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'Given .5238 meters, or 20.62 inches, for the length of the royal cubit, the length of the remen is .3704 meters or 14.58 inches. The meridian circumference of the earth is 40,008,000 meters or 111,133 meters per average degree of latitude. 300,000 remen times .3704 equals 111,120 meters. 5000 remen equals one minute of latitude and 500 remen equals one tenth of one minute of latitude. Given 20.62 inches for the length of the royal cubit, the remen expresses the length of an average degree of latitude with greater accuracy than the modern meter, that was fixed before the exact length of the meridian circumference was known to its creators, and unlike the meter, the remen is in unity with minutes and degrees of latitude. Archaeological and textual evidence from throughout ancient Egyptian history, as well as textual evidence from ancient Greek and Roman sources, support a conclusion that the correspondence between the length of the remen and royal cubit, and the meridian length of Egypt and the earth, was known to its creators.’

almost 100% agree but if you use Berriman's measures this works out exactly. 0.3704 is not quite right. 14.58 is not quite right and 20.62 is not quite right. It all has to be exact and the royal cubit is 20.625 inches as 14.58333r x 99/70.

this is 20 digits(one remen) as 14.58333r the digit is 0.7291666r x 54 is the metre = 39.375, this is the one used by Magisterchessmut.This is the one that was used by the designers not the French one.

This can be converted into centimetres because if 39.375 is 100 centimetres then 14.58333r is 37.037037037r or 0.370370r against your 0.3704.

So your figures can be adjusted

The cubit is 37.037037r x 99/70 = 52.38095238 not 52.38 centimetres

52.38095238 x 7 =146.666r exactly the eclipse unit.

37.037037 is the remen

111120 metres / 0.3704 x 0.37037037 = 111111.111r metres

everything is worked out exactly to Berriman who starts with 14.58 as his remen but alters it for his Egyptian remen.

I am not making this up it is directly from his book.

Berriman suggests that the relationship between the circle and inscribed square length are 9 to 10 being 1.11111r

He has the metre as 39.375 and the cubit as 20.625. Root 2 as 99/70.

He has the Egyptians using 1.296296296r being 35/27 x 20 x 1000 x 99/70 = 36666.666r.

the first line in his book

'This inquiry reveals the oldest extant weights and measures linked by significant magnitude ratios to those current in historical times, and suggests that this ancient metrology was geodetic in origin.

So what you are doing without realising is repeating Berriman's calculations to support his argument without quite getting them to agree his.

Berriman was an Oxford professor and had access to the Oxford library and his studies were his private work.

The point i am trying to make here is that until we all realise whose analysis we are using or almost using correctly the same theories will appear with different calculations over and over again.

This was happening over 10 years ago on this very website, nothing has changed.

Michell and Neal use Berriman's figures but Neal gives him scant credit and actually says his findings are almost miraculous because he got his measures wrong.

111111.1111111111111 x 360 = 40000000 so the french got one bit correct.( Berriman's 10/9 bit.)

The square inside the circle of 40000000 is 36000000. This is Michell's canon.You could also say it is Thom's canon.

As well as being geodetic it is astronomical and geometrical.



Edited 5 time(s). Last edit at 12-Dec-19 13:45 by DavidK.

