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'Given .5238 meters, or 20.62 inches, for the length of the royal cubit, the length of the remen is .3704 meters or 14.58 inches. The meridian circumference of the earth is 40,008,000 meters or 111,133 meters per average degree of latitude. 300,000 remen times .3704 equals 111,120 meters. 5000 remen equals one minute of latitude and 500 remen equals one tenth of one minute of latitude. Given 20.62 inches for the length of the royal cubit, the remen expresses the length of an average degree of latitude with greater accuracy than the modern meter, that was fixed before the exact length of the meridian circumference was known to its creators, and unlike the meter, the remen is in unity with minutes and degrees of latitude. Archaeological and textual evidence from throughout ancient Egyptian history, as well as textual evidence from ancient Greek and Roman sources, support a conclusion that the correspondence between the length of the remen and royal cubit, and the meridian length of Egypt and the earth, was known to its creators.’

almost 100% agree but if you use Berriman's measures this works out exactly. 0.3704 is not quite right. 14.58 is not quite right and 20.62 is not quite right. It all has to be exact and the royal cubit is 20.625 inches as 14.58333r x 99/70.

this is 20 digits(one remen) as 14.58333r the digit is 0.7291666r x 54 is the metre = 39.375, this is the one used by Magisterchessmut.This is the one that was used by the designers not the French one.

This can be converted into centimetres because if 39.375 is 100 centimetres then 14.58333r is 37.037037037r or 0.370370r against your 0.3704.

So your figures can be adjusted

The cubit is 37.037037r x 99/70 = 52.38095238 not 52.38 centimetres

52.38095238 x 7 =146.666r exactly the eclipse unit.

37.037037 is the remen

111120 metres / 0.3704 x 0.37037037 = 111111.111r metres

everything is worked out exactly to Berriman who starts with 14.58 as his remen but alters it for his Egyptian remen.

I am not making this up it is directly from his book.

Berriman suggests that the relationship between the circle and inscribed square length are 9 to 10 being 1.11111r

He has the metre as 39.375 and the cubit as 20.625. Root 2 as 99/70.

He has the Egyptians using 1.296296296r being 35/27 x 20 x 1000 x 99/70 = 36666.666r.

the first line in his book

'This inquiry reveals the oldest extant weights and measures linked by significant magnitude ratios to those current in historical times, and suggests that this ancient metrology was geodetic in origin.

So what you are doing without realising is repeating Berriman's calculations to support his argument without quite getting them to agree his.

Berriman was an Oxford professor and had access to the Oxford library and his studies were his private work.

The point i am trying to make here is that until we all realise whose analysis we are using or almost using correctly the same theories will appear with different calculations over and over again.

This was happening over 10 years ago on this very website, nothing has changed.

Michell and Neal use Berriman's figures but Neal gives him scant credit and actually says his findings are almost miraculous because he got his measures wrong.

111111.1111111111111 x 360 = 40000000 so the french got one bit correct.( Berriman's 10/9 bit.)

The square inside the circle of 40000000 is 36000000. This is Michell's canon.You could also say it is Thom's canon.

As well as being geodetic it is astronomical and geometrical.



Edited 5 time(s). Last edit at 12-Dec-19 13:45 by DavidK.

