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Hi Spiros,

I think royal cubit:remen is sq rt 2, not 28:20. I think the digit is based on the 20 digit remen. The first few paragraphs of my article talk about this:


In 1940, W.M.F. Petrie stated: “The unit of linear measure was the royal cubit of 20.6 inches. The half diagonal of this was the remen, a second unit of 14.6 inches, which was divided in 20 digits of .73 inches. Thus, by the use of the diagonal, the half of any square area could be readily formed and defined. That this was fully recognized is shown by the half of the area of 100 × 100 cubits being also called remen in land measure. The result of this system was that the royal cubit was 28.28 digits, commonly reckoned as 28 digits, and on one cubit rod the digit value is exactly retained, and the last digit lengthened, to make up 1.28 with the fraction.” 1 “Whether the Egyptian treated the well-known plumb-line as a pendulum is not indicated by any remains, though the plumb-line was commonly in use from very early times. But the notable fact is that 29.157 inches, the diagonal of the 20.62 inch cubit, which was the basis of all land measure, is the length which would swing 100,000 times in 24 hours, exactly true at Memphis Latitude. This is so remarkable that it suggests that it may have been derived from that observed length, and the source entirely forgotten after the scientific age of the pyramid builders.”

In 1883, Petrie stated: “The digit, from about a dozen examples deduced from monuments, I had concluded to be .7276 inches; here, from three clear and certain examples of it, the conclusion is .727 ± .002 for its length in the fourth dynasty, practically identical with the mean value before found. As I have already pointed out, the cubit and digit have no integral relation one to the other, the connection of 28 digits with the cubit being certainly inexact, and merely adopted to avoid fractions. Now these earliest values of the cubit and digit entirely bear out this view; 28 of these digits of .727 is but 20.36 ± .06, in place of the actual cubit of 20.62 ± .01. Is there then any simple connection between the digit and cubit? Considering how in the Great Pyramid, so much of the design appears to be appears to be based on a relation of the squares of linear quantities to one another, or on diagonals of squares, it will not be impossible to entertain the theory of the cubit and digit being reciprocally connected by diagonals. A square cubit has a diagonal of 40 digits, or 20 digits squared has a diagonal of one cubit, thus, a square cubit is the double of a square of 20 digits, so that halves of areas can be readily stated. This relation is true to well within the small uncertainties of our knowledge of the standards; the diagonal of a square cubit of 20.62 being 40 digits of .729 and the actual mean digit being .727 ± .002. This is certainly the only simple connection that can be traced between the cubit and digit.”

In 1957, Schwaller de Lubicz stated: “the cubit that measures 52.36 centimeters divided by 28.2842, or 20/2, instead of exactly 28 fingers, results in a very short digit measuring 1.85 centimeters; and 28 of these shorter digits would make a cubit of 51.85 centimeters, which has not yet been found as a cubit of 28 digits, but one often comes across the remen cubit measuring 20 of these digits marked on the large royal cubit.” In 1972, Richard Gillings stated: “A double remen was the length of the diagonal of a square whose side was one cubit. Using the royal cubit, which was most commonly the case, a double-remen was therefore 29.1325 inches (/2 × 20.6), and consequently the remen was 14.566 inches. It is thought that the double-remen was used in measuring land, because it enabled areas to be halved or doubled without altering their shapes.” In 2005, Dieter Lelgemann stated: “Development of the old Egyptian length units is connected to the Egyptian method to mark off a square such as the ground plan of the pyramid of Cheops; (Petrie 1934) found a description of this method on an old papyrus. Based on the remen = 370.4 mm, a new length unit was defined, the old royal cubit = /2R = 523.8 mm = 20.62 inches.”



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 20-Nov-19 23:44 by Jim Alison.