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Remen : Meridian 2621 Jim Alison 15-Nov-19 22:52
DUNE!: Remen : Meridian 323 PB Bytes 16-Nov-19 17:55
Re: DUNE!: Remen : Meridian 312 DUNE 17-Nov-19 09:56
Re: DUNE!: Remen : Meridian 288 Jim Alison 17-Nov-19 23:45
Re: DUNE!: Remen : Meridian 291 PB Bytes 17-Nov-19 23:59
Found it! 331 PB Bytes 18-Nov-19 02:55
Re: Found it! 289 Mercurial 20-Nov-19 11:44
Re: Found it! 274 Jim Alison 20-Nov-19 14:42
Squaring The Circle 301 Dr. Troglodyte 20-Nov-19 18:59
Re: Squaring The Circle 295 Jim Alison 20-Nov-19 20:02
Re: Squaring The Circle 285 Jim Alison 20-Nov-19 20:22
Remen references 310 Lee McGiffen 21-Nov-19 01:59
Re: Remen references 310 Jim Alison 21-Nov-19 04:29
Re: Remen references 277 magisterchessmutt 24-Nov-19 13:56
Re: Remen references 247 Jim Alison 24-Nov-19 20:05
Re: Remen references 271 magisterchessmutt 24-Nov-19 21:17
Re: Remen references 254 magisterchessmutt 25-Nov-19 01:24
Re: Remen references 243 magisterchessmutt 25-Nov-19 12:10
Re: Remen references 299 DUNE 25-Nov-19 13:17
Re: Remen references 212 Jim Alison 16-Jan-20 20:22
Drastic Geodetic Measures and Nippur Cubit 294 thinkitover 25-Nov-19 06:46
Re: Remen references 278 Jim Alison 26-Nov-19 08:04
Re: Remen references 311 Lee McGiffen 27-Nov-19 12:54
Re: Remen references 257 Mercurial 28-Nov-19 22:32
Re: Remen references 326 Jim Alison 01-Dec-19 06:15
Re: Squaring The Circle 320 magisterchessmutt 21-Nov-19 00:47
Re: Squaring The Circle 267 magisterchessmutt 21-Nov-19 02:32
Re: Squaring The Circle 258 Jim Alison 21-Nov-19 05:20
Re: Squaring The Circle 336 magisterchessmutt 21-Nov-19 06:26
Egyptian knowledge of √2 260 Lee McGiffen 22-Nov-19 06:39
Re: Egyptian knowledge of √2 234 magisterchessmutt 23-Nov-19 01:19
Re: Egyptian knowledge of √2 283 thinkitover 23-Nov-19 09:45
Re: Egyptian knowledge of √2 248 magisterchessmutt 23-Nov-19 14:42
Re: Egyptian knowledge of √2 242 PB Bytes 23-Nov-19 16:10
Everything Mick wrote here - 86 pages 263 geoffss 21-Nov-19 10:49
Re: Everything Mick wrote here - 86 pages 259 magisterchessmutt 21-Nov-19 11:54
Re: Squaring The Circle 221 molder 20-Dec-19 12:45
Re: Found it! 294 Mercurial 22-Nov-19 06:48
Re: Found it! 259 magisterchessmutt 22-Nov-19 12:01
Re: Found it! 255 PB Bytes 22-Nov-19 15:24
Re: Found it! 293 magisterchessmutt 22-Nov-19 23:55
Re: Found it! 251 PB Bytes 23-Nov-19 02:06
Re: Found it! 248 magisterchessmutt 23-Nov-19 02:36
Re: Found it! 243 PB Bytes 23-Nov-19 03:37
Re: Found it! 252 DUNE 23-Nov-19 18:42
Re: Found it! 235 PB Bytes 23-Nov-19 19:37
Re: Found it! 253 DUNE 23-Nov-19 20:14
Re: Found it! 242 PB Bytes 23-Nov-19 20:27
Re: Found it! 239 PB Bytes 23-Nov-19 20:46
Re: Found it! 243 DUNE 23-Nov-19 21:37
Re: Found it! 245 PB Bytes 23-Nov-19 21:55
Re: Found it! 246 DUNE 23-Nov-19 22:24
Re: Found it! 239 PB Bytes 23-Nov-19 22:44
Re: Found it! 299 PB Bytes 24-Nov-19 17:44
Re: Found it! 255 DUNE 24-Nov-19 18:29
Re: Found it! 259 PB Bytes 24-Nov-19 18:34
Re: Found it! 246 PB Bytes 23-Nov-19 20:59
Re: Found it! 243 magisterchessmutt 23-Nov-19 19:55