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Remen : Meridian 2309 Jim Alison 15-Nov-19 22:52
DUNE!: Remen : Meridian 221 PB Bytes 16-Nov-19 17:55
Re: DUNE!: Remen : Meridian 206 DUNE 17-Nov-19 09:56
Re: DUNE!: Remen : Meridian 178 Jim Alison 17-Nov-19 23:45
Re: DUNE!: Remen : Meridian 182 PB Bytes 17-Nov-19 23:59
Found it! 226 PB Bytes 18-Nov-19 02:55
Re: Found it! 183 Mercurial 20-Nov-19 11:44
Re: Found it! 164 Jim Alison 20-Nov-19 14:42
Squaring The Circle 193 Dr. Troglodyte 20-Nov-19 18:59
Re: Squaring The Circle 187 Jim Alison 20-Nov-19 20:02
Re: Squaring The Circle 178 Jim Alison 20-Nov-19 20:22
Remen references 195 Lee McGiffen 21-Nov-19 01:59
Re: Remen references 200 Jim Alison 21-Nov-19 04:29
Re: Remen references 168 magisterchessmutt 24-Nov-19 13:56
Re: Remen references 139 Jim Alison 24-Nov-19 20:05
Re: Remen references 156 magisterchessmutt 24-Nov-19 21:17
Re: Remen references 140 magisterchessmutt 25-Nov-19 01:24
Re: Remen references 140 magisterchessmutt 25-Nov-19 12:10
Re: Remen references 179 DUNE 25-Nov-19 13:17
Re: Remen references 114 Jim Alison 16-Jan-20 20:22
Drastic Geodetic Measures and Nippur Cubit 182 thinkitover 25-Nov-19 06:46
Re: Remen references 167 Jim Alison 26-Nov-19 08:04
Re: Remen references 190 Lee McGiffen 27-Nov-19 12:54
Re: Remen references 147 Mercurial 28-Nov-19 22:32
Re: Remen references 197 Jim Alison 01-Dec-19 06:15
Re: Squaring The Circle 200 magisterchessmutt 21-Nov-19 00:47
Re: Squaring The Circle 156 magisterchessmutt 21-Nov-19 02:32
Re: Squaring The Circle 153 Jim Alison 21-Nov-19 05:20
Re: Squaring The Circle 216 magisterchessmutt 21-Nov-19 06:26
Egyptian knowledge of √2 156 Lee McGiffen 22-Nov-19 06:39
Re: Egyptian knowledge of √2 136 magisterchessmutt 23-Nov-19 01:19
Re: Egyptian knowledge of √2 169 thinkitover 23-Nov-19 09:45
Re: Egyptian knowledge of √2 144 magisterchessmutt 23-Nov-19 14:42
Re: Egyptian knowledge of √2 140 PB Bytes 23-Nov-19 16:10
Everything Mick wrote here - 86 pages 151 geoffss 21-Nov-19 10:49
Re: Everything Mick wrote here - 86 pages 148 magisterchessmutt 21-Nov-19 11:54
Re: Squaring The Circle 115 molder 20-Dec-19 12:45
Re: Found it! 169 Mercurial 22-Nov-19 06:48
Re: Found it! 158 magisterchessmutt 22-Nov-19 12:01
Re: Found it! 153 PB Bytes 22-Nov-19 15:24
Re: Found it! 183 magisterchessmutt 22-Nov-19 23:55
Re: Found it! 146 PB Bytes 23-Nov-19 02:06
Re: Found it! 145 magisterchessmutt 23-Nov-19 02:36
Re: Found it! 145 PB Bytes 23-Nov-19 03:37
Re: Found it! 148 DUNE 23-Nov-19 18:42
Re: Found it! 135 PB Bytes 23-Nov-19 19:37
Re: Found it! 147 DUNE 23-Nov-19 20:14
Re: Found it! 136 PB Bytes 23-Nov-19 20:27
Re: Found it! 137 PB Bytes 23-Nov-19 20:46
Re: Found it! 143 DUNE 23-Nov-19 21:37
Re: Found it! 143 PB Bytes 23-Nov-19 21:55
Re: Found it! 148 DUNE 23-Nov-19 22:24
Re: Found it! 140 PB Bytes 23-Nov-19 22:44
Re: Found it! 194 PB Bytes 24-Nov-19 17:44
Re: Found it! 152 DUNE 24-Nov-19 18:29
Re: Found it! 153 PB Bytes 24-Nov-19 18:34
Re: Found it! 146 PB Bytes 23-Nov-19 20:59
Re: Found it! 143 magisterchessmutt 23-Nov-19 19:55
