 x 140/99 = 20.6181818r

0.7291666r x 20 x 99/70 = 20.625 (0.7291666r is 315/432 or 630/864 or 945 / 1296)

The two meter values are cubits x 1.90909090r so 39.66 and 39.375.

Also 1 degree is 40000000/360 metres and this should be altered because you know this is the better option

The arura proposal will only work if you add 14.58333r and 14.58 together and divide by 2 the x 100 and square

The cubit used in the calc will also have to be [(20.625 + 20.618181r) / 2 x 100] and square

I have checked the calc and it works.

The reason is that squaring the two cubits in isolation means that root 2 actual is not realised so they need to be added and then averaged to get real root 2.

In terms of circumferences you will be working with 40000000 x 39.375 and also 40000000 x 39.366 and this will impact on your current analysis

It means you will be working with a mean metre of 39.3705 so close to the French one it is virtually identical.

Obviously you don't have to do anything it is your call but MC uses 39.375 and Jim Wakefield uses 20.625 and consistency is the best way forward.

20.625/39.375 is the Royal cubit in metres

cheers

D

Subject Views Written By Posted
Remen : Meridian 2673 Jim Alison 15-Nov-19 22:52
DUNE!: Remen : Meridian 339 PB Bytes 16-Nov-19 17:55
Re: DUNE!: Remen : Meridian 328 DUNE 17-Nov-19 09:56
Re: DUNE!: Remen : Meridian 307 Jim Alison 17-Nov-19 23:45
Re: DUNE!: Remen : Meridian 307 PB Bytes 17-Nov-19 23:59
Found it! 346 PB Bytes 18-Nov-19 02:55
Re: Found it! 305 Mercurial 20-Nov-19 11:44
Re: Found it! 288 Jim Alison 20-Nov-19 14:42
Squaring The Circle 317 Dr. Troglodyte 20-Nov-19 18:59
Re: Squaring The Circle 311 Jim Alison 20-Nov-19 20:02
Re: Squaring The Circle 302 Jim Alison 20-Nov-19 20:22
Remen references 325 Lee McGiffen 21-Nov-19 01:59
Re: Remen references 326 Jim Alison 21-Nov-19 04:29
Re: Remen references 294 magisterchessmutt 24-Nov-19 13:56
Re: Remen references 263 Jim Alison 24-Nov-19 20:05
Re: Remen references 290 magisterchessmutt 24-Nov-19 21:17
Re: Remen references 272 magisterchessmutt 25-Nov-19 01:24
Re: Remen references 259 magisterchessmutt 25-Nov-19 12:10
Re: Remen references 314 DUNE 25-Nov-19 13:17
Re: Remen references 225 Jim Alison 16-Jan-20 20:22
Drastic Geodetic Measures and Nippur Cubit 309 thinkitover 25-Nov-19 06:46
Re: Remen references 292 Jim Alison 26-Nov-19 08:04
Re: Remen references 326 Lee McGiffen 27-Nov-19 12:54
Re: Remen references 274 Mercurial 28-Nov-19 22:32
Re: Remen references 340 Jim Alison 01-Dec-19 06:15
Re: Squaring The Circle 337 magisterchessmutt 21-Nov-19 00:47
Re: Squaring The Circle 282 magisterchessmutt 21-Nov-19 02:32
Re: Squaring The Circle 273 Jim Alison 21-Nov-19 05:20
Re: Squaring The Circle 351 magisterchessmutt 21-Nov-19 06:26
Egyptian knowledge of âˆš2 274 Lee McGiffen 22-Nov-19 06:39
Re: Egyptian knowledge of âˆš2 246 magisterchessmutt 23-Nov-19 01:19
Re: Egyptian knowledge of âˆš2 299 thinkitover 23-Nov-19 09:45
Re: Egyptian knowledge of âˆš2 263 magisterchessmutt 23-Nov-19 14:42
Re: Egyptian knowledge of âˆš2 257 PB Bytes 23-Nov-19 16:10
Everything Mick wrote here - 86 pages 283 geoffss 21-Nov-19 10:49
Re: Everything Mick wrote here - 86 pages 273 magisterchessmutt 21-Nov-19 11:54
Re: Squaring The Circle 237 molder 20-Dec-19 12:45
Re: Found it! 310 Mercurial 22-Nov-19 06:48
Re: Found it! 273 magisterchessmutt 22-Nov-19 12:01
Re: Found it! 267 PB Bytes 22-Nov-19 15:24