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Remen : Meridian 2022 Jim Alison 15-Nov-19 22:52
DUNE!: Remen : Meridian 166 Poster Boy 16-Nov-19 17:55
Re: DUNE!: Remen : Meridian 155 DUNE 17-Nov-19 09:56
Re: DUNE!: Remen : Meridian 126 Jim Alison 17-Nov-19 23:45
Re: DUNE!: Remen : Meridian 126 Poster Boy 17-Nov-19 23:59
Found it! 166 Poster Boy 18-Nov-19 02:55
Re: Found it! 130 Mercurial 20-Nov-19 11:44
Re: Found it! 113 Jim Alison 20-Nov-19 14:42
Squaring The Circle 132 Dr. Troglodyte 20-Nov-19 18:59
Re: Squaring The Circle 126 Jim Alison 20-Nov-19 20:02
Re: Squaring The Circle 124 Jim Alison 20-Nov-19 20:22
Remen references 140 Lee McGiffen 21-Nov-19 01:59
Re: Remen references 145 Jim Alison 21-Nov-19 04:29
Re: Remen references 113 magisterchessmutt 24-Nov-19 13:56
Re: Remen references 87 Jim Alison 24-Nov-19 20:05
Re: Remen references 104 magisterchessmutt 24-Nov-19 21:17
Re: Remen references 88 magisterchessmutt 25-Nov-19 01:24
Re: Remen references 89 magisterchessmutt 25-Nov-19 12:10
Re: Remen references 121 DUNE 25-Nov-19 13:17
Re: Remen references 62 Jim Alison 16-Jan-20 20:22
Drastic Geodetic Measures and Nippur Cubit 110 thinkitover 25-Nov-19 06:46
Re: Remen references 111 Jim Alison 26-Nov-19 08:04
Re: Remen references 122 Lee McGiffen 27-Nov-19 12:54
Re: Remen references 96 Mercurial 28-Nov-19 22:32
Re: Remen references 126 Jim Alison 01-Dec-19 06:15
Re: Squaring The Circle 146 magisterchessmutt 21-Nov-19 00:47
Re: Squaring The Circle 103 magisterchessmutt 21-Nov-19 02:32
Re: Squaring The Circle 102 Jim Alison 21-Nov-19 05:20
Re: Squaring The Circle 159 magisterchessmutt 21-Nov-19 06:26
Egyptian knowledge of √2 106 Lee McGiffen 22-Nov-19 06:39
Re: Egyptian knowledge of √2 90 magisterchessmutt 23-Nov-19 01:19
Re: Egyptian knowledge of √2 114 thinkitover 23-Nov-19 09:45
Re: Egyptian knowledge of √2 94 magisterchessmutt 23-Nov-19 14:42
Re: Egyptian knowledge of √2 89 Poster Boy 23-Nov-19 16:10
Everything Mick wrote here - 86 pages 100 geoffss 21-Nov-19 10:49
Re: Everything Mick wrote here - 86 pages 95 magisterchessmutt 21-Nov-19 11:54
Re: Squaring The Circle 63 molder 20-Dec-19 12:45
Re: Found it! 112 Mercurial 22-Nov-19 06:48
Re: Found it! 104 magisterchessmutt 22-Nov-19 12:01
Re: Found it! 99 Poster Boy 22-Nov-19 15:24
Re: Found it! 113 magisterchessmutt 22-Nov-19 23:55
Re: Found it! 92 Poster Boy 23-Nov-19 02:06
Re: Found it! 92 magisterchessmutt 23-Nov-19 02:36
Re: Found it! 93 Poster Boy 23-Nov-19 03:37
Re: Found it! 98 DUNE 23-Nov-19 18:42
Re: Found it! 87 Poster Boy 23-Nov-19 19:37
Re: Found it! 96 DUNE 23-Nov-19 20:14
Re: Found it! 87 Poster Boy 23-Nov-19 20:27
Re: Found it! 88 Poster Boy 23-Nov-19 20:46
Re: Found it! 94 DUNE 23-Nov-19 21:37
Re: Found it! 92 Poster Boy 23-Nov-19 21:55
Re: Found it! 98 DUNE 23-Nov-19 22:24
Re: Found it! 88 Poster Boy 23-Nov-19 22:44
Re: Found it! 123 Poster Boy 24-Nov-19 17:44
Re: Found it! 94 DUNE 24-Nov-19 18:29
Re: Found it! 99 Poster Boy 24-Nov-19 18:34