Totally debunked 147 Lee McGiffen 24-Nov-19 05:23
NOT Totally debunked 139 PB Bytes 24-Nov-19 05:41
eg: NOT Totally debunked 150 PB Bytes 24-Nov-19 06:12
Khufu <> Khafre 163 Dr. Troglodyte 23-Nov-19 00:28
Re: Khufu <> Khafre 140 Mercurial 24-Nov-19 19:12
Khufu <> Khafre - Update 98 Dr. Troglodyte 11-Jan-20 19:56
Re: Found it! 161 Jim Alison 23-Nov-19 01:35
Re: DUNE!: Remen : Meridian 156 magisterchessmutt 19-Nov-19 03:45
Re: DUNE!: Remen : Meridian 148 Jim Alison 19-Nov-19 14:05
Re: DUNE!: Remen : Meridian 152 magisterchessmutt 20-Nov-19 00:27
Re: DUNE!: Remen : Meridian 146 Jim Alison 20-Nov-19 15:34
Re: DUNE!: Remen : Meridian 142 magisterchessmutt 19-Nov-19 03:49
Re: DUNE!: Remen : Meridian 151 DUNE 19-Nov-19 10:37
Re: DUNE!: Remen : Meridian 147 Jim Alison 19-Nov-19 14:22
Re: DUNE!: Remen : Meridian 146 DUNE 19-Nov-19 15:37
Re: DUNE!: Remen : Meridian 141 Jim Alison 20-Nov-19 00:44
Re: DUNE!: Remen : Meridian 159 PB Bytes 19-Nov-19 16:43
Re: DUNE!: Remen : Meridian 145 Jim Alison 20-Nov-19 01:07
Re: DUNE!: Remen : Meridian 166 PB Bytes 20-Nov-19 01:38
Re: DUNE!: Remen : Meridian 145 Jim Alison 20-Nov-19 14:28
Where is this leading? 153 PB Bytes 21-Nov-19 17:19
Re: Where is this leading? 158 Lee McGiffen 22-Nov-19 06:49
Re: Remen : Meridian 166 PB Bytes 16-Nov-19 18:00
Re: Remen : Meridian 164 Jim Alison 16-Nov-19 22:09
Excellent! 172 thinkitover 16-Nov-19 18:29
Re: Excellent! 201 Jim Alison 16-Nov-19 22:24
Re: Excellent! 173 Lee McGiffen 18-Nov-19 07:36
Re: Excellent! 179 Jim Alison 18-Nov-19 15:55
Re: Excellent! 169 magisterchessmutt 19-Nov-19 03:57
Re: Remen : Meridian 162 Spiros 20-Nov-19 15:06
Re: Remen : Meridian 155 Spiros 20-Nov-19 19:28
Re: Remen : Meridian 150 Jim Alison 20-Nov-19 20:24
Re: Remen : Meridian 145 Spiros 20-Nov-19 22:25
Re: Remen : Meridian 181 Spiros 20-Nov-19 22:58
Re: Remen : Meridian 155 Spiros 20-Nov-19 23:49
Re: Remen : Meridian 156 Jim Alison 20-Nov-19 23:40
The Earth number 209 hendrik dirker 21-Nov-19 05:48
Re: The Earth number 182 Jim Alison 21-Nov-19 13:15
Re: The Earth number 165 molder 22-Nov-19 19:30
Re: The Earth number 148 Jim Alison 23-Nov-19 01:44
Geometry as Metrology? 173 thinkitover 23-Nov-19 22:56
Re: Geometry as Metrology? 161 magisterchessmutt 24-Nov-19 00:04
Re: Geometry as Metrology? 165 Jim Alison 24-Nov-19 01:16
Re: Geometry as Metrology? 187 magisterchessmutt 24-Nov-19 01:36
Re: Geometry as Metrology? 195 magisterchessmutt 24-Nov-19 01:49
Re: Remen : Meridian 232 magisterchessmutt 24-Nov-19 02:38
Re: Remen : Meridian 165 DavidK 11-Dec-19 23:26
Re: Remen : Meridian 147 DavidK 12-Dec-19 13:23
Re: Remen : Meridian 156 thinkitover 12-Dec-19 18:51
Re: Remen : Meridian 172 DavidK 12-Dec-19 21:27
Re: Remen : Meridian 126 Jiri Mruzek 13-Dec-19 00:55
Re: Remen : Meridian 119 DavidK 13-Dec-19 09:51
Re: Remen : Meridian 127 Jim Alison 13-Dec-19 03:48
Re: Remen : Meridian 119 magisterchessmutt 13-Dec-19 04:58
Re: Remen : Meridian 119 magisterchessmutt 13-Dec-19 05:44
Re: Remen : Meridian 122 DavidK 13-Dec-19 09:58
Re: Remen : Meridian 123 DavidK 13-Dec-19 09:15
