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'Given .5238 meters, or 20.62 inches, for the length of the royal cubit, the length of the remen is .3704 meters or 14.58 inches. The meridian circumference of the earth is 40,008,000 meters or 111,133 meters per average degree of latitude. 300,000 remen times .3704 equals 111,120 meters. 5000 remen equals one minute of latitude and 500 remen equals one tenth of one minute of latitude. Given 20.62 inches for the length of the royal cubit, the remen expresses the length of an average degree of latitude with greater accuracy than the modern meter, that was fixed before the exact length of the meridian circumference was known to its creators, and unlike the meter, the remen is in unity with minutes and degrees of latitude. Archaeological and textual evidence from throughout ancient Egyptian history, as well as textual evidence from ancient Greek and Roman sources, support a conclusion that the correspondence between the length of the remen and royal cubit, and the meridian length of Egypt and the earth, was known to its creators.’

almost 100% agree but if you use Berriman's measures this works out exactly. 0.3704 is not quite right. 14.58 is not quite right and 20.62 is not quite right. It all has to be exact and the royal cubit is 20.625 inches as 14.58333r x 99/70.

this is 20 digits(one remen) as 14.58333r the digit is 0.7291666r x 54 is the metre = 39.375, this is the one used by Magisterchessmut.This is the one that was used by the designers not the French one.

This can be converted into centimetres because if 39.375 is 100 centimetres then 14.58333r is 37.037037037r or 0.370370r against your 0.3704.

So your figures can be adjusted

The cubit is 37.037037r x 99/70 = 52.38095238 not 52.38 centimetres

52.38095238 x 7 =146.666r exactly the eclipse unit.

37.037037 is the remen

111120 metres / 0.3704 x 0.37037037 = 111111.111r metres

everything is worked out exactly to Berriman who starts with 14.58 as his remen but alters it for his Egyptian remen.

I am not making this up it is directly from his book.

Berriman suggests that the relationship between the circle and inscribed square length are 9 to 10 being 1.11111r

He has the metre as 39.375 and the cubit as 20.625. Root 2 as 99/70.

He has the Egyptians using 1.296296296r being 35/27 x 20 x 1000 x 99/70 = 36666.666r.

the first line in his book

'This inquiry reveals the oldest extant weights and measures linked by significant magnitude ratios to those current in historical times, and suggests that this ancient metrology was geodetic in origin.

So what you are doing without realising is repeating Berriman's calculations to support his argument without quite getting them to agree his.

Berriman was an Oxford professor and had access to the Oxford library and his studies were his private work.

The point i am trying to make here is that until we all realise whose analysis we are using or almost using correctly the same theories will appear with different calculations over and over again.

This was happening over 10 years ago on this very website, nothing has changed.

Michell and Neal use Berriman's figures but Neal gives him scant credit and actually says his findings are almost miraculous because he got his measures wrong.

111111.1111111111111 x 360 = 40000000 so the french got one bit correct.( Berriman's 10/9 bit.)

The square inside the circle of 40000000 is 36000000. This is Michell's canon.You could also say it is Thom's canon.

As well as being geodetic it is astronomical and geometrical.



Edited 5 time(s). Last edit at 12-Dec-19 13:45 by DavidK.