Totally debunked 249 Lee McGiffen 24-Nov-19 05:23
NOT Totally debunked 240 PB Bytes 24-Nov-19 05:41
eg: NOT Totally debunked 256 PB Bytes 24-Nov-19 06:12
Khufu <> Khafre 279 Dr. Troglodyte 23-Nov-19 00:28
Re: Khufu <> Khafre 242 Mercurial 24-Nov-19 19:12
Khufu <> Khafre - Update 205 Dr. Troglodyte 11-Jan-20 19:56
Re: Found it! 267 Jim Alison 23-Nov-19 01:35
Re: DUNE!: Remen : Meridian 257 magisterchessmutt 19-Nov-19 03:45
Re: DUNE!: Remen : Meridian 252 Jim Alison 19-Nov-19 14:05
Re: DUNE!: Remen : Meridian 269 magisterchessmutt 20-Nov-19 00:27
Re: DUNE!: Remen : Meridian 253 Jim Alison 20-Nov-19 15:34
Re: DUNE!: Remen : Meridian 253 magisterchessmutt 19-Nov-19 03:49
Re: DUNE!: Remen : Meridian 257 DUNE 19-Nov-19 10:37
Re: DUNE!: Remen : Meridian 253 Jim Alison 19-Nov-19 14:22
Re: DUNE!: Remen : Meridian 244 DUNE 19-Nov-19 15:37
Re: DUNE!: Remen : Meridian 246 Jim Alison 20-Nov-19 00:44
Re: DUNE!: Remen : Meridian 265 PB Bytes 19-Nov-19 16:43
Re: DUNE!: Remen : Meridian 251 Jim Alison 20-Nov-19 01:07
Re: DUNE!: Remen : Meridian 279 PB Bytes 20-Nov-19 01:38
Re: DUNE!: Remen : Meridian 250 Jim Alison 20-Nov-19 14:28
Where is this leading? 258 PB Bytes 21-Nov-19 17:19
Re: Where is this leading? 269 Lee McGiffen 22-Nov-19 06:49
Re: Remen : Meridian 268 PB Bytes 16-Nov-19 18:00
Re: Remen : Meridian 270 Jim Alison 16-Nov-19 22:09
Excellent! 278 thinkitover 16-Nov-19 18:29
Re: Excellent! 315 Jim Alison 16-Nov-19 22:24
Re: Excellent! 298 Lee McGiffen 18-Nov-19 07:36
Re: Excellent! 294 Jim Alison 18-Nov-19 15:55
Re: Excellent! 273 magisterchessmutt 19-Nov-19 03:57
Re: Remen : Meridian 267 Spiros 20-Nov-19 15:06
Re: Remen : Meridian 262 Spiros 20-Nov-19 19:28
Re: Remen : Meridian 257 Jim Alison 20-Nov-19 20:24
Re: Remen : Meridian 253 Spiros 20-Nov-19 22:25
Re: Remen : Meridian 287 Spiros 20-Nov-19 22:58
Re: Remen : Meridian 268 Spiros 20-Nov-19 23:49
Re: Remen : Meridian 261 Jim Alison 20-Nov-19 23:40
The Earth number 330 hendrik dirker 21-Nov-19 05:48
Re: The Earth number 282 Jim Alison 21-Nov-19 13:15
Re: The Earth number 277 molder 22-Nov-19 19:30
Re: The Earth number 251 Jim Alison 23-Nov-19 01:44
Geometry as Metrology? 303 thinkitover 23-Nov-19 22:56
Re: Geometry as Metrology? 267 magisterchessmutt 24-Nov-19 00:04
Re: Geometry as Metrology? 275 Jim Alison 24-Nov-19 01:16
Re: Geometry as Metrology? 302 magisterchessmutt 24-Nov-19 01:36
Re: Geometry as Metrology? 306 magisterchessmutt 24-Nov-19 01:49
Re: Remen : Meridian 410 magisterchessmutt 24-Nov-19 02:38
Re: Remen : Meridian 277 DavidK 11-Dec-19 23:26
Re: Remen : Meridian 261 DavidK 12-Dec-19 13:23
Re: Remen : Meridian 306 thinkitover 12-Dec-19 18:51
Re: Remen : Meridian 282 DavidK 12-Dec-19 21:27
Re: Remen : Meridian 235 Jiri Mruzek 13-Dec-19 00:55
Re: Remen : Meridian 221 DavidK 13-Dec-19 09:51
Re: Remen : Meridian 235 Jim Alison 13-Dec-19 03:48
Re: Remen : Meridian 227 magisterchessmutt 13-Dec-19 04:58
Re: Remen : Meridian 222 magisterchessmutt 13-Dec-19 05:44
Re: Remen : Meridian 222 DavidK 13-Dec-19 09:58
Re: Remen : Meridian 227 DavidK 13-Dec-19 09:15
