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Merrell Wrote:
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> Markings on the blocks closing off the galleries
> at Wadi e-Jarf bear other crew-names which also
> include cartouche names of Khufu.

You mean these ones:


And...? Is this block part of the Diary? The harbor and galleries were used through the 4th Dynasty into the 5th.

> Fragments of an accounts papyrus found at the site
> (location G2, US 2015) bear the date of the 13th
> cattle-count of Khufu (Tallet, MIFAO 136, 2017:
> 3).

WTF? In a post TO YOU
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Ankhhaf (son of Sneferu), mentioned in Merer's Diary, is an interesting fellow who it appears died sometime during the reign of Khafre. A reassessment of the building of his mastaba G7510, the largest at Giza, suggests it was begun at the end of Khufu's reign in which construction continued though the reign of Khafre. The date given for the Merer Diary, the 13th cattle count, or "(26th) 27th year of Khufu's reign", does not actually come from Merer's Diary but rather some administrative document fragments found nearby. According to Tallet:
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“This diary,” write Tallet and Marouard, “found in the same archaeological context as the administrative accounts dating to regnal Year 27, highlights two major facts: it confirms that Ankh-haf was effectively vizier and in charge of some of the final steps of the construction of the Great Pyramid at Giza, and it verifies that the pyramid was clearly at a final stage of the construction project at the very end of the Khufu’s reign.”

So, these other documents mention a "13th cattle count", but I see no verification they mention Khufu by name and the only reason this is assumed to be Khufu's reign is, for one, the "archaeological context" it is found which I'd like to know what this is exactly that would place it specifically in Khufu's reign, but more importantly that it is also assumed the work performed at Akhet-Khufu, the G1 pyramid complex and not the necessarily the pyramid itself, was being performed by Ankhhaf during Khufu's reign. Here's the rub-there is no verification Ankhhaf was vizier under Khufu in which Reisner among others thought he was actually vizier under Khafre. If we consider the year of Djedfre's reign in the Khufu boat pit being the 11th cattle count, it is no great stretch considering Ankhhaf was alive perhaps even working as a vizier under Khafre that this may be reffering to the 13th cattle count of Djedfre's reign, not Khufu-a time when the boat pits and peripheral structures were being built after G1 had been completed.

Repeated in this thread yesterday HERE.
And part of many arguments here: G1 and the Boat Pits of Djedefre

Where in these documents, again not part of the Merer Diary, is Khufu's name mentioned at all let alone in conjunction with the cattle count? It doesn't. Tallet makes this inference because of the "context" he believes is the reign of Khufu. But what make no sense is despite knowing better you still repeat it here as if it does.

> Given the presence of the other evidence just
> mentioned, it's fairly safe to infer that the
> cargo transported by Merer and his crew was
> intended for a major construction at the funerary
> complex of Akhet-Khufu.

How does the presence of Khufu's name on a block and an ambiguous 13th cattle count on a document "infer that the cargo transported by Merer and his crew was intended for major construction at the funerary complex of Akhet-Khufu"? Weird.

Regardless, as has been said many times now, there are many other projects at Akhet-Khufu than G1, either as a single job or as a whole, that required large amounts of Tura limestone.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 25-Nov-19 16:52 by Thanos5150.