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Remen : Meridian 1972 Jim Alison 15-Nov-19 22:52
DUNE!: Remen : Meridian 154 Poster Boy 16-Nov-19 17:55
Re: DUNE!: Remen : Meridian 139 DUNE 17-Nov-19 09:56
Re: DUNE!: Remen : Meridian 114 Jim Alison 17-Nov-19 23:45
Re: DUNE!: Remen : Meridian 111 Poster Boy 17-Nov-19 23:59
Found it! 147 Poster Boy 18-Nov-19 02:55
Re: Found it! 113 Mercurial 20-Nov-19 11:44
Re: Found it! 100 Jim Alison 20-Nov-19 14:42
Squaring The Circle 115 Dr. Troglodyte 20-Nov-19 18:59
Re: Squaring The Circle 113 Jim Alison 20-Nov-19 20:02
Re: Squaring The Circle 112 Jim Alison 20-Nov-19 20:22
Remen references 124 Lee McGiffen 21-Nov-19 01:59
Re: Remen references 125 Jim Alison 21-Nov-19 04:29
Re: Remen references 97 magisterchessmutt 24-Nov-19 13:56
Re: Remen references 74 Jim Alison 24-Nov-19 20:05
Re: Remen references 92 magisterchessmutt 24-Nov-19 21:17
Re: Remen references 77 magisterchessmutt 25-Nov-19 01:24
Re: Remen references 78 magisterchessmutt 25-Nov-19 12:10
Re: Remen references 105 DUNE 25-Nov-19 13:17
Re: Remen references 50 Jim Alison 16-Jan-20 20:22
Drastic Geodetic Measures and Nippur Cubit 93 thinkitover 25-Nov-19 06:46
Re: Remen references 96 Jim Alison 26-Nov-19 08:04
Re: Remen references 106 Lee McGiffen 27-Nov-19 12:54
Re: Remen references 82 Mercurial 28-Nov-19 22:32
Re: Remen references 109 Jim Alison 01-Dec-19 06:15
Re: Squaring The Circle 128 magisterchessmutt 21-Nov-19 00:47
Re: Squaring The Circle 88 magisterchessmutt 21-Nov-19 02:32
Re: Squaring The Circle 91 Jim Alison 21-Nov-19 05:20
Re: Squaring The Circle 139 magisterchessmutt 21-Nov-19 06:26
Egyptian knowledge of √2 91 Lee McGiffen 22-Nov-19 06:39
Re: Egyptian knowledge of √2 76 magisterchessmutt 23-Nov-19 01:19
Re: Egyptian knowledge of √2 101 thinkitover 23-Nov-19 09:45
Re: Egyptian knowledge of √2 81 magisterchessmutt 23-Nov-19 14:42
Re: Egyptian knowledge of √2 76 Poster Boy 23-Nov-19 16:10
Everything Mick wrote here - 86 pages 88 geoffss 21-Nov-19 10:49
Re: Everything Mick wrote here - 86 pages 83 magisterchessmutt 21-Nov-19 11:54
Re: Squaring The Circle 48 molder 20-Dec-19 12:45
Re: Found it! 95 Mercurial 22-Nov-19 06:48
Re: Found it! 91 magisterchessmutt 22-Nov-19 12:01
Re: Found it! 87 Poster Boy 22-Nov-19 15:24
Re: Found it! 95 magisterchessmutt 22-Nov-19 23:55
Re: Found it! 79 Poster Boy 23-Nov-19 02:06
Re: Found it! 79 magisterchessmutt 23-Nov-19 02:36
Re: Found it! 79 Poster Boy 23-Nov-19 03:37
Re: Found it! 86 DUNE 23-Nov-19 18:42
Re: Found it! 74 Poster Boy 23-Nov-19 19:37
Re: Found it! 83 DUNE 23-Nov-19 20:14
Re: Found it! 74 Poster Boy 23-Nov-19 20:27
Re: Found it! 75 Poster Boy 23-Nov-19 20:46
Re: Found it! 80 DUNE 23-Nov-19 21:37
Re: Found it! 79 Poster Boy 23-Nov-19 21:55
Re: Found it! 82 DUNE 23-Nov-19 22:24
Re: Found it! 75 Poster Boy 23-Nov-19 22:44
Re: Found it! 109 Poster Boy 24-Nov-19 17:44
Re: Found it! 79 DUNE 24-Nov-19 18:29
Re: Found it! 83 Poster Boy 24-Nov-19 18:34