Re: Remen : Meridian 118 magisterchessmutt 13-Dec-19 11:02
Re: Remen : Meridian 136 DavidK 13-Dec-19 11:07
Re: Earth circumference 149 drew 17-Dec-19 23:57
Re: Earth circumference 156 DavidK 18-Dec-19 11:29
Re: Earth circumference 151 drew 20-Dec-19 00:22
Re: Earth circumference 140 hendrik dirker 20-Dec-19 06:07
Re: Earth circumference 133 DavidK 20-Dec-19 13:27
Re: Earth circumference 119 hendrik dirker 21-Dec-19 12:48
Re: Earth circumference 127 Jim Alison 20-Dec-19 20:48
Re: Earth circumference 131 hendrik dirker 21-Dec-19 11:44
Re: Earth circumference 117 drew 20-Dec-19 23:48
Re: Remen : Meridian 124 Jim Alison 20-Dec-19 19:26
Re: Remen : Meridian 125 magisterchessmutt 21-Dec-19 01:54
Re: Remen : Meridian 123 Jim Alison 21-Dec-19 04:30
Re: Remen : Meridian 115 magisterchessmutt 21-Dec-19 07:43
Re: Remen : Meridian 117 DavidK 21-Dec-19 10:56
Re: Remen : Meridian 121 magisterchessmutt 21-Dec-19 11:24
Re: Remen : Meridian 115 magisterchessmutt 21-Dec-19 11:48
Re: Remen : Meridian 110 DavidK 21-Dec-19 16:08
Re: Remen : Meridian 136 DavidK 21-Dec-19 12:49
Re: Remen : Meridian 118 Jim Alison 21-Dec-19 15:19
Re: Remen : Meridian 116 molder 21-Dec-19 20:33
Re: Remen : Meridian 108 DavidK 21-Dec-19 23:49
Re: Remen : Meridian 116 Jim Alison 22-Dec-19 03:02
Re: Remen : Meridian 114 DavidK 22-Dec-19 10:30
Re: Roman measures Hang on let us get this right. 118 molder 22-Dec-19 13:03
Re: Roman measures Hang on let us get this right. 112 DavidK 22-Dec-19 15:01
Re: Roman measures Hang on let us get this right. 122 magisterchessmutt 22-Dec-19 17:13
Re: Roman measures Hang on let us get this right. 127 DavidK 22-Dec-19 17:32
Re: Roman measures Hang on let us get this right. 120 Jim Alison 24-Dec-19 05:23
Stecchini's Metrics 118 thinkitover 21-Dec-19 16:01
Re: Stecchini's Metrics 125 magisterchessmutt 21-Dec-19 17:17
Re: Stecchini's Metrics 119 thinkitover 24-Dec-19 15:06
Re: Remen : Meridian 122 drew 23-Dec-19 00:44
Re: Remen : Meridian 118 Jim Alison 23-Dec-19 02:55
Re: Remen : Meridian 132 DavidK 23-Dec-19 12:34
Re: Remen : Meridian 135 Jim Alison 24-Dec-19 01:09
Re: Remen : Meridian 115 drew 27-Dec-19 23:06
Re: Remen : Meridian 128 DavidK 27-Dec-19 23:59
Re: Remen : Meridian 125 drew 28-Dec-19 22:24
Re: Remen : Meridian 167 DavidK 29-Dec-19 00:50
Re: Remen : Meridian 83 Jim Alison 19-Apr-20 18:46
Re: Remen : Meridian 63 drew 22-Apr-20 23:44
Re: Remen : Meridian 73 magisterchessmutt 23-Apr-20 13:03
Re: Remen : Meridian 79 magisterchessmutt 24-Apr-20 08:14
Re: Remen : Meridian 118 Jim Alison 11-Jan-20 03:53
Re: Remen : Meridian 108 DavidK 11-Jan-20 13:54
The Egyptian Remen 14.58333r inches 140 DavidK 11-Jan-20 16:48
Re: Remen : Meridian 106 Jim Alison 22-Jan-20 00:10
Re: Remen : Meridian 107 Mercurial 22-Jan-20 20:59
say hello to rodz? 127 DavidK 11-Jan-20 18:01
Re: say hello to rodz? 108 thinkitover 12-Jan-20 06:03
Re: say hello to rodz? 118 DavidK 12-Jan-20 12:45
Re: say hello to rodz? 139 thinkitover 13-Jan-20 06:41
Re: Remen : Meridian 104 akitu 24-Apr-20 19:26


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