Re: Found it! 92 Poster Boy 23-Nov-19 20:59
Re: Found it! 90 magisterchessmutt 23-Nov-19 19:55
Totally debunked 96 Lee McGiffen 24-Nov-19 05:23
NOT Totally debunked 89 Poster Boy 24-Nov-19 05:41
eg: NOT Totally debunked 101 Poster Boy 24-Nov-19 06:12
Khufu <> Khafre 109 Dr. Troglodyte 23-Nov-19 00:28
Re: Khufu <> Khafre 86 Mercurial 24-Nov-19 19:12
Khufu <> Khafre - Update 49 Dr. Troglodyte 11-Jan-20 19:56
Re: Found it! 109 Jim Alison 23-Nov-19 01:35
Re: DUNE!: Remen : Meridian 106 magisterchessmutt 19-Nov-19 03:45
Re: DUNE!: Remen : Meridian 96 Jim Alison 19-Nov-19 14:05
Re: DUNE!: Remen : Meridian 101 magisterchessmutt 20-Nov-19 00:27
Re: DUNE!: Remen : Meridian 95 Jim Alison 20-Nov-19 15:34
Re: DUNE!: Remen : Meridian 92 magisterchessmutt 19-Nov-19 03:49
Re: DUNE!: Remen : Meridian 99 DUNE 19-Nov-19 10:37
Re: DUNE!: Remen : Meridian 93 Jim Alison 19-Nov-19 14:22
Re: DUNE!: Remen : Meridian 94 DUNE 19-Nov-19 15:37
Re: DUNE!: Remen : Meridian 90 Jim Alison 20-Nov-19 00:44
Re: DUNE!: Remen : Meridian 105 Poster Boy 19-Nov-19 16:43
Re: DUNE!: Remen : Meridian 94 Jim Alison 20-Nov-19 01:07
Re: DUNE!: Remen : Meridian 112 Poster Boy 20-Nov-19 01:38
Re: DUNE!: Remen : Meridian 95 Jim Alison 20-Nov-19 14:28
Where is this leading? 102 Poster Boy 21-Nov-19 17:19
Re: Where is this leading? 105 Lee McGiffen 22-Nov-19 06:49
Re: Remen : Meridian 116 Poster Boy 16-Nov-19 18:00
Re: Remen : Meridian 114 Jim Alison 16-Nov-19 22:09
Excellent! 118 thinkitover 16-Nov-19 18:29
Re: Excellent! 146 Jim Alison 16-Nov-19 22:24
Re: Excellent! 121 Lee McGiffen 18-Nov-19 07:36
Re: Excellent! 123 Jim Alison 18-Nov-19 15:55
Re: Excellent! 116 magisterchessmutt 19-Nov-19 03:57
Re: Remen : Meridian 109 Spiros 20-Nov-19 15:06
Re: Remen : Meridian 99 Spiros 20-Nov-19 19:28
Re: Remen : Meridian 97 Jim Alison 20-Nov-19 20:24
Re: Remen : Meridian 91 Spiros 20-Nov-19 22:25
Re: Remen : Meridian 114 Spiros 20-Nov-19 22:58
Re: Remen : Meridian 100 Spiros 20-Nov-19 23:49
Re: Remen : Meridian 105 Jim Alison 20-Nov-19 23:40
The Earth number 156 hendrik dirker 21-Nov-19 05:48
Re: The Earth number 132 Jim Alison 21-Nov-19 13:15
Re: The Earth number 115 molder 22-Nov-19 19:30
Re: The Earth number 96 Jim Alison 23-Nov-19 01:44
Geometry as Metrology? 119 thinkitover 23-Nov-19 22:56
Re: Geometry as Metrology? 105 magisterchessmutt 24-Nov-19 00:04
Re: Geometry as Metrology? 112 Jim Alison 24-Nov-19 01:16
Re: Geometry as Metrology? 125 magisterchessmutt 24-Nov-19 01:36
Re: Geometry as Metrology? 143 magisterchessmutt 24-Nov-19 01:49
Re: Remen : Meridian 158 magisterchessmutt 24-Nov-19 02:38
Re: Remen : Meridian 107 DavidK 11-Dec-19 23:26
Re: Remen : Meridian 94 DavidK 12-Dec-19 13:23
Re: Remen : Meridian 83 thinkitover 12-Dec-19 18:51
Re: Remen : Meridian 101 DavidK 12-Dec-19 21:27
Re: Remen : Meridian 74 Jiri Mruzek 13-Dec-19 00:55
Re: Remen : Meridian 67 DavidK 13-Dec-19 09:51
Re: Remen : Meridian 75 Jim Alison 13-Dec-19 03:48