Re: Found it! 308 magisterchessmutt 22-Nov-19 23:55
Re: Found it! 267 PB Bytes 23-Nov-19 02:06
Re: Found it! 260 magisterchessmutt 23-Nov-19 02:36
Re: Found it! 255 PB Bytes 23-Nov-19 03:37
Re: Found it! 266 DUNE 23-Nov-19 18:42
Re: Found it! 248 PB Bytes 23-Nov-19 19:37
Re: Found it! 267 DUNE 23-Nov-19 20:14
Re: Found it! 255 PB Bytes 23-Nov-19 20:27
Re: Found it! 252 PB Bytes 23-Nov-19 20:46
Re: Found it! 256 DUNE 23-Nov-19 21:37
Re: Found it! 259 PB Bytes 23-Nov-19 21:55
Re: Found it! 262 DUNE 23-Nov-19 22:24
Re: Found it! 252 PB Bytes 23-Nov-19 22:44
Re: Found it! 313 PB Bytes 24-Nov-19 17:44
Re: Found it! 269 DUNE 24-Nov-19 18:29
Re: Found it! 275 PB Bytes 24-Nov-19 18:34
Re: Found it! 260 PB Bytes 23-Nov-19 20:59
Re: Found it! 255 magisterchessmutt 23-Nov-19 19:55
Totally debunked 266 Lee McGiffen 24-Nov-19 05:23
NOT Totally debunked 255 PB Bytes 24-Nov-19 05:41
eg: NOT Totally debunked 273 PB Bytes 24-Nov-19 06:12
Khufu <> Khafre 297 Dr. Troglodyte 23-Nov-19 00:28
Re: Khufu <> Khafre 255 Mercurial 24-Nov-19 19:12
Khufu <> Khafre - Update 220 Dr. Troglodyte 11-Jan-20 19:56
Re: Found it! 280 Jim Alison 23-Nov-19 01:35
Re: DUNE!: Remen : Meridian 270 magisterchessmutt 19-Nov-19 03:45
Re: DUNE!: Remen : Meridian 266 Jim Alison 19-Nov-19 14:05
Re: DUNE!: Remen : Meridian 287 magisterchessmutt 20-Nov-19 00:27
Re: DUNE!: Remen : Meridian 268 Jim Alison 20-Nov-19 15:34
Re: DUNE!: Remen : Meridian 267 magisterchessmutt 19-Nov-19 03:49
Re: DUNE!: Remen : Meridian 271 DUNE 19-Nov-19 10:37
Re: DUNE!: Remen : Meridian 267 Jim Alison 19-Nov-19 14:22
Re: DUNE!: Remen : Meridian 259 DUNE 19-Nov-19 15:37
Re: DUNE!: Remen : Meridian 259 Jim Alison 20-Nov-19 00:44
Re: DUNE!: Remen : Meridian 282 PB Bytes 19-Nov-19 16:43
Re: DUNE!: Remen : Meridian 266 Jim Alison 20-Nov-19 01:07
Re: DUNE!: Remen : Meridian 292 PB Bytes 20-Nov-19 01:38
Re: DUNE!: Remen : Meridian 263 Jim Alison 20-Nov-19 14:28
Where is this leading? 272 PB Bytes 21-Nov-19 17:19
Re: Where is this leading? 285 Lee McGiffen 22-Nov-19 06:49
Re: Remen : Meridian 282 PB Bytes 16-Nov-19 18:00
Re: Remen : Meridian 286 Jim Alison 16-Nov-19 22:09
Excellent! 293 thinkitover 16-Nov-19 18:29
Re: Excellent! 330 Jim Alison 16-Nov-19 22:24
Re: Excellent! 318 Lee McGiffen 18-Nov-19 07:36
Re: Excellent! 309 Jim Alison 18-Nov-19 15:55
Re: Excellent! 287 magisterchessmutt 19-Nov-19 03:57
Re: Remen : Meridian 283 Spiros 20-Nov-19 15:06
Re: Remen : Meridian 277 Spiros 20-Nov-19 19:28
Re: Remen : Meridian 274 Jim Alison 20-Nov-19 20:24
Re: Remen : Meridian 268 Spiros 20-Nov-19 22:25
Re: Remen : Meridian 302 Spiros 20-Nov-19 22:58
Re: Remen : Meridian 286 Spiros 20-Nov-19 23:49
Re: Remen : Meridian 274 Jim Alison 20-Nov-19 23:40
The Earth number 347 hendrik dirker 21-Nov-19 05:48
Re: The Earth number 296 Jim Alison 21-Nov-19 13:15
Re: The Earth number 294 molder 22-Nov-19 19:30
Re: The Earth number 267 Jim Alison 23-Nov-19 01:44
Geometry as Metrology? 324 thinkitover 23-Nov-19 22:56
Re: Geometry as Metrology? 283 magisterchessmutt 24-Nov-19 00:04
Re: Geometry as Metrology? 290 Jim Alison 24-Nov-19 01:16
Re: Geometry as Metrology? 322 magisterchessmutt 24-Nov-19 01:36
Re: Geometry as Metrology? 321 magisterchessmutt 24-Nov-19 01:49
Re: Remen : Meridian 425 magisterchessmutt 24-Nov-19 02:38
Re: Remen : Meridian 292 DavidK 11-Dec-19 23:26
Re: Remen : Meridian 277 DavidK 12-Dec-19 13:23
Re: Remen : Meridian 323 thinkitover 12-Dec-19 18:51
Re: Remen : Meridian 298 DavidK 12-Dec-19 21:27