Re: Remen : Meridian 227 magisterchessmutt 13-Dec-19 11:02
Re: Remen : Meridian 243 DavidK 13-Dec-19 11:07
Re: Earth circumference 302 drew 17-Dec-19 23:57
Re: Earth circumference 282 DavidK 18-Dec-19 11:29
Re: Earth circumference 252 drew 20-Dec-19 00:22
Re: Earth circumference 256 hendrik dirker 20-Dec-19 06:07
Re: Earth circumference 234 DavidK 20-Dec-19 13:27
Re: Earth circumference 222 hendrik dirker 21-Dec-19 12:48
Re: Earth circumference 236 Jim Alison 20-Dec-19 20:48
Re: Earth circumference 236 hendrik dirker 21-Dec-19 11:44
Re: Earth circumference 217 drew 20-Dec-19 23:48
Re: Remen : Meridian 224 Jim Alison 20-Dec-19 19:26
Re: Remen : Meridian 220 magisterchessmutt 21-Dec-19 01:54
Re: Remen : Meridian 229 Jim Alison 21-Dec-19 04:30
Re: Remen : Meridian 225 magisterchessmutt 21-Dec-19 07:43
Re: Remen : Meridian 222 DavidK 21-Dec-19 10:56
Re: Remen : Meridian 223 magisterchessmutt 21-Dec-19 11:24
Re: Remen : Meridian 216 magisterchessmutt 21-Dec-19 11:48
Re: Remen : Meridian 209 DavidK 21-Dec-19 16:08
Re: Remen : Meridian 238 DavidK 21-Dec-19 12:49
Re: Remen : Meridian 222 Jim Alison 21-Dec-19 15:19
Re: Remen : Meridian 217 molder 21-Dec-19 20:33
Re: Remen : Meridian 210 DavidK 21-Dec-19 23:49
Re: Remen : Meridian 212 Jim Alison 22-Dec-19 03:02
Re: Remen : Meridian 208 DavidK 22-Dec-19 10:30
Re: Roman measures Hang on let us get this right. 219 molder 22-Dec-19 13:03
Re: Roman measures Hang on let us get this right. 214 DavidK 22-Dec-19 15:01
Re: Roman measures Hang on let us get this right. 219 magisterchessmutt 22-Dec-19 17:13
Re: Roman measures Hang on let us get this right. 226 DavidK 22-Dec-19 17:32
Re: Roman measures Hang on let us get this right. 219 Jim Alison 24-Dec-19 05:23
Stecchini's Metrics 219 thinkitover 21-Dec-19 16:01
Re: Stecchini's Metrics 221 magisterchessmutt 21-Dec-19 17:17
Re: Stecchini's Metrics 223 thinkitover 24-Dec-19 15:06
Re: Remen : Meridian 221 drew 23-Dec-19 00:44
Re: Remen : Meridian 215 Jim Alison 23-Dec-19 02:55
Re: Remen : Meridian 231 DavidK 23-Dec-19 12:34
Re: Remen : Meridian 235 Jim Alison 24-Dec-19 01:09
Re: Remen : Meridian 212 drew 27-Dec-19 23:06
Re: Remen : Meridian 230 DavidK 27-Dec-19 23:59
Re: Remen : Meridian 229 drew 28-Dec-19 22:24
Re: Remen : Meridian 285 DavidK 29-Dec-19 00:50
Re: Remen : Meridian 189 Jim Alison 19-Apr-20 18:46
Re: Remen : Meridian 170 drew 22-Apr-20 23:44
Re: Remen : Meridian 181 magisterchessmutt 23-Apr-20 13:03
Re: Remen : Meridian 189 magisterchessmutt 24-Apr-20 08:14
Re: Remen : Meridian 216 Jim Alison 11-Jan-20 03:53
Re: Remen : Meridian 207 DavidK 11-Jan-20 13:54
The Egyptian Remen 14.58333r inches 345 DavidK 11-Jan-20 16:48
Re: Remen : Meridian 211 Jim Alison 22-Jan-20 00:10
Re: Remen : Meridian 201 Mercurial 22-Jan-20 20:59
say hello to rodz? 229 DavidK 11-Jan-20 18:01
Re: say hello to rodz? 211 thinkitover 12-Jan-20 06:03
Re: say hello to rodz? 217 DavidK 12-Jan-20 12:45
Re: say hello to rodz? 291 thinkitover 13-Jan-20 06:41
Re: Remen : Meridian 243 akitu 24-Apr-20 19:26


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