Re: Found it! 79 Poster Boy 23-Nov-19 20:59
Re: Found it! 76 magisterchessmutt 23-Nov-19 19:55
Totally debunked 80 Lee McGiffen 24-Nov-19 05:23
NOT Totally debunked 76 Poster Boy 24-Nov-19 05:41
eg: NOT Totally debunked 88 Poster Boy 24-Nov-19 06:12
Khufu <> Khafre 96 Dr. Troglodyte 23-Nov-19 00:28
Re: Khufu <> Khafre 72 Mercurial 24-Nov-19 19:12
Khufu <> Khafre - Update 35 Dr. Troglodyte 11-Jan-20 19:56
Re: Found it! 95 Jim Alison 23-Nov-19 01:35
Re: DUNE!: Remen : Meridian 95 magisterchessmutt 19-Nov-19 03:45
Re: DUNE!: Remen : Meridian 85 Jim Alison 19-Nov-19 14:05
Re: DUNE!: Remen : Meridian 90 magisterchessmutt 20-Nov-19 00:27
Re: DUNE!: Remen : Meridian 83 Jim Alison 20-Nov-19 15:34
Re: DUNE!: Remen : Meridian 81 magisterchessmutt 19-Nov-19 03:49
Re: DUNE!: Remen : Meridian 87 DUNE 19-Nov-19 10:37
Re: DUNE!: Remen : Meridian 80 Jim Alison 19-Nov-19 14:22
Re: DUNE!: Remen : Meridian 82 DUNE 19-Nov-19 15:37
Re: DUNE!: Remen : Meridian 78 Jim Alison 20-Nov-19 00:44
Re: DUNE!: Remen : Meridian 94 Poster Boy 19-Nov-19 16:43
Re: DUNE!: Remen : Meridian 81 Jim Alison 20-Nov-19 01:07
Re: DUNE!: Remen : Meridian 98 Poster Boy 20-Nov-19 01:38
Re: DUNE!: Remen : Meridian 83 Jim Alison 20-Nov-19 14:28
Where is this leading? 88 Poster Boy 21-Nov-19 17:19
Re: Where is this leading? 89 Lee McGiffen 22-Nov-19 06:49
Re: Remen : Meridian 104 Poster Boy 16-Nov-19 18:00
Re: Remen : Meridian 101 Jim Alison 16-Nov-19 22:09
Excellent! 106 thinkitover 16-Nov-19 18:29
Re: Excellent! 133 Jim Alison 16-Nov-19 22:24
Re: Excellent! 106 Lee McGiffen 18-Nov-19 07:36
Re: Excellent! 108 Jim Alison 18-Nov-19 15:55
Re: Excellent! 103 magisterchessmutt 19-Nov-19 03:57
Re: Remen : Meridian 95 Spiros 20-Nov-19 15:06
Re: Remen : Meridian 86 Spiros 20-Nov-19 19:28
Re: Remen : Meridian 86 Jim Alison 20-Nov-19 20:24
Re: Remen : Meridian 78 Spiros 20-Nov-19 22:25
Re: Remen : Meridian 101 Spiros 20-Nov-19 22:58
Re: Remen : Meridian 85 Spiros 20-Nov-19 23:49
Re: Remen : Meridian 93 Jim Alison 20-Nov-19 23:40
The Earth number 142 hendrik dirker 21-Nov-19 05:48
Re: The Earth number 121 Jim Alison 21-Nov-19 13:15
Re: The Earth number 102 molder 22-Nov-19 19:30
Re: The Earth number 83 Jim Alison 23-Nov-19 01:44
Geometry as Metrology? 102 thinkitover 23-Nov-19 22:56
Re: Geometry as Metrology? 91 magisterchessmutt 24-Nov-19 00:04
Re: Geometry as Metrology? 96 Jim Alison 24-Nov-19 01:16
Re: Geometry as Metrology? 102 magisterchessmutt 24-Nov-19 01:36
Re: Geometry as Metrology? 127 magisterchessmutt 24-Nov-19 01:49
Re: Remen : Meridian 132 magisterchessmutt 24-Nov-19 02:38
Re: Remen : Meridian 92 DavidK 11-Dec-19 23:26
Re: Remen : Meridian 77 DavidK 12-Dec-19 13:23
Re: Remen : Meridian 68 thinkitover 12-Dec-19 18:51
Re: Remen : Meridian 80 DavidK 12-Dec-19 21:27
Re: Remen : Meridian 60 Jiri Mruzek 13-Dec-19 00:55
Re: Remen : Meridian 57 DavidK 13-Dec-19 09:51
Re: Remen : Meridian 60 Jim Alison 13-Dec-19 03:48