Re: Remen : Meridian 70 magisterchessmutt 13-Dec-19 04:58
Re: Remen : Meridian 71 magisterchessmutt 13-Dec-19 05:44
Re: Remen : Meridian 72 DavidK 13-Dec-19 09:58
Re: Remen : Meridian 72 DavidK 13-Dec-19 09:15
Re: Remen : Meridian 67 magisterchessmutt 13-Dec-19 11:02
Re: Remen : Meridian 84 DavidK 13-Dec-19 11:07
Re: Earth circumference 94 drew 17-Dec-19 23:57
Re: Earth circumference 94 DavidK 18-Dec-19 11:29
Re: Earth circumference 99 drew 20-Dec-19 00:22
Re: Earth circumference 86 hendrik dirker 20-Dec-19 06:07
Re: Earth circumference 82 DavidK 20-Dec-19 13:27
Re: Earth circumference 67 hendrik dirker 21-Dec-19 12:48
Re: Earth circumference 76 Jim Alison 20-Dec-19 20:48
Re: Earth circumference 73 hendrik dirker 21-Dec-19 11:44
Re: Earth circumference 67 drew 20-Dec-19 23:48
Re: Remen : Meridian 73 Jim Alison 20-Dec-19 19:26
Re: Remen : Meridian 75 magisterchessmutt 21-Dec-19 01:54
Re: Remen : Meridian 72 Jim Alison 21-Dec-19 04:30
Re: Remen : Meridian 62 magisterchessmutt 21-Dec-19 07:43
Re: Remen : Meridian 66 DavidK 21-Dec-19 10:56
Re: Remen : Meridian 70 magisterchessmutt 21-Dec-19 11:24
Re: Remen : Meridian 65 magisterchessmutt 21-Dec-19 11:48
Re: Remen : Meridian 59 DavidK 21-Dec-19 16:08
Re: Remen : Meridian 80 DavidK 21-Dec-19 12:49
Re: Remen : Meridian 66 Jim Alison 21-Dec-19 15:19
Re: Remen : Meridian 64 molder 21-Dec-19 20:33
Re: Remen : Meridian 59 DavidK 21-Dec-19 23:49
Re: Remen : Meridian 67 Jim Alison 22-Dec-19 03:02
Re: Remen : Meridian 67 DavidK 22-Dec-19 10:30
Re: Roman measures Hang on let us get this right. 67 molder 22-Dec-19 13:03
Re: Roman measures Hang on let us get this right. 63 DavidK 22-Dec-19 15:01
Re: Roman measures Hang on let us get this right. 74 magisterchessmutt 22-Dec-19 17:13
Re: Roman measures Hang on let us get this right. 79 DavidK 22-Dec-19 17:32
Re: Roman measures Hang on let us get this right. 71 Jim Alison 24-Dec-19 05:23
Stecchini's Metrics 70 thinkitover 21-Dec-19 16:01
Re: Stecchini's Metrics 77 magisterchessmutt 21-Dec-19 17:17
Re: Stecchini's Metrics 70 thinkitover 24-Dec-19 15:06
Re: Remen : Meridian 69 drew 23-Dec-19 00:44
Re: Remen : Meridian 71 Jim Alison 23-Dec-19 02:55
Re: Remen : Meridian 80 DavidK 23-Dec-19 12:34
Re: Remen : Meridian 85 Jim Alison 24-Dec-19 01:09
Re: Remen : Meridian 62 drew 27-Dec-19 23:06
Re: Remen : Meridian 72 DavidK 27-Dec-19 23:59
Re: Remen : Meridian 68 drew 28-Dec-19 22:24
Re: Remen : Meridian 114 DavidK 29-Dec-19 00:50
Re: Remen : Meridian 66 Jim Alison 11-Jan-20 03:53
Re: Remen : Meridian 60 DavidK 11-Jan-20 13:54
The Egyptian Remen 14.58333r inches 73 DavidK 11-Jan-20 16:48
Re: Remen : Meridian 55 Jim Alison 22-Jan-20 00:10
Re: Remen : Meridian 52 Mercurial 22-Jan-20 20:59
say hello to rodz? 71 DavidK 11-Jan-20 18:01
Re: say hello to rodz? 54 thinkitover 12-Jan-20 06:03
Re: say hello to rodz? 64 DavidK 12-Jan-20 12:45
Re: say hello to rodz? 66 thinkitover 13-Jan-20 06:41


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