Re: Remen : Meridian 251 Jiri Mruzek 13-Dec-19 00:55
Re: Remen : Meridian 236 DavidK 13-Dec-19 09:51
Re: Remen : Meridian 250 Jim Alison 13-Dec-19 03:48
Re: Remen : Meridian 242 magisterchessmutt 13-Dec-19 04:58
Re: Remen : Meridian 239 magisterchessmutt 13-Dec-19 05:44
Re: Remen : Meridian 238 DavidK 13-Dec-19 09:58
Re: Remen : Meridian 243 DavidK 13-Dec-19 09:15
Re: Remen : Meridian 244 magisterchessmutt 13-Dec-19 11:02
Re: Remen : Meridian 261 DavidK 13-Dec-19 11:07
Re: Earth circumference 320 drew 17-Dec-19 23:57
Re: Earth circumference 301 DavidK 18-Dec-19 11:29
Re: Earth circumference 266 drew 20-Dec-19 00:22
Re: Earth circumference 276 hendrik dirker 20-Dec-19 06:07
Re: Earth circumference 249 DavidK 20-Dec-19 13:27
Re: Earth circumference 240 hendrik dirker 21-Dec-19 12:48
Re: Earth circumference 252 Jim Alison 20-Dec-19 20:48
Re: Earth circumference 254 hendrik dirker 21-Dec-19 11:44
Re: Earth circumference 231 drew 20-Dec-19 23:48
Re: Remen : Meridian 240 Jim Alison 20-Dec-19 19:26
Re: Remen : Meridian 238 magisterchessmutt 21-Dec-19 01:54
Re: Remen : Meridian 244 Jim Alison 21-Dec-19 04:30
Re: Remen : Meridian 241 magisterchessmutt 21-Dec-19 07:43
Re: Remen : Meridian 237 DavidK 21-Dec-19 10:56
Re: Remen : Meridian 238 magisterchessmutt 21-Dec-19 11:24
Re: Remen : Meridian 231 magisterchessmutt 21-Dec-19 11:48
Re: Remen : Meridian 223 DavidK 21-Dec-19 16:08
Re: Remen : Meridian 254 DavidK 21-Dec-19 12:49
Re: Remen : Meridian 239 Jim Alison 21-Dec-19 15:19
Re: Remen : Meridian 231 molder 21-Dec-19 20:33
Re: Remen : Meridian 228 DavidK 21-Dec-19 23:49
Re: Remen : Meridian 225 Jim Alison 22-Dec-19 03:02
Re: Remen : Meridian 223 DavidK 22-Dec-19 10:30
Re: Roman measures Hang on let us get this right. 237 molder 22-Dec-19 13:03
Re: Roman measures Hang on let us get this right. 230 DavidK 22-Dec-19 15:01
Re: Roman measures Hang on let us get this right. 234 magisterchessmutt 22-Dec-19 17:13
Re: Roman measures Hang on let us get this right. 239 DavidK 22-Dec-19 17:32
Re: Roman measures Hang on let us get this right. 235 Jim Alison 24-Dec-19 05:23
Stecchini's Metrics 233 thinkitover 21-Dec-19 16:01
Re: Stecchini's Metrics 234 magisterchessmutt 21-Dec-19 17:17
Re: Stecchini's Metrics 238 thinkitover 24-Dec-19 15:06
Re: Remen : Meridian 237 drew 23-Dec-19 00:44
Re: Remen : Meridian 228 Jim Alison 23-Dec-19 02:55
Re: Remen : Meridian 248 DavidK 23-Dec-19 12:34
Re: Remen : Meridian 249 Jim Alison 24-Dec-19 01:09
Re: Remen : Meridian 227 drew 27-Dec-19 23:06
Re: Remen : Meridian 245 DavidK 27-Dec-19 23:59
Re: Remen : Meridian 243 drew 28-Dec-19 22:24
Re: Remen : Meridian 302 DavidK 29-Dec-19 00:50
Re: Remen : Meridian 205 Jim Alison 19-Apr-20 18:46
Re: Remen : Meridian 184 drew 22-Apr-20 23:44
Re: Remen : Meridian 200 magisterchessmutt 23-Apr-20 13:03
Re: Remen : Meridian 208 magisterchessmutt 24-Apr-20 08:14
Re: Remen : Meridian 231 Jim Alison 11-Jan-20 03:53
Re: Remen : Meridian 224 DavidK 11-Jan-20 13:54
The Egyptian Remen 14.58333r inches 391 DavidK 11-Jan-20 16:48
Re: Remen : Meridian 225 Jim Alison 22-Jan-20 00:10
Re: Remen : Meridian 214 Mercurial 22-Jan-20 20:59
say hello to rodz? 243 DavidK 11-Jan-20 18:01
Re: say hello to rodz? 228 thinkitover 12-Jan-20 06:03
Re: say hello to rodz? 233 DavidK 12-Jan-20 12:45
Re: say hello to rodz? 312 thinkitover 13-Jan-20 06:41
Re: Remen : Meridian 260 akitu 24-Apr-20 19:26

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