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Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 294 Barbelo 30-Oct-19 11:33
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 250 Martin Stower 30-Oct-19 13:36
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 139 Barbelo 30-Oct-19 20:28
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 211 Thanos5150 30-Oct-19 16:10
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 180 Warwick 30-Oct-19 20:07
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 230 Martin Stower 30-Oct-19 20:57
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 160 Corpuscles 31-Oct-19 01:07
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 191 Martin Stower 31-Oct-19 11:07
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 98 Merrell 22-Nov-19 16:09
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 181 Martin Stower 31-Oct-19 13:34
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 159 Poster Boy 19-Nov-19 00:24
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 136 Thanos5150 19-Nov-19 16:55
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 98 engbren 21-Nov-19 11:01
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 116 Martin Stower 21-Nov-19 14:45
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 90 engbren 22-Nov-19 11:05
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 98 Martin Stower 22-Nov-19 15:06
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 91 Hanslune 22-Nov-19 15:32
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 91 sfbey 22-Nov-19 18:51
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 80 Hanslune 23-Nov-19 01:19
2 responces . . 101 Warwick 22-Nov-19 19:32
Re: 2 responces . . 117 cladking 22-Nov-19 21:14
Re: 2 responces . . 116 Martin Stower 22-Nov-19 21:29
Re: 2 responces . . 179 cladking 23-Nov-19 02:14
Deleted the same attempts to get people to respond to him 94 Hanslune 23-Nov-19 04:04
Ah, how rare Cladking hijacking a thread 86 Hanslune 23-Nov-19 01:18
Re: 2 responces . . 82 Mayavitch 26-Nov-19 22:33
Re: 2 responces . . 63 Warwick 27-Nov-19 17:36
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 99 Poster Boy 23-Nov-19 17:50
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 93 Merrell 24-Nov-19 10:12
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 98 Lee McGiffen 24-Nov-19 13:18
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 102 Thanos5150 24-Nov-19 14:28
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 82 Warwick 24-Nov-19 19:54
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 97 Thanos5150 25-Nov-19 02:26
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 75 engbren 25-Nov-19 06:36
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 87 Thanos5150 25-Nov-19 16:11
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 103 cladking 25-Nov-19 17:53
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 168 cladking 26-Nov-19 20:02
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 83 Merrell 25-Nov-19 09:54
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 105 Thanos5150 25-Nov-19 16:50
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 81 Merrell 25-Nov-19 22:45
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 87 Merrell 26-Nov-19 17:51
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 103 Thanos5150 27-Nov-19 06:19
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 81 Corpuscles 28-Nov-19 05:47
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 68 Thanos5150 28-Nov-19 17:01
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 78 Merrell 28-Nov-19 10:25
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 74 Merrell 28-Nov-19 14:01
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 74 Thanos5150 28-Nov-19 17:11
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 74 Merrell 28-Nov-19 17:48
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 76 Thanos5150 28-Nov-19 18:53
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 68 Thanos5150 28-Nov-19 20:20
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 67 Corpuscles 28-Nov-19 21:31
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 83 Thanos5150 29-Nov-19 00:19
Petrie’s Confusion Problem 110 Dr. Troglodyte 01-Dec-19 19:54
Re: Petrie’s Confusion Problem 124 Corpuscles 01-Dec-19 23:51
Re: Petrie’s Confusion Problem 65 Merrell 02-Dec-19 10:03
Re: Petrie’s Confusion Problem 97 Martin Stower 02-Dec-19 14:38
Re: Petrie’s Confusion Problem 72 Thanos5150 03-Dec-19 16:54
as far as that goes..... 59 Warwick 03-Dec-19 18:20
Re: Petrie’s Confusion Problem 98 Martin Stower 03-Dec-19 19:32
Tunnel vision 476 Warwick 04-Dec-19 20:18
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 79 Martin Stower 28-Nov-19 21:05
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 68 Thanos5150 28-Nov-19 21:51
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 93 Martin Stower 28-Nov-19 22:28
“. . . lost until Zahi Hawass found it . . .” 119 Martin Stower 29-Nov-19 14:50
Re: “. . . lost until Zahi Hawass found it . . .” 71 Thanos5150 29-Nov-19 19:03
Re: “. . . lost until Zahi Hawass found it . . .” 66 Merrell 29-Nov-19 20:44
Re: “. . . lost until Zahi Hawass found it . . .” 72 Martin Stower 30-Nov-19 01:02
Re: “. . . lost until Zahi Hawass found it . . .” 72 Thanos5150 30-Nov-19 05:31
Re: “. . . lost until Zahi Hawass found it . . .” 75 Thanos5150 30-Nov-19 06:11
Re: “. . . lost until Zahi Hawass found it . . .” 74 Martin Stower 30-Nov-19 12:49