Re: Remen : Meridian 60 magisterchessmutt 13-Dec-19 04:58
Re: Remen : Meridian 60 magisterchessmutt 13-Dec-19 05:44
Re: Remen : Meridian 62 DavidK 13-Dec-19 09:58
Re: Remen : Meridian 61 DavidK 13-Dec-19 09:15
Re: Remen : Meridian 54 magisterchessmutt 13-Dec-19 11:02
Re: Remen : Meridian 72 DavidK 13-Dec-19 11:07
Re: Earth circumference 80 drew 17-Dec-19 23:57
Re: Earth circumference 81 DavidK 18-Dec-19 11:29
Re: Earth circumference 85 drew 20-Dec-19 00:22
Re: Earth circumference 71 hendrik dirker 20-Dec-19 06:07
Re: Earth circumference 69 DavidK 20-Dec-19 13:27
Re: Earth circumference 52 hendrik dirker 21-Dec-19 12:48
Re: Earth circumference 62 Jim Alison 20-Dec-19 20:48
Re: Earth circumference 58 hendrik dirker 21-Dec-19 11:44
Re: Earth circumference 55 drew 20-Dec-19 23:48
Re: Remen : Meridian 59 Jim Alison 20-Dec-19 19:26
Re: Remen : Meridian 62 magisterchessmutt 21-Dec-19 01:54
Re: Remen : Meridian 59 Jim Alison 21-Dec-19 04:30
Re: Remen : Meridian 48 magisterchessmutt 21-Dec-19 07:43
Re: Remen : Meridian 52 DavidK 21-Dec-19 10:56
Re: Remen : Meridian 58 magisterchessmutt 21-Dec-19 11:24
Re: Remen : Meridian 52 magisterchessmutt 21-Dec-19 11:48
Re: Remen : Meridian 45 DavidK 21-Dec-19 16:08
Re: Remen : Meridian 68 DavidK 21-Dec-19 12:49
Re: Remen : Meridian 53 Jim Alison 21-Dec-19 15:19
Re: Remen : Meridian 49 molder 21-Dec-19 20:33
Re: Remen : Meridian 47 DavidK 21-Dec-19 23:49
Re: Remen : Meridian 52 Jim Alison 22-Dec-19 03:02
Re: Remen : Meridian 55 DavidK 22-Dec-19 10:30
Re: Roman measures Hang on let us get this right. 53 molder 22-Dec-19 13:03
Re: Roman measures Hang on let us get this right. 51 DavidK 22-Dec-19 15:01
Re: Roman measures Hang on let us get this right. 63 magisterchessmutt 22-Dec-19 17:13
Re: Roman measures Hang on let us get this right. 65 DavidK 22-Dec-19 17:32
Re: Roman measures Hang on let us get this right. 59 Jim Alison 24-Dec-19 05:23
Stecchini's Metrics 56 thinkitover 21-Dec-19 16:01
Re: Stecchini's Metrics 65 magisterchessmutt 21-Dec-19 17:17
Re: Stecchini's Metrics 57 thinkitover 24-Dec-19 15:06
Re: Remen : Meridian 58 drew 23-Dec-19 00:44
Re: Remen : Meridian 57 Jim Alison 23-Dec-19 02:55
Re: Remen : Meridian 67 DavidK 23-Dec-19 12:34
Re: Remen : Meridian 73 Jim Alison 24-Dec-19 01:09
Re: Remen : Meridian 49 drew 27-Dec-19 23:06
Re: Remen : Meridian 57 DavidK 27-Dec-19 23:59
Re: Remen : Meridian 53 drew 28-Dec-19 22:24
Re: Remen : Meridian 96 DavidK 29-Dec-19 00:50
Re: Remen : Meridian 53 Jim Alison 11-Jan-20 03:53
Re: Remen : Meridian 49 DavidK 11-Jan-20 13:54
The Egyptian Remen 14.58333r inches 58 DavidK 11-Jan-20 16:48
Re: Remen : Meridian 41 Jim Alison 22-Jan-20 00:10
Re: Remen : Meridian 35 Mercurial 22-Jan-20 20:59
say hello to rodz? 58 DavidK 11-Jan-20 18:01
Re: say hello to rodz? 42 thinkitover 12-Jan-20 06:03
Re: say hello to rodz? 49 DavidK 12-Jan-20 12:45
Re: say hello to rodz? 47 thinkitover 13-Jan-20 06:41


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