From the site of Andrew Bayuk (“Guardian”) 86 Martin Stower 30-Nov-19 14:38
Re: From the site of Andrew Bayuk (“Guardian”) 68 Thanos5150 30-Nov-19 16:34
Re: From the site of Andrew Bayuk (“Guardian”) 69 Martin Stower 30-Nov-19 16:57
Re: From the site of Andrew Bayuk (“Guardian”) 70 Martin Stower 30-Nov-19 17:43
Re: From the site of Andrew Bayuk (“Guardian”) 66 Corpuscles 30-Nov-19 18:31
Re: From the site of Andrew Bayuk (“Guardian”) 71 Martin Stower 30-Nov-19 18:46
Re: From the site of Andrew Bayuk (“Guardian”) 69 Corpuscles 30-Nov-19 18:55
Re: From the site of Andrew Bayuk (“Guardian”) 72 Martin Stower 30-Nov-19 19:18
Re: From the site of Andrew Bayuk (“Guardian”) 57 Corpuscles 30-Nov-19 23:04
Re: From the site of Andrew Bayuk (“Guardian”) 73 Merrell 30-Nov-19 21:22
Re: From the site of Andrew Bayuk (“Guardian”) 63 Corpuscles 30-Nov-19 23:12
Re: From the site of Andrew Bayuk (“Guardian”) 65 Thanos5150 01-Dec-19 00:25
Re: From the site of Andrew Bayuk (“Guardian”) 65 Martin Stower 01-Dec-19 00:54
Re: From the site of Andrew Bayuk (“Guardian”) 99 Corpuscles 01-Dec-19 01:37
Re: From the site of Andrew Bayuk (“Guardian”) 71 Martin Stower 01-Dec-19 14:18
Re: From the site of Andrew Bayuk (“Guardian”) 65 Martin Stower 01-Dec-19 14:55
Hawass: other possible slips 77 Merrell 01-Dec-19 15:28
Re: From the site of Andrew Bayuk (“Guardian”) 69 Martin Stower 01-Dec-19 19:16
Re: From the site of Andrew Bayuk (“Guardian”) 53 Corpuscles 01-Dec-19 23:32
Re: “. . . lost until Zahi Hawass found it . . .” 70 Thanos5150 30-Nov-19 16:38
Re: “. . . lost until Zahi Hawass found it . . .” 54 Merrell 30-Nov-19 18:14
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 105 Merrell 25-Nov-19 23:57
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 87 Thanos5150 26-Nov-19 16:38
Infrastructure . 82 Warwick 26-Nov-19 17:29
What Irony? n/t 71 cladking 26-Nov-19 20:05
do TRY being objective 71 Warwick 26-Nov-19 20:14
Re: do TRY being objective 88 cladking 26-Nov-19 20:25
so you choose subjective 77 Warwick 26-Nov-19 20:49
Re: so you choose subjective 88 cladking 26-Nov-19 23:17
Re: so you choose subjective 85 Warwick 27-Nov-19 02:51
So You Evade the Subject Again. 139 cladking 27-Nov-19 03:43
Re: So You Evade the Subject Again. 58 Warwick 27-Nov-19 17:29
Egyptologists Couldn't Find a Ramp with Both Hands. 67 cladking 27-Nov-19 18:11
Re: Egyptologists Couldn't Find a Ramp with Both Hands. 74 Warwick 27-Nov-19 18:21
Cladking hijacks another thread and makes it about ramps - again 54 Hanslune 27-Nov-19 23:39
Cladking logic: If you disagree with me you are an Egyptologist! 78 Hanslune 27-Nov-19 12:58
Re: Cladking logic: If you disagree with me you are an Egyptologist! 61 Warwick 27-Nov-19 17:41
A better idea 58 Hanslune 27-Nov-19 18:12
New from K-tel 67 Warwick 27-Nov-19 18:16
Re: New from K-tel 69 Hanslune 28-Nov-19 00:08
Re: New from K-tel 69 Lee McGiffen 28-Nov-19 01:46
Re: New from K-tel 195 cladking 28-Nov-19 01:57
Re: New from K-tel 66 Hanslune 28-Nov-19 16:40
Putting this to bed 68 Warwick 28-Nov-19 18:11
Re: so you choose subjective 68 Thanos5150 28-Nov-19 19:11
Re: so you choose subjective 57 Warwick 28-Nov-19 20:44
Classic unintended comedy! 102 Hanslune 27-Nov-19 13:04
Re: Infrastructure . 77 Thanos5150 27-Nov-19 00:15
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 79 Merrell 26-Nov-19 18:56
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 70 Merrell 28-Nov-19 22:48
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 81 Thanos5150 29-Nov-19 03:37
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 55 Merrell 29-Nov-19 20:26
Ahket . 100 Warwick 25-Nov-19 17:56
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 115 Hanslune 24-Nov-19 16:27
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 79 Thanos5150 25-Nov-19 00:31
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 79 Hanslune 25-Nov-19 00:53
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 90 Thanos5150 25-Nov-19 02:08
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 81 Hanslune 25-Nov-19 05:49
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 82 Merrell 25-Nov-19 10:12
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 69 seasmith 25-Nov-19 22:09
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 62 Warwick 25-Nov-19 22:31
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 68 Merrell 25-Nov-19 22:35
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 63 seasmith 25-Nov-19 23:11
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 59 Warwick 26-Nov-19 20:23
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 84 Martin Stower 26-Nov-19 14:35
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 64 seasmith 27-Nov-19 02:48
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 76 Poster Boy 24-Nov-19 16:59
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 95 Thanos5150 24-Nov-19 14:07
Re: Mainstream endorsement of Creighton’s HOAX . . . 86 Poster Boy 24-Nov-19 17:21
not Graffiti 90 Warwick 24-Nov-19 19:47
Re: not Graffiti 99 Hanslune 24-Nov-19 21:51
Monkey see.. 103 Warwick 24-Nov-19 23:40
Re: not Graffiti 115 Poster Boy 24-Nov-19 21:58
Please, for God’s sake, . . . 753 Martin Stower 27-Nov-19 19:52
Mods can you stop Cladking from hijacking this thread? 105 Hanslune 27-Nov-19 23:41
Mod Warning > General OP Hijacking 127 Dr. Troglodyte 28-Nov-19 